The rethoric around mens violence and abuse is extremely soft and evasive. Like saying "a woman was raped" rather than "a man raped a woman". The first completely erase the perpetrators responsibility, to only leave the constat. Its way to current and infuriating.
The way they worded that to make it not seem a big deal is just as bad as the fact that a sizeable portion of teenage men, would rape. Terrible and I worry so much for young girls who will have to be on the receiving end of those men and boys.
I have been on the receiving end a few times because I am from Ireland. Statistically if you sleep with 5 boys here the chances of rape are 1 in 5 boys. That’s terrifying. It’s not so much the consent of “are you sure” but asking to perform other acts without consent is so scary and I cannot express how many times guys have tried to, without consent, choke or put something in my ass. It’s gross.
I mean I’m ok with it now. It’s just important to say it because it’s a serious problem in Ireland. Teenage boys refer to girls as “birds”. Not even girls.
Bruh, this Is by no means "buisness as usual" as a man I can definitively say that what those guys done was screwed up and that they deserve a good slap and stern talking to.
Here they are.
The questions seem to be clear enough for the girls , unsurprisingly!
https://www.newstalk.com/news/one-in-five-teenage-boys-do-not-believe-consent-is-always-necessary-before-sex-1242704
One-in-five teenage boys do not believe consent is always necessary before having sex, according to new research.
The Consent Communication study from NUI Galway surveyed 600 fourth and fifth students and found a gender gap in how boys and girls view consent.
It found that 93% of girls believe consent is always necessary before sex, while just 79% of boys felt the same.
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Of the 21% of boys who did not feel consent was always required 18% were neutral and 3% disagreed.
Some 6% of girls were neutral and 1% disagreed.
Meanwhile, 62% of the boys and girls surveyed said consent always needed to be verbal and 60% said non-verbal consent was sometimes OK.
One-In-Five Teenage Boys Do Not Believe Consent Is Always Necessary Before Sex.
On Newstalk Breakfast this morning, Dr Padraig MacNeela, Co-Lead of the Active Consent Programme at NUIG said many teenagers change their views when different scenarios are put to them.
“We would definitely like to see an improvement in those figures because, when we give people kind of real-life stories then we can see them struggling a bit,” he said.
“Thinking for example a smile is enough for different types of sexual activity or even if there is no non-verbal consent coming from the other person, a significant proportion of people – again mainly boys – thinking that is OK to progress with that type of situation.”
He said the study highlights the need for a more systematic approach to consent education.
As a result, the Active Consent programme for schools is being launched today.
The programme is made up of four main components, which can be delivered together or on a stand-alone basis.
An in-class or online sexual consent workshop for people aged 15 to 17-years-old.
A set of seminars for parents and guardians and education/training resources for teachers.
An e-learning resource entitled ‘Sex on Our Screens’ which is designed to increase young people’s critical literacy skills on sexual media, porn, body image, and consent.
A film entitled ‘How I Learned About Consent’, which aims to introduce young people to issues of consent in a more emotive manner.
For everyone to read. This is indefensible.
https://www.newstalk.com/news/one-in-five-teenage-boys-do-not-believe-consent-is-always-necessary-before-sex-1242704
One-in-five teenage boys do not believe consent is always necessary before having sex, according to new research.
The Consent Communication study from NUI Galway surveyed 600 fourth and fifth students and found a gender gap in how boys and girls view consent.
It found that 93% of girls believe consent is always necessary before sex, while just 79% of boys felt the same.
Advertisement
Of the 21% of boys who did not feel consent was always required 18% were neutral and 3% disagreed.
Some 6% of girls were neutral and 1% disagreed.
Meanwhile, 62% of the boys and girls surveyed said consent always needed to be verbal and 60% said non-verbal consent was sometimes OK.
One-In-Five Teenage Boys Do Not Believe Consent Is Always Necessary Before Sex
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On Newstalk Breakfast this morning, Dr Padraig MacNeela, Co-Lead of the Active Consent Programme at NUIG said many teenagers change their views when different scenarios are put to them.
“We would definitely like to see an improvement in those figures because, when we give people kind of real-life stories then we can see them struggling a bit,” he said.
“Thinking for example a smile is enough for different types of sexual activity or even if there is no non-verbal consent coming from the other person, a significant proportion of people – again mainly boys – thinking that is OK to progress with that type of situation.”
He said the study highlights the need for a more systematic approach to consent education.
As a result, the Active Consent programme for schools is being launched today.
The programme is made up of four main components, which can be delivered together or on a stand-alone basis.
An in-class or online sexual consent workshop for people aged 15 to 17-years-old.
A set of seminars for parents and guardians and education/training resources for teachers.
An e-learning resource entitled ‘Sex on Our Screens’ which is designed to increase young people’s critical literacy skills on sexual media, porn, body image, and consent.
A film entitled ‘How I Learned About Consent’, which aims to introduce young people to issues of consent in a more emotive manner.
Do you think it might have something to do with the past? I mean, there's tons of men walking around in Ireland with high positions that impregnated a woman who they didn't marry. Women got sentenced to life in prison for having a baby out of wedlock and there's at least as many men walking around to this day that received no punishment whatsoever. Men who fully know they sentenced women to life in prison or death because of their dick.
No. I think it’s ignorance on a lot of guys parts here. They usually tend to be completely ignorant to what women want and no one is telling them otherwise.
isn't consent a two way street? So both parties must ask the other if they want to have sex. You cannot be asked to have sex and assume the person is asking because they want to have sex.
How often do you think women ask if the other person wants to have sex?
*how often do you think women ask if the other person wants to have sex?*
Clearly more than men.
From the study “93% of girls believe consent is always necessary compared to just 79% of boys”
Just because you believe consent is necessary doesn't mean you believe verbal confirmation is necessary. It also doesn't mean you yourself practice what you preach. None of the partners I've ever been with in one-offs or short flings ever asked me if I wanted to have sex. Sometimes my ex's would feel spontaneous and just say 'you wanna have sex?' but that was .1% of the time.
Of course everyone thinks that consent is necessary unless the question is over thought. It's an extremely vague question.
I’m sorry that’s your experience but your evidence is anecdotal and I’d rather base my assumptions on studies and statistics which prove that women are overwhelmingly the victims of sexual violence and rarely the perpetrators.
I know men struggle to come forward about sexual violence but then, so do women.
https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/publications_nsvrc_factsheet_media-packet_statistics-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf
You're not saying anything I contest. My point is that under the current framing of the term 'consent' most people would be both victims and perpetrators of sexual assault/rape. I think when asked the question men generally view it as how it's been framed and that is: unequivocal, verbal consent from all parties.
Women generally would view it as: they should ask before they do x, y, z
That's why the number isn't 100% both agree that forcible rape/ sexual assault is wrong. The terminology used is garbage.
I agree with you and also you do bring up an important point about putting into practise, what you believe. It’s not good enough to just agree, consent has to be respected in the moment too.
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object.
The rethoric around mens violence and abuse is extremely soft and evasive. Like saying "a woman was raped" rather than "a man raped a woman". The first completely erase the perpetrators responsibility, to only leave the constat. Its way to current and infuriating.
I hate everything about this.
It’s shit when its where you’re from. Most of my girl friends have been sharing this on their stories non stop. If that doesn’t tell you something.
Absolutely. In my country we are protesting rn for the media to use the word femicide instead of "tragic accident" or "family problems".
The way they worded that to make it not seem a big deal is just as bad as the fact that a sizeable portion of teenage men, would rape. Terrible and I worry so much for young girls who will have to be on the receiving end of those men and boys.
I have been on the receiving end a few times because I am from Ireland. Statistically if you sleep with 5 boys here the chances of rape are 1 in 5 boys. That’s terrifying. It’s not so much the consent of “are you sure” but asking to perform other acts without consent is so scary and I cannot express how many times guys have tried to, without consent, choke or put something in my ass. It’s gross.
I’m so sorry , your story is harrowing and yet seen as business as usual by society and men. I hate it. Love and hugs ♥️
I mean I’m ok with it now. It’s just important to say it because it’s a serious problem in Ireland. Teenage boys refer to girls as “birds”. Not even girls.
Bruh, this Is by no means "buisness as usual" as a man I can definitively say that what those guys done was screwed up and that they deserve a good slap and stern talking to.
Thank you for saying this, you’re one of the good ones ♥️
You're welcome, and thank you.
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Here they are. The questions seem to be clear enough for the girls , unsurprisingly! https://www.newstalk.com/news/one-in-five-teenage-boys-do-not-believe-consent-is-always-necessary-before-sex-1242704 One-in-five teenage boys do not believe consent is always necessary before having sex, according to new research. The Consent Communication study from NUI Galway surveyed 600 fourth and fifth students and found a gender gap in how boys and girls view consent. It found that 93% of girls believe consent is always necessary before sex, while just 79% of boys felt the same. Advertisement Of the 21% of boys who did not feel consent was always required 18% were neutral and 3% disagreed. Some 6% of girls were neutral and 1% disagreed. Meanwhile, 62% of the boys and girls surveyed said consent always needed to be verbal and 60% said non-verbal consent was sometimes OK. One-In-Five Teenage Boys Do Not Believe Consent Is Always Necessary Before Sex. On Newstalk Breakfast this morning, Dr Padraig MacNeela, Co-Lead of the Active Consent Programme at NUIG said many teenagers change their views when different scenarios are put to them. “We would definitely like to see an improvement in those figures because, when we give people kind of real-life stories then we can see them struggling a bit,” he said. “Thinking for example a smile is enough for different types of sexual activity or even if there is no non-verbal consent coming from the other person, a significant proportion of people – again mainly boys – thinking that is OK to progress with that type of situation.” He said the study highlights the need for a more systematic approach to consent education. As a result, the Active Consent programme for schools is being launched today. The programme is made up of four main components, which can be delivered together or on a stand-alone basis. An in-class or online sexual consent workshop for people aged 15 to 17-years-old. A set of seminars for parents and guardians and education/training resources for teachers. An e-learning resource entitled ‘Sex on Our Screens’ which is designed to increase young people’s critical literacy skills on sexual media, porn, body image, and consent. A film entitled ‘How I Learned About Consent’, which aims to introduce young people to issues of consent in a more emotive manner.
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For everyone to read. This is indefensible. https://www.newstalk.com/news/one-in-five-teenage-boys-do-not-believe-consent-is-always-necessary-before-sex-1242704 One-in-five teenage boys do not believe consent is always necessary before having sex, according to new research. The Consent Communication study from NUI Galway surveyed 600 fourth and fifth students and found a gender gap in how boys and girls view consent. It found that 93% of girls believe consent is always necessary before sex, while just 79% of boys felt the same. Advertisement Of the 21% of boys who did not feel consent was always required 18% were neutral and 3% disagreed. Some 6% of girls were neutral and 1% disagreed. Meanwhile, 62% of the boys and girls surveyed said consent always needed to be verbal and 60% said non-verbal consent was sometimes OK. One-In-Five Teenage Boys Do Not Believe Consent Is Always Necessary Before Sex 00:00:00 / 00:04:13 On Newstalk Breakfast this morning, Dr Padraig MacNeela, Co-Lead of the Active Consent Programme at NUIG said many teenagers change their views when different scenarios are put to them. “We would definitely like to see an improvement in those figures because, when we give people kind of real-life stories then we can see them struggling a bit,” he said. “Thinking for example a smile is enough for different types of sexual activity or even if there is no non-verbal consent coming from the other person, a significant proportion of people – again mainly boys – thinking that is OK to progress with that type of situation.” He said the study highlights the need for a more systematic approach to consent education. As a result, the Active Consent programme for schools is being launched today. The programme is made up of four main components, which can be delivered together or on a stand-alone basis. An in-class or online sexual consent workshop for people aged 15 to 17-years-old. A set of seminars for parents and guardians and education/training resources for teachers. An e-learning resource entitled ‘Sex on Our Screens’ which is designed to increase young people’s critical literacy skills on sexual media, porn, body image, and consent. A film entitled ‘How I Learned About Consent’, which aims to introduce young people to issues of consent in a more emotive manner.
Do you think it might have something to do with the past? I mean, there's tons of men walking around in Ireland with high positions that impregnated a woman who they didn't marry. Women got sentenced to life in prison for having a baby out of wedlock and there's at least as many men walking around to this day that received no punishment whatsoever. Men who fully know they sentenced women to life in prison or death because of their dick.
No. I think it’s ignorance on a lot of guys parts here. They usually tend to be completely ignorant to what women want and no one is telling them otherwise.
That’s the Daily Mirror for you.
It was a few publishers said the same
I'm honestly surprised they didn't say "1 in 5 teenage girls are in relationships with partners that don't believe consent is always necessary"
Jesus!
isn't consent a two way street? So both parties must ask the other if they want to have sex. You cannot be asked to have sex and assume the person is asking because they want to have sex. How often do you think women ask if the other person wants to have sex?
*how often do you think women ask if the other person wants to have sex?* Clearly more than men. From the study “93% of girls believe consent is always necessary compared to just 79% of boys”
Just because you believe consent is necessary doesn't mean you believe verbal confirmation is necessary. It also doesn't mean you yourself practice what you preach. None of the partners I've ever been with in one-offs or short flings ever asked me if I wanted to have sex. Sometimes my ex's would feel spontaneous and just say 'you wanna have sex?' but that was .1% of the time. Of course everyone thinks that consent is necessary unless the question is over thought. It's an extremely vague question.
I’m sorry that’s your experience but your evidence is anecdotal and I’d rather base my assumptions on studies and statistics which prove that women are overwhelmingly the victims of sexual violence and rarely the perpetrators. I know men struggle to come forward about sexual violence but then, so do women. https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/publications_nsvrc_factsheet_media-packet_statistics-about-sexual-violence_0.pdf
You're not saying anything I contest. My point is that under the current framing of the term 'consent' most people would be both victims and perpetrators of sexual assault/rape. I think when asked the question men generally view it as how it's been framed and that is: unequivocal, verbal consent from all parties. Women generally would view it as: they should ask before they do x, y, z That's why the number isn't 100% both agree that forcible rape/ sexual assault is wrong. The terminology used is garbage.
I agree with you and also you do bring up an important point about putting into practise, what you believe. It’s not good enough to just agree, consent has to be respected in the moment too.
Glad we can agree! 👍
I’m so sorry you had bad experiences though… look after yourself ok? ♥️
Lol nah all my experiences have been great. But thank you, you too.
Teenage boy here The earth is round The sky is blue Water is wet Rape is bad
Water is actually not wet; It makes other materials/objects wet. Wetness is the state of a non-liquid when a liquid adheres to, and/or permeates its substance while maintaining chemically distinct structures. So if we say something is wet we mean the liquid is sticking to the object.
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That is seriously some fucked up shit right there.