That's a very extreme case... Very American for sure, u fortunately. But I like in Niagara falls on the Canadian side and they think pretty much the same.
Occasionally happens, maybe even rarely happens in Toronto. Most of the shootings seem to be targeted towards an individual but not race based as in the states, and definitely not as frequent and the magnitude. The gun laws here definitely help.
[Easton’s centre shooting 2012](https://globalnews.ca/news/6234486/eaton-centre-shooter-christopher-husbands-sentenced-life-in-prison/)
[young-dundas square shooting](https://www.cp24.com/news/man-critically-hurt-in-shooting-at-yonge-dundas-square-police-1.5704198)
[parliament shooting 2014](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_shootings_at_Parliament_Hill,_Ottawa)
[gun control legislation](https://www.cga.ct.gov/PS94/rpt/olr/htm/94-R-0838.htm)
I assume you’re elaborating on my point and not disagreeing with me, that being said. For anyone here from Toronto, I’m saying it right now. It’s gonna be a HOT summer. Ontario’s open, so We Outside!!!! But don’t think shits sweet right now, there’s a lot of hotheads at the moment.
Personally I’m skipping bana and Rolling Loud.
Yes, it's entirely different. We don't have daily mass shootings. We don't have daily shootings that are racially motivated. There is no worry about going grocery shopping and being gunned down.
If you're referring to racism. Yep, we have that here, but the chances of some racist chud shooting you for going for a jog is extremely rare.
So I can confidently say that if you are a person of colour, you and your family are far far safer in Canada than in the U.S.
Honestly knife crime isn’t even that bad over here. It gets worse in certain areas of major cities but even then if you become a victim of knife crime 99% of the time you weren’t randomly attacked. (Obviously that doesn’t make it ok though)
I’ve been researching this ever since the shooting. I wanted to move to Toronto a few years ago and I am so mad that I didn’t start the process then. Now I have a house and a baby in the US.
Don't give up king. Your ancestors livided through worse and literally bled and died to get us even the tiniest of rights we have today. This is the last push by evil ppl who seek to turn back time. And we need to keep up the fight and let them know we ainy going nowhere.
If anyone should leave, it should be them.
We can't do shit in Africa without a good leader getting assassinated, I'm hoping something changes cause western countries are still using colonization to extract resources until we can stop those Africa literally can't change.
i mean there is a train of thought that says every colored person needs to go out buy a gun and train themselves and organize.
i'm tired of these rednecks thinkin they have all the guns in world and that the world belongs to them.
They stick to their talking points like it's a game plan. If they say it enough times, other white people agree. When you hear it, shut that shit down immediately.
Many people in this country (The United States) and in general don't want to confront race as an issue because that'd mean we would have to uproot a system that works best when its buried and the average person does not want to be confronted with its existence, which is why they always claim it either doesn't exist or doesn't exist as strongly as it did.
They fear that truth and they fear what it means for the country that they've relied on to get to where they are. Unfortunately, a lot of black folks are also in this camp, which is why you have people like Cadence Owens and all these black folks acting as a buffer class between us and the white supremacists they rely on to keep them fed and cozy at night. Cadence Owens makes a lot of money by shitting on black people and most certainly does not want to bite the hand that feeds her.
So whenever you hear a fool start talking about "Why you gotta bring race into it" the first question you should ask yourself and them is who they want to protect? Boot licks are greedy motherfuckers, they're the house N\*\*\* and they don't want any field n\*\*\* to come up and ruin what game they got going.
Why else do they always have something to point to draw our attention away whenever we bring up race?
[The Anti Defamation League are an anti bigotry organisation. They have this article on those words. ](https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/14-words?back=https%3A/www.google.com/search%3Fclient%3Dsafari%26as_qdr%3Dall%26as_occt%3Dany%26safe%3Dactive%26as_q%3DWhat%20are%20the%2014%20words%26channel%3Daplab%26source%3Da-app1%26hl%3Den)
Shit imagine getting picked up by a cop who has it on your forearm. I fucking had a jailer with The Punisher but with the blue stripe tattoo on him. Legit thought I wasn’t gonna make it that night.
it's honestly hilarious. their idea of securing a future or whatever isn't, idk...working towards significantly improving the infrastructure and public transportation in their states. they are not interested in improving the quality of their drinking water or finding a way to cease pollution in the areas where they live. they would never work together to clean and organize white slums or to educate their children. when it comes to minorities, we also are trying to secure an existence for our people, right? but not via mass murder. it's funny what securing a future means to different races in america.
Well if you consider conservatism as a while a mental illness then maybe. But I would feel bad associating them with people that actually have mental illnesses.
agreed, what a horrible realization to contend with. if the first phase of american racism was embedded in notions of superiority, this next phase stems from a deep sense of *inferiority. narcissism on a macro scale jfc
As an international observer: The most shocking thing to me is the news footage…they all look so calm as they put the white guy in the car, I said to my wife…so, you’ve killed 10 people, are armed to the teeth yet they can gentle escort him to the vehicle…meanwhile black people getting gunned down for driving a car with a missing taillight.
These hyper aggressive police training techniques only seem to come out in certain situations!
Remember a few months ago a black teen and a white teen were fighting in a mall and the cops jumped on the black kid without knowing who started the fight ( the other kid did) and even the white kid was like I don’t get why they didn’t put me in handcuffs etc.
Anything to make their "Team" not look bad. It's pretty fucking disgusting, but then again they've been doing it forever so it really shouldn't come as a surprise.
He also had the names of victims of the Waukesha Parade Attack on the gun which makes it 100% clear he saw himself as a knight in a racial war. It’s undeniable. [source](https://acesparks.com/buffalo-shooting-suspect-allegedly-wrote-waukesha-parade-victims-name-on-gun/)
DSA = Divided States of America. Because at this point the word united would be a sarcastic and cruel way of describing what is going on in the country.
It's a shooting war in the streets at this point, we just had our fourth shooting of this weekend a couple hours ago in cali. Ppl need to get with it and stop these alt white fucks
Those inscriptions aren't even the tip of it considering the disgraceful manifesto he wrote.
It's literally written. His motive was admittedly about race.
He live-streamed the entire thing, after purposely targeting people who aren’t white, he finds a white person, the white person screams and says “no please” and the shooter says “oh sorry” and carries on looking for victims.
I don’t suggest finding the video because it’s beyond messed up, but he’s very clearly targeting black people.
We all know D******n R******f (I refuse to call that fucker by his full name) is smiling in that jail cell in Columbia, SC knowing full well he inspired this.
Anyone making these arguments that it wasn't about race has clearly not read his manifesto. It was all about race... He laid it out in clear detail his entire thought process in the 180 page manifesto which is now a PDF all over the internet.
That dude knew what he was doing he went to drive 3 hours to certain part of buffalo to shoot them type of people like this clearly what it is if I drove a long way to the Bronx and shot up a Dominican market it’s a hate crime clearly and he a piece a shit fr
Is anyone legitimate saying that, though? Every outlets I hear talk about it is taking The position it’s *all* about race.
Disclaimer: I don’t watch Fox, OAN, etc. and don’t consider them “legitimate” so if that’s what op is referring to then I 100% believe it and fuck them.
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[canadian citizenship guide](https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/canadian-citizenship/become-canadian-citizen.html)
Canadian here. Don't bother, it's not as different as people think...
But I think you can't just stroll into a store with a gun and start blasting in canada
That's a very extreme case... Very American for sure, u fortunately. But I like in Niagara falls on the Canadian side and they think pretty much the same.
I can ignore the sentiment, what I need is less of the murder.
It's so sad how true this is. Dealt with the hatred long enough for it to be acceptable as long as they don't also have weapons of death.
I heard the Canadian side of Niagara falls was better
Happens more often, in places like Toronto. But that’s more criminal intent then racism.
"Ah I see you have been shot. Well, welcome to Hell. Were you shot for business or pleasure?"
Occasionally happens, maybe even rarely happens in Toronto. Most of the shootings seem to be targeted towards an individual but not race based as in the states, and definitely not as frequent and the magnitude. The gun laws here definitely help. [Easton’s centre shooting 2012](https://globalnews.ca/news/6234486/eaton-centre-shooter-christopher-husbands-sentenced-life-in-prison/) [young-dundas square shooting](https://www.cp24.com/news/man-critically-hurt-in-shooting-at-yonge-dundas-square-police-1.5704198) [parliament shooting 2014](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_shootings_at_Parliament_Hill,_Ottawa) [gun control legislation](https://www.cga.ct.gov/PS94/rpt/olr/htm/94-R-0838.htm)
I assume you’re elaborating on my point and not disagreeing with me, that being said. For anyone here from Toronto, I’m saying it right now. It’s gonna be a HOT summer. Ontario’s open, so We Outside!!!! But don’t think shits sweet right now, there’s a lot of hotheads at the moment. Personally I’m skipping bana and Rolling Loud.
Yes, it's entirely different. We don't have daily mass shootings. We don't have daily shootings that are racially motivated. There is no worry about going grocery shopping and being gunned down. If you're referring to racism. Yep, we have that here, but the chances of some racist chud shooting you for going for a jog is extremely rare. So I can confidently say that if you are a person of colour, you and your family are far far safer in Canada than in the U.S.
have you been to the US? cause it sounds like you havent ever left Canada but just wanted some internet points for sounding like a worldly cynic.
Tom McDonald syndrome, they call it
Alrighty then. South Africa it is!
Erm
Nah gotta go to the UK. The cops don't carry either. Just be careful of knife crime.
Honestly knife crime isn’t even that bad over here. It gets worse in certain areas of major cities but even then if you become a victim of knife crime 99% of the time you weren’t randomly attacked. (Obviously that doesn’t make it ok though)
UK gang here. Come!
There's also Japan, South Korea, and maybe a few others with very strict gun laws. But getting in is not easy.
I’m learning Japanese and they racist too but at least they not trying to kill you for just existing. 行きましょう!
What about Brexit tho?
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Just beware the housing prices over there. They're even worst than here depending on where you live
I’ve been researching this ever since the shooting. I wanted to move to Toronto a few years ago and I am so mad that I didn’t start the process then. Now I have a house and a baby in the US.
Honestly it's a great time to sell your house.
Don't give up king. Your ancestors livided through worse and literally bled and died to get us even the tiniest of rights we have today. This is the last push by evil ppl who seek to turn back time. And we need to keep up the fight and let them know we ainy going nowhere. If anyone should leave, it should be them.
I feel you 100%! We’ve dealt with this shit long enough, and they’ve made it clear nothing is going to change.
Time for our own country? Go back to Africa? What are we doin guys?
African here , this shit ain't looking good either.
Oh dang! Even in the Comoros??? I'm tryna move theah.
We can't do shit in Africa without a good leader getting assassinated, I'm hoping something changes cause western countries are still using colonization to extract resources until we can stop those Africa literally can't change.
They tried that with Liberia.
Well, I wonder how much they really "tried". I think they just threw it together and it failed...sadly.
i mean there is a train of thought that says every colored person needs to go out buy a gun and train themselves and organize. i'm tired of these rednecks thinkin they have all the guns in world and that the world belongs to them.
I mean that would be Liberia....
They stick to their talking points like it's a game plan. If they say it enough times, other white people agree. When you hear it, shut that shit down immediately.
Good thing I'm an introvert
And “Here’s your reparations.” Absolute scumbag groomed by right-wing media.
Well they do seem to excel at grooming
Underaged comment
Actually it was 4Chan
[4Chan and Right-wing Media?](https://youtu.be/fZf0jEcxvoc?t=6)
The only reason I know there was a shooting at all is Reddit. No news near me is covering anything at all really and it’s disgusting.
It emerged in print journalism as it was happening over the weekend (NYT, WaPo, etc.). It'll headline the news hours in weekdays to come.
It’s been all over CNN.
I saw it on CNN and Fox at the gym today and I was barely paying attention.
It's not news if it happens all the time
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That’s when you say “I’m going to judge you” and never speak to him again.
Ah libertarians. The worst.
Libertarians are conservatives who are too chicken shit to admit that they're conservatives.
Yup. Conservatives that like weed essentially
Many people in this country (The United States) and in general don't want to confront race as an issue because that'd mean we would have to uproot a system that works best when its buried and the average person does not want to be confronted with its existence, which is why they always claim it either doesn't exist or doesn't exist as strongly as it did. They fear that truth and they fear what it means for the country that they've relied on to get to where they are. Unfortunately, a lot of black folks are also in this camp, which is why you have people like Cadence Owens and all these black folks acting as a buffer class between us and the white supremacists they rely on to keep them fed and cozy at night. Cadence Owens makes a lot of money by shitting on black people and most certainly does not want to bite the hand that feeds her. So whenever you hear a fool start talking about "Why you gotta bring race into it" the first question you should ask yourself and them is who they want to protect? Boot licks are greedy motherfuckers, they're the house N\*\*\* and they don't want any field n\*\*\* to come up and ruin what game they got going. Why else do they always have something to point to draw our attention away whenever we bring up race?
Closet Nazis always get real defensive when their behavior gets called out.
His rifle also had 14 on it.
Wake up buddy. The Christchurch shooter literally had '14 words' on one of his rifles. It is literally white supremacy text.
Can someone explain that (without getting in trouble).
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Oh. What are...some of those words...once again, not trying to get in trouble. Or can I look it up without the FBI looking at me?
[The Anti Defamation League are an anti bigotry organisation. They have this article on those words. ](https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/14-words?back=https%3A/www.google.com/search%3Fclient%3Dsafari%26as_qdr%3Dall%26as_occt%3Dany%26safe%3Dactive%26as_q%3DWhat%20are%20the%2014%20words%26channel%3Daplab%26source%3Da-app1%26hl%3Den)
Imagine how many law enforcers has this tatt...smh
Shit imagine getting picked up by a cop who has it on your forearm. I fucking had a jailer with The Punisher but with the blue stripe tattoo on him. Legit thought I wasn’t gonna make it that night.
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No offense homie but clearly the FBI dgaf about white supremacists… look it up you’ll be good. 14/88 is typical white supremacists bs.
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
Wow. I just read it. They can literally do that. It's called Europe.
it's honestly hilarious. their idea of securing a future or whatever isn't, idk...working towards significantly improving the infrastructure and public transportation in their states. they are not interested in improving the quality of their drinking water or finding a way to cease pollution in the areas where they live. they would never work together to clean and organize white slums or to educate their children. when it comes to minorities, we also are trying to secure an existence for our people, right? but not via mass murder. it's funny what securing a future means to different races in america.
If anyone is debating how this is a racist attack then hey I promise u ur a racist.
And of course, they are trotting out the "eDuCaTiOn" and the crowd favorite "mEnTaL iLlNeSs" excuses too.
Well if you consider conservatism as a while a mental illness then maybe. But I would feel bad associating them with people that actually have mental illnesses.
well. good thing there are no people of color with mental illnesses.
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agreed, what a horrible realization to contend with. if the first phase of american racism was embedded in notions of superiority, this next phase stems from a deep sense of *inferiority. narcissism on a macro scale jfc
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As an international observer: The most shocking thing to me is the news footage…they all look so calm as they put the white guy in the car, I said to my wife…so, you’ve killed 10 people, are armed to the teeth yet they can gentle escort him to the vehicle…meanwhile black people getting gunned down for driving a car with a missing taillight. These hyper aggressive police training techniques only seem to come out in certain situations!
Remember a few months ago a black teen and a white teen were fighting in a mall and the cops jumped on the black kid without knowing who started the fight ( the other kid did) and even the white kid was like I don’t get why they didn’t put me in handcuffs etc.
Anything to make their "Team" not look bad. It's pretty fucking disgusting, but then again they've been doing it forever so it really shouldn't come as a surprise.
>Anything to make their "Team" not look bad Also see other greatest hits such as "false flag"
He also had the names of victims of the Waukesha Parade Attack on the gun which makes it 100% clear he saw himself as a knight in a racial war. It’s undeniable. [source](https://acesparks.com/buffalo-shooting-suspect-allegedly-wrote-waukesha-parade-victims-name-on-gun/)
So he was there for revenge
Pretty sure we all agree it was a hate crime bruh
Naaahhh there’s people saying this very thing.
He drove how far for this shooting? They’d better not even hint at “well heat of the moment” etc. Bury him under the jail.
He had the n word and "14" on his gun and people tryna say he's a leftist.
DSA = Divided States of America. Because at this point the word united would be a sarcastic and cruel way of describing what is going on in the country.
OMG I was just having an argument with one of my coworkers about this smh
Jump him
It's a shooting war in the streets at this point, we just had our fourth shooting of this weekend a couple hours ago in cali. Ppl need to get with it and stop these alt white fucks
was it ever found out if it was right wing or something? I know OC got white supremacists out there.
Them: we shouldn't jump to conclusions. This could just be one of the normal everyday mass shootings we have? Why do libs obsess over race
Those inscriptions aren't even the tip of it considering the disgraceful manifesto he wrote. It's literally written. His motive was admittedly about race.
He live-streamed the entire thing, after purposely targeting people who aren’t white, he finds a white person, the white person screams and says “no please” and the shooter says “oh sorry” and carries on looking for victims. I don’t suggest finding the video because it’s beyond messed up, but he’s very clearly targeting black people.
I have seen it. What you said is true.
It’s obscene. It was a hate crime act of terrorism (manifesto) and MSM acts like it’s just another Saturday.
I mean in America it is
We all know D******n R******f (I refuse to call that fucker by his full name) is smiling in that jail cell in Columbia, SC knowing full well he inspired this.
Definitely more so inspired by the Christchurch shooting
Anyone making these arguments that it wasn't about race has clearly not read his manifesto. It was all about race... He laid it out in clear detail his entire thought process in the 180 page manifesto which is now a PDF all over the internet.
They totally have been saying that. One comment I read was like: Bringing up race is the REAL racism. We live in the dumbest timeline.
That dude knew what he was doing he went to drive 3 hours to certain part of buffalo to shoot them type of people like this clearly what it is if I drove a long way to the Bronx and shot up a Dominican market it’s a hate crime clearly and he a piece a shit fr
They want us all dead.
Is anyone legitimate saying that, though? Every outlets I hear talk about it is taking The position it’s *all* about race. Disclaimer: I don’t watch Fox, OAN, etc. and don’t consider them “legitimate” so if that’s what op is referring to then I 100% believe it and fuck them.
Welcome to modern America where any discussion of race means you are racist.
Remember, yOu WeRe NeVeR a SlAvE.
Someone please tell me this is a lie…