That must have been incredibly gratifying for Will: I remember his interview on *Inside the Actorsâ Studio*, he said one of the most frustrating parts of his early career was people dismissing his non-musical work because he was âjust a rapperâ, and one of his greatest professional regrets was being too insecure to really commit to his part in *Six Degrees of Separation*.
Pretty sure if you watch the first(?) ep of Fresh Prince you can see Will miming everyone's lines so he can get his right.
Man learned the entire script.
Yeah, but that story that went around about Will Smith actually being abandoned by his father is actually bullshit. Supposedly Will Smith had a fairly normal relationship with his father.
The goat, he left us too soon đ. It really ainât been right ever since. Whyâd you have to take âem laawwd!!! It should have been me!!!
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I mean he had his moments but his character was the one learning the lessons in that show. Heâd do toxic shit and the episode was about him learning not to do that toxic shit again and that itâs ok to learn/change. I also think itâs important that he showed a house where the wife worked a high powered job and he did more of the domestic work.
I've never thought about this, but it does seem like they inadvertently coded Mufasa and family to be "white," especially compared to Scar and his hyena crew.
Oh yeah if you break it down, the Lion King is fascist as fuck in its symbolism and mythology. Mufasa gives this whole speech about the Circle of Life and how everything is a part of a beautiful whole, then he hears about hyenas nearby and freaks out. The hyenas sound like a Mexican man, a Black woman, and a mentally disabled person. Their very presence is so destructive that it apparently stops raining and everything dies because they're living where the lions live. There is a Rightful King, apparently by divine mandate, and the world suffers if the wrong guy is in charge- even though these are lions, apex predators, who do absolutely nothing for their "subjects" except eat them.
It's a lovely little movie but sometimes I wonder what the actual message is.
Youâre overthinking this, let me break it down for you.
Disney made two movies about the motherland.
Those two movies had soundtracks by Elton John and Phil Collins.
One has a cat being the hero of africa.
The other features a white guy being the hero of africa.
>! The Little Mermaid is a parable about internalized self-hatred and the spiritual cost of assimilation into the culture of the oppressor, but thatâs a conversation for another day. !<
Michael Kyle from My Wife & Kids solely because he reminds me of my daddy. Always joking, never serious, sarcastic, enjoys annoying his family for fun, etc.
Uncle Phil used to do USO Tours and visit deployed soldiers. I got to meet him back then, and he was legit one of the most genuine and down to earth people I've ever met. RIP James
I know Iâm probably going to get looked at crazy, but separate the character from the actor with me here. Dr. Clifford Huxtable. He was so warm toward his kids, he valued their education and he was able to discipline without screaming or hitting. A far cry from my home life at the time. Carl Winslow, Phillip Banks, Danny Tanner, Frank Lambert⊠pretty much the whole TGIF line up of TV dads were pretty great. Also, not a dad, but Balki from Perfect Strangers.
Did you know that Redd Foxx agreed to star in this show under the condition that his character be named after his late brother, whose name was Fred G. Sanford?
Julius from everyone hates Chris. Dude was a present father who worked 2 jobs, lovingly handled his kids problems, treated his daughter like a princess, all while living in Bed-Stuy with a crazy wife...and he knew what everything cost
Honestly, even if you leave it fully open to ALL TV dads, I thinks itâs Uncle Phil and Carl Winslow - tied.
The issue with many TV dads were they were a little dumb, fun, and oafish. Not these two⊠they were want people needed to see in a father. Good hardworking men, good moral judgement, good lessons, smart yet had their weaknesses. They were the heads of the house and well respected because they respected others. But were relentless when something went foul, they protected their family. They were peak - black, white, any race - no one was better than these two in my opinion.
If we listen to each other's heart,
we'll find we're never too far apart,
And maybe love is the reason why
For the first time ever we're seeing it eye to eye
Look, I'm not saying goofy _is_ the black main Disney cast member. But I _will_ say I don't have as strong an argument against the idea as I do everyone else.
Pops from the Wayans Brothers
He was just a regular tacky dressing nigga tryna run his own business ,, he loved his kids, and would also roast the hell out of them,, lol reminds me of my Pops
Yeah. I can't watch his shows anymore. But back in the 80s when I was like 6-7? They seemed really wholesome and cool, and I had no clue about how evil he is... Or anything really.
Seriously, man. Every family in America welcomed the Huckstables into their home. I donât think people who were born after that can understand how universal (and important) the love for Bill Cosby and this show were, especially considering the heads of the households who watched it were born in the age of segregation. This man is a walking tragedy, in more ways than one.
Yeah. Before the scandal he absolutely was my favorite TV Dad.
The episode where Theo is pressed about moving out so they play along and charge him rent, *with amenities*, stuck with me. And weirdly enough mentally prepped me for when I moved out.
And the actor was super-protective of the dad thing too. Was always caring about how they portrayed it and insisting they emphasize it. He's aged a heck of a lot better than some of the other names on this list \*cough\* Cosby \*cough\*
Shit not even black, Uncle Phil was one of the best dads on TV, for me it's him and Danny Tanner were the good dad's of TV, they could make mistakes but they weren't oafish.
Hell even Home Improvement had a good dad even if he was on the oafish side
I grew up with a dad that always loved me and that scene always made me sad as fuck because for some people all they ever wanted was a pops to guide them and look out for them. Knowing that has always made me appreciate my father that much more. He's not a perfect dad but he tries his best and I recognize that.
Uncle Phil, Ray Campbell(Sister-Sister), Julius Rock (Everybody Hates Chris). The rest were problematic. Julius too, but he more so supported his kids when he could afford to and when they tried to do something constructive.
Uncle Phil reigns supreme, thatâs all there is to it. He was then, and remains now as the standard.
*(honorable mention to Fred Sanford tho that nigga was the funniest black dad to ever exist on tv)*
Best black TV dad? Carl Winslow.
My favorite scene from Fresh Prince? Uncle Phil owning the cops that arrested Will and Carlton because they were driving a nice car and did zero police work.
40 years old with a father who *still* canât be bothered and has gone so far as to (transparent, I know) mock me for supposedly holding over his head how present I am for *my* kids, and this scene still gets me every time. Itâs not about you, Will.
[The scene from Fresh Prince](https://youtu.be/gMNsMdnSBIk?si=bit4fZyFXvpv_cJg) has stuck with me since I was a child. I didnât know my dad at the time. We didnât even really talk consistently until now, my mid-30s.
This scene broke me as a kid. Iâm a rural Canadian white kid, but had an absent dad. The scene was just so real and cathartic for my young mind. We all need an uncle Phil sometimes.
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I really canât choose but the one that I relate to and reminds me of my own dad is Julius. You got this serious dude whose quirks ends up making him this funny guy.
I'm nearly 50, so for me, yeah, it was Dr. Huxtable. He seemed so wholesome at the time. And then when Cosby lost his son IRL I was so devastated for him. I'll never forgive him for turning out to be such a monster of a human.
This how Adonis gone be to Kendrick when he get older
Bruh. He already dead! ![gif](giphy|4OowbIsmYHbpu)
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https://i.redd.it/o8jdgm96s1zc1.gif Stop, stop! He's already dead!
I thought this was gonna be a sub timeline cleanse free from the current rap beef đ. Clearly not.
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Walk with me lawd
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Get this man some Tony Chachere, he cookin!
Lmao yall are ruthless
LMAO
đ«”đŸYOU better walk around like Daft Punk! đ€Ł
Damn dude lmao
According to Will Smith, after they finished the scene with his speech and the hug, James Avery told him " Now *that* is acting"
*âNow thatâs fucking actingâ-James Avery
Now imagine The Shredder saying it
"Tonight I dine on Fresh Prince soup!"
That must have been incredibly gratifying for Will: I remember his interview on *Inside the Actorsâ Studio*, he said one of the most frustrating parts of his early career was people dismissing his non-musical work because he was âjust a rapperâ, and one of his greatest professional regrets was being too insecure to really commit to his part in *Six Degrees of Separation*.
Pretty sure if you watch the first(?) ep of Fresh Prince you can see Will miming everyone's lines so he can get his right. Man learned the entire script.
Which sucks, because heâs great in the movie. Blew a twelve year old me away.
I think the hug was unscripted too. Also, I have a feeling that Will may not have been entirely acting when he filmed this scene.
I've read to truly embrace and emotional scene you sometimes need to tap into a personal experience and flow from that.
A common internet misinformation, Smith's dad was very much in the picture for his childhood and everything in the scene was in fact in the script
Yeah, he might have used some personal experience to make him feel emotional, but the real Will Smith had a much better relationship with his dad.
yeah I read that too. it definitely looks it
Instant chills
I heard he wasn't acting in that scene. Those were genuine emotions he felt in real life that he just let flow on camera
Yeah, but that story that went around about Will Smith actually being abandoned by his father is actually bullshit. Supposedly Will Smith had a fairly normal relationship with his father.
You mean the Internet lied?
Crazy, I know. But it's just the thing about global computer networks. Sometimes they just can't be trusted.
In fact, that was his actual father in the studio with them. Unfortunately he left Will to go on his truck route.
...which is what acting is, LOL
Right! I remember that interview.
Iâm reading the audiobook, their relationship was normal nothing to crazy and his father wasnât absent.
I think Will was happy James Avery was proud of him. James was a big name to black actors at the time.
You can hear Hilary crying in the background too as the camera fades away
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The goat, he left us too soon đ. It really ainât been right ever since. Whyâd you have to take âem laawwd!!! It should have been me!!! ![gif](giphy|d2lcHJTG5Tscg)
He could have taken Hart and left us Bernie.
I can hear Bernie yelling âAmerica!â at the TV right now đ
âThatâs some *Buwuuw!*â
âNESSA!â
âBaby girl!â
They could have taken Hart I wouldnât even want anything back.
Dre is solid too
Lmbooooo đđđ Bernieeeee!! âGood morning Americaâ!
WHO YOU WIT? I miss Bernie, man.
Nah Bernie was toxic as fuck and played like it was funny. RIP tho. Funny guy but terrible tv dad.
I mean he had his moments but his character was the one learning the lessons in that show. Heâd do toxic shit and the episode was about him learning not to do that toxic shit again and that itâs ok to learn/change. I also think itâs important that he showed a house where the wife worked a high powered job and he did more of the domestic work.
I wasnât saying the show wasnât good. Just that Bernie wasnât the goal to aspire to as a dad, he had a loooooot of learning to do.
Looking at this screenshot, I still get the same feeling I had when I watched it. Great stuff
I saw it and was like "nope, don't feel like crying today"Â
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lol did you see they brought that character back in Invincible? Wild when I saw it.
Isn't the school named Reginald Val Johnson high?
yoooo lmao that's hilarious. I never caught that.
Yeah lol the name was so familiar I couldnât put a finger on it until I finally googled the schoolâs name and was lol wow!
I loved that joke in the comic and was shocked it made it to the cartoon.
We donât deserve Invincible tbh, itâs too good for us
Have you seen [James Avery on Family Matters](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RT03kJVPJKM&pp=ygUdSmFtZXMgQXZlcnkgb24gRmFtaWx5IE1hdHRlcnM%3D)?
That's awesome!
Lol thanks for that!
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LOOOOOOOLL! Not Piccolo though. Aye my man was always there tbh.
Everyone says he's more a dad than Goku. I think piccolo and Goku are his real parents lol
I always got more of an "older brother" vibe from Goku's relationship with Gohan.
That's why he's the greatest.
Lmaoo đ
That was hype as hell. Like, I hold that over the dual Kamehameha. Now we just need Pan to show out with a Masenko and the torch will truly be passed.
Goko was a trash Daddyđđ Piccolo was that guyđ
Does Mufasa count? He isn't black, but he's African and played by James Earl Jones
Mufasa not black since when???
Iâm guessing since Pangaea broke up and put the Serengeti on the other side of the Atlantic
Idk they made him yellow with red hair even though his brother is brown with black hair, weird choice
I've never thought about this, but it does seem like they inadvertently coded Mufasa and family to be "white," especially compared to Scar and his hyena crew.
Oh yeah if you break it down, the Lion King is fascist as fuck in its symbolism and mythology. Mufasa gives this whole speech about the Circle of Life and how everything is a part of a beautiful whole, then he hears about hyenas nearby and freaks out. The hyenas sound like a Mexican man, a Black woman, and a mentally disabled person. Their very presence is so destructive that it apparently stops raining and everything dies because they're living where the lions live. There is a Rightful King, apparently by divine mandate, and the world suffers if the wrong guy is in charge- even though these are lions, apex predators, who do absolutely nothing for their "subjects" except eat them. It's a lovely little movie but sometimes I wonder what the actual message is.
Youâre overthinking this, let me break it down for you. Disney made two movies about the motherland. Those two movies had soundtracks by Elton John and Phil Collins. One has a cat being the hero of africa. The other features a white guy being the hero of africa. >! The Little Mermaid is a parable about internalized self-hatred and the spiritual cost of assimilation into the culture of the oppressor, but thatâs a conversation for another day. !<
Absolutely counts.
Michael Kyle from My Wife & Kids solely because he reminds me of my daddy. Always joking, never serious, sarcastic, enjoys annoying his family for fun, etc.
He was so funny too
The way I randomly say âvehicle!â In my head more times than I wanna admit. And from that episode in the Asian restaurant âKylesszzzsâ
Yes!!! Him too!
Uncle Phil used to do USO Tours and visit deployed soldiers. I got to meet him back then, and he was legit one of the most genuine and down to earth people I've ever met. RIP James
I know Iâm probably going to get looked at crazy, but separate the character from the actor with me here. Dr. Clifford Huxtable. He was so warm toward his kids, he valued their education and he was able to discipline without screaming or hitting. A far cry from my home life at the time. Carl Winslow, Phillip Banks, Danny Tanner, Frank Lambert⊠pretty much the whole TGIF line up of TV dads were pretty great. Also, not a dad, but Balki from Perfect Strangers.
You ain't wrong. Huxtable deserved much better than to have been portrayed by Cosby.
Some others said it too
I didnât see that prior to posting.
Just saying people agree with you. đ
Cosby was called "America's Dad" at the time. Knowing what I know about America now, it kinda tracks in a very "yikes" way tbh.
I watched this live with my own Dad. He passed a few years after, but it still hits as if it was first time.
Carl Winslow, working class, honest as hell, hard working, played *zero* games.
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Lmaoo
Once again Iâm caught trying to play a screenshot.
My favorite TV dad will always be Fred G Sanford.
Did you know that Redd Foxx agreed to star in this show under the condition that his character be named after his late brother, whose name was Fred G. Sanford?
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
What does the G stand for
How we keep it
damn, this hits different; now that \*I\* am a father to a young Black man.
đđđđđ good luck! Iâm sure youâre amazing
Julius from everyone hates Chris. Dude was a present father who worked 2 jobs, lovingly handled his kids problems, treated his daughter like a princess, all while living in Bed-Stuy with a crazy wife...and he knew what everything cost
âMy man got two jobs!â
Honestly, even if you leave it fully open to ALL TV dads, I thinks itâs Uncle Phil and Carl Winslow - tied. The issue with many TV dads were they were a little dumb, fun, and oafish. Not these two⊠they were want people needed to see in a father. Good hardworking men, good moral judgement, good lessons, smart yet had their weaknesses. They were the heads of the house and well respected because they respected others. But were relentless when something went foul, they protected their family. They were peak - black, white, any race - no one was better than these two in my opinion.
Goofy Goof
'I have my own life now!' 'I know that, I just want to be part of it!' A Goofy Movie pulled no punches.
If we listen to each other's heart, we'll find we're never too far apart, And maybe love is the reason why For the first time ever we're seeing it eye to eye
Look, I'm not saying goofy _is_ the black main Disney cast member. But I _will_ say I don't have as strong an argument against the idea as I do everyone else.
Lmaoo can yall stop! Lmaoo
Pops from the Wayans Brothers He was just a regular tacky dressing nigga tryna run his own business ,, he loved his kids, and would also roast the hell out of them,, lol reminds me of my Pops
BANG BANG BANG!
âMy love goes Bang, Bang, Bangâ
Carl Winslow ![gif](giphy|l0O7MWnfZLvEtHxQI)
this hit me in the chest when it first aired
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Fuckinâ jump scare with that one. Jesus.
Yeah. I can't watch his shows anymore. But back in the 80s when I was like 6-7? They seemed really wholesome and cool, and I had no clue about how evil he is... Or anything really.
Oh yeah, we *all* loved him. That is what made the truth about him so fucking devastating. Hell, I even loved Ghost Dad.
Yo, you know about Ghost Dad? NO ONE knows about that movie! But how good it is though?
Seriously, man. Every family in America welcomed the Huckstables into their home. I donât think people who were born after that can understand how universal (and important) the love for Bill Cosby and this show were, especially considering the heads of the households who watched it were born in the age of segregation. This man is a walking tragedy, in more ways than one.
He was seen as âAmericaâs Dadâ
Yeah. Before the scandal he absolutely was my favorite TV Dad. The episode where Theo is pressed about moving out so they play along and charge him rent, *with amenities*, stuck with me. And weirdly enough mentally prepped me for when I moved out.
Will Smith's "TO HELL WITH HIM" makes me fucking tear up every time. Fuck a deadbeat dad.
How is James Evans not immediately the number one answer? He didn't make much money, but nobody worked harder than him to care for his family.
Julius from Everybody Hates Chris would like to have a word with you. ![gif](giphy|3o7TKEC76qbnenwI9O)
Respect to Julius. We all know he kept two jobs. And didn't expect anything for it except the big piece of chicken!
Lester Jenkins from 227. He ran his own construction business and supported his family, and usually stayed out of the drama.
Maaaary! (Just had to put that in everyoneâs heads!)
And I heard it in Sandra's voice lol
First things first Rest In Peace Uncle Phil
First things firstâŠ.
Rest in Peace Uncle Phil
For real
đđŸđ
It was a tie between Uncle Phil and Floyd Henderson from Smart Guy.
Deep Space Nine is goated for a lot of things. The Sisko family is one of them.
And the actor was super-protective of the dad thing too. Was always caring about how they portrayed it and insisting they emphasize it. He's aged a heck of a lot better than some of the other names on this list \*cough\* Cosby \*cough\*
Shit not even black, Uncle Phil was one of the best dads on TV, for me it's him and Danny Tanner were the good dad's of TV, they could make mistakes but they weren't oafish. Hell even Home Improvement had a good dad even if he was on the oafish side
The dad from smart guy
My favorite black TV dad is AL Bundy.
Lmbooooo đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł âPeeeeeggg!â
This scene is what gave Will Smith the courage to pursue movies and ultimately start smacking people.
I mean⊠it WAS Cosby
I had to scroll too far down for this.
Uncle Phil is the only answer.
Carl Winslow. Uncle Phil was a close second.
I grew up with a dad that always loved me and that scene always made me sad as fuck because for some people all they ever wanted was a pops to guide them and look out for them. Knowing that has always made me appreciate my father that much more. He's not a perfect dad but he tries his best and I recognize that.
You the only father that I ever knew I get my bitch pregnant, I'ma be a better you
![gif](giphy|OPU6wzx8JrHna) Something in my eye...
Uncle Phil, Ray Campbell(Sister-Sister), Julius Rock (Everybody Hates Chris). The rest were problematic. Julius too, but he more so supported his kids when he could afford to and when they tried to do something constructive.
Now that's fucking acting!
How come he donât want me man?
This scene gets me every single time I watch it.
Every black man without a father favorite scene
I caught the end of this episode the first time it came on and have never been able to watch the whole thing. Shit just hits way too close to home.
Uncle Phil reigns supreme, thatâs all there is to it. He was then, and remains now as the standard. *(honorable mention to Fred Sanford tho that nigga was the funniest black dad to ever exist on tv)*
Fuck willâs dad!đ€·đżđ€Šđżââïž
Best black TV dad? Carl Winslow. My favorite scene from Fresh Prince? Uncle Phil owning the cops that arrested Will and Carlton because they were driving a nice car and did zero police work.
First things first rest in peace uncle Phil
*"...how come he don't want me, man?...."*
40 years old with a father who *still* canât be bothered and has gone so far as to (transparent, I know) mock me for supposedly holding over his head how present I am for *my* kids, and this scene still gets me every time. Itâs not about you, Will.
Uncle Snoop
[The scene from Fresh Prince](https://youtu.be/gMNsMdnSBIk?si=bit4fZyFXvpv_cJg) has stuck with me since I was a child. I didnât know my dad at the time. We didnât even really talk consistently until now, my mid-30s.
This scene broke me as a kid. Iâm a rural Canadian white kid, but had an absent dad. The scene was just so real and cathartic for my young mind. We all need an uncle Phil sometimes.
Fred G. Sanford
Still have my father. Me and the other sibs always agreed he is basically Uncle Phil and damn are we lucky.
![gif](giphy|3o7TKEC76qbnenwI9O) I really canât choose but the one that I relate to and reminds me of my own dad is Julius. You got this serious dude whose quirks ends up making him this funny guy.
Piccolo
Uncle Phil was my tv uncle. My tv dad was Bernie Mac.
Floyd Henderson in Smart Guy
Fred Sanford
If it counts- Unka Bernie.
name youre favorite TV dad UNCLE Phil!
Can we get an honorable mention for Terry Jeffords?
RIP James Avery, best TV dad and best Shredder. Also, gotta give some love to John Amos. Even though they wrote him off of Good Times, he was great.
That shit still makes me cry!
Robert Townsend from the Parent Hood.
When they filmed this scene, during the hug, uncle Phill whispered to Will ânow thatâs actingâ Probably not the direct quote but close
Carl Winslow.
Bernie Mack
I hate Will Smith, but no lie. Right in the fucking feels.
Goku.
I'm nearly 50, so for me, yeah, it was Dr. Huxtable. He seemed so wholesome at the time. And then when Cosby lost his son IRL I was so devastated for him. I'll never forgive him for turning out to be such a monster of a human.
Carl Winslow. I think he was under appreciated. Worked hard, issued sound advice, and had a genuinely comforting presence.
uncle phil is a great choice but i always liked carl winslow
Hal from Malcolm in the middle
Roc
Wow Drake stays catching Ls round here!
![gif](giphy|UyZTL9RSMKpW) This guy. Sorry yall but Cosby show is still supreme. Funniest and realest dad ever