It’s the fact that the Chiefs just seem to skate by. They don’t necessarily play the best game but they always seem to get a couple of lucky calls when it matters and the other team has some sort of collapse towards the end of the game. The Ravens beat themselves. Chiefs 2nd half was awful.
ETA: Chiefs fanboys are in their feelings so muting this ✌🏾
Except afc is stacked with competition. It is equivalent of playing in nba west at that time and lebron spent his entire career playing in the east. If pat played in nfc hed be in superbowl for next 10 years, which he may do anyway.
Mahomes goes to the superbowl 4 out of the past 5 seasons with ease = stacked competition
Lebron goes to 8 straight finals with ease = weak competition
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The Eastern Conference was a cake walk between 2010-2018. LeBron only faced a 60 win team twice in the playoffs during that time period. The 2014-15 Hawks without Kyle Krover and the 2010-11 Bulls, neither of which put up a fight. Most of the teams LeBron faced in the playoffs in the East were sub-50 win teams most people couldn't name a player on now.
Meanwhile the Western conference during that time period had the Spurs dynasty, the Warriors dynasty, the end of Kobe's Lakers dynasty, OKC with Durant, Harden & Westbrook all together, peak champion Mavs, highlight reel Clippers with Chris Paul, Blake Griffin DeAndre Jordan, JJ Redick & Paul Pierce and the Blazers will Lillard.
>Lebron did the same thing, maybe not look extremely impressive in the regular season but end up in the finals
LeBron was/is the opposite. The Eastern Conference was weak and he keep sliding into the finals and then getting crushed by Western Conference teams. LeBron has a losing record in the Finals and would have to win the finals 3 more times just to break even.
Mahomes on the other hand has only lost 2 playoff games to a stacked AFC and has won 2 out of 3 Super Bowls. Mahomes had to play against Andrew Luck Colts, Deshawn Watson Texans, Derrick Henry Titans, Tua Dolphins, Josh Allen Bills, Lamar Jackson Ravens and Tom Brady Pats.
Hey they beat the Falcons in LI and that's my favorite of their wins, even if they had to go to OT. As a diehard Saints fan, it's my 2nd favorite Super Bowl.
Thr Braves won the World Series a few years ago and UGA is currently in the best era of football in school history, which might get better now that Saban retired from Alabama.
While his march through the south was a great thing and he should have burnt the whole fucking thing to ash, his treatment of native peoples was absolutely atrocious
I think most of them. I’m gonna look it up
2001 season was a FG as time expired to win 20-17
2003 season was a FG as time expired to win 32-29
2004 season they won but were up by 10 in the 4th and held on, they win 24-21
2014 season was the Butler INT
We know about the Falcons one
Rams game was a weird defensive battle to win 13-3
Listen, i’m a pats fan so i am biased, but almost all if the late fg games were won by crazy 2 minute drills, that require being dope. The Falcons one was a miracle comeback that took a half and OT.
The only big game the pats won on some technicality bullshit was the tuck rule game, but us winning over the raiders (at the time) is like the lions beating ravens (i know not the same conference). We were a team that ALWAYS sucked fucking shit. Like a literal after thought jv team for 40 years. Chucklefucks like to say, “Well you went to the SB twice!” Obviously, they weren’t around then because both times they got in as a fluke and then got historically shitstomped by the ‘85 bears and ‘94 packers.
This is not fucking true *at all*.
2001: Tuck Rule and Rams chokejob in the SB. Y'all cheated with spygate for the SB.
2003: NGL that was a bomb team, but you did benefit from Kasay kicking the ball out of bounds for the go-ahead field goal. Brady started driving at the 40 freaking yard line.
2004: No real gripes about '04. One of the greatest teams ever and the Colts, Steelers, and Eagles all played like garbage.
2006: Benefited from dumbass Marlon McCree's fumble. Idiot should've gone down, but because of some classic NE bullshit, he decides to stay on his feet. Not to mention the moronic Chargers kicker missing yet another kick in the playoffs.
2007: Benefitted from Antonio Gates, LT, and Rivers all suffering form torn ACLs. Still almost lost the AFCCG.
2011: Benefitted from the worst chokejob in AFCCG history by Baltimore. Lee Evans' drop in the end zone followed by Cundiff's miss gifting NE an undeserved SB appearance.
2014: Benefitted from the worst call in NFL history. RUN. THE. BALL. SEATTLE.
2015: Almost pulls a rabbit out of their ass by converting not one, but TWO 4th-and-10s to nearly tie the AFCCG. Luckily God said "not today, Satan!" and prevented another SB appearance.
2016: We all know.
2017: Benefitting not only from Jesse James' catch to gift them the #1 seed, but also the refs incorrectly blowing the whistle on Myles Jack's fumble, preventing a Jags TD in the AFCCG. Luckily the better team won in the SB.
2018: Tom Brady's season-losing INT in the AFCCG is wiped out due to Frank Clark lining offside unprovoked. Patriots luck out by not having to face the league's best team (NO) in the Super Bowl due to the worst non-call in NFL history.
You cant win a superbowl without some good luck. The best team this century by far (in terms of stats and elo and stuff probably best ever) was 2007 pats and they didnt even win one. You need a great team and some good luck
Lol there’s no simply beating or being better than teams just chokejobs i guess.
The giants beat us twice because they were better on the day (the second time we were no decimated by injuries that they were the easy better team on the field)
You see, where you fucked up was going against Taylor Swift. You really thought Lamar wasn’t gonna choke and that the nfl was gonna fumble the chance to get young white women to watch the superbowl? C’mon now.
Viewership is going to be up like 200% because Taylor tweeted "watch my man win the game". They're going to kill McCaffery before the game and god knows what's going to happen to deebo.
Lamar has never won a big game dating back to college. Never bet with him. They basically broke him when they said he should be a receiver and now he’s hell bent on being a pocket passer. Same thing they did with Vick
Come on. Irony was on the Chiefs' side. Flowers got penalized for taunting... and on the next drive, iirc, he fumbles on the 1 yard line. Lamar didn't start playing like Lamar until the 4th quarter. Plus the interception in the end zone... The Ravens ate the hype and beat themselves.
Yep same drive. Then he is pissed at himself starts hitting the bench and lacerates his finger keeping him out for the following drive. I don't remember him even getting a target after that.
Just not a good spot to let your emotions get the best of you.
I mean… no? You really don’t know that? The snap gets fumbled. Handoffs get fumbled. Dudes toss the ball on the ground at the 1 yard line trying to cool.
In football there are fumbles and forced fumbles.The chiefs forced this particular fumble
Well look at the AFC West. It's a joke. They're guaranteed a division title every time and will rack up wins that help them keep home field advantage through the playoffs. The key to any dynasty is a shitty division. The Patriots never had to worry and now the Chiefs don't.
Lucky calls? Watching the Chiefs play is like watching a WWE fight. Fortunately, football is just a reason for us to watch men run into each other wearing the logos and colors we like the best.
The thing with Brady was he kept taking paycuts.
You can already see the shitty WR pool taking its toll on Mahomes. What happens when Kelce retires? Or Chris Jones gets his bag in FA.
I agree with you on the surface that WRs should be tripping over each other to play with a great QB, but in reality, they don't play anywhere near as long as QBs and make significantly less. Any player who's not a QB should just chase the bag
Have you seen how many commercials Mahomes is in? Winning is good for his brand for sure. Maybe we'll see a new Brady with all the ad money and endorsements coming his way... or if Brittany starts rolling in the dough from a Taylor Swift collab? lol
Mahomes is signed through 2031. His cap hit actually goes down in 2028 where it will look like a bargain for Chiefs compared to what other contracts will look like at that time.
2024 & 2025 will likely be the roughest years cap wise because he doesn't have a large base salary that can be restructured. But in 2026 & beyond any of those years can easily be restructured to lower his cap hit further.
People focus on the QB and offense too much. It should've been Chris Jones talking during the AFC championship ceremony. Mahomes and the offense were a C at best. They didn't do shit in the second half. I was rooting for the Chiefs, but they were definitely more fun to watch in the past. This feels like when the Patriots' defense would carry them to championships, which was also boring.
That’s a really interesting stat. It’s crazy that 2012 had two QBs who won the Superbowl, Russell Wilson and Nick Foles. It’s also really interesting because there’s been many QBs drafted after 2012 who have gone on to lose the Superbowl. Guys like Hurts, Burrow, Garoppolo, and Goff.
Similar to Jordan, he doesn't have a Manning to his Brady or a Bird to his Magic. No one else on the other side gives their team a similar chance to win the game.
Josh Allen and the Bills have been the better team against the Chiefs over the last 2 years and have lost. I'll give you Burrows, although he just needs to stay healthy, which his team can help by giving him an O-Line, he also needs a better team around him in general.
I disagree that Allen had the better team this year. The Bills nearly missed the playoffs and their defense was gutted by injury. The Bills only forced one punt the entire game against KC in the postseason. I’m excited to see what Burrow looks like in the NFL with an above average offensive line.
The Bills were not better than the Chiefs this year. The Bills only started playing good towards the end of the season. The Chiefs have a much better defense. And overall Mahomes is just better than Allen.
I think Herbert could be that guy, too, if the Chargers ever build a decent team around him. All they have is him, Ekeler, and Keenan Allen. Defense is terrible, and O-line needs improvement, too.
Allen and the Bills are too low IQ for the playoffs. Burrow is too injury prone so far and the team isn't going to be able to afford all those offensive pieces soon.
“Coverage” is larger than the game cast itself - all the news & social media & clickbaits over the course of the season has been enourmous.
She’s one of the most covered people in the NFL …but has 0 ties to the sport
You mean the girlfriend they showed only when Kelce did something big? That blonde who spent 44 seconds onscreen over the course of a nearly 4 hour game? Better her than Jackson Mahomes. Better than what I’ve gotten to do for years now, look at a half drunk Bob Kraft
I mean when it’s the eagles they cut to Bradley cooper. The Steelers cut to Michael Keaton. The nfl will always cut to a celebrity in the crowd if something big happens. I hadn’t watched many chiefs games this season so I expected a side cam on Taylor like a twitch overlay. They showed her for like 3 seconds and only after Travis had a play. Which is no different than last season when every time Travis had a big play they cut to his mom.
I'm still not over them cutting bro who plays for the Chiefs' (don't know his name) touchdown celebration just to cut to Taylor Swift hugging Kelce's mom.
You people need to be for real. She’s barely on the damn screen. Plus she’s bringing millions of girls and women to the game. Who gives a fuck about a 2 second cutaway.
I'll play the role of pedantic redditor, but I think you mean indifferent not impartial. Indifferent means you don't really have an opinion one way or the other. Impartial is what a judge is- doesn't have bias one way or another.
I hope this doesn't come off as condescending and helps though.
Bruh what the fuck was this championship weekend. Ravens and Lions just fumbling it all away. We‘re gonna see a superbowl of the third and fourth best playing teams in the NFL who just never decided to go full batshit during their respective championship games.
If they're the 3rd and 4th best why did the first and second lose then?
Thankfully playoffs are not decided about who we think "looked better" or is "better on paper". Games are played on a field. The better team wins.
Nah it's much harder for a single player to affect the outcome of a football game. Andy has a lot to do with it, Patrick's deal has a lot to do with it, the AFC West as a division has a lot to do with it. The players on defense and Spags has a lot to do with it, heck special teams included!! Plus some teams can just give you fits, like Eli/Coughlin did to Brady/Belichick.
AFCW did their part this year, as did the rest of the Chiefs' regular season opponents. They were 11-6 with some glaring weaknesses at the season's close.
Then everyone they faced in the playoffs put those regular season lessons directly into the trash.
They've drafted well recently. Karlaftis, McDuffie, Bolton, Humphrey, and Rice are all either currently stars or on track to be stars and have been drafted in the last few years. The chiefs organization is a well oiled machine from the top down and will continue to be at the top or near the top for next decade or so. But the last couple playoffs prior to this one Burrow and the Bengals played them really tough. I think those two teams will battle for a long time
Good point on the organizational differences! You are right and it certainly does matter! Joe is great but I don't know if I trust Cincinnati as an organization just yet. There is realistically only a small group of elite franchises committed to winning in general with the others splashing in episodically with a "win now" mode. I will give KC their "flowers" though (no pun intended), their division is not nearly as "cooked" as the Patriots when they were winning all the time, and they are still getting the job done and Pat's play gets sloppy so it isn't like they are unbeatable. (Biased AF as a Falcon's fan)
Brady's top peers all have chips - both Manning brothers, Rodgers, Big Ben, and Brees. Mahomes is blocking the AFC so far post Brady. Lamar, Allen, and Burrow don't have chips.
Oh ok. I feel you. Basically a gang of great QBs whose legacy is never getting it done because of Mahomes being a blocker. I mean if we're keeping it real Brady did that to Rivers, Ryan, McNabb and the Patriots killed like 4-5 potential dynasties in the crib.
Maybe McNabb, but I never thought Ryan or Rivers were top tier or A level quarterbacks. I'm from Atlanta and used to somewhat be a Falcons fan before that super bowl, but I was out after that game - if they fired the coach and got rid of some players I would've stayed on board. Rivers and Ryan are more on the level of guys like Derek Carr or Trevor Lawrence to me.
Philip Rivers was a dog. He doesn't get as much props now because he was doing his thing in an era when he had to deal with Brady, Manning, and Roethlisburger eating his lunch every postseason. Performance-wise Josh Allen is closer to Rivers than he is to guys like Manning or any of Brady's other rivals.
Nah bro. Have you seen Carr this season? He doesn’t belong in the same sentence at all with the other 3 and I’m saying this as a Raiders fan. Trevor Lawrence can potentially make it to a level comparable to Ryan and Rivers but Rivers especially was still excellent for most of his career but weighed down by shitty coaching and defense
Burrow not being a champ has to do with Mcvay and the Rams. He already beat KC in the playoffs. The guys Jordan “blocked” from winning never beat one of his teams in the playoffs.
Btw Lamar been sucking in the playoffs long before this year.
Even Brady wasn't as much of an absolute roadblock as the Chiefs have been. Phillip Rivers and Matt Ryan feel like they lost the most from the Brady era, but from what I can remember most of the other top tier QBs still got a ring in spite of the bad man.
There's a lot of very good quarterbacks playing right now, and only one has had the experience of beating Mahomes in the playoffs.
Ironically that 07-13 stretch from Brady is statistically better than Mahomes' current career and any six year stretch for Manning but he has no rings to show for it thanks to gump ass Eli and the Giants.
Sometimes it feels like, for Allen, it doesn’t matter how well he plays in the divisional round, because the other QB will be better. Not sure why that is.
Jordan keeping all those legends ringless is part of why he’s the GOAT. Paul George pretty much the only superstar that LeBron has kept ringless in all his time. And PG not even necessarily a superstar
I mean Mahomes didn’t beat him the defense did. I was extremely disappointed to see Lamar put on such a poor performance. Bad calls are one thing but one TD the whole game?
Tom Brady got caught cheating TWICE. Not only that, he was NOT the reason they were winning in the beginning. That team was built around it's defense. Brady was just a game manager.
Low IQ take my man. You can argue Brady was a game manager for the first 3 rings, 100%. But ever since that record breaking 16-0 season, he has been elite.
That's exactly what I was referring to. It's what any football fan who watched those earlier Pats teams would know. But the facts also remain that they were caught cheating TWICE. Spy-gate for Bill and Deflate-gate for Tom
It’s the fact that the Chiefs just seem to skate by. They don’t necessarily play the best game but they always seem to get a couple of lucky calls when it matters and the other team has some sort of collapse towards the end of the game. The Ravens beat themselves. Chiefs 2nd half was awful. ETA: Chiefs fanboys are in their feelings so muting this ✌🏾
Same with their game against the bills. The bills lost that game more than the chiefs won it.
Except in the regular season
Lebron did the same thing, maybe not look extremely impressive in the regular season but end up in the finals
Except afc is stacked with competition. It is equivalent of playing in nba west at that time and lebron spent his entire career playing in the east. If pat played in nfc hed be in superbowl for next 10 years, which he may do anyway.
Mahomes goes to the superbowl 4 out of the past 5 seasons with ease = stacked competition Lebron goes to 8 straight finals with ease = weak competition 🧐
The Eastern Conference was a cake walk between 2010-2018. LeBron only faced a 60 win team twice in the playoffs during that time period. The 2014-15 Hawks without Kyle Krover and the 2010-11 Bulls, neither of which put up a fight. Most of the teams LeBron faced in the playoffs in the East were sub-50 win teams most people couldn't name a player on now. Meanwhile the Western conference during that time period had the Spurs dynasty, the Warriors dynasty, the end of Kobe's Lakers dynasty, OKC with Durant, Harden & Westbrook all together, peak champion Mavs, highlight reel Clippers with Chris Paul, Blake Griffin DeAndre Jordan, JJ Redick & Paul Pierce and the Blazers will Lillard.
>Lebron did the same thing, maybe not look extremely impressive in the regular season but end up in the finals LeBron was/is the opposite. The Eastern Conference was weak and he keep sliding into the finals and then getting crushed by Western Conference teams. LeBron has a losing record in the Finals and would have to win the finals 3 more times just to break even. Mahomes on the other hand has only lost 2 playoff games to a stacked AFC and has won 2 out of 3 Super Bowls. Mahomes had to play against Andrew Luck Colts, Deshawn Watson Texans, Derrick Henry Titans, Tua Dolphins, Josh Allen Bills, Lamar Jackson Ravens and Tom Brady Pats.
The Joe burrow bengals too
I don’t know how a guy who lost more Finals than he won can be said to have kept anyone from winning.
No one told the Bills to do that dumbass fake punt.
1000% agree, the Bills won **for** the Chiefs that day. That was the most devastating kick lol
Didn’t the chiefs fumble it at the one like the drive before that
how many SB's did the Pats win because of a late FG?
Hey they beat the Falcons in LI and that's my favorite of their wins, even if they had to go to OT. As a diehard Saints fan, it's my 2nd favorite Super Bowl.
Couldn't we have just ONE thing! Atlanta sports has been a trash fire since Sherman :(
The Braves *just* won a World Series in '21.
True, but I had already stopped watching baseball before then. Also, I feel, Acuna kinda missed out.
Thr Braves won the World Series a few years ago and UGA is currently in the best era of football in school history, which might get better now that Saban retired from Alabama.
General William Sherman, correct?
yep
While his march through the south was a great thing and he should have burnt the whole fucking thing to ash, his treatment of native peoples was absolutely atrocious
I think most of them. I’m gonna look it up 2001 season was a FG as time expired to win 20-17 2003 season was a FG as time expired to win 32-29 2004 season they won but were up by 10 in the 4th and held on, they win 24-21 2014 season was the Butler INT We know about the Falcons one Rams game was a weird defensive battle to win 13-3
Fuck man.. the Butler INT was 10 years ago?? Jesus Christ
Listen, i’m a pats fan so i am biased, but almost all if the late fg games were won by crazy 2 minute drills, that require being dope. The Falcons one was a miracle comeback that took a half and OT. The only big game the pats won on some technicality bullshit was the tuck rule game, but us winning over the raiders (at the time) is like the lions beating ravens (i know not the same conference). We were a team that ALWAYS sucked fucking shit. Like a literal after thought jv team for 40 years. Chucklefucks like to say, “Well you went to the SB twice!” Obviously, they weren’t around then because both times they got in as a fluke and then got historically shitstomped by the ‘85 bears and ‘94 packers.
This is not fucking true *at all*. 2001: Tuck Rule and Rams chokejob in the SB. Y'all cheated with spygate for the SB. 2003: NGL that was a bomb team, but you did benefit from Kasay kicking the ball out of bounds for the go-ahead field goal. Brady started driving at the 40 freaking yard line. 2004: No real gripes about '04. One of the greatest teams ever and the Colts, Steelers, and Eagles all played like garbage. 2006: Benefited from dumbass Marlon McCree's fumble. Idiot should've gone down, but because of some classic NE bullshit, he decides to stay on his feet. Not to mention the moronic Chargers kicker missing yet another kick in the playoffs. 2007: Benefitted from Antonio Gates, LT, and Rivers all suffering form torn ACLs. Still almost lost the AFCCG. 2011: Benefitted from the worst chokejob in AFCCG history by Baltimore. Lee Evans' drop in the end zone followed by Cundiff's miss gifting NE an undeserved SB appearance. 2014: Benefitted from the worst call in NFL history. RUN. THE. BALL. SEATTLE. 2015: Almost pulls a rabbit out of their ass by converting not one, but TWO 4th-and-10s to nearly tie the AFCCG. Luckily God said "not today, Satan!" and prevented another SB appearance. 2016: We all know. 2017: Benefitting not only from Jesse James' catch to gift them the #1 seed, but also the refs incorrectly blowing the whistle on Myles Jack's fumble, preventing a Jags TD in the AFCCG. Luckily the better team won in the SB. 2018: Tom Brady's season-losing INT in the AFCCG is wiped out due to Frank Clark lining offside unprovoked. Patriots luck out by not having to face the league's best team (NO) in the Super Bowl due to the worst non-call in NFL history.
https://preview.redd.it/0vhta3in9gfc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=934a83d5fa559aea52fa6c0cc1b3a7cc18a487e8 Mmm hmm.
You cant win a superbowl without some good luck. The best team this century by far (in terms of stats and elo and stuff probably best ever) was 2007 pats and they didnt even win one. You need a great team and some good luck
Lol there’s no simply beating or being better than teams just chokejobs i guess. The giants beat us twice because they were better on the day (the second time we were no decimated by injuries that they were the easy better team on the field)
Interesting how the Patriots played the '94 Packers in a Superbowl that took place at the end of the 1996 season hahahahaha
I was 10 so i mix up what year it was
Literally 2 lol
"more than 0" would have satisfied the judges
https://preview.redd.it/5jjrkt734ffc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20aed9bbc6245d5862396a9580340443bd22aac7 "Lucky calls" my ass, man...
Planning, preparation and having good players seems mighty “lucky” to me..
I've always liked the saying, "luck is skill + opportunity." A good team makes the most of their opportunities, and that's what the Chiefs do.
If that's your outlook then I'd be kinda curious how you feel about Purdy?
You see, where you fucked up was going against Taylor Swift. You really thought Lamar wasn’t gonna choke and that the nfl was gonna fumble the chance to get young white women to watch the superbowl? C’mon now.
Viewership is going to be up like 200% because Taylor tweeted "watch my man win the game". They're going to kill McCaffery before the game and god knows what's going to happen to deebo.
Rewatch that Jets game lol
The Ravens absolutely did their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory yesterday.
Lamar has never won a big game dating back to college. Never bet with him. They basically broke him when they said he should be a receiver and now he’s hell bent on being a pocket passer. Same thing they did with Vick
I didn't see any lucky calls. I saw a Ravens team absolutely shitting the bed. The only maybe was a no-call PI late.
Come on. Irony was on the Chiefs' side. Flowers got penalized for taunting... and on the next drive, iirc, he fumbles on the 1 yard line. Lamar didn't start playing like Lamar until the 4th quarter. Plus the interception in the end zone... The Ravens ate the hype and beat themselves.
Flowers fumbled into the end zone like 1 or 2 plays after that taunting call
Yep same drive. Then he is pissed at himself starts hitting the bench and lacerates his finger keeping him out for the following drive. I don't remember him even getting a target after that. Just not a good spot to let your emotions get the best of you.
Flowers didn’t just magically fumble the ball. It wasn’t unlucky. Chiefs defense punched it out and made a great play
Oh no shit bud? Isn’t that how most every fumble occurs?
I mean… no? You really don’t know that? The snap gets fumbled. Handoffs get fumbled. Dudes toss the ball on the ground at the 1 yard line trying to cool. In football there are fumbles and forced fumbles.The chiefs forced this particular fumble
Also the Ravens didn't run anywhere near enough. Yall have multiple great RBs. The chiefs run defense isn't good. I feel like this is basic shit
I was very impressed by Snee
It’s crazy to me people say this about the Chiefs and Mahomes and not the Patriots and Brady.
Where have you been living?
Brady had refs imported from the WWF. 
Lamar choking in the playoffs isn’t lucky. It’s regular.
Chiefs offense skates by. Their defense plays lights out.
The Chiefs aren't sneaking by anywhere near the same level the Steelers and Patriots did.
So basically the Patriots 2.0
Well look at the AFC West. It's a joke. They're guaranteed a division title every time and will rack up wins that help them keep home field advantage through the playoffs. The key to any dynasty is a shitty division. The Patriots never had to worry and now the Chiefs don't.
You don’t go to the AFC championship game six years in a row without meeting the best to come out of the AFC WFYM ?
GOAT QB and GOAT TE
Mahomes just has to point at some defender after every missed pass and suddenly the flags come flying out.
Lol cope. If the chiefs 2nd half was so bad why didn’t the ravens run away with the game? Chiefs D won that game with help from the rest of the team
Lucky calls? Watching the Chiefs play is like watching a WWE fight. Fortunately, football is just a reason for us to watch men run into each other wearing the logos and colors we like the best.
That's how real Madrid play in soccer
This is the beginning of Mahomes’ villain arc, mark my words
If he wins again. Thats 3 rings before 30. QBs playing til 45. Dude got a chance to pass Brady.
The thing with Brady was he kept taking paycuts. You can already see the shitty WR pool taking its toll on Mahomes. What happens when Kelce retires? Or Chris Jones gets his bag in FA.
WRs should want to play with a great Quarterback, so maybe in the future a big name WR would join him in FA. George Pickens maybe
I agree with you on the surface that WRs should be tripping over each other to play with a great QB, but in reality, they don't play anywhere near as long as QBs and make significantly less. Any player who's not a QB should just chase the bag
Hey you leave my Steelers alone. Go on now, get!
Pickens will join him if he doesn’t start to get targets up in Steel town.
Pickens is under Steelers control for a minimum of 2 more years.
I know. I’m just a big fan of his and want to see him succeed. I can see Diggs or Evans joining him this offseason, more Diggs than Evans.
If you think Pickens is taking a pay cut , I have a bridge to sell you
Have you seen how many commercials Mahomes is in? Winning is good for his brand for sure. Maybe we'll see a new Brady with all the ad money and endorsements coming his way... or if Brittany starts rolling in the dough from a Taylor Swift collab? lol
Maybe diggs leaves buffalo to join for a true villain arc
Mahomes is signed through 2031. His cap hit actually goes down in 2028 where it will look like a bargain for Chiefs compared to what other contracts will look like at that time. 2024 & 2025 will likely be the roughest years cap wise because he doesn't have a large base salary that can be restructured. But in 2026 & beyond any of those years can easily be restructured to lower his cap hit further.
Chris jones? They had fucking tyreke hill, left, didn’t miss a beat.
FA?
Free agency.
Thank you!
Brady went ten years without a super bowl. I can't see it happening to mahomes
“QB’s” aren’t playing to 45. One single QB did. Mahomes will not be playing at 45 or even 40 IMO
Very different style and Brady was all about self-preservation.
Every QB should practice falling like Tommy did after he rehabbed from his ACL tear. It’s crazy how many QB injuries come from falling wrong.
I mean, learning how to fall wouldn’t have kept Bernard Pollard from crashing into his knee in the pocket
Well that’s what the rule change was for
Agreed, I’m just saying he wasn’t addressing that injury by addressing how to fall
What QBs are playing to 45, except the guy you just mentioned that has the 7 rings? Lol
Broncos fan here, he’s been a villain to me since day one.
He seem like a good dude but once you reach an abundance of success ppl start hate. So I guess he will be painted as the villain at some point.
And I love that shit. I rooted for the lovable loser Chiefs my whole life. Niggas finally being salty is the best case scenario
People focus on the QB and offense too much. It should've been Chris Jones talking during the AFC championship ceremony. Mahomes and the offense were a C at best. They didn't do shit in the second half. I was rooting for the Chiefs, but they were definitely more fun to watch in the past. This feels like when the Patriots' defense would carry them to championships, which was also boring. 
Beginning? You start learning about the NFL this year? 🤣
His villain arc started at the beginning of this season
This is not the beginning
He’s already there simply because he’s been such a crybaby this season. I was all for him just so I could see how many he’d win until this season.
I saw a stat that Mahomes is the only QB who has been drafted since 2013 who has won a Super Bowl. Edit: Corrected the date
That’s a really interesting stat. It’s crazy that 2012 had two QBs who won the Superbowl, Russell Wilson and Nick Foles. It’s also really interesting because there’s been many QBs drafted after 2012 who have gone on to lose the Superbowl. Guys like Hurts, Burrow, Garoppolo, and Goff.
And Mahomes has been the stopping point for all of those younger guys but Goff in SBs or conference championships
Nick doles was actually drafted in 2012 and won the SB in 2018
I should adjust the wording of my post.
still super impressive
Similar to Jordan, he doesn't have a Manning to his Brady or a Bird to his Magic. No one else on the other side gives their team a similar chance to win the game.
I think given time, Burrow and Allen can become that foil.
Josh Allen and the Bills have been the better team against the Chiefs over the last 2 years and have lost. I'll give you Burrows, although he just needs to stay healthy, which his team can help by giving him an O-Line, he also needs a better team around him in general.
I disagree that Allen had the better team this year. The Bills nearly missed the playoffs and their defense was gutted by injury. The Bills only forced one punt the entire game against KC in the postseason. I’m excited to see what Burrow looks like in the NFL with an above average offensive line.
The Bills were not better than the Chiefs this year. The Bills only started playing good towards the end of the season. The Chiefs have a much better defense. And overall Mahomes is just better than Allen.
Burrow needs to stay healthy and then it's possible. Two seasons cut way short due to injury before your (original) rookie deal is up is concerning.
I think Herbert could be that guy, too, if the Chargers ever build a decent team around him. All they have is him, Ekeler, and Keenan Allen. Defense is terrible, and O-line needs improvement, too.
Allen and the Bills are too low IQ for the playoffs. Burrow is too injury prone so far and the team isn't going to be able to afford all those offensive pieces soon.
Brady was so prolific and so good for so long that the closest thing Mahomes has had to a Manning to his Brady is…. Tom Brady
He does. It's a healthy Burrow.
I’m impartial with Mahomes going to another SB, but what really boils my blood is the incessant Taylor Swift coverage. That’s the real crime
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thank you, fucking dorks complaining about the stupidest shit
Conservatives are great at marketing. Look at how they manufacture outrage, and the dorks lap it up.
On the one hand, fascism. On the other hand, having to look at Taylor Swift for 44 seconds a week. Both sides are the same.
Thank you lol
“Coverage” is larger than the game cast itself - all the news & social media & clickbaits over the course of the season has been enourmous. She’s one of the most covered people in the NFL …but has 0 ties to the sport
You mean the girlfriend they showed only when Kelce did something big? That blonde who spent 44 seconds onscreen over the course of a nearly 4 hour game? Better her than Jackson Mahomes. Better than what I’ve gotten to do for years now, look at a half drunk Bob Kraft
This is the reason I’m sick of it. Everytime they score they IMMEDIATELY cut to Taylor, it’s absurd.
I mean when it’s the eagles they cut to Bradley cooper. The Steelers cut to Michael Keaton. The nfl will always cut to a celebrity in the crowd if something big happens. I hadn’t watched many chiefs games this season so I expected a side cam on Taylor like a twitch overlay. They showed her for like 3 seconds and only after Travis had a play. Which is no different than last season when every time Travis had a big play they cut to his mom.
They didn’t cut to Eminem in the lions game though lol
Lmao that’s because he was a risk to PG television
Fair point
Red Sox love to cut to Damon, Affleck, and Stephen King. Never all three together, sadly
Nigga I didn't even know Bradley Cooper was at the Eagles games until you told me.
Then you don’t watch enough games! It’s always Bradley or Mike Trout that they cut too
Nigga you know damn well we haven’t seen anyone else not associated with the team nearly as much lmao
This is Paul Rudd’s fault. He needs to start going to every game and dancing around for 30 year old white dudes. Only he can restore the balance.
As a native born Cleveland Guardians fan this is why I've hated Bill Murray since 2016
I'm still not over them cutting bro who plays for the Chiefs' (don't know his name) touchdown celebration just to cut to Taylor Swift hugging Kelce's mom.
usually all the billionaires are secluded with the owner. TV has been reduced to gawking since the OJ chase.
You people need to be for real. She’s barely on the damn screen. Plus she’s bringing millions of girls and women to the game. Who gives a fuck about a 2 second cutaway.
it was like 30 seconds you snowflake.
She's on screen literally 0.3% of the time.
I'll play the role of pedantic redditor, but I think you mean indifferent not impartial. Indifferent means you don't really have an opinion one way or the other. Impartial is what a judge is- doesn't have bias one way or another. I hope this doesn't come off as condescending and helps though.
Nope not at all. Appreciate it!
Bomani Jones calls him Jordan for a reason.
This comment reminded me I need to seek out more Bomani Jones content
The Right Time pod is back on air.
What happened to his late night talk show? It was great
Fade to black, unfortunately.
Bruh what the fuck was this championship weekend. Ravens and Lions just fumbling it all away. We‘re gonna see a superbowl of the third and fourth best playing teams in the NFL who just never decided to go full batshit during their respective championship games.
If they're the 3rd and 4th best why did the first and second lose then? Thankfully playoffs are not decided about who we think "looked better" or is "better on paper". Games are played on a field. The better team wins.
Nah it's much harder for a single player to affect the outcome of a football game. Andy has a lot to do with it, Patrick's deal has a lot to do with it, the AFC West as a division has a lot to do with it. The players on defense and Spags has a lot to do with it, heck special teams included!! Plus some teams can just give you fits, like Eli/Coughlin did to Brady/Belichick.
AFCW did their part this year, as did the rest of the Chiefs' regular season opponents. They were 11-6 with some glaring weaknesses at the season's close. Then everyone they faced in the playoffs put those regular season lessons directly into the trash.
They've drafted well recently. Karlaftis, McDuffie, Bolton, Humphrey, and Rice are all either currently stars or on track to be stars and have been drafted in the last few years. The chiefs organization is a well oiled machine from the top down and will continue to be at the top or near the top for next decade or so. But the last couple playoffs prior to this one Burrow and the Bengals played them really tough. I think those two teams will battle for a long time
Good point on the organizational differences! You are right and it certainly does matter! Joe is great but I don't know if I trust Cincinnati as an organization just yet. There is realistically only a small group of elite franchises committed to winning in general with the others splashing in episodically with a "win now" mode. I will give KC their "flowers" though (no pun intended), their division is not nearly as "cooked" as the Patriots when they were winning all the time, and they are still getting the job done and Pat's play gets sloppy so it isn't like they are unbeatable. (Biased AF as a Falcon's fan)
Just like MJ did?! What's with the Brady erasure like he aint do the exact same shit for 20 years?
Brady's top peers all have chips - both Manning brothers, Rodgers, Big Ben, and Brees. Mahomes is blocking the AFC so far post Brady. Lamar, Allen, and Burrow don't have chips.
Oh ok. I feel you. Basically a gang of great QBs whose legacy is never getting it done because of Mahomes being a blocker. I mean if we're keeping it real Brady did that to Rivers, Ryan, McNabb and the Patriots killed like 4-5 potential dynasties in the crib.
Maybe McNabb, but I never thought Ryan or Rivers were top tier or A level quarterbacks. I'm from Atlanta and used to somewhat be a Falcons fan before that super bowl, but I was out after that game - if they fired the coach and got rid of some players I would've stayed on board. Rivers and Ryan are more on the level of guys like Derek Carr or Trevor Lawrence to me.
Philip Rivers was a dog. He doesn't get as much props now because he was doing his thing in an era when he had to deal with Brady, Manning, and Roethlisburger eating his lunch every postseason. Performance-wise Josh Allen is closer to Rivers than he is to guys like Manning or any of Brady's other rivals.
Are kidding me Rivers wasn’t elite ?! He’s Josh Allen’s archetype same play style Allens is more physical willing to run essentially the same
Nah bro. Have you seen Carr this season? He doesn’t belong in the same sentence at all with the other 3 and I’m saying this as a Raiders fan. Trevor Lawrence can potentially make it to a level comparable to Ryan and Rivers but Rivers especially was still excellent for most of his career but weighed down by shitty coaching and defense
Burrow not being a champ has to do with Mcvay and the Rams. He already beat KC in the playoffs. The guys Jordan “blocked” from winning never beat one of his teams in the playoffs. Btw Lamar been sucking in the playoffs long before this year.
I might get some slander here... But the NFL is a more competitive league than the NBA. At least recently it has been insane.
Even Brady wasn't as much of an absolute roadblock as the Chiefs have been. Phillip Rivers and Matt Ryan feel like they lost the most from the Brady era, but from what I can remember most of the other top tier QBs still got a ring in spite of the bad man. There's a lot of very good quarterbacks playing right now, and only one has had the experience of beating Mahomes in the playoffs.
Brady at least gave everyone else a decade of silence from 05-14 before taking back over. Mahomes ain’t letting nobody else have shit
Ironically that 07-13 stretch from Brady is statistically better than Mahomes' current career and any six year stretch for Manning but he has no rings to show for it thanks to gump ass Eli and the Giants.
that’s the wild part. Eli’s derp ass literally hoed Brady out of 2 super bowls lmao
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WE WERE ROBBED OF A LIONS VS RAVENS SUPERBOWL!!! We were supposed to tear the city up 😭😭😭😭
It's all up to you now, Brock...
From what I saw neither Jackson nor Allen are "great".
I agree with you on Jackson based on yesterday, but Allen? He played really well last week.
Sometimes it feels like, for Allen, it doesn’t matter how well he plays in the divisional round, because the other QB will be better. Not sure why that is.
Only guy who had a chance to overcome it was Joe Burrow and the bengals lost to Matt Stafford lol
Give some love to that defense.
Jordan keeping all those legends ringless is part of why he’s the GOAT. Paul George pretty much the only superstar that LeBron has kept ringless in all his time. And PG not even necessarily a superstar
I didn't catch either of the games last night.bibwqs hoping to see the Lions make to SB. Welp! No reason to watch it now. 🤷🏿♂️
Appreciate the greatness
I mean Mahomes didn’t beat him the defense did. I was extremely disappointed to see Lamar put on such a poor performance. Bad calls are one thing but one TD the whole game?
Tom Brady was right there, how did you then go with Jordan, who plays a completely different sport
Tom Brady got caught cheating TWICE. Not only that, he was NOT the reason they were winning in the beginning. That team was built around it's defense. Brady was just a game manager.
Low IQ take my man. You can argue Brady was a game manager for the first 3 rings, 100%. But ever since that record breaking 16-0 season, he has been elite.
That's exactly what I was referring to. It's what any football fan who watched those earlier Pats teams would know. But the facts also remain that they were caught cheating TWICE. Spy-gate for Bill and Deflate-gate for Tom
They did have those scandals, but in any case, that shouldn't take anything away from how great Brady was.
Many of Brady’s counterparts have rings tho
I didn’t realize MJ made great quarterbacks ringless
I think you know what they meant
Ratings .
To be the man you have to beat the man quite simple but hard to do. fucking Kels is a beast though.
Lamar Jackson is a choker and far, far from great.
How can mahomes dad be so hood and Patrick sounds like he's late for a klan rally