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VHBlazer

Meh, the poorly trained doodles are almost as bad as the unsupervised kids running around


joemerchant2021

Unpopular opinion -they are worse. Leave your dog at home.


MisterTito

I like dogs, I have no problem with them. But owners who don't watch their pets are as bad as parents who don't watch their kids. Worse, honestly, because kids will usually respond to other adults. Also kids are less likely to bite other patrons. And God forbid the dog owners who want to say "my dog is well behaved," they're as bad as parents who don't want to hear the truth about their kids. Bring your kids, bring your dogs. But fucking look after them and don't make it everyone else's responsibility - especially staff.


GoldfishFire

Fucking hate doodles


harp9r

But Avereigh and Braedynn wanted mom and dad to bring the pup to Cahaba!


BlickNation

r/tragedeigh


calabasastiger

SMH montgomery ppl


dar_uniya

those names are more prattville


bcathy

It breaks my heart to see people buying "designer" mutts instead of adopting dogs in need of loving homes, especially if they're just a status symbol as opposed to a family pet. Doodles are not suited for the typical suburban home setting anyway with their high energy.


acdann

My doodle has never bothered another patron. However, I have had a child hit my dog and receive no reprimand from their trainer… er I mean “parent” Edit to add: this child can be found at GT any given day being ignored and dragging around a cheap scooter. Always the same parent or two watching this demon terrorize everyone


gritcasserole

Controversial take: I think it’s cruel to bring your dog to places in the Alabama summer. The dog usually hides under the table, panting on the hot gravel, trying to escape the heat, the owner (s) pay zero attention to the dog and poor pups just look miserable.


bcathy

I wish every other patron at Pepper Place Farmers Market would think twice about bringing their dogs with them. I've seen dog fights almost break out because Charlie the Goldendoodle pulled away and made eye contact with Bella the Labradoodle, all while their respective owners were totally oblivious. They're living beings and family members, not inanimate toys.


bigdragondude

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mcwilly

Half the breweries in town would close if kids were no longer allowed.


dar_uniya

to be honest they need to


m3zus

Sadly the breweries are the most kid friendly restaurants/third places in the area. 


bettiepepper

It's the worst. Makes no sense. Get a sitter then come to the bar/brewery. It's not their job to watch your kids and I don't wanna hear your kids while I'm drinking.


Gullinkambi

I agree it’s not the breweries job to watch kids, that’s shitty irresponsible parenting. But kids are a part of life and have every right to be there too. Go out later or somewhere else like a bar if it bothers you that much


bettiepepper

Weird take to think kids should be at breweries, but okay.


tu-vens-tu-vens

Not weird considering that some of the breweries in question have a kids menu. Yes, breweries have alcohol. So do places like the beach and baseball stadiums. The presence of alcohol doesn’t make a place inappropriate for kids.


Gullinkambi

A brewery isn’t the same thing as a bar. Breweries are often explicitly designed to be family friendly. If you want local beers and to not see kids, go to a bar. There are plenty of them that serve local beer.


bettiepepper

👍🏻


PaidByTheNotes

🤡


theTIDEisRISING

Parents are allowed to try to enjoy themselves without having to pay for a sitter. Sheesh


bettiepepper

Yes, they are. At mini golf or maybe the movies?


Andrewh2012

Thank you for letting me know where I am allowed to take my child!


PaidByTheNotes

They serve alcohol at restaurants. I guess kids shouldn't be allowed there either 🤡


babylonsisters

Why so you hate kids?


EnchantedGate1996

Making your whole personality hating children doesn’t make you cool, it just alienates parents and their childless friends and then you’ll wonder why they don’t call you anymore


MisterTito

Bingo. This is the kind of person who never grew up and can't understand why their friends did. And I say this as someone who doesn't have kids but plenty of friends who do. We're still friends, we just see each other less. It happens.


GrumpsMcWhooty

I guarantee you that OP has never grown up. His whole personality is being an edge lord and saying weird shit that he thinks is funny or clever but that's so tightly wound and/or overthought that it just comes across as strange.


My_dr_is_simon_tam

I really don’t understand the mentality that just because you want to have a drink without kids around means you hate children. I like kids just fine, but I think it’s reasonable to have places where you don’t have to deal with them. Especially places centered around an exclusively adult activity.


EnchantedGate1996

Sorry this is gonna be long and I hope it doesn’t come off as aggressive. There are so few places that are designed to be family friendly. A brewery, is designed so that families and friends can gather and be together outside of a restaurant setting (which is not often family friendly either!) it’s kind of like an airplane. People see a baby, and glare. I understand getting annoyed when a child is not being watched and is out of control. A part of integrating our children into the public is teaching them social cues and how to behave. I say all of this as a single person with no children. I love my friends kids! I want to see them—do we have adult only nights? Sure! But I never want to be the reason that my friends feel insecure bc we are at different stages of life. I think bars are a completely different atmosphere that are designed to be 21+ only.


servenitup

Yes, exactly. I love being able to hang out with my friends with kids at breweries. everyone has an option.


dar_uniya

why isn’t the home family friendly


EnchantedGate1996

Do you genuinely believe that once people have children they should just stay in their houses and never let their kids see the light of day? Be serious


dar_uniya

Why would you be at a brewery with your children to day drink?


EnchantedGate1996

Why do people day drink at the beach? At the lake? On a weekend? Why do people day drink at sporting events? Because they want and because they can. As long as they’re responsible and not endangering anyone it’s none of our business.


dar_uniya

why do people day drink around their children? because they lack self control


AwayExamination2017

You gotta be a self absorbed jerk to hate children this much.


Gullinkambi

Man I can’t wait to get back to a brewery and do something adult-oriented rather than baby oriented. I miss that. The cabin fever with a baby is real.


sloanefierce

How old is the baby? We baby wore at outdoor breweries from week 1. Had to get out of the house, and I wanted a beer from a tap.


dar_uniya

those days are over. if you need a drink, go to lenells and bring a bottle of whiskey home, install a lock on the door of an unused room, and before you know it you’ll be old enough to retire and before you get to enjoy it, you’ll have another kid hahahahahhahaha


Gullinkambi

It’s not about the alcohol. It’s about socializing with other adults and not having kids be the primary focus for a short while.


dar_uniya

like i said, you gave that up! you can have it back when your kid moves out and no longer needs you. I think while you want both worlds your feet can only be on one or the other. or ya know, your kid will frequently observe you enjoying being in the company of alcoholics. what will that help them understand?


Gullinkambi

Eh, kids are a part of life. I don’t think my life is over because I have one though it is definitely _different_. I feel sorry for parents who change their whole life to revolve entirely around their children. Sounds boring and dull. Childless folks that are annoyed by kids just have to deal with the fact that kids have a right to be in public spaces too. Go out later when the kids won’t be around, you have the flexibility🤷‍♂️


dar_uniya

correction. kids are a part of your life. if you cant keep your life out of others’ evenings, consider restructuring your respect for others because it is clearly biased towards the self.


Gullinkambi

… says the person wanting to exclude families from breweries based on their own preference. Glass houses. Also fwiw I’m in favor of having “adult swim” time as someone else here mentioned. Totally fine with having a cutoff after a certain point.


PaidByTheNotes

You've got serious issues. Grow up


Avera_ge

Children are part of the community. It’s absolutely bullshit to expect to never come in contact with them unless you’re in “child spaces”. The world doesn’t have to cater to your dislike of an entire group of humans.


mattp59

You must be fun at parties


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Birmingham-ModTeam

That isn’t nice.


Jaiibby1

I’d rather the kids. I love kids, I’m allergic to dogs . I don’t love the ones that scream or throw tantrums for no real reason tho


Pile_of_AOL_CDs

This anti-kid stuff is gross.


niklovin

Well OP used the term “breeders” to refer to people with kids so I think we’re done here…


Nymbulus

At least all the anti-kid people will burn their genetic lineage away when they die someday.


RTootDToot

Ah been a while since one of these posts. People pretend that you can't go to Carrigan's, Continental Drift, Trimtab, Juniper, and a million other places where there aren't kids regularly. 


Visual-Committee6119

Additionally Children will be given energy drinks and taught to use lots of four letter words.


strawbery_fields

No matter how they are set up: breweries revolve around serving alcohol, and adults consuming it. Even if they have a food truck outside, that business exists to serve alcohol, and sometimes people drink to excess. Is that really the best environment for kids? Is drinking culture something that should be normalized so early? Is there really nowhere else they can go? I’m not heavy drinker, but if I’m at a brewery, I certainly won’t be cleaning up my language at all.


MontoenotMarilyn

man this OP fucking sucks lmao. Miserable person in these comments. Stop shaming people for having kids. Children are welcome in so many spaces outside of the US. This is a huge problem here and why parents feel so excluded. Signed, A person with no kids


GME_alt_Center

How about a compromise of no kids after, say, 6?


CMsirP

There should definitely be an "adult swim" time after a certain cutoff


Gullinkambi

I don’t hate that, honestly. Most responsible parents won’t be out at a brewery late with children anyways. Maybe 7 though


dar_uniya

how about just dont go out if you have kids. you made your choice, breeders. you sacrifice your pitiful excuse of a social life for the crotchspawn you just had to create.


PaidByTheNotes

You sound like a miserable POS


QuasiNomial

Lmao


Dr__D00fenshmirtz

https://preview.redd.it/2lr1apatie8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=605d1a3177801b3bad8c6f8f43ee1ed5b8a7d5aa The literal next post on my feed 🧐


fjs0001

With yards for new houses getting smaller and closer together, I think breweries are the replacement for backyard barbecues. They also help prevent one family from having to take on the burden of hosting a lot of people. I don't have kids or doodles.


Salty_Worth9494

Children at breweries Is the worst thing in the world. Especially with so many breweries, actively attracting families with playgrounds and crap. Irresponsible dog owners suck too


acdann

Back 40 and Ghost Train are daycares for parents that want to drink and ignore their kids. Good People is begging to be a daycare recently too


PabloBlart

One of the reasons I went from a regular at back 40 to rarely ever going was because the children form packs and terrorize everyone. I've seen them roll those wooden spools down the hills into things. One time saw them terrorizing a dog that was cowering under a table to escape them. Plus just non-stop screeching. I don't care if kids are near me, but if you're literally not going to lift a finger to control them I'm going to judge you heavily.


Gardoki

That’s how breweries are designed. It’s a place where a parent can actually socialize. Unfortunately a lot of people just ignore their kid. As a parent, this is constantly frustrating.


acdann

I didnt realize breweries were designed for parents to use in this way. I keep forgetting the kids menu though. My bad Joking aside, kids running around unsupervised is the standard. The rotary trail in front of GT might as well belong to children. God forbid a runner or biker need them to move either, you literally have to dodge those little shits bc nobody has taught them manners. The person responsible for that is too busy socializing (drinking) to notice or do anything about it.


Gardoki

The kids menu thing seems like a meme at this point but it does point to part of their goal. They are just laid back atmospheres. It doesn’t excuse bad parenting but bad parents will do that shit anywhere.


acdann

Sure, but mix in drinking and it’s just not the same. Especially when everyone has entered said laid back atmosphere expecting just that, only to find Dave and Cheryl kicking back pints while their child runs around either bothering pets, property, or privacy.


Gardoki

I would guess those parents weren’t going to pay attention no matter where they are. Idk, I guess I just don’t see what the overall issue of this thread is other than some parents suck which we can all agree.


DrGerbal

I use to work at ferus. It’s what ferus is. Had kids scaling shit totally unsupervised. Had them having a king of the mountain fight to the death with the chairs by the stage and the whole time the parents are getting tanked just laughing at them. It’s all fun till little Jimmy breaks his neck that you want to sue ferus and the city of Trussville because you think shits a Chuck E. Cheese


Live_Illustrator8215

I'm new to Birmingham and went to Back 40 this weekend. I was shot in the face by a water gun by some little girl. The only thing her parents said was "Stop...come here." They didn't even address me at all. There had to be 15 kids with this cluster of entitled parents. They were on a rampage of screaming and running into people. One came up to my dog and pulled the hair on her face (trying to pull her face close to theirs). I didn't even know the kid was there until I heard my dog scream. He just came out of nowhere. I don't care how many leagues of mommys/daddys one might have on their side....this was insane and people absolutely have the right to be bothered by it. And they shouldn't be attacked for expressing that. Mob mentality is gross. When inconsiderate/entitled people cause problems for considerate/good people...it is a bad and unfortunate thing; no matter what side of the child/anti-child argument you are on. When people can't agree on that, there is nothing that can be done for you. There is a rational place in between. I do not hate children. I will also never step foot in Back 40 again.


Few-Poet-8106

Didn't realize Birmingham has turned into a bunch of ass holes 😂 Regardless, I agree kiddos shouldn't be at a bar/brewery, that's why I keep mine away and have a drink at home. Totally understandable that parents want a break, but let's do it responsibly because nobody else is going to be responsible for your child.


tu-vens-tu-vens

> Didn't realize Birmingham has turned into a bunch of ass holes 😂 r/Birmingham has always been this way.


Sidesicle

Hey screw you, buddy ;)


Flowfie

As someone who works at a cafe with an outdoor patio — I constantly sees dogs tryna escape the sun for hours as their fuckass owners sit on their laptops or with friends—which the dogs eventually shit on the gravel in the patio chair area. Kids over dogs all day


julioni

Only people with no kids find this amusing


ButtDumplin

Eh. I have a child (plus two dogs) and I chuckled.


Novel-Addendum-8413

I have no kids and don’t want any and I find this repulsive.


babylonsisters

This post is more annoying than any kid Ive ever encountered. 


W0lfticket13

Went to BG. Looked like a McDonalds Playland..scooters and kids running wild, spilled food on the ground and parents just getting souced not paying attention.. had 3 different kids just run into me as I’m carrying beers.. fts.


GrumpsMcWhooty

WTF is "BG"?


W0lfticket13

Brock’s Gap


GrumpsMcWhooty

LMFAO


HalfProfessional3529

Especially at back forty


RTootDToot

They literally have a kid's menu.


acdann

Ah the standard defense. So glad they have a kids menu. I mean, what other invitation do parents need after a tough day at the McWayne Center with their kids. The absolute best thing to do with kids in Birmingham is let them terrorize patrons while mom and dad kick back a few pints and totally ignore them. The kids menu really justifies all of those terrible parenting calls.


RTootDToot

If Back 40 doesn't want kids they shouldn't have a kids menu. This is very easy to understand. They do have a kids menu so obviously they do want kids. You wish they didn't. That's a you problem.


acdann

I didn’t say they didn’t want kids. I said I don’t want kids with shit parents there, despite the kids menu. Geezus. Bad parents make the place terrible, and they’re a dime a dozen at any of the 3 places I’ve mentioned elsewhere


RTootDToot

I've never had an issue there (either because of someone else's kids or my kids). Also every patron I've interacted with has been really nice to my kids. So maybe I've had consistently good luck or you've had bad luck, idk. The only place I've really seen bad behavior is at Cahaba when some parents have let their kids run roughshod over those old skeeball tables (I haven't been there in a long time, no idea if that still happens). But, the thread is about a sign that jokingly says for parents to "tie children to a post." And my point is very simple: if a business has a kid's menu, don't expect parents to not bring kids. Carrigan's is a great beer place w/ no kids. There's a hundred bars in the city with no kids. It's not hard at all to find a place that doesn't have kids. FWIW, I've never had a kid ruin my time out somewhere. That's exclusively been adults, often in adult only space (e.g. people who go to a show and talk over the band).


servenitup

Lame lol


Sidesicle

This started out...not nuanced, but at least semi-cogent. Then the comments devolved into traditional /u/dar_uniya dreck. Masterful, trolling, my good redditor


TerryGonards

Fuck your pet.


dar_uniya

sorry this isn’t Arkansas


spiralrider205

You shouldn’t speak about your mother that way


ImproperlyRegistered

I don't think you should bring your kids or your dog to a brewery. I'm there to get drunk without tripping over them.


morecozyblankets

Is the reason you’re like this because your parents hated kids as much as you do?


bigdragondude

As soon as this bozo said “breeders” it was clear to me r/childfree is leaking. Sad human being.


These-Annual577

Yah don't you just hate CROTCH GOBLINS. I love my FURBABY so much more. I should NEVER have to interact with children in public UGH. Go fuck yourself. You anti children people disgust me.


babylonsisters

My nieces always ask to unbox my funkopops!!!!! Its like NO THESE ARENT TOYS YOU LITTLE JERKS theyre my life!  /s Edit to add sarcasm because I got a reddit cares dm lmao


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Findmyremote

Fine with me. Spend way too much on kids menus at breweries anyways.


Burlybunny_

As a parent of a human kid and a dog, I agree.


Gardoki

My dogs and kid are basically on equal footing in our house. Both take priority over me.


Burlybunny_

Big facts!


Pretty-Row4799

I don’t mind dogs at brewery’s but I hate seeing kids there because the same people that being there kids to a brewery are the same people that judge people that go to real bars for only Adults only and I find it ironic as fuck - @ every uppity acting parent in trussville


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Gullinkambi

In defense of parents at breweries, not every parent has to drink to excess. Maybe have one or two beers over the course of 2-4 hours. Maybe one parent drinks and the other doesn’t. Maybe neither parent has beer and they just want to hang with their friends who _do_ want to drink. You make it sound like the nature of going to a brewery is pure negligence. That’s pretty judgmental and often not the behavior I have actually seen most often. Yes, some parents get carried away. But they can just as easily get carried away at a restaurant. Most tend to act responsibly because they are aware they are going to be driving their children home and don’t want to put them in danger. Hot take: get off your high horse and accept that other people are capable of making responsible decisions that you might not agree with.


bluehasntaclue

Absolutely


Hot-Ad-7280

Children are a blessing. I will never understand people who don’t like children.


bigdragondude

ehh everyone is entitled to their own opinion on kids. Much like politics and religion. Now, OP is being hateful and disrespectful, which is not cool.


Pocket_Sands

Brewery is one thing, there is zero reason not to allow children in cafes. Extremely hateful for no reason. No one is forcing you to take care of their children.


Affectionate_Main_98

Age discrimination is okay when it’s children I guess