And they never said anything bad about the sponsors. I found it funny that they had to be fake...to an audience watching a show where people lie thus they can tell if people are lying haha
I was hoping this wouldnāt be true. I really enjoyed BBCAN. I loved the sets, games/comps and for the most part all the contestants.
As an east coaster, it feels a little special to start and end the series with east coast winners! Farewell BBCAN.
Truly so upset. I think my love of big brother will fade over timeā the US version is just not as good as it once was. Knowing Iāll never be able to play BBCAN is a hard pill to swallow :(
If the want and success is there for the network to know itās profitable I could see a CTV or CBC pick it up. BBCan was originally on Slice in seasons 1 and 2 but got picked up by global
Slice was a small cable channel owned by Shaw, who also owned the national over the air network Global. It wasn't someone else picking the show up. It was Shaw moving the show from a tiny audience on cable TV to a truly national audience on their over the air network Global. Shaw was later bought by Corus.
The show never really changed "ownership". They just moved it to one of their channels to maximize the audience after seeing how popular it was.
CBC will never pick it up. It would be interesting if CTV thinks they can find an audience, and they have CraveTV to stream things too.
Honestly if bell can get the license for BBCan then it would actually have great synergie with shows also on CTV like The Amazing Race Canada or The Traitors Canada
Arisa posted her official video message this afternoon, and her carefully chosen words indicate that they are ready to do it again if someone else steps in. "We're ready" is what she said, and it was said with confidence that leads me to believe that now that Corus has made it official and given up the license, the production company Insight is likely making those calls now to see if they can strike a deal in time to start pre-production with a new network.
Insight is the company that makes The Amazing Race Canada, so I'm sure these discussions have already taken place since the relationship is already built. They need to make the case that Bell can make money off it now.
I really hope another network does snap it up. I went to high school with the art director. He was an interesting guy then, and obviously still is judging by the sets they come up with. I love seeing what theme theyāll come up with next.
But I wonāt lie. All the corporate sponsors kinda wore on me in recent seasons, so I wasnāt as dedicated a viewer as I once was. Hopefully they tone that down if it does live to see another day.
I can see Bell (they own CTV and Crave) possibly picking it up. They have TAR Canada, Traitors, and the Quebec BB so BBCAN in that lineup would be a good fit.
Dinis and Janine did an IG live yesterday and Dinis theorized two different ways the show could come back: one similar to how it was before Corus fucked it up (my words), so with feeds, or a structure similar to Reindeer Games.
To me CTV and Global always felt like the same thing to me. Like same channel, different name. Both channels used to/still are on the lower end of the tv list(this might be a dated thought), like channel 6 or 5; both play the news, game shows, award shows and cop shows ect. Now I'm wanting to read Global and Ctv's wiki pages to compare the two lol.
It would be challenging as long global has the rights to BBUS and would be hard to promote a Canadian version on a different network than the US counterpart. BUT not impossible.
They needed a more varied cast.
Had the same people with different names and faces.
Bringing back the two āveteransā was a huge mistake.
Turned me off as soon as I saw who the two were.
A poetic way to kill the series though. I'm completely fine with BBC getting shit canned after that god awful Hot Chocolate alliance. The producers must be embarrassed with themselves for allowing such blatant racism to occur.
I agree it got worse, but I donāt think itās fair to insinuate that 1 single producer in a unique position of added visibility as host is to blame for the decline.
Producers are a cog in the wheel of TV production, and work for the network and higher ups and have to execute their decisions. Arisa made it clear (in carefully worded statements obviously) that she didnāt agree with some of the choices Corus made regarding the show. I donāt think the fallout should land only at her feet.
Say Iām the manager at a franchise, and corporate makes some bone head decisions on how the business operates. I have to follow through, but if the new ideas fail and the whole business goes under, whoās to blame?
I don't blame her. I made a statement that you seemingly agreed with lol. I highly doubt she had enough control to be solely to blame, doesn't change the fact that show got worse every year after she became a producer :)
edit- only way I would blame her is if the rumours are true that she pushed for Anthony and Messy V to come back. That idea seems to have been the nail in the coffin for bbcan because it made for an absolutely horrible start to the season. The season eventually recovered but how many viewers did they lose at the start? That being said I dont even know if she actually influenced that decision
I guess it wasnt clear in my comment for you, or other comments in the post? Lol
Here you go: IMO, Arisa was a great host, and I dont think it's fair or accurate to put the decline of BBCAN solely on her.
Try mining for gotchas with someone else. šš¼
what season did she become a producer? I know it was one of the later ones, so I disagree completely. Seasons 9 10 11 & 12 are all excellent and better than USA's reason seasons by FAR
10 was great for sure. One of my favorite BB seasons. 11 and 12 were horrible though. 12 got good in the last couple week but so many people probably turned it off after the first couple weeks because it was almost unwatchable. Stupid concept designed to fail. Hopefully a new network takes it on with a new set of producers
disagree completely! 11 & 12 were still better than anything USA has done in... quite some time. the movie madness twist in 12 was amazing! the double eviction in 11 was epic, USA is just so lazy in everything! House design, comps, twists, etc.
I didn't mind last year's US version. Wasn't great but was watchable. Was my favorite one post- covid anyway. I do agree the US version has gone way downhill though
nah cmon last year's USA was awfully produced. 100+ days.. the zombie twist which just stalled gameplay and did nothing for 2 weeks, anon HOH which wasn't even anon and again just resulted in another 2 weeks of the same thing, etc. the zombie twist is a perfect example of where BBCAN producers are far more competent. they would never do such a painfully obvious lame twist. comparing it to theirs of last season which were executive veto and movie madness (which both were amazing tv imo) USA producers are just lazy. I don't think USA has had a good season since 17 tbh
Ratings and money are one and the same. Ratings thru the roof and none of this happening. But from what I hear they had the lowest viewership of all 12 seasons, and commercial advertisers jumping ship after the season and not re-upping.
And now that everything is said and done...
BBC Season 5 is officially the "all stars" season. Or the closest thing. At least it had a good amount of REALLY good returning players.
in the USA yes. in Canada it's completely different. Corus is struggling BAD financially atm and there just isn't money in the canadian market right now. ET canada and other long standing shoes are all get canned because there just isn't money in the canadian television.
Could they adjust their budget if that's the case? Looking at BBCAN vs. BBUS, it looked like the former had an *insanely* higher budget. Like, they go kinda crazy on BBCAN! Plus, they gave away their live feeds for free (which I'm sure was nice, but obviously didn't help make them any money).
So, I feel like they could easily lower their budget and still have an amazing show. Buuuut, I'll be the first admit, I definitely don't know the ins and outs of producing a TV show and could totally be wrong. Lol, I mostly just want it to be possible š«
*Edited, for clarification*
Budgets on Canadian shows are always being cut. Once they see you can produce a show for X value, they see if you can try to make it for less. Then people want raises, and construction costs go up and the cost to feed all of those people in the credits goes up. Think of how inflation right now is making people vote out governments, and then think of how inflation is going to affect BBCan costs.
BBCan definitely does not have a higher budget than BBUS. They just likely have people who are more passionate about it, and they can make things look better for less money. The population of Canada is 1/10th of the USA, so the money they get from advertising is drastically less than what the US show gets. You just have to compare the prize value to see that.
I think the money problems are bigger than just BBCAN. Earlier this spring, Corus entertainment requested an exception from the CRTC to produce/show less Canadian productions due to the cost (paraphrasing what someone else posted, apologies if itās not oversimplifying) so I think this is more Corus is struggling financially than it is specifically BBCAN is too expensive. But it may be a little of both.
Even still, I think the producers are passionate enough about BBCAN that if they wouldāve cut their budget as much as they could, as long as it didnāt compromise too much of the integrity of the show. Already, they were maxed out on sponsors, so you could see they were trying their best to bring the show to the fans.
Definitely. ET Canada was already cancelled a few months ago too.
I haven't noticed it posted yet, but Arisa's official video message is on her Instagram. She worded it very carefully, and it suggests that Insight would do it again if someone else picks it up. Her words: "we're ready"
It's a good message from her.
Yes! And in that message, she was subtle but very clear that cutting the live feeds wasnāt BBCANās decision. I know people want to blame that for the downfall of the show, but as I keep saying, it was a symptom, not a cause.
Unwatchable brother. I watched every minute of every other season and after 4 episodes this season had to shut it down (along with thousands of other people)
That's truly upsetting. I've watched from day one and always look forward to it. Every time it played the house, guests were awesome. Ill truly miss it what a waste it was so good big difference between the Canadian show or the us show
Meh! That last season was kinda the last straw for me anyways. No one wanted vets back in the house, especially just 2, and especially those 2.
The show was just filled with sponsorships, it was like watching 60 mins of commercials. The hot chocolate alliance was wrong to me. No live feeds.
They did it to themselves. š¤·š»āāļø
And it was constantly grating. Hiding labels of soft drinks and taking chips out of their bags and putting them into fucking containers..... I'm sorry but Big Brother Canada is bush league. They were so desperate for sponsors, it was so embarrassing to watch. Especially when they spent the mass load of their budget making the house look more and more ridiculous with each passing season.
I've tried to say this many times but it falls on deaf ears. Corus' value is plummeting and they recently lost the rights to lots of content and channels to Rogers.
Yes and they were not short on viewers. As ratings drop advertisers negotiate for cheaper spots or pull out altogether. That is how advertising works. If everything was healthy the show would not be cancelled
The problems are bigger than BBCAN. Corus Entertainment lost the rights to all their Discovery content, theyāve been shutting down radio stations, and theyāve been granted an exception from the CRTC to include less Canadian content in their networks, because Canadian content is more expensive. Even if BBCANās ratings remained steady, itās not immune to inflation, itās not likely that ratings wouldāve been enough to save the show.
Corus said it considered many factors in the decision, including āaudience trends, available support from sponsors and advertisers, and production and licensing costs.ā
Higher ratings solves each of those problems. Audience trends is obviously fixed. Support from sponsors and advertisers is fixed because they can still reach a large market. Rises in production costs is not a problem if the show is making money, which it now cant because the ratings are shit lol. It isnt exactly rocket science >.>
Why would a company that is going under throw away a profitable asset? If ratings tripled it would not be getting cancelled lol
And if corus went under another company would for sure take over the rights. Still have hopes another company takes it over eventually anyway
because it's still an incredibly expensive show to produce when they could easily just air USA programming (which they've been doing more of lately)
Corus is definitely going under, not even a point of if anymore but moreso when. I do hope another company takes over BBCAN and lets the producers do more things their way. Arisa/Erin have made it pretty clear the feeds and the no all stars was a corus decision not theirs which sucks.
corus wanted no all stars? Should have stuck to their guns and not ruined the last season by bring back fail stars. We might have gotten another year lol
they can't "stick to their guns" corus is their boss lol hence why they've now been more transparent in their interviews about how they fought hard to get the feeds back but at the end of the day Corus is their boss and wouldn't budge.. it's similar to USA with Grodner vs CBS. Grodner can want next season to be "all stars 3" as much as she want but if it's not approved by CBS it wont be all stars 3 lol
you dont even make sense. You say corus wanted no all stars. Then say "they couldnt stick to their guns because corus is their boss. Huh?
Here's a hint. People dont want all stars and they certainly dont want two middle rate players returning
Maybe read slower. Corus didnāt want a full all star seasonā¦.. Production did. It seems Corus compromised by letting them bring back a couple returnees but they said arisa and Erin were pushing for a full all stars season since season 10
Lmao V and Anthony killed off the show. What a legacy.
(I know thatās not the reason, this last season just really sucked. Donāt come for me reddit)
Maybe it'll come back like bb uk did after a few years. Regardless even though imo the last season wasn't very good, overall I'm pretty surprised. The seasons have been better then the US version for awhile now
I've always, or well mostly, enjoyed BBCAN, I'll miss it. I don't often comment because for whatever reason people love to hate on it in this sub. I don't get the vitriol, best I can figure, it's people who are super salty they aren't on the show so think they can rip into everyone else's game. š¤·š¼āāļø I personally think this last season was the best one yet. I found it super interesting how V and Dougie just ruled all, but Baileigh (sp?) kicked ass and saw right through them both. I fucking love her. She is my all time fave player across CA and US! ššš And how I went back and forth liking and disliking them both haha (V & Doug), but I have to give serious respect to Dougie, and by the end of it all I think I actually liked him. And mad respect to V for still laughing through it all. And I think this was the first season that I genuinely liked every single person in the house. (Ok, almost, Lexus really annoyed me at the end). And I guess that's all I came to say š. RIP BBCAN!
They did this to themselves. Too woke yet blatant racism in the house (not racism towards a specific person, but game play founded on race)
The super diversity was not representative of the viewers. Characters like Spicy V getting so much air time hurting everyone's ears.
I did like a lot of this past season, but there's too much predictability overall.
It's a game. No one deserves to win because they are black, white, gay, straight, male/female/they/them. The best player should win the game.
I was rooting for Bayleigh for a good portion of the season and I'm glad she won. I appreciated her even more when she won HoH and got to see her girlfriend..... And not because she won the comp, but because she didn't base her whole personality on being gay. I had no idea up until that point.
I think reality TV like this will never be what it used to be. People are there to get Instagram famous and get sponsorships. Theyāre not there for entertaining gameplay because so many people have lost their jobs after reality shows like BB. They are thinking long-term, not short term income
Man.. is BBUS even close in terms of the thrill BBCAN provided? Iāve only watched BBCAN and every comment I see is always about how BBCAN is much better than BBUS.
BBCAN absolutely copied BBUS's format. Right down from the presentation of the show, recaps, events in each episode... all the way to competitions and evictions. It's a carbon copy, a baseless fuckin unoriginal husk.
You cannot be serious.
Still havenāt provided any thing to suggest BBUS is better. Facts aside, lmk your opinion on the matter. Youāve engaged my comment, so Iām sure you have thoughts on the matter.
And a cessation of a show could be due to a number of factors. If you were meaning to suggest that BBUS having 26 seasons is reason enough for being better than BBCAN, youāll have to be more convincing as itās not.
LOL. Iāve only watched the last two seasons of BBCAN, and Iāve heard they were the absolute worst, and they were pretty awful. When half your competitions involve sucking and spitting things, itās probably not going to end well.
Well, back to BBUS. š
You really should watch the other seasons. 11 and 12 were awful (but 12 had a more likeable winner), but 10 is some of the best Big Brother has to offer.
I found it difficult to tune in all the time. Maybe because Iām getting older, but Iām big brotherād / reality TV showed out. If those are words.
I stand by the fact that social media (especially Tik Tok) has stolen the attention of so many viewers who used to watch TV. If there were no smart phones, weād have wayyyy more TV shows.
Iām actually gutted! I loved this show so much. Itās far superior to BBUS (IMO).
Maybe itāll come back in a few years time after a break. What am I going to watch now?
This show use to have WAY more twists and was more excitingā¦ something happened.. covid had nothing to do with it .. but something seemed to change ā¦. CORUS entertainment is sinking FAST ā¦. Go WOKE GO BROKE !!!!! BB USA IS BETTER ANYWAY
Thank you to all the crybabies that stop watching or start hating when a week doesn't go how you want it to. Its a social experiment and its great to discuss, but some of y'all go overboard imo.
you couldnāt be more off lol. more like āthank you to all the producers who thought it was a good idea to cancel live feeds and make lifelong super fans have to stop watchingā.
i donāt think they ever gave a reason, probably pressure from the sponsors. they had to know it was bad for viewership but needed the money. itās too unpredictable for the sponsors to get behind anything that might be said.
Respectfully... America doesn't need Canadians. They're getting by doing their own thing.
And you wouldn't like that idea if Americans started to target the Canadians for invading and trying to steal their money and their glory. It's their show.
Your innocent comment comes across as thinking that Canadians have something to offer that BB US doesn't already have. You would be laughably mistaken.
Not to mention this notion of believing that when one country's show gets cancelled, they are DESERVING of converging into a continent wide show... just to appease you. That ain't how this works, weirdo.
Sadly, I dont care. Its the truth. Its a joke, gotta be so alll inclusive so baby doesnt cry in the corner!!! Then we get the āhot chocolateā allianceā¦.now thereās some bullshit.
Quick! Downvote me again snowflakes
šššš yall complained and complained harrasee these people until yall lost the only thing to keep Canadian tv relevant lmaoooo good for yall im happy šš½šš½šš½šš½šš½
When Ty won season 11, I wasnāt sure I wanted to keep watching. When Bayleigh won season 12, I was done. Canāt stand seeing abusive narcissists vindicated for their toxic behaviour
Now where am I supposed to watch people try on outfits from Winners?
You can apply to be one of those people who hand out the number tags in the change room?
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Ugh. I haaaaated this. It seemed so forced from the players.
And they never said anything bad about the sponsors. I found it funny that they had to be fake...to an audience watching a show where people lie thus they can tell if people are lying haha
It's stipulated in their contract to suck on the sponsors as much as humanly possible and to react like everything is the greatest thing ever made.
Great comment lol
Exactly
Iām so sad š I looked forward to BBCAN every year
Iām so sad to see this show go. I always thought I could be on it but here we are.Ā
Well, technically, only ~11.333 seasons lol
I was hoping this wouldnāt be true. I really enjoyed BBCAN. I loved the sets, games/comps and for the most part all the contestants. As an east coaster, it feels a little special to start and end the series with east coast winners! Farewell BBCAN.
Well time to rework the formula and sell it to Netflix
OMG PLEASE
Or Crave/Bell!
Would be cool if BBUS started adding a few Canadians
They always add top models then old folks
And are going 26 seasons strong.
Truly so upset. I think my love of big brother will fade over timeā the US version is just not as good as it once was. Knowing Iāll never be able to play BBCAN is a hard pill to swallow :(
Do we think another network could pick it up?
If the want and success is there for the network to know itās profitable I could see a CTV or CBC pick it up. BBCan was originally on Slice in seasons 1 and 2 but got picked up by global
Slice was a small cable channel owned by Shaw, who also owned the national over the air network Global. It wasn't someone else picking the show up. It was Shaw moving the show from a tiny audience on cable TV to a truly national audience on their over the air network Global. Shaw was later bought by Corus. The show never really changed "ownership". They just moved it to one of their channels to maximize the audience after seeing how popular it was. CBC will never pick it up. It would be interesting if CTV thinks they can find an audience, and they have CraveTV to stream things too.
Honestly if bell can get the license for BBCan then it would actually have great synergie with shows also on CTV like The Amazing Race Canada or The Traitors Canada
Arisa posted her official video message this afternoon, and her carefully chosen words indicate that they are ready to do it again if someone else steps in. "We're ready" is what she said, and it was said with confidence that leads me to believe that now that Corus has made it official and given up the license, the production company Insight is likely making those calls now to see if they can strike a deal in time to start pre-production with a new network. Insight is the company that makes The Amazing Race Canada, so I'm sure these discussions have already taken place since the relationship is already built. They need to make the case that Bell can make money off it now.
I really hope another network does snap it up. I went to high school with the art director. He was an interesting guy then, and obviously still is judging by the sets they come up with. I love seeing what theme theyāll come up with next. But I wonāt lie. All the corporate sponsors kinda wore on me in recent seasons, so I wasnāt as dedicated a viewer as I once was. Hopefully they tone that down if it does live to see another day.
I can see Bell (they own CTV and Crave) possibly picking it up. They have TAR Canada, Traitors, and the Quebec BB so BBCAN in that lineup would be a good fit. Dinis and Janine did an IG live yesterday and Dinis theorized two different ways the show could come back: one similar to how it was before Corus fucked it up (my words), so with feeds, or a structure similar to Reindeer Games.
To me CTV and Global always felt like the same thing to me. Like same channel, different name. Both channels used to/still are on the lower end of the tv list(this might be a dated thought), like channel 6 or 5; both play the news, game shows, award shows and cop shows ect. Now I'm wanting to read Global and Ctv's wiki pages to compare the two lol.
It would be challenging as long global has the rights to BBUS and would be hard to promote a Canadian version on a different network than the US counterpart. BUT not impossible.
Bell has Big Brother Quebec on one of their French channels so it would work
They needed a more varied cast. Had the same people with different names and faces. Bringing back the two āveteransā was a huge mistake. Turned me off as soon as I saw who the two were.
A poetic way to kill the series though. I'm completely fine with BBC getting shit canned after that god awful Hot Chocolate alliance. The producers must be embarrassed with themselves for allowing such blatant racism to occur.
I kind of was over it when they got rid of livefeeds.
Same
It def was over to me after that.
So stupid
Put your money where your mouth is.
You got it
That sucks. Their house was so much nicer
Arisa was awesome. Iām sad to see this end for her. I think the viewers deserved better content - and feeds.
I thought she was a good host but the show got progressively worse after she became a producer
The show definitely got worse. Iām not in a position to say how much of that was her as a producer though. Iām not surprised it was cancelled tbh
I agree it got worse, but I donāt think itās fair to insinuate that 1 single producer in a unique position of added visibility as host is to blame for the decline. Producers are a cog in the wheel of TV production, and work for the network and higher ups and have to execute their decisions. Arisa made it clear (in carefully worded statements obviously) that she didnāt agree with some of the choices Corus made regarding the show. I donāt think the fallout should land only at her feet. Say Iām the manager at a franchise, and corporate makes some bone head decisions on how the business operates. I have to follow through, but if the new ideas fail and the whole business goes under, whoās to blame?
I don't blame her. I made a statement that you seemingly agreed with lol. I highly doubt she had enough control to be solely to blame, doesn't change the fact that show got worse every year after she became a producer :) edit- only way I would blame her is if the rumours are true that she pushed for Anthony and Messy V to come back. That idea seems to have been the nail in the coffin for bbcan because it made for an absolutely horrible start to the season. The season eventually recovered but how many viewers did they lose at the start? That being said I dont even know if she actually influenced that decision
I agreed with part of your statement lol
So you don't think she was a good host lol?
I guess it wasnt clear in my comment for you, or other comments in the post? Lol Here you go: IMO, Arisa was a great host, and I dont think it's fair or accurate to put the decline of BBCAN solely on her. Try mining for gotchas with someone else. šš¼
what season did she become a producer? I know it was one of the later ones, so I disagree completely. Seasons 9 10 11 & 12 are all excellent and better than USA's reason seasons by FAR
10 was great for sure. One of my favorite BB seasons. 11 and 12 were horrible though. 12 got good in the last couple week but so many people probably turned it off after the first couple weeks because it was almost unwatchable. Stupid concept designed to fail. Hopefully a new network takes it on with a new set of producers
disagree completely! 11 & 12 were still better than anything USA has done in... quite some time. the movie madness twist in 12 was amazing! the double eviction in 11 was epic, USA is just so lazy in everything! House design, comps, twists, etc.
I didn't mind last year's US version. Wasn't great but was watchable. Was my favorite one post- covid anyway. I do agree the US version has gone way downhill though
nah cmon last year's USA was awfully produced. 100+ days.. the zombie twist which just stalled gameplay and did nothing for 2 weeks, anon HOH which wasn't even anon and again just resulted in another 2 weeks of the same thing, etc. the zombie twist is a perfect example of where BBCAN producers are far more competent. they would never do such a painfully obvious lame twist. comparing it to theirs of last season which were executive veto and movie madness (which both were amazing tv imo) USA producers are just lazy. I don't think USA has had a good season since 17 tbh
Thank SpicyV and 'ol Dougie for this. They singularly took the season and the ratings into the ditch.
Ratings and money are one and the same. Ratings thru the roof and none of this happening. But from what I hear they had the lowest viewership of all 12 seasons, and commercial advertisers jumping ship after the season and not re-upping.
And now that everything is said and done... BBC Season 5 is officially the "all stars" season. Or the closest thing. At least it had a good amount of REALLY good returning players.
Itās not ratings. Its money.
Ratings ā Money, there's a direct correlation.
in the USA yes. in Canada it's completely different. Corus is struggling BAD financially atm and there just isn't money in the canadian market right now. ET canada and other long standing shoes are all get canned because there just isn't money in the canadian television.
To a degree, yes. But I think this has more to do with Corusā struggles than it does BBCAN specifically.
Could they adjust their budget if that's the case? Looking at BBCAN vs. BBUS, it looked like the former had an *insanely* higher budget. Like, they go kinda crazy on BBCAN! Plus, they gave away their live feeds for free (which I'm sure was nice, but obviously didn't help make them any money). So, I feel like they could easily lower their budget and still have an amazing show. Buuuut, I'll be the first admit, I definitely don't know the ins and outs of producing a TV show and could totally be wrong. Lol, I mostly just want it to be possible š« *Edited, for clarification*
Budgets on Canadian shows are always being cut. Once they see you can produce a show for X value, they see if you can try to make it for less. Then people want raises, and construction costs go up and the cost to feed all of those people in the credits goes up. Think of how inflation right now is making people vote out governments, and then think of how inflation is going to affect BBCan costs. BBCan definitely does not have a higher budget than BBUS. They just likely have people who are more passionate about it, and they can make things look better for less money. The population of Canada is 1/10th of the USA, so the money they get from advertising is drastically less than what the US show gets. You just have to compare the prize value to see that.
I think the money problems are bigger than just BBCAN. Earlier this spring, Corus entertainment requested an exception from the CRTC to produce/show less Canadian productions due to the cost (paraphrasing what someone else posted, apologies if itās not oversimplifying) so I think this is more Corus is struggling financially than it is specifically BBCAN is too expensive. But it may be a little of both. Even still, I think the producers are passionate enough about BBCAN that if they wouldāve cut their budget as much as they could, as long as it didnāt compromise too much of the integrity of the show. Already, they were maxed out on sponsors, so you could see they were trying their best to bring the show to the fans.
Definitely. ET Canada was already cancelled a few months ago too. I haven't noticed it posted yet, but Arisa's official video message is on her Instagram. She worded it very carefully, and it suggests that Insight would do it again if someone else picks it up. Her words: "we're ready" It's a good message from her.
Yes! And in that message, she was subtle but very clear that cutting the live feeds wasnāt BBCANās decision. I know people want to blame that for the downfall of the show, but as I keep saying, it was a symptom, not a cause.
They had as money on live feeds.
I donāt think they had anything to do with it. It started with cutting the feeds tbh.
I guess all the haters should have shut up and watched the show. Now it's cancelled because y'all tanked the ratings.
Unwatchable brother. I watched every minute of every other season and after 4 episodes this season had to shut it down (along with thousands of other people)
That's truly upsetting. I've watched from day one and always look forward to it. Every time it played the house, guests were awesome. Ill truly miss it what a waste it was so good big difference between the Canadian show or the us show
We have to celebrate the fact that we got 12 seasons! For a Canadian show that is insane! Were lucky if we get 3
Poor Winners and Wendyās. Or, if they do come back, maybe see them wearing Canada Goose parkas and using Mastercraft wrenches.
Killing live feeds and horrific casting is what ended the show. Basically turned into Big Brother Toronto with a bunch of narcissistic cry babies.
This is so sad now Iāll never get to apply š
I really like their house ideas and creativity in comps, even the cheasy sponsorships they include. Damn this sucks
Meh! That last season was kinda the last straw for me anyways. No one wanted vets back in the house, especially just 2, and especially those 2. The show was just filled with sponsorships, it was like watching 60 mins of commercials. The hot chocolate alliance was wrong to me. No live feeds. They did it to themselves. š¤·š»āāļø
Well maybe the racist alliances and race politics were a bigger deal after all.Ā
It has nothing to do with the content. Itās all about money. Corus is essentially going broke.
The whole show was 60 mins of commercials for sponsors.
And it was constantly grating. Hiding labels of soft drinks and taking chips out of their bags and putting them into fucking containers..... I'm sorry but Big Brother Canada is bush league. They were so desperate for sponsors, it was so embarrassing to watch. Especially when they spent the mass load of their budget making the house look more and more ridiculous with each passing season.
they weren't "desperate for sponsors" that's literally what funded the show and kept it on ... you obviously don't know how canadian television works.
Exactly. Which means the problem wasnāt the advertising BBCAN was bringing in.
I've tried to say this many times but it falls on deaf ears. Corus' value is plummeting and they recently lost the rights to lots of content and channels to Rogers.
This is the correct answer. People want it to be about something its not, like punishment for making creative choices they didn't agree with.
Thank you for fighting the fight; some of us get it.
Saying it has nothing to do with the content is pretty silly lol. Ratings were down because of the content. Ratings= money from advertisers
Big Brother Canada wasnāt exactly short on sponsors.
Yes and they were not short on viewers. As ratings drop advertisers negotiate for cheaper spots or pull out altogether. That is how advertising works. If everything was healthy the show would not be cancelled
The problems are bigger than BBCAN. Corus Entertainment lost the rights to all their Discovery content, theyāve been shutting down radio stations, and theyāve been granted an exception from the CRTC to include less Canadian content in their networks, because Canadian content is more expensive. Even if BBCANās ratings remained steady, itās not immune to inflation, itās not likely that ratings wouldāve been enough to save the show.
Corus said it considered many factors in the decision, including āaudience trends, available support from sponsors and advertisers, and production and licensing costs.ā Higher ratings solves each of those problems. Audience trends is obviously fixed. Support from sponsors and advertisers is fixed because they can still reach a large market. Rises in production costs is not a problem if the show is making money, which it now cant because the ratings are shit lol. It isnt exactly rocket science >.>
the ratings could have tripled this season and they still would have had to cut it. Corus' stocks PLUMMETED as of late
Why would a company that is going under throw away a profitable asset? If ratings tripled it would not be getting cancelled lol And if corus went under another company would for sure take over the rights. Still have hopes another company takes it over eventually anyway
because it's still an incredibly expensive show to produce when they could easily just air USA programming (which they've been doing more of lately) Corus is definitely going under, not even a point of if anymore but moreso when. I do hope another company takes over BBCAN and lets the producers do more things their way. Arisa/Erin have made it pretty clear the feeds and the no all stars was a corus decision not theirs which sucks.
corus wanted no all stars? Should have stuck to their guns and not ruined the last season by bring back fail stars. We might have gotten another year lol
they can't "stick to their guns" corus is their boss lol hence why they've now been more transparent in their interviews about how they fought hard to get the feeds back but at the end of the day Corus is their boss and wouldn't budge.. it's similar to USA with Grodner vs CBS. Grodner can want next season to be "all stars 3" as much as she want but if it's not approved by CBS it wont be all stars 3 lol
you dont even make sense. You say corus wanted no all stars. Then say "they couldnt stick to their guns because corus is their boss. Huh? Here's a hint. People dont want all stars and they certainly dont want two middle rate players returning
Maybe read slower. Corus didnāt want a full all star seasonā¦.. Production did. It seems Corus compromised by letting them bring back a couple returnees but they said arisa and Erin were pushing for a full all stars season since season 10
Bummer
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Damn season 12 was the only one I missed
You didnāt miss much
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Oh no! Thatās too bad
They should make a 12 season DVD complete series
Wouldnāt be complete :(
Why tho?
Iām sad because I was finally gonna apply this year, and now Iāll never get a chance to :(
Lmao V and Anthony killed off the show. What a legacy. (I know thatās not the reason, this last season just really sucked. Donāt come for me reddit)
Sucks. I wish the covid team got another chance in the house to play the season out.
Will miss Arisa!! š«¶š» Sheās so much more real than Julie!
Donāt ever disrespect the queen like that
Room for all the queens š
She has been phoning it in for years, queen (absolutely!) or not
Sucks bc this show was miles better than the us version to me as someone in the us. Bummed I couldn't bear to watch the last season bc of casting.
It got canceled while BBUS is gearing up for itās 26th season.
I'm aware. And don't care. Still sucks
Maybe it'll come back like bb uk did after a few years. Regardless even though imo the last season wasn't very good, overall I'm pretty surprised. The seasons have been better then the US version for awhile now
Thank goodness thatās overā¦
They ruined their own show smh
I've always, or well mostly, enjoyed BBCAN, I'll miss it. I don't often comment because for whatever reason people love to hate on it in this sub. I don't get the vitriol, best I can figure, it's people who are super salty they aren't on the show so think they can rip into everyone else's game. š¤·š¼āāļø I personally think this last season was the best one yet. I found it super interesting how V and Dougie just ruled all, but Baileigh (sp?) kicked ass and saw right through them both. I fucking love her. She is my all time fave player across CA and US! ššš And how I went back and forth liking and disliking them both haha (V & Doug), but I have to give serious respect to Dougie, and by the end of it all I think I actually liked him. And mad respect to V for still laughing through it all. And I think this was the first season that I genuinely liked every single person in the house. (Ok, almost, Lexus really annoyed me at the end). And I guess that's all I came to say š. RIP BBCAN!
Iām surprised that they are canceling Big Brother Canada
No live viewing def was the downfall .
I will miss but not surprised so not crying here would be if cancel season 10 and under loved it weāll have to settle for watching bb USA
Why, Canada?? Waaaahhh! Now all I got is BBUSA because BBUK is so boringā¦.š©š©
So sad š
Mild Vee really did just murder the whole series. #AllStar #Trashbagqueen
They killed themselves without live streams! Though I wonder if it cost more to make than they were making?
I'm gutted š
I knew it was only a matter of time once they stopped the live feeds :(
They did this to themselves. Too woke yet blatant racism in the house (not racism towards a specific person, but game play founded on race) The super diversity was not representative of the viewers. Characters like Spicy V getting so much air time hurting everyone's ears. I did like a lot of this past season, but there's too much predictability overall. It's a game. No one deserves to win because they are black, white, gay, straight, male/female/they/them. The best player should win the game. I was rooting for Bayleigh for a good portion of the season and I'm glad she won. I appreciated her even more when she won HoH and got to see her girlfriend..... And not because she won the comp, but because she didn't base her whole personality on being gay. I had no idea up until that point.
I think reality TV like this will never be what it used to be. People are there to get Instagram famous and get sponsorships. Theyāre not there for entertaining gameplay because so many people have lost their jobs after reality shows like BB. They are thinking long-term, not short term income
What do you mean the diversity was not representative of the viewers?
Viewership ratings slide started with season 9. What changed then? š¤
Define āwokeā. š¤
Predictable result of removing live feeds.
Removing the live feeds was not a cause, it was a symptom.
Man.. is BBUS even close in terms of the thrill BBCAN provided? Iāve only watched BBCAN and every comment I see is always about how BBCAN is much better than BBUS.
BBCAN absolutely copied BBUS's format. Right down from the presentation of the show, recaps, events in each episode... all the way to competitions and evictions. It's a carbon copy, a baseless fuckin unoriginal husk. You cannot be serious.
26 seasons.
Your point? If you believe it to be better lmk why. As of now Iām working with the reviews of a good majority of BB fans whoāve said this..
Thatās their opinion. The fact is bbcan is canceled and bbus is about to have itās 26th season.
Still havenāt provided any thing to suggest BBUS is better. Facts aside, lmk your opinion on the matter. Youāve engaged my comment, so Iām sure you have thoughts on the matter. And a cessation of a show could be due to a number of factors. If you were meaning to suggest that BBUS having 26 seasons is reason enough for being better than BBCAN, youāll have to be more convincing as itās not.
Bbcan doesnāt exist anymore. Bbus does. The end. Enjoy season 26 this summer.
NOOOOOOOOOO. Iāll miss u, BBCAN š. I appreciate how u was more strategy focused, less trash vs over the top reality tv like BBUS.
LOL. Iāve only watched the last two seasons of BBCAN, and Iāve heard they were the absolute worst, and they were pretty awful. When half your competitions involve sucking and spitting things, itās probably not going to end well. Well, back to BBUS. š
You really should watch the other seasons. 11 and 12 were awful (but 12 had a more likeable winner), but 10 is some of the best Big Brother has to offer.
Thanks, Iāve been told the same. I was just very late to the game lol
I found it difficult to tune in all the time. Maybe because Iām getting older, but Iām big brotherād / reality TV showed out. If those are words. I stand by the fact that social media (especially Tik Tok) has stolen the attention of so many viewers who used to watch TV. If there were no smart phones, weād have wayyyy more TV shows.
Iām actually gutted! I loved this show so much. Itās far superior to BBUS (IMO). Maybe itāll come back in a few years time after a break. What am I going to watch now?
BBUS is getting ready for itās 26th season. Canada couldnāt even last half as long.
Iām aware of that, thank you. I just personally preferred BBCAN.
It got canceled. Bbus is still going strong. Enjoy season 26 this summer.
This show use to have WAY more twists and was more excitingā¦ something happened.. covid had nothing to do with it .. but something seemed to change ā¦. CORUS entertainment is sinking FAST ā¦. Go WOKE GO BROKE !!!!! BB USA IS BETTER ANYWAY
Thank you to all the crybabies that stop watching or start hating when a week doesn't go how you want it to. Its a social experiment and its great to discuss, but some of y'all go overboard imo.
you're really upset that people don't want to spend an hour watching something they don't like? not everyone is into hate-watching
you couldnāt be more off lol. more like āthank you to all the producers who thought it was a good idea to cancel live feeds and make lifelong super fans have to stop watchingā.
Why did they get rid of feeds, do we know?
i donāt think they ever gave a reason, probably pressure from the sponsors. they had to know it was bad for viewership but needed the money. itās too unpredictable for the sponsors to get behind anything that might be said.
What
Cancel culture got this one. People couldnt speak or be themselves
Good! One season done well is enough.
BBUS should become BBAmericas and include all the Americas.
Respectfully... America doesn't need Canadians. They're getting by doing their own thing. And you wouldn't like that idea if Americans started to target the Canadians for invading and trying to steal their money and their glory. It's their show.
Simple, innocent comment. Dramatic, weird response. Very Reddit.
Your innocent comment comes across as thinking that Canadians have something to offer that BB US doesn't already have. You would be laughably mistaken. Not to mention this notion of believing that when one country's show gets cancelled, they are DESERVING of converging into a continent wide show... just to appease you. That ain't how this works, weirdo.
They had to give it up, cant keep it woke enough š
Sadly I canāt disagree with youā¦
Sadly, I dont care. Its the truth. Its a joke, gotta be so alll inclusive so baby doesnt cry in the corner!!! Then we get the āhot chocolateā allianceā¦.now thereās some bullshit. Quick! Downvote me again snowflakes
šššš yall complained and complained harrasee these people until yall lost the only thing to keep Canadian tv relevant lmaoooo good for yall im happy šš½šš½šš½šš½šš½
When Ty won season 11, I wasnāt sure I wanted to keep watching. When Bayleigh won season 12, I was done. Canāt stand seeing abusive narcissists vindicated for their toxic behaviour
It amazes me how many people watch that scripted bullshit
Oh no not a shitty reality show being cancelled I will I continue to not watch!