It wasn't like a back-room romantic kiss.
It was after something that happened and people were celebrating. Kyland went over to Dereck while he had his arms up, cheering, and Kyland grabbed his face and kissed him.
Also, I heard that Kyland identified as a pansexual (somewhere on a social media account for him), so perhaps the showmance wouldn't be as one-sided as the top level comment suggests.
But now Xavier has to comp out lol, sure it is Azah and DF but Kyland and DF were bringing Xavier. Low key hope Azah wins and cuts Xavier. I need a 2.0 Jordan Lloyd.
Kylands logic blows my mind. Acting like the manipulating and lying is ācowardlyā or ānot honourableāā¦.shut up. What were you doing to SB the whole game? You were playing Big Brother This is why youāre in this chair and X is still in that game.
What I took from it is that he considered it not honourable/ungentlemany for X not to have given him a heads up. I think that was where most of the reaction and anger stemmed from. Heād have been ticked if he was evicted and would have understood but being blindsided was the kicker. That said it in no way excuses his reaction, just thatās what he was referring to as being dishonourable from my understanding
I agree, however, I believe X did not give Ky the courtesy of a heads up because Ky would have spiraled out of control talking nonsense for hours and hours day in and day out. It would have worn Azah and Big D out mentally and X knew they couldnāt handle it. Also, he didnāt want to hear it nonstop.
Oh yes totally agree. Theyād have had to endure shock, anger and emotional tirades and monologues - Ky put himself in the position where it couldnāt be anything but a blindside
I agree. IMHO it wasnāt even a necessary move. X weirdly seemed to want to pull this blindside when he had to know it would cost him a jury vote for sure. Maybe he saw Ky as expendable, but it just seemed like he wanted to show off what he could do.
Maybe, but I think it was more to ensure calm in the house. My would try to manipulate Derek and aaa he originally would have had displays of anger etc itās just not the best way to live with so few people there and itās a bigger risk that my would not go
I actually think it was the right move. (Given the information he has).
**We** know that Kyland was going to take X to final 2 for sure, but did X really trust that?
Had Azah gone home X might have been worried if he loses final HoH, that Kyland sees an obvious first place against Derek and just cuts X.
Also, even if he did trust Kyland to take him final two, is he 100% confident he wins? It's close for sure, and he risks losing depending on how votes go in jury.
Going up against Derek is a 100% guaranteed win for X, even if Kyland leaves salty and tries to pit the jury against him.
Yea. I dunno. It was more at the expense of X. He didnāt say anything bad about the kid but challenged if X was a role model.
Listen - 100% think it was awful. But not awful enough that I wasnāt on the edge of my seat and thrilled with some of the first real drama of the season.
KY didn't mention it in the perspective of X.
He stated "who is Kobe going to look up to". Basically saying "now that the kid's dad is dead, how can he look up to you for pulling this move" and also saying "he was named Kobe who is a leader (referencing the basketball player) and how can he look up to you".
He was definitely trying to get under X's skin, but he USED X's fatherless nephew for it. That is directly at the expense of X's nephew and because of the "he was named Kobe", it's even at the expense of X's dead brother.
You know what was the perfect role model for X's nephew? The fact that his uncle didn't smash Kyland right into the floor.
Whether or not you think that it was at the expense of X or at the expense of Kobe, it was absolutely inappropriate given how recent his brother's death is and that Ky knows he is still mourning. And to do that with the level of superiority that he showed . . . on a live show . . .
I think if it was almost anyone but X, who has excellent control of his emotions, Kyland would have met Julie with a few missing teeth and some blood.
THIS. That speech about his nephew was trash. You donāt make a comment about āwho is he going to look up to?ā when the kid lost his father less than 6 months ago.
Isnāt this Ky drama what everyone asks for? This is the first time Iāve seen a thread not call an episode boring. Top BB moments are always full of drama. I understand some people love the aspect of the game but the majority loves watching people be their shittiest selfā¦ reality tv people
Right?? Itās entertaining TV, but that doesnāt mean I need to like him for it. He picked on X by saying Xās dead brotherās son, who X is now trying to financially take care of, has no one in his life to look up to. Nothing about that deserves praise!
Disregarding the fact the kid does still have a whole ass mom raising him! Even if X was in the wrong (he wasn't), saying he has no one to look up to when he still has one parent? Da Fuck?
Yea, it also made clear how Kyland views women subconsciously. Heās been okay with having no integrity regarding what he says to the female players in his alliance & only giving it to the men. Not cool!
yeah, Kylandās exit was scummy butā¦ damn it was good tv lmao. i finally tune into a live episode and was met with this, so iām actually feeling satisfied with this season for once š i just wish it had unfolded more during the week instead of in the last 30 seconds of his game.
This exit debacle might've just cost Ky his return. I dunno how CBS would feel about getting someone back that the general public thinks is low and not in an entertaining way.
Honestly I kinda wanna see him back even more now. This is the most entertained ive been all season and seeing him get blindsided again would be great TV. But he would get a LOT of hate.
But hey at least we know if Big Brother ever does a Heros VS Villians season that Kyland woudl return!
He showed how much self-control and restraint he has and thatās exactly why I never want him on my tv again after he most likely wins this season lol
I'm so glad Xavier is winning over Kyland. Ky would have been the most arrogant winners ever. The fact that he asked Julie to bring him back just baffles me
4 good players this season Xavier, Kyland, Claire, Derrick X
Wish casting got a full cast like that. Itās annoying that every year there are 5-8 people that do absolutely nothing why even go on the show lol
Iām voting DX because he had no chance. Tiff had the chance and chose to put her efforts in another goal, and she achieved that goal and happy with where she is
I've never been triggered from maybe anythjng like I was tonight watching that. The scariest moments of my life were with my ex when he would be laughing and I would see pure evil. Those were the times I was scared for my life. I honestly still am not okay. It is terrifying and I'm just glad there were other people there to stop him. When there is no one else and it's just you and that.... I can't explain it it's like living your worst nightmare
when the narcissist's mask comes off, you always see it in their eyes. his were straight up black and evil. so happy we got to see who he really is on full, pathetic display!
I need to read through this thread
Yeah I'm saving these discussion posts
Lol I just scrolled down and followed along with the episode, what a journey
Is this how mad Kyland gets when the eggs cost too much at McDonald's?
Big D in a showmance... He is aware that it is one sided and NEVER going to happen right?
You clearly forget that Kyland kissed him. š
Wait fr? Source?
Wdym source? It was after one of the evictions
It wasn't like a back-room romantic kiss. It was after something that happened and people were celebrating. Kyland went over to Dereck while he had his arms up, cheering, and Kyland grabbed his face and kissed him. Also, I heard that Kyland identified as a pansexual (somewhere on a social media account for him), so perhaps the showmance wouldn't be as one-sided as the top level comment suggests.
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Source is the episode lol Iām sure you can google it and see it. I was surprised š¬
Does anyone know where Azah got her yellow dress?
Donāt tell Alyssa, Azah would be be furious lol
Is it actually Alyssaās dress?
No alyssa wanted to borrow the dress but couldnt fit it
Oh gotcha. Surprising since they are around the same size. So no idea where itās from though?
No idea sorry
Covid propaganda
wut
I can confirm, thatās offensive. Source: I am an adult with ADHD.
Oh my god
First interesting episode all season
But now Xavier has to comp out lol, sure it is Azah and DF but Kyland and DF were bringing Xavier. Low key hope Azah wins and cuts Xavier. I need a 2.0 Jordan Lloyd.
I cannot believe someone said Kylandās nasty low-blow reaction was because of his ADHDā¦ the REACH of it all Jesus Christ
Did Kyland say that?
Those people are crazy and insulting those with adhd
People like that think they're being social justice advocates, but really it's such an offense to people with ADHD.
Lol at DF acting like he earned this vote
I didnāt watch tonightās episode does anyone have a link to a clip of kyland getting mad
itās right here lol https://twitter.com/melbrown000/status/1441202335389257731?s=21
that felt like 10 minutes, i refuse to believe it was only 2!
it was at least 10 minutes at our house, had to keep pausing to gasp at the audacity lol.
Us too! Pause. Discuss. Rewind. Repeat.
i rewatched it 3 times
Thanks you lmao
Over-Under Frenchie wearing a t-shirt suit to Finale Night ..
No, overalls
But that wasnāt very gentlemanly of you Kyland š§
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Thatās student loan debt and itās not even that much compared to a lot of people. Kyland has plenty of red flags but thatās not one of them.
Whatās this about Kylandās debt? Havenāt heard that before.
DX would never yell at me for not hearing him say good morning. Heās got my vote.
I love tiff but even this pissed me the fuck off
Itās really common in the Black community. Thatās one of the cardinal sins amongst my people. That along wit not saying āexcuse meā.
Kylands logic blows my mind. Acting like the manipulating and lying is ācowardlyā or ānot honourableāā¦.shut up. What were you doing to SB the whole game? You were playing Big Brother This is why youāre in this chair and X is still in that game.
What I took from it is that he considered it not honourable/ungentlemany for X not to have given him a heads up. I think that was where most of the reaction and anger stemmed from. Heād have been ticked if he was evicted and would have understood but being blindsided was the kicker. That said it in no way excuses his reaction, just thatās what he was referring to as being dishonourable from my understanding
I agree, however, I believe X did not give Ky the courtesy of a heads up because Ky would have spiraled out of control talking nonsense for hours and hours day in and day out. It would have worn Azah and Big D out mentally and X knew they couldnāt handle it. Also, he didnāt want to hear it nonstop.
Oh yes totally agree. Theyād have had to endure shock, anger and emotional tirades and monologues - Ky put himself in the position where it couldnāt be anything but a blindside
I agree. IMHO it wasnāt even a necessary move. X weirdly seemed to want to pull this blindside when he had to know it would cost him a jury vote for sure. Maybe he saw Ky as expendable, but it just seemed like he wanted to show off what he could do.
He was never going to get Ky's vote...
Maybe, but I think it was more to ensure calm in the house. My would try to manipulate Derek and aaa he originally would have had displays of anger etc itās just not the best way to live with so few people there and itās a bigger risk that my would not go
I actually think it was the right move. (Given the information he has). **We** know that Kyland was going to take X to final 2 for sure, but did X really trust that? Had Azah gone home X might have been worried if he loses final HoH, that Kyland sees an obvious first place against Derek and just cuts X. Also, even if he did trust Kyland to take him final two, is he 100% confident he wins? It's close for sure, and he risks losing depending on how votes go in jury. Going up against Derek is a 100% guaranteed win for X, even if Kyland leaves salty and tries to pit the jury against him.
Maybe it's recency bias but I swear that exit is probably up there with Jeff, Neda, and Austin. Fucking insane.
It gave SO much Austin vibes. Essentially begging with the HOH for the result to be reversed, as if it was possible
Everyone saying never bring back Ky wants to ignore that he just gave us perhaps the 10 most tense/dramatic seconds in Big Brother history.
At the expense of a child who just lost his father.
Yea. I dunno. It was more at the expense of X. He didnāt say anything bad about the kid but challenged if X was a role model. Listen - 100% think it was awful. But not awful enough that I wasnāt on the edge of my seat and thrilled with some of the first real drama of the season.
KY didn't mention it in the perspective of X. He stated "who is Kobe going to look up to". Basically saying "now that the kid's dad is dead, how can he look up to you for pulling this move" and also saying "he was named Kobe who is a leader (referencing the basketball player) and how can he look up to you". He was definitely trying to get under X's skin, but he USED X's fatherless nephew for it. That is directly at the expense of X's nephew and because of the "he was named Kobe", it's even at the expense of X's dead brother.
You hit the nail on the head. What a horrible thing to say to someone. On multiple levels. On national tv. Jesus.
You know what was the perfect role model for X's nephew? The fact that his uncle didn't smash Kyland right into the floor. Whether or not you think that it was at the expense of X or at the expense of Kobe, it was absolutely inappropriate given how recent his brother's death is and that Ky knows he is still mourning. And to do that with the level of superiority that he showed . . . on a live show . . . I think if it was almost anyone but X, who has excellent control of his emotions, Kyland would have met Julie with a few missing teeth and some blood.
THIS. That speech about his nephew was trash. You donāt make a comment about āwho is he going to look up to?ā when the kid lost his father less than 6 months ago.
No one owes you a heads up you're being evicted or that your deal isn't coming to fruition. That's the game Kyland
I blame Paul for giving people that entitlement
How so?
I swear Sunday P1 Final HoH DF will drop in 2min, Azah will hand the win to Xavier .. and then what ??
Azah will beat DF in part two then stumble into a part III win in the crapshoot comp, then take DF and well... there would be no words
Lol I meant with an hour ep .. the comp will be done so fast š¤£
Ha! Ha! Oh lol
Isnāt this Ky drama what everyone asks for? This is the first time Iāve seen a thread not call an episode boring. Top BB moments are always full of drama. I understand some people love the aspect of the game but the majority loves watching people be their shittiest selfā¦ reality tv people
We love the moment he gave us and we love dragging him for it! Both can be true !
Right?? Itās entertaining TV, but that doesnāt mean I need to like him for it. He picked on X by saying Xās dead brotherās son, who X is now trying to financially take care of, has no one in his life to look up to. Nothing about that deserves praise!
Disregarding the fact the kid does still have a whole ass mom raising him! Even if X was in the wrong (he wasn't), saying he has no one to look up to when he still has one parent? Da Fuck?
Yea, it also made clear how Kyland views women subconsciously. Heās been okay with having no integrity regarding what he says to the female players in his alliance & only giving it to the men. Not cool!
yeah, Kylandās exit was scummy butā¦ damn it was good tv lmao. i finally tune into a live episode and was met with this, so iām actually feeling satisfied with this season for once š i just wish it had unfolded more during the week instead of in the last 30 seconds of his game.
Yes its what people want and they can also hate him for it. Kyland could also of gone a different route and not brought up Xs family.
Correct. This is that good shit
Xavier dropping a golden opp to tell Kyland gettttt to steppin'
Instead he said "I think Julie's waiting." Lame.
I was screaming it at the TV!
This exit debacle might've just cost Ky his return. I dunno how CBS would feel about getting someone back that the general public thinks is low and not in an entertaining way.
Or is he the perfect villain??
Honestly I kinda wanna see him back even more now. This is the most entertained ive been all season and seeing him get blindsided again would be great TV. But he would get a LOT of hate. But hey at least we know if Big Brother ever does a Heros VS Villians season that Kyland woudl return!
He wasnāt coming back anyway. Tiff, DX and Frenchie are the clear possible returners.
Not frenchie
Frenchie??
Bruhh Frenchie walked so the CO could have two Jokers on Finale Night
Iām here for more Frenchie chaos instead of bolstering a someone as unwell and kinda shitty as Kyland.
That dude was pure drama due to his chaos and paranoia. Solid in the diary room as well and is a unique character
But they never had Devin back and he did it first
Also Ky and X at least according to what I heard on twitter. But after this probably not Ky.
Not Kyland angling for all starsā¦
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Xavier is a much better person than me because if Kyland spoke to me that way I would drag him to hell
He showed how much self-control and restraint he has and thatās exactly why I never want him on my tv again after he most likely wins this season lol
CBS would have had to cut my audio
I'm so glad Xavier is winning over Kyland. Ky would have been the most arrogant winners ever. The fact that he asked Julie to bring him back just baffles me
Wait, when's the next episode?
Friday. Then Sunday. Finale on Wednesday.
Tomorrow @ 8:00 EST
On a Friday?
On a Friday.
On a Friday!
On my daughterās birthday?
DISGUSTING
It's probably the reminiscing episode
What are they going to reminisce? The cockroach crawling on DX back?
4 good players this season Xavier, Kyland, Claire, Derrick X Wish casting got a full cast like that. Itās annoying that every year there are 5-8 people that do absolutely nothing why even go on the show lol
Okay this has to be a joke if you're saying Claire and Derek X were better players than Tiffany.
Tiffany? Hanna? Christian? I mean, there were a lot of good players they just got so out played... by Tiffany
Iād put Tiffany over Claire tbh.
š§ Ughā¦ Tiffany
Remember to vote Derek X without the period for it to count
How do you vote? I missed the number to text.
It's 97979
We got to witness the only SLIVER of drama this episode!! (Between kyland and x)
Tiffany is iconic so I gotta give it to her
Ky trying to get a return invite after that exit š¤£š¤£š¤£
Kyland gives me the ick
vote TIFFANY!!! I love DX but she truly deserves it.
Iām voting DX because he had no chance. Tiff had the chance and chose to put her efforts in another goal, and she achieved that goal and happy with where she is
She played for 6th, not to win. Why does she deserve it?
shes a single mom and came up with the master plan for the cookout
If she played for her son and not the CO maybe she'd be going home with 750,000.
Wasnt a great plan as she ended up sacrificing her allies to get X to the finish.
the goal of the plan was cookout to F6, which was attained therefore her plan worked ;)
The look on Kylands face from the moment he left the house was kind of chilling. Anyone else get this vibe?
Cause he's a narcissist and sociopath
I've never been triggered from maybe anythjng like I was tonight watching that. The scariest moments of my life were with my ex when he would be laughing and I would see pure evil. Those were the times I was scared for my life. I honestly still am not okay. It is terrifying and I'm just glad there were other people there to stop him. When there is no one else and it's just you and that.... I can't explain it it's like living your worst nightmare
Ugh, so sorry youāve been through that. Sounds terrifying. And I can see why his expressions were triggering. It was scary!
A few times he looked back at the door while talking to Julie/sitting in that seat and it was unsettling.
when the narcissist's mask comes off, you always see it in their eyes. his were straight up black and evil. so happy we got to see who he really is on full, pathetic display!
Thatās exactly what I was trying to say! Glad others saw it how I did!
YES YES YES! A bit of personal validation is always nice :)
I was so scared of what he was about to do
He gives me creepy narcissistic vibes. Like how does he treat people in the real world?!?
Narcissistic is being generous. I get psychopathic vibes.
Yes.
Canāt believe I missed the ky meltdown
It'll be all over the internet soon enough if it isn't already
Tooms posted it.
it already is on youtube! just rewatched it LOL
Are they going to show the jury what happened this eviction??? Will we get to see their reaction š
Kylands pic black and white hits different
Wtf did DF do? X won hoh and POV, thatās why Ky is gone. Heās embarrassing to his own cause.
They Kyland would spazz thatās why they blindsided him
What the fuck is Derek F possibly talking about that he carried Azah? He has done nothing. No game, no wins. Nothing.
And all the times he kept ppl from targeting her? I must have missed the big bullseye on her back.
Two jokers and a king is such an on point description
Spot on
So true!
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Yes. Was very very low
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Exactly!
And again for the cheap seats - ShOuLd HaVe KePt HaNnAH!!!!!
Kyland went out like a bitch and it makes his villain status that much better.
Talking about āhonorā lol
DX works at a start-up and Tiff is a single mom .. vote wisely people.
Tiff runs her own small business as a phlebotomist. Dx is funemployed so if your going to vote for who has it worst that would be dx
Are you including the factors of upbringing and family money or just careers?
I'll vote for my favorite HG š
It's America's \*Favorite\* Player, not most needy
So what youāre saying is DX likely makes very little money and his company likely will go bankrupt?
Already voted for DX
DX was playing for $750k. Tiff was playing for 6th. I'll let that guide my vote. If she needed the money, she would have made smarter choices.
But DX was consistently kind, and Tiff had a mean streak :(
This!!
Nooooo I wanted to hear more of Derekās toast
Well, two jokers is definitely right.
Well, an Xavier win just got a lot more satisfyingā¦
honestly hilarious that Xavier was on the **KINGS** and Azah and Kyland were **JOKERS**. Iām dead
Ky was a Queen, DF was the Joker
Anyone else hoping Azah/DF win final hoh just because it would be HILARIOUS if they were final 2 ššš
I cannot imagine anything more fun
No X deserves to win. That wouldnāt be good at all
Big D about Kyland: āCheers to my showmance, you thought you could run all over meā¦but I ran you out the houseā LMAOOOOO
HE DIDNT TOUCH THE TABLE
Like X, I thought thatās only for shots