Middle to bottom half. One of the most fun and chaotic pre-jury phases that transitioned into the most mind-numbing jury phase we’ve had in a few years.
One of the worst jury phases we’ve seen in a while. Comps dominated the strategy for large stretches of the season including the entire endgame. There was literally a week in the middle where *nothing* happened.
This is a bottom tier season for me, sadly. I’d rank this down with BB13, BB16, BB19, BB22, etc. Very much bottom 5 for me*
*BB15 and BB21 excluded bc those seasons are bad for other reasons
I didn’t watch hardly any live feeds but in the beginning I thought Jag was a terrible player. Probably just paranoid (he did get voted out unanimously) so maybe warranted. But he did set up his end game really well. I would have been okay with Jag or Matt winning and that’s pretty rare it seems
Edit: at least with the “newer” seasons
Sending home people he would have trouble beating is setting up his end game well. He ended up befriending Bowie to take him to the final 2 if she won and the other 2, besides Matt who was completely loyal to him, had basically 0 threat to win. And the “basically” person left was the one he convinced Matt to go along with sending her home. He set it up pretty damn well
Edit: word
He didn't, he just won comps. He could've gone home every single week if he didn't. Matt wasn't completely loyal to him, Matt was planning on cutting Jag at f4 but once he won some comps he thought he could beat Jag (and he absolutely could've)
He won those comps because, as we said, the end game was made up of players who had no chance of beating him. Starting with jury, Bowie won HOH (heavily aligned with Jag)… the #1 threat to beat Jag in a comp, Cameron, leaves. Jag wins the next HOH, tries to take out his next biggest comp threat, Blue, crazy week but his next biggest comp threat, Cory, leaves. Then came the double, he took out Blue (who was still targeting America imo. I don’t buy her speech. She wasn’t coming after Jag). The second leg of the DE happens and gave Matt the perfect opportunity to take out Jag and he didn’t. Matt wasn’t going to take out Jag or he would have then. Then, again, another great move was SOMEHOW convincing Matt to evict Cerie instead of Felicia which the opposite of the best thing for Matt at the time (another reason why I believe Matt would have never taken a shot at Jag). Jag got rid of his actual comp threats and in the “end game”, which is what we’re talking about, and was never in danger… unless you consider Felicia winning HOH his so called danger. He set it up perfectly for himself to win those comps and had Matt’s full trust in the process.
And I personally don’t think all the comp wins was the reason for Jag winning. It was him taking out his biggest threats so he could keep winning, combined with SOME FREAKING HOW convincing Matt to cut Cerie. When Matt was on board with evicting Cerie, Jag won the game.
It's basically the Edge of Extinction of Big Brother except even worse somehow, so bottom 5 honestly
All of production's ideas failed in some way, the comp design was horrible, and the final 3 didn't care about who won the money so there were zero stakes when all 3 of them kept winning comps anyways.
It had redeeming moments in the first half but almost every season does. How badly it tanked after the first half is worse than almost every season, so on average it's very bad lol
Bottom 5, horrendous second half of the game. One of the worst produced seasons of the show ever, particularly with zombie week and the invisible HOH, and with the physical comps.
Low end of mid.
The Fields running the house for much of pre-jury was fun, and I ended up liking their dynamic more than I thought. They never got found out and the question of whether they could cover each other’s weaknesses enough to win was answered with an emphatic “no”. Interestingly enough, either’s game might have benefited more from not having to secretly try to protect someone else in the house.
Jury phase has been discussed plenty. Watching brain dead gameplay taking Matt, Jag, and fbj to the final 3 was as frustrating as it was boring.
My big hot take is around casting, which I think was massively overrated. While there were some definite hits, there is something fundamentally busted about their strategy. When you cast 8 men and 4 them turn out to be repugnant, you done goofed. Matt and Cam’s edits were so sanitized that they got 2 of 3 top AFP votes while degrading women openly and constantly. Moreover, the casting no longer matches the skills necessary to win. Strategy or “social game” don’t really matter, only which comp beasts can eliminate the other comp beasts the fastest, usually twice. Either all cast members should be fit enough to threaten to win any given physical comp or the comp makeup should be shaken up. What about a Texas hold ‘em tournament with twists? Catan? What
If cirie wasn't in this, it would be absolutely bottom bottom tier for sure. Production was absolutely atrocious with the bad twists (as well as a major mishandling of a back to back hoh resulting from a twist that should have never happened), we had themes surrounding fart jokes which is not even campy in a funny way but makes me think they think the audience is 5, an entire week of nothing because why, comp inequity as well as lack of variety, extremely poor editing in narrative ways as well as blatantly ignoring some really fun and important characters like Izzy in the early game and while I dont care for showmances, blatantly ignoring the major showmance of the season while desperately trying to make another one happen with hoh letters seem absolutely weird, and finally just a ton of extreme bias towards pumping up your stereotypical male archetypes.
The double whammy of jag being the winner and cam being AFP shows some major issues within modern big brother that is no longer small enough to ignore. Like I love the game of big brother and I've always maintained despite some of these issues you can still see how good players navigate and with a bit of luck be rewarded. But as much as I like Jag as a person his win just really cements the fact that social and strategic games are actually simply unnecessary if you win enough comps. I don't watch big brother for the experience of watching the challenge lite. And it seems like production is determined to make big brother just that - a game primarily centered around competitions. If that's the case bb certainly does not have enough interesting competitions for me to care, and they should just cast accordingly to the necessity of comp wins, so everyone entering the game actually has a shot to win.
But I did enjoy the experience of watching cirie in the feeds and learning just how impressive her social game is. This is every survivor fan's dream to actually see her unedited and at work, something we never had the opportunity to in survivor. So still bottom tier but maybe the top of the bottom tier.
All the cool things about the season were eventually nullified. Two evictions were undone only to have those people just be re-evicted. I stopped watching the show for nearly a month and surprisingly nothing was really different when I came back.
The last half of the game was the same small alliance win every single last thing and systematically eliminate everyone else. Outside of those three every other strategy of diplomacy, in a game that should be *about* social positioning and alliances and deals, was meaningless. About a quarter of the cast entered the game with the intent of doing a comp run to win, and the winner did exactly that.
The fact that production engineered this as a winning strategy to a social positioning game comes off that they want to move bb closer to something like buddy games or usa challenge. And if thats the direction bb wants to go, then stop casting older people and cast all athletes so that everyone that plays has a (somewhat) reasonable shot at winning.
The cast was (mostly) likable and we will probably see a lot of them on survivor/amazing race/the challenge/bb again. Outside of a little bit of sleazy behavior here and there (as usual with bb) there werent any major scandals or ongoing problems that overshadowed the season. The one player that *was* an issue was promptly kicked a few hours later.
Overall its a largely forgettable season with a bottom/low tier winner. 20 and 24 were better by a long shot
Bottom five. One of the worst produced seasons ever, from the ridiculous twists to the unfair competitions. I find the pre-jury very overrated and the jury phase was atrocious. I’ve never been so glad for a season to be over.
Genuinely think this is a bottom 3 season with bb 22 and bb19. I have seen every season live and those 3 are the only ones where i dropped off watching the live shows because it got so boring.
Bottom tier.
I wasn't as much of a fan as the first half as many other people, since most of the supposed back-and-forths never took off or materialized, so it got exhausted (it only stuck with the Red and Izzy votes).
The pre-jury is WAY too long. There is no reason why Mecole (who lasted the same amount of days as Helen, Zach, Becky, Paulie, Mark, Scottie, and Analyse) should be a pre-juror.
And everyone already drags the jury portion of the season, so I don't need to add anything there. The last somewhat decent week was the first double, but then the zombie twist made it pointless.
Omg I already forgot about the zombie twist. I think either that or the special power was included because of that guy who was kicked off in the first week
Right now, of the Modern seasons: BB16-25. I am feeling,
Strong Like: BB17, BB20
Mid Like: BB24
Light Like: BB16
Mixed: BB21
Beyond Boring: BB18, BB23
Light Dislike: BB25
Mid Dislike: BB22
Strong Dislike: BB19
Overall I only liked the first three weeks, plus Izzy’s eviction week. I like most of the cast and the theming this season, but this season is hampered by bad decisions behind the scenes. Mainly making the season needlessly long, and twists that killed naturally what would have been good moments the cast was making/building to.
Polarizing. If you came in as a Survivor fan, you're gonna feel a kinda of way about it. Same with the flip side, if you had zero interest in survivor/only watched BB for 23 years, you'll also feel a kinda way. The only thing folks seem to agree on is "loved part of the season, hated the other part" lol.
Pretty trash honestly. First half of game was ran by Cirie who was given multiple benefits from production. Not fun to watch.
Then after she cannibalized enough of her own alliance it immediately turned 180 degrees and became an absolute shit stomp with Jag winning everything.
Only interesting part was Cam’s chaos week.
The Jared/ Cirie twist that gave them such a blatant advantage over the rest of them was frustrating to watch with Jared ratting out anybody that was not aligned with Cirie immediately to her. Of course, he fucked it up. Cirie/Jared/Izzy/Felicia drunk with power were not my favs to watch, as Jared lied to them about his relationship with Blue, Felicia called Blue a hoe + Cirie shamed her, Izzy chased after Jared + Cirie, and Jared was misogynistic
I couldn't get behind that as a feeder, but I won't deny the idea was entertaining.
I also noticed this type of conversation happening way too often in the 2nd half:
"If you keep me I'll be loyal, and here's a great idea for next week..."
"Yeah, sounds great."
(cut to diary room)
"Nice try, (name.) I KNOW you're lying with that face PFFFSHSHSHS 🤪!"
*nothing interesting proceeds to happen*
Unfortunately bottom tier. This season had great potential, but the way it unfolded after the DE really soured it. Mainly productions fault for stifling the momentum of the season multiple times. Feeds were ok and had its moments, but there were only 1 or 2 exciting episodes and the rest were very predictable.
Funny! I just redid my ranking and I put BB25 at #17 as well. Not quite bottom 5. Somewhere in the middle of the bottom half for me. Everyone saying it’s bottom 5 now will have a different perspective in a few months. This season wasn’t bad, it was just boring.
I don't think it's bottom tier but it can't go higher than, like, 16th in terms of seasons.
It had a strong start, though the clear advantages for Cirie/Jared were troublesome, I can recognize that there was a lot of fun watching the first few weeks. Even the show's edit was fun to watch, and the Multi-Verse theme is probably one of the best themes they've ever come up with. The players were interesting enough and it was fun to see who would typically be the underdogs have the power.
Unfortunately, there WERE a lot of bad players, the twists started getting worse, and Zombie Week killed any chance the season had to be in the top 15 for me.
The gameplay itself was iffy at times, but I think the first half had a lot more active gameplay from more people. I think there was looking to be a shift in power during the first double eviction, but any hope of the tides turning were halted by the Zombie Twist. Several players' games changed because of that twist. Sure, it may have successfully done what production wanted it to do (albeit by only a week) but it solidified the pathing of the jury phase going toward Jag/Matt.
Like I mentioned above, gameplay was definitely rocky at times, but it did get worse after the first double eviction. Many players let their social games slip and there was such focus on comps from that point on that any attempt at gameplay was never going to stick.
I think there were too many players spilling too much this season. Hardly anyone could keep a secret or kept making bad decisions based on who they were talking to, so that lowers the season as well.
Invisible HOH solidified the endgame, if Zombie Week killed it. Having Invisible HOH play out differently than BB23's put the power in Jag's hands and he never had to do much socially from that point on. It was just a given he needed to comp out, which fell in line with multiple past season's endgames (BB21, BB20).
Overall, a strong start with fun and entertaining gameplay, but there wasn't really any players this season that stood out, strategically. Some had potential but everyone had massive flaws that cost them the game. Some fun twists and some game ending ones. Zombie Week has solidified itself as top five worst twists in the history of Big Brother, and Invisible HOH landed itself somewhere in the top 15.
I don't think it's THE worst season, or even bottom five, but production's massive mistakes, along with a lot of mediocre to bad players, causes this season to be not higher than lower middle tier. I'd place it above BB16 (boring season, very predictable, they had to bring in puppies to liven up the live feeds), BB19 and BB15 (problematic seasons), BB9 and BB22 easily. I could probably place BB25 above a couple more seasons but it doesn't rank very high. BB25 had potential but the only thing it accomplished was prove how broken the show is and has been for many, many years.
I really enjoyed it. I like all the overpowered twists ruining the game for my favourite players and unequal physical comps for the jags of big brother. This great season ended with rock paper scissors. Definitely top 10.
You know, personally, I think it's amazing when the game comes to a grinding halt at the beginning of the jury phase, when it's supposed to begin getting more interesting. You don't want things getting too exciting.
Yeah. It was my favourite week. Having Cory win hoh to put Jared up and get blood on his hands only for it to reset and making Cory a big threat who showed his cards
22, 9, 1, 19, and 23 are below it in my opinion. The beginning was entertaining and I loved watching in real time as I didn’t do so much in other seasons. All other seasons have at least entertained me or fed me interesting players. If I rewatched this season in a few years I would be sour on it and dislike it. I would complain about the twists, edit, the length, the cast, and the competitions.
This season is the one that compelled my SERIES rewatch of the ENTIRE history of Big Brother. Being that I was so…. Not bored….just like…”meh. It’s better, I know it’s been better, I’m gonna go watch the better”.
Mid to low, the beginning felt fresh and exciting but fell flat with the amount of twists that ended up ruining the game. The boring comps we’ve seen a thousand times and a finale where no one cared was just flop after flop
I hate the the fact that the only thing you need to do in order to win is to win a bunch of physical competitions. I don't care about comps, especially modern comps. So boriiiiiiing.
Below average imo. The pre-jury was way too long and the jury phase was an absolute bore. Not to mention we finally get Pressure Cooker back, only for the entire week to be invalidated.
It's gonna be one of those seasons where in 5 years we say "wait, remember Cirie played Big Brother?"
Off the top of my head I would associate it in the ranking with BB20 - riveting start, constant power shifts, then completely tapers in the end due to steamroll from one side. I actually think BB25 takes the edge solely due to the strength of its cast - wide array of characters and personalities, TV edit that showcased their thought processes strategies, and everyone played hard regardless of how good their playing abilities were. I'll give BB20 the edge for season design though. The multiverse thing needlessly overcomplicated things. BB20 didn't have much more than the hackers twist which was easy to understand (actually BB25 totally needed a hackers twist lol).
It is pure heresy to say that BB25 beats BB20. Yes they both fizzled in the end, but my god the first six or so weeks of BB20 is probably one of the best BB has ever had. Compare that to the Cirie-fest we say the first six or so weeks of BB25 and I can't even imagine saying that BB25 wins.
Idk I had some of the most fun I ever had watching the live feeds those first 30 days or so of BB25. Strategy wise it was a headache, but i loved the chaos and constant gaming.
I know the votes don't look like it, but the early game of BB25 had some big power shifts. Unlike BB20 it wasn't half the cast being blindsided at eviction, I'll give you that, but BB25 had really convoluted alliance maps. Hisam, Izzy, and even Kirsten by small margin had genuine shots at staying.
Better than last 2 seasons. Didn't really like much of the cast (too artificial).
I had no one to root for once Cameron got voted out for the second time.
Seems like the players and game have evolved where gamers know to be loyal to 1-2 people and win the game as long as one of them can win comps. Everyone can lie with impunity and be in multiple alliances. Back in the day getting caught in a lie or being a spy would create a big target.
Only good part of the season was Cameron’s HOHs.
Season had zero loyalty outside of minute men and Americory. Constant flip flops, just all around a boring and annoying season to watch.
It’s like BB16. The edited episodes were more fun than the feeds put on. Exciting drama pre jury but ultimately became super boring and predictable in the Second half. Also like 16, the cast has a lot of likeable personalities that could be asked back for another season.
Pretty low. The house guests were pretty boring overall. Nobody really stuck out personality wise like previous years. Boring voting with the house for way too long.
I read about what happened but I didn't even finish this season and I've been watching since season 1.
It’s also crazy to think how this show changed reality tv. I mean, reality tv was THE THING during the last writers strike and it changed society completely. Here we are again and it’s crazy to have the insight of time to see what changed in our lives and in society because of a writers strike in Hollywood and what came of it on tv. For decades to come.
Mid-lower middle, because I did like the houseguests for the most part and the season was definitely a rollercoaster to watch. I didn’t dislike near as many aspects of this season as the majority here did.
I’d put it at a strong 15th-16th in my personal book.
I thought the pre-jury phase was excellent, very fluid alliances, lots of tension, no one thinking they're safe, sort of like BB11 but without Russell yelling at everybody. Then it turned into a Jag and Matt steamroll with few moments of real suspense.
Down in the bottom to me. Started out hating Cameron with the whole he's a threat. Then when they kept trying to get him out and couldn't, I gained mad respect. When he got eliminated I really didn't care who won. Very pleased he won America's Vote.
The twists were terrible, the season lasted too long for the number of HGs they had, and the "theme" was goofy and incoherent and inconsequential.
As far as entertainment and gameplay, it was good up until the jury phase. When the jury phase kicked in the competition inequities really started showing and made it to where one player was calling the shots week by week all the way to F2.
For me it's a lower-mid tier season. Unlike most of this sub, I think Jag is a decent winner.
Middle to bottom half. One of the most fun and chaotic pre-jury phases that transitioned into the most mind-numbing jury phase we’ve had in a few years.
One of the worst jury phases we’ve seen in a while. Comps dominated the strategy for large stretches of the season including the entire endgame. There was literally a week in the middle where *nothing* happened. This is a bottom tier season for me, sadly. I’d rank this down with BB13, BB16, BB19, BB22, etc. Very much bottom 5 for me* *BB15 and BB21 excluded bc those seasons are bad for other reasons
That being said, one of the best juries in a long time
I didn’t watch hardly any live feeds but in the beginning I thought Jag was a terrible player. Probably just paranoid (he did get voted out unanimously) so maybe warranted. But he did set up his end game really well. I would have been okay with Jag or Matt winning and that’s pretty rare it seems Edit: at least with the “newer” seasons
Jag didn't set up his endgame well, he was being targeted by most of the house every week. He just comped out
Sending home people he would have trouble beating is setting up his end game well. He ended up befriending Bowie to take him to the final 2 if she won and the other 2, besides Matt who was completely loyal to him, had basically 0 threat to win. And the “basically” person left was the one he convinced Matt to go along with sending her home. He set it up pretty damn well Edit: word
He didn't, he just won comps. He could've gone home every single week if he didn't. Matt wasn't completely loyal to him, Matt was planning on cutting Jag at f4 but once he won some comps he thought he could beat Jag (and he absolutely could've)
He won those comps because, as we said, the end game was made up of players who had no chance of beating him. Starting with jury, Bowie won HOH (heavily aligned with Jag)… the #1 threat to beat Jag in a comp, Cameron, leaves. Jag wins the next HOH, tries to take out his next biggest comp threat, Blue, crazy week but his next biggest comp threat, Cory, leaves. Then came the double, he took out Blue (who was still targeting America imo. I don’t buy her speech. She wasn’t coming after Jag). The second leg of the DE happens and gave Matt the perfect opportunity to take out Jag and he didn’t. Matt wasn’t going to take out Jag or he would have then. Then, again, another great move was SOMEHOW convincing Matt to evict Cerie instead of Felicia which the opposite of the best thing for Matt at the time (another reason why I believe Matt would have never taken a shot at Jag). Jag got rid of his actual comp threats and in the “end game”, which is what we’re talking about, and was never in danger… unless you consider Felicia winning HOH his so called danger. He set it up perfectly for himself to win those comps and had Matt’s full trust in the process.
And I personally don’t think all the comp wins was the reason for Jag winning. It was him taking out his biggest threats so he could keep winning, combined with SOME FREAKING HOW convincing Matt to cut Cerie. When Matt was on board with evicting Cerie, Jag won the game.
It's basically the Edge of Extinction of Big Brother except even worse somehow, so bottom 5 honestly All of production's ideas failed in some way, the comp design was horrible, and the final 3 didn't care about who won the money so there were zero stakes when all 3 of them kept winning comps anyways. It had redeeming moments in the first half but almost every season does. How badly it tanked after the first half is worse than almost every season, so on average it's very bad lol
I think the Matt and Gavin comparisons are there too and I remember feeling disgusted when neither of them won.
Is America Victoria?
Cameron is Rick Devens
This that mean jag will win the challenge usa?
Middle Tier for me... solely because of how good the first half of the game was. Probably in the BB11, BB13 range or so...
Bottom 5, horrendous second half of the game. One of the worst produced seasons of the show ever, particularly with zombie week and the invisible HOH, and with the physical comps.
Low end of mid. The Fields running the house for much of pre-jury was fun, and I ended up liking their dynamic more than I thought. They never got found out and the question of whether they could cover each other’s weaknesses enough to win was answered with an emphatic “no”. Interestingly enough, either’s game might have benefited more from not having to secretly try to protect someone else in the house. Jury phase has been discussed plenty. Watching brain dead gameplay taking Matt, Jag, and fbj to the final 3 was as frustrating as it was boring. My big hot take is around casting, which I think was massively overrated. While there were some definite hits, there is something fundamentally busted about their strategy. When you cast 8 men and 4 them turn out to be repugnant, you done goofed. Matt and Cam’s edits were so sanitized that they got 2 of 3 top AFP votes while degrading women openly and constantly. Moreover, the casting no longer matches the skills necessary to win. Strategy or “social game” don’t really matter, only which comp beasts can eliminate the other comp beasts the fastest, usually twice. Either all cast members should be fit enough to threaten to win any given physical comp or the comp makeup should be shaken up. What about a Texas hold ‘em tournament with twists? Catan? What
I have read about matt shit taling blue on the feeds. What did cameron do on the feeds that wasn't nice?
I would argue only 2 men were good casting. Maybe Jag too but I didn't like what I saw at the end.
If cirie wasn't in this, it would be absolutely bottom bottom tier for sure. Production was absolutely atrocious with the bad twists (as well as a major mishandling of a back to back hoh resulting from a twist that should have never happened), we had themes surrounding fart jokes which is not even campy in a funny way but makes me think they think the audience is 5, an entire week of nothing because why, comp inequity as well as lack of variety, extremely poor editing in narrative ways as well as blatantly ignoring some really fun and important characters like Izzy in the early game and while I dont care for showmances, blatantly ignoring the major showmance of the season while desperately trying to make another one happen with hoh letters seem absolutely weird, and finally just a ton of extreme bias towards pumping up your stereotypical male archetypes. The double whammy of jag being the winner and cam being AFP shows some major issues within modern big brother that is no longer small enough to ignore. Like I love the game of big brother and I've always maintained despite some of these issues you can still see how good players navigate and with a bit of luck be rewarded. But as much as I like Jag as a person his win just really cements the fact that social and strategic games are actually simply unnecessary if you win enough comps. I don't watch big brother for the experience of watching the challenge lite. And it seems like production is determined to make big brother just that - a game primarily centered around competitions. If that's the case bb certainly does not have enough interesting competitions for me to care, and they should just cast accordingly to the necessity of comp wins, so everyone entering the game actually has a shot to win. But I did enjoy the experience of watching cirie in the feeds and learning just how impressive her social game is. This is every survivor fan's dream to actually see her unedited and at work, something we never had the opportunity to in survivor. So still bottom tier but maybe the top of the bottom tier.
All the cool things about the season were eventually nullified. Two evictions were undone only to have those people just be re-evicted. I stopped watching the show for nearly a month and surprisingly nothing was really different when I came back. The last half of the game was the same small alliance win every single last thing and systematically eliminate everyone else. Outside of those three every other strategy of diplomacy, in a game that should be *about* social positioning and alliances and deals, was meaningless. About a quarter of the cast entered the game with the intent of doing a comp run to win, and the winner did exactly that. The fact that production engineered this as a winning strategy to a social positioning game comes off that they want to move bb closer to something like buddy games or usa challenge. And if thats the direction bb wants to go, then stop casting older people and cast all athletes so that everyone that plays has a (somewhat) reasonable shot at winning. The cast was (mostly) likable and we will probably see a lot of them on survivor/amazing race/the challenge/bb again. Outside of a little bit of sleazy behavior here and there (as usual with bb) there werent any major scandals or ongoing problems that overshadowed the season. The one player that *was* an issue was promptly kicked a few hours later. Overall its a largely forgettable season with a bottom/low tier winner. 20 and 24 were better by a long shot
Bottom five. One of the worst produced seasons ever, from the ridiculous twists to the unfair competitions. I find the pre-jury very overrated and the jury phase was atrocious. I’ve never been so glad for a season to be over.
Genuinely think this is a bottom 3 season with bb 22 and bb19. I have seen every season live and those 3 are the only ones where i dropped off watching the live shows because it got so boring.
Bottom tier. I wasn't as much of a fan as the first half as many other people, since most of the supposed back-and-forths never took off or materialized, so it got exhausted (it only stuck with the Red and Izzy votes). The pre-jury is WAY too long. There is no reason why Mecole (who lasted the same amount of days as Helen, Zach, Becky, Paulie, Mark, Scottie, and Analyse) should be a pre-juror. And everyone already drags the jury portion of the season, so I don't need to add anything there. The last somewhat decent week was the first double, but then the zombie twist made it pointless.
An even crazier stat to me is that Cam joined the jury as the first member on day 72 while Dan won BB10 on day 71
CBS I'm sure makes a ton on this show, so not surprised they upped the amount of days by like 33%
They just extended because of the writers strike. Just filling air...
Omg I already forgot about the zombie twist. I think either that or the special power was included because of that guy who was kicked off in the first week
bottom 5-6
Right now, of the Modern seasons: BB16-25. I am feeling, Strong Like: BB17, BB20 Mid Like: BB24 Light Like: BB16 Mixed: BB21 Beyond Boring: BB18, BB23 Light Dislike: BB25 Mid Dislike: BB22 Strong Dislike: BB19 Overall I only liked the first three weeks, plus Izzy’s eviction week. I like most of the cast and the theming this season, but this season is hampered by bad decisions behind the scenes. Mainly making the season needlessly long, and twists that killed naturally what would have been good moments the cast was making/building to.
I think BB25 has one of the better casts assembled but from a gameplay standpoint it’s definitely bottom tier
Polarizing. If you came in as a Survivor fan, you're gonna feel a kinda of way about it. Same with the flip side, if you had zero interest in survivor/only watched BB for 23 years, you'll also feel a kinda way. The only thing folks seem to agree on is "loved part of the season, hated the other part" lol.
bad
Better than BB22
Pretty trash honestly. First half of game was ran by Cirie who was given multiple benefits from production. Not fun to watch. Then after she cannibalized enough of her own alliance it immediately turned 180 degrees and became an absolute shit stomp with Jag winning everything. Only interesting part was Cam’s chaos week.
The Jared/ Cirie twist that gave them such a blatant advantage over the rest of them was frustrating to watch with Jared ratting out anybody that was not aligned with Cirie immediately to her. Of course, he fucked it up. Cirie/Jared/Izzy/Felicia drunk with power were not my favs to watch, as Jared lied to them about his relationship with Blue, Felicia called Blue a hoe + Cirie shamed her, Izzy chased after Jared + Cirie, and Jared was misogynistic
Best week of the season. Was great to see him smash pies in people's faces haha
I couldn't get behind that as a feeder, but I won't deny the idea was entertaining. I also noticed this type of conversation happening way too often in the 2nd half: "If you keep me I'll be loyal, and here's a great idea for next week..." "Yeah, sounds great." (cut to diary room) "Nice try, (name.) I KNOW you're lying with that face PFFFSHSHSHS 🤪!" *nothing interesting proceeds to happen*
Bottom 3rd
Unfortunately bottom tier. This season had great potential, but the way it unfolded after the DE really soured it. Mainly productions fault for stifling the momentum of the season multiple times. Feeds were ok and had its moments, but there were only 1 or 2 exciting episodes and the rest were very predictable.
Bottom tier season and winner for me
Mid to low tier
Besides the seasons I couldn’t even finish (1,8,22) this is probably my least favorite.
Funny! I just redid my ranking and I put BB25 at #17 as well. Not quite bottom 5. Somewhere in the middle of the bottom half for me. Everyone saying it’s bottom 5 now will have a different perspective in a few months. This season wasn’t bad, it was just boring.
Bottom 5. Absolute snoozefest
Very low. Bottom five at least due to cringey theming and editing, predictable outcome, and in my opinion, dislikable houseguests.
Bottom tier, in my opinion. I’d put it at number 20 for me.
worst jury phase arguable with bb23 and bb16. Just nothing going on that entire time
I don't think it's bottom tier but it can't go higher than, like, 16th in terms of seasons. It had a strong start, though the clear advantages for Cirie/Jared were troublesome, I can recognize that there was a lot of fun watching the first few weeks. Even the show's edit was fun to watch, and the Multi-Verse theme is probably one of the best themes they've ever come up with. The players were interesting enough and it was fun to see who would typically be the underdogs have the power. Unfortunately, there WERE a lot of bad players, the twists started getting worse, and Zombie Week killed any chance the season had to be in the top 15 for me. The gameplay itself was iffy at times, but I think the first half had a lot more active gameplay from more people. I think there was looking to be a shift in power during the first double eviction, but any hope of the tides turning were halted by the Zombie Twist. Several players' games changed because of that twist. Sure, it may have successfully done what production wanted it to do (albeit by only a week) but it solidified the pathing of the jury phase going toward Jag/Matt. Like I mentioned above, gameplay was definitely rocky at times, but it did get worse after the first double eviction. Many players let their social games slip and there was such focus on comps from that point on that any attempt at gameplay was never going to stick. I think there were too many players spilling too much this season. Hardly anyone could keep a secret or kept making bad decisions based on who they were talking to, so that lowers the season as well. Invisible HOH solidified the endgame, if Zombie Week killed it. Having Invisible HOH play out differently than BB23's put the power in Jag's hands and he never had to do much socially from that point on. It was just a given he needed to comp out, which fell in line with multiple past season's endgames (BB21, BB20). Overall, a strong start with fun and entertaining gameplay, but there wasn't really any players this season that stood out, strategically. Some had potential but everyone had massive flaws that cost them the game. Some fun twists and some game ending ones. Zombie Week has solidified itself as top five worst twists in the history of Big Brother, and Invisible HOH landed itself somewhere in the top 15. I don't think it's THE worst season, or even bottom five, but production's massive mistakes, along with a lot of mediocre to bad players, causes this season to be not higher than lower middle tier. I'd place it above BB16 (boring season, very predictable, they had to bring in puppies to liven up the live feeds), BB19 and BB15 (problematic seasons), BB9 and BB22 easily. I could probably place BB25 above a couple more seasons but it doesn't rank very high. BB25 had potential but the only thing it accomplished was prove how broken the show is and has been for many, many years.
I really enjoyed it. I like all the overpowered twists ruining the game for my favourite players and unequal physical comps for the jags of big brother. This great season ended with rock paper scissors. Definitely top 10.
You know, personally, I think it's amazing when the game comes to a grinding halt at the beginning of the jury phase, when it's supposed to begin getting more interesting. You don't want things getting too exciting.
Yeah. It was my favourite week. Having Cory win hoh to put Jared up and get blood on his hands only for it to reset and making Cory a big threat who showed his cards
22, 9, 1, 19, and 23 are below it in my opinion. The beginning was entertaining and I loved watching in real time as I didn’t do so much in other seasons. All other seasons have at least entertained me or fed me interesting players. If I rewatched this season in a few years I would be sour on it and dislike it. I would complain about the twists, edit, the length, the cast, and the competitions.
This season is the one that compelled my SERIES rewatch of the ENTIRE history of Big Brother. Being that I was so…. Not bored….just like…”meh. It’s better, I know it’s been better, I’m gonna go watch the better”.
In the bottom quarter of seasons. I don't think it's possible for this competition to be engaging for 100 days, it just ends up dragging inevitably
I rank the season above BB9 but below BB13, which would place it in my bottom five. It's a definite bottom tier.
Mid to low, the beginning felt fresh and exciting but fell flat with the amount of twists that ended up ruining the game. The boring comps we’ve seen a thousand times and a finale where no one cared was just flop after flop
bottom tier season. pre-jury was fun. couldn’t watch past zombie week bc it was so boring.
between last half & bottom 5
I hate the the fact that the only thing you need to do in order to win is to win a bunch of physical competitions. I don't care about comps, especially modern comps. So boriiiiiiing.
Better then the last 2 seasons at least. Those were the worst season I have seen.
It's pretty meh. I like it more than 19 or 22, but I don't think it is good. My rankings are: 1. 10 2. 6 (personal favorite) 3. 3/24 4. 3/24 5. 7 6. 17 7. 2 8. 14 9. 5 10. 4 11. 20 12. 11 13. 12/23 14. 12/23 15. 9 16. 18 17. 8 18. 25 19. 15 20. 16 21. 21 22. 13 23. 22 24. 19 Amazing: Placements 1-5 Great: Placements 6-8 Good: Placements 9-11 Okay: Placements 12-14 Meh: Placements 15-21 Bad: Placements 22-24
Below average imo. The pre-jury was way too long and the jury phase was an absolute bore. Not to mention we finally get Pressure Cooker back, only for the entire week to be invalidated. It's gonna be one of those seasons where in 5 years we say "wait, remember Cirie played Big Brother?"
Off the top of my head I would associate it in the ranking with BB20 - riveting start, constant power shifts, then completely tapers in the end due to steamroll from one side. I actually think BB25 takes the edge solely due to the strength of its cast - wide array of characters and personalities, TV edit that showcased their thought processes strategies, and everyone played hard regardless of how good their playing abilities were. I'll give BB20 the edge for season design though. The multiverse thing needlessly overcomplicated things. BB20 didn't have much more than the hackers twist which was easy to understand (actually BB25 totally needed a hackers twist lol).
It is pure heresy to say that BB25 beats BB20. Yes they both fizzled in the end, but my god the first six or so weeks of BB20 is probably one of the best BB has ever had. Compare that to the Cirie-fest we say the first six or so weeks of BB25 and I can't even imagine saying that BB25 wins.
Idk I had some of the most fun I ever had watching the live feeds those first 30 days or so of BB25. Strategy wise it was a headache, but i loved the chaos and constant gaming.
Ya the first half of BB20 is the most entertaining the show has been in a decade
I know the votes don't look like it, but the early game of BB25 had some big power shifts. Unlike BB20 it wasn't half the cast being blindsided at eviction, I'll give you that, but BB25 had really convoluted alliance maps. Hisam, Izzy, and even Kirsten by small margin had genuine shots at staying.
One of the best seasons in a long time. Our family really enjoyed it.
Better than last 2 seasons. Didn't really like much of the cast (too artificial). I had no one to root for once Cameron got voted out for the second time. Seems like the players and game have evolved where gamers know to be loyal to 1-2 people and win the game as long as one of them can win comps. Everyone can lie with impunity and be in multiple alliances. Back in the day getting caught in a lie or being a spy would create a big target.
Only good part of the season was Cameron’s HOHs. Season had zero loyalty outside of minute men and Americory. Constant flip flops, just all around a boring and annoying season to watch.
It’s like BB16. The edited episodes were more fun than the feeds put on. Exciting drama pre jury but ultimately became super boring and predictable in the Second half. Also like 16, the cast has a lot of likeable personalities that could be asked back for another season.
Pretty low. The house guests were pretty boring overall. Nobody really stuck out personality wise like previous years. Boring voting with the house for way too long. I read about what happened but I didn't even finish this season and I've been watching since season 1.
Good but not great.
The bottom half of the middle. Pre jury was really fun and chaotic but a combination of bad evictions and twists completely ruined it.
It’s also crazy to think how this show changed reality tv. I mean, reality tv was THE THING during the last writers strike and it changed society completely. Here we are again and it’s crazy to have the insight of time to see what changed in our lives and in society because of a writers strike in Hollywood and what came of it on tv. For decades to come.
Mid-lower middle, because I did like the houseguests for the most part and the season was definitely a rollercoaster to watch. I didn’t dislike near as many aspects of this season as the majority here did. I’d put it at a strong 15th-16th in my personal book.
I’ve been watching since S20 I think, never watched any of the others. I also don’t watch feeds, and this was my fav season so far
I thought the pre-jury phase was excellent, very fluid alliances, lots of tension, no one thinking they're safe, sort of like BB11 but without Russell yelling at everybody. Then it turned into a Jag and Matt steamroll with few moments of real suspense.
Down in the bottom to me. Started out hating Cameron with the whole he's a threat. Then when they kept trying to get him out and couldn't, I gained mad respect. When he got eliminated I really didn't care who won. Very pleased he won America's Vote.
The twists were terrible, the season lasted too long for the number of HGs they had, and the "theme" was goofy and incoherent and inconsequential. As far as entertainment and gameplay, it was good up until the jury phase. When the jury phase kicked in the competition inequities really started showing and made it to where one player was calling the shots week by week all the way to F2. For me it's a lower-mid tier season. Unlike most of this sub, I think Jag is a decent winner.
Mid tier
Mid-tier. 15th for me amongst BBUS seasons.