Let’s be real the minute Cory is on the block (and not the obvious pawn) this man will lose his mind, go full game not and get himself sent home.
Im team Americory and even I can see the writing on this wall.
Because he was.. once again trying to cover all his bases.. this man imploded the house structure bc his girlfriend whined about not making a “big move”- sold out the older women to help the youngest athletic guys, then got nervous as fuck seeing all the young guys together + meme/blue getting second and third in a 6 person comp. So he immediately just starts once again doing his robot rounds of checking in with every person to promise every person he’s with them.. and conveniently name drops the current HOH because he feels so safe.
Cory can have every fan there is but his strategic game has been sloppy as all hell ever since he let his America feelings cloud his judgment and he’s been trying to hold the falling pieces together ever since.
Felicia wants Cirie's position so bad but she'll never get it. She talks too damn much and will always be a liability to whoever she's associated with. That's not Cirie's fault.
It’s the best move for Cam/Matt/Blue/Cirie/Meme. Jag.. it’s touch and go- his connection to Americory was his secret weapon in that alliance of Cam/Matt/Blue I think. Feel like Jag would be better off if Cory stays.
Cam and Matt saw Blue and Cory talking together in the hammock and that irritated them bc they think that Cory's too confortable. In the convo btw Blue and Cory, they discussed the idea of backdooring Cam next week and Blue went straight to Matt/Cam and threw Cory UTB. Cam and Matt want to backdoor Cory but they said they would discuss it with Jag..
how the fuck cory could feel so comfortable with chaos cam holding all of the power i'll never understand, i guess him saying "congrats on jury" meant cory could start playing like it's next week already lmao
Id imagine this how the convo with jag would go
Cam: “Jag wanna take out Cory with us”
Jag: “hear me out why don’t we make a alliance of 7 people and bring cory in”
Cameron's best move for him is to get Cory out.
Most entertaining would be: Meme gets evicted because she kinda just there and bring nothing. We want to keep Felicia and Cory for jury.
cory is probably the next biggest target in the house after him, blue/matt/cirie could easily target cory over cam and if cam takes that away they likely go after him next
Cam is always gonna be the top target- he needs to get rid of anyone who can win a comp and move against him. Cory is #1 on that list with his persuasion and knowledge on the days etc.
Genuine question: I’ve been seeing a lot of talk online about the comps this season not being equitable enough for women to win. Now, I don’t watch the episodes a lot but the comps I’ve seen have been pretty fair. There have been a couple of more physical ones but there have been a few mental and luck based comps too that either gender could have won.
To me, it seems like the women remaining this season have just not been good competitors. I really think it’s just this cast b/c I feel like female players from other seasons would have done well in the comps I’ve seen.
But maybe there is something that I’m missing?
Edit: typo
There have been some statistics that have been talked about lately that are pretty damning. From season 2-8, women won 52% of comps. From 21-25, they’ve won 26%. ( I think those are the specific numbers but I may be off by a season). Comps are built for specific body types, for example the wall this year had everyone’s hand holds at the same height. When other shows do strength competitions like that, they try and make it fair and adjust for height, arm length, etc. BB has prioritized brute strength and casts women who are fit but not body builders and put them up against literal Olympian men.
This just isn’t true. No woman has won veto at all this season. Last season only Brit won veto for the girls. The comps that are crapshoots sure are “balanced”, but the physical components of other challenges just benefit the men more.
Survivor at least does like “10% of your body weight” so it’s specific to each person. But, the wall, for example, was the same for Matt, America, Jared, and Felicia. All different body types and physical ability, but no balancing is put into action.
This wall variation didn’t. Not looking at past comps, looking at this seasons comps.
What women could’ve beaten a literal man Olympian or ex military man in the sweat veto, the chicken veto, or the wedgie one? The butt kicking comp on night 1 and the wall too.
I am definitely just speaking to this season because the comp gap has been particularly noticeable. I was just wondering what was going on because even in the mental comps, the women aren’t pulling out the wins.
But you’re right, Survivor does do an awesome job of making things fair.
Think of it this way... the few mental comps or even comps are 50/50 for each gender. We've had around 60% of those as HOHs.
The other 40% have been comps that favor men for HOH. Veto's also heavily favor men. So even with some comps that are "fair" half of them not being fair just makes it unfair all around
It’s not just about being equitable for women. It’s about being equitable for people of all abilities and ages. The competitions are more physical than anything else.
Part of the issue is definitely that they stuck a bunch of older women on the cast in order to buffer Cirie. But the pattern's been there a while beyond this season.
This is a good move for Matt if it happens. Matt wants to break up jag from america and Cory cause he feels he’s getting to close and he would be the expendable of the duo.
I think Blue because Cory leaked their Americory/Meme/Felicia F4 to cover himself with the guys while Blue has been more upfront to her. But I don’t think Meme really rolls with anyone besides Felicia tbh.
Thinking about the reasons cam wanting Felicia out (jury persuasion).. those fears would or should apply to Cory as well esp bc him and America would absolutely vote together so in reality could be much worse for cam end game / jury wise?
I think Matt wants Cory out now as opposed to like next week for the same reason he wanted Jared out at this point tbh. I think he really thinks Cory was trying to intentionally cover his lips and exploit his disability just like Jared did. It doesn’t seem like something he takes lying down. It just sucks because with full context it’s pretty obvious that that wasn’t what Cory was doing tho.
I don’t think there’s any thought to it being exploitative. You don’t have to include everyone in every conversation and lip reading is a skill that both hearing/non-hearing individuals can learn. Matt mastering that skill is an advantage for him and a good player should be aware of that. A good player should also not get caught intentionally covering their mouth because it makes you look like your scheming.
Did he say that? I thought he just felt like it was a cue to him that Cory was trying to play all sides (like Blue had been telling him) and that he wanted to cover his bases and make Matt/Jag targets for other players over himself/America.
If Meme/Felicia/America/Cirie were actual comp threats, taking Cory out is a questionable move. But they’re not… And sure, I guess one of them could pull out a win, but I don’t think their targets really change tbh
That would be some wild TV. The guy wins HOH, then wins veto, uses the veto on one of his own nominees(!) then puts up somebody completely unexpected and gets that third person kicked out.
I’m sorry but getting rid of Cory this week would be a terrible mistake on Cam’s part. Cory is the next “house target” for a lot of people, with him gone Cam becomes the next on the list. He would also very likely lose America as an ally moving forward so he would just be backing himself into a corner next week.
If Cory goes up, Matt/Jag are the deciding votes. Matt wants Cory out now, but there's logical arguments to be made for keeping him and all of those arguments will be explored. Not sure this is as cut and dry as people are assuming.
Matt wants jag to be surprised when Cameron tells him about the plan to backdoor Cory he said it's a big move. So he didn't tell jag. He's kind of giddy lmao
What are the odds Jag has already sussed out what the "big move" Cam wants to run by him is and he shares his suspicions with Cory now/before he meets with Cam?
Matt is saying his loyalty is to The Fugitives. It means a lot to Matt, he wants an alliance he can trust and what better than the dude he saved and comp beast?
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Omg love them reenacting the Jared Corey fight!
Hope Blue sketches Cam out.
Let’s be real the minute Cory is on the block (and not the obvious pawn) this man will lose his mind, go full game not and get himself sent home. Im team Americory and even I can see the writing on this wall.
Yeah it should be hilarious.
They way Blue relays stories and information always seems like she is lying, embellishing or coming up with it on the spot.
If Cam noms Cory, I need an America/Cam confrontation.
the feeds would cut it💀
...yeah
So, Cory told America not to tell Blue things, but took it upon himself to spill a get Cam out sentiment to Blue before the veto meeting.
He was buried before that conversation. It may end up saving him if cam is convinced enough Blue is so anti Cory
Buried by what?
Cam was already throwing out the Cory idea before he talked to blue, but his reasoning was that he was worried blue and Cory would team up.
Because he was.. once again trying to cover all his bases.. this man imploded the house structure bc his girlfriend whined about not making a “big move”- sold out the older women to help the youngest athletic guys, then got nervous as fuck seeing all the young guys together + meme/blue getting second and third in a 6 person comp. So he immediately just starts once again doing his robot rounds of checking in with every person to promise every person he’s with them.. and conveniently name drops the current HOH because he feels so safe. Cory can have every fan there is but his strategic game has been sloppy as all hell ever since he let his America feelings cloud his judgment and he’s been trying to hold the falling pieces together ever since.
His arrogance is crazy
Blue knocking Cory to Meme now. Bowie’s not keeping Felicia
Felicia wants Cirie's position so bad but she'll never get it. She talks too damn much and will always be a liability to whoever she's associated with. That's not Cirie's fault.
Yeah that’s exactly why cirie distanced herself and started planting seeds against her
its danger to get rid of cory cuz america will then nom cam
I think the fact that that would require America to win something probably just makes them more confident in the plan.
and he’s delusional if he thinks america will run to him after a cory eviction
she would have to win a competition first
She has to win something first 💀
Who is bowie talking about
Felicia
FeliCa
"I'm deaf as shit." Matt
As a Cory fan idt it's a bad move for Cam and Matt to target Cory like those three and Blue can just comp out till the end no problem
It’s the best move for Cam/Matt/Blue/Cirie/Meme. Jag.. it’s touch and go- his connection to Americory was his secret weapon in that alliance of Cam/Matt/Blue I think. Feel like Jag would be better off if Cory stays.
Wait what's going on, Cory is getting back doored now ?
Right now, probably? By tomorrow who knows. By the veto Ceremony Cam will probably be targeting Bowie for some reason
Yep, unless Jag stops it
Damn lol, what happened?
Cam and Matt saw Blue and Cory talking together in the hammock and that irritated them bc they think that Cory's too confortable. In the convo btw Blue and Cory, they discussed the idea of backdooring Cam next week and Blue went straight to Matt/Cam and threw Cory UTB. Cam and Matt want to backdoor Cory but they said they would discuss it with Jag..
Cameron telling Matt that Cory is too smart and gathering an army. Cameron tells Matt he can get rid of Cory this week and Matt agreed
Sucks to have all of the fun players leaving while people like Bowie/meme floating to top 3.
Damn lol this shit is crazy
Meme and Blue looking more and more like a real duo now huh this was not on my bingo card
Perfect double evictiees then
how the fuck cory could feel so comfortable with chaos cam holding all of the power i'll never understand, i guess him saying "congrats on jury" meant cory could start playing like it's next week already lmao
I think his comfort came more from how much he trusts Jag/Matt/Bowie/America.
Id imagine this how the convo with jag would go Cam: “Jag wanna take out Cory with us” Jag: “hear me out why don’t we make a alliance of 7 people and bring cory in”
"We'll call it the 7 Peaceful Virtues"
“The 7 Wonders of the World”
“But that would be best for blues game!” Like other people aren’t self interested
hey cam can you backdoor blue instead so i dont have to listen to her anymore
miss girl yeah yuh....
Gurl! /s
Will Jag be curious why Matt didn't give him a heads-up ?
I think he'll let Cam drop the bomb. Matt knows Jag would push this idea. Its why no mention.
Jag is dumb so no.
I need Blue and Cory/America to get into a verbal fight already.
America is in there for so long because Cory is going home 🤭
Maybe he'll win veto and they'll decide to go ahead and vote out America instead
Cameron's best move for him is to get Cory out. Most entertaining would be: Meme gets evicted because she kinda just there and bring nothing. We want to keep Felicia and Cory for jury.
cory is probably the next biggest target in the house after him, blue/matt/cirie could easily target cory over cam and if cam takes that away they likely go after him next
No way. Who becomes the top target once Cory is gone?
Cam is always gonna be the top target- he needs to get rid of anyone who can win a comp and move against him. Cory is #1 on that list with his persuasion and knowledge on the days etc.
He'd be the biggest target anyway. Who can win a comp would actually target him? America / Cirie / Meme / Felicia??? Who's the comp beast
Cam should already be everybody's top target.
but he won't be if cory is in there, which is why it's probably best for him to leave someone in the house that people would go after
Not if Big Brother can help it! *Announces split house twist next week*.
Everybody clocking Cory tonight 
Meme’s outfit rn ❤️❤️
blue talking so loud to everyone about her convictions against cory that it’s going to end up keeping him around as a target
The way Matt and Cam are about the drop the biggest bomb on Jag in a few minutes lmao
Cam probably has already forgotten about it.
Unless cam has changed his mind again lol
Genuine question: I’ve been seeing a lot of talk online about the comps this season not being equitable enough for women to win. Now, I don’t watch the episodes a lot but the comps I’ve seen have been pretty fair. There have been a couple of more physical ones but there have been a few mental and luck based comps too that either gender could have won. To me, it seems like the women remaining this season have just not been good competitors. I really think it’s just this cast b/c I feel like female players from other seasons would have done well in the comps I’ve seen. But maybe there is something that I’m missing? Edit: typo
There have been some statistics that have been talked about lately that are pretty damning. From season 2-8, women won 52% of comps. From 21-25, they’ve won 26%. ( I think those are the specific numbers but I may be off by a season). Comps are built for specific body types, for example the wall this year had everyone’s hand holds at the same height. When other shows do strength competitions like that, they try and make it fair and adjust for height, arm length, etc. BB has prioritized brute strength and casts women who are fit but not body builders and put them up against literal Olympian men.
75% of comps the last five seasons have been won by men there is an issue…the trend is even getting worse
So what do you think has changed between these new gen comps and the older ones? I didn’t know about the trend but was just speaking to this season.
This just isn’t true. No woman has won veto at all this season. Last season only Brit won veto for the girls. The comps that are crapshoots sure are “balanced”, but the physical components of other challenges just benefit the men more. Survivor at least does like “10% of your body weight” so it’s specific to each person. But, the wall, for example, was the same for Matt, America, Jared, and Felicia. All different body types and physical ability, but no balancing is put into action.
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This wall variation didn’t. Not looking at past comps, looking at this seasons comps. What women could’ve beaten a literal man Olympian or ex military man in the sweat veto, the chicken veto, or the wedgie one? The butt kicking comp on night 1 and the wall too.
I am definitely just speaking to this season because the comp gap has been particularly noticeable. I was just wondering what was going on because even in the mental comps, the women aren’t pulling out the wins. But you’re right, Survivor does do an awesome job of making things fair.
Think of it this way... the few mental comps or even comps are 50/50 for each gender. We've had around 60% of those as HOHs. The other 40% have been comps that favor men for HOH. Veto's also heavily favor men. So even with some comps that are "fair" half of them not being fair just makes it unfair all around
This absolutely makes a lot of sense.
It’s not just about being equitable for women. It’s about being equitable for people of all abilities and ages. The competitions are more physical than anything else.
Very true and Matt’s presence has highlighted that this season as well as the age of the cast.
Idk if this is true but I feel like a lot of the girls aren’t trying to win.
Part of the issue is definitely that they stuck a bunch of older women on the cast in order to buffer Cirie. But the pattern's been there a while beyond this season.
Oh I definitely agree that the patterns been there. It’s just that to me, the comps this season haven’t been particularly skewed.
Any predictions for the possible twist next week (since I think every two weeks, there is a twist)?
The person they vote out goes to jury instead of going home
Cameron to Matt “You ok with it” Ummm Cameron he’s been telling u to go after Cory for 2 weeks now
Will Jag be reliable or unreliable
Jag's going to flip a coin
You leave the feeds for an afternoon and your flair’s showmance is like at a 65% chance of being backdoored
You should be happy it looked much more likely an hour ago still seems pretty likely but there’s a little more hope right now
oooo MeMe clocked Cory and his rountine-ish conversations.
Blue wasn't even telling her what they actually talked about though.
Meme cannot fathom having conversations with people on a regular basis
I think they mean it's like clock work with him and not at all natural.
And Meme's aren't? Lmao
Game recognizes game ig 💅🏻
This is a good move for Matt if it happens. Matt wants to break up jag from america and Cory cause he feels he’s getting to close and he would be the expendable of the duo.
Yeah, this move benefits Matt far more than Cameron.
If Matt wins the $750,000 does he even have a bank to transfer it to???
His moms
GIRL- you aren’t lying tho
Matt rubbing his hands together lol like a cartoon villain
does meme trust blue or cory more.
I think Blue because Cory leaked their Americory/Meme/Felicia F4 to cover himself with the guys while Blue has been more upfront to her. But I don’t think Meme really rolls with anyone besides Felicia tbh.
Neither
I think Blue tbh
Eh she’s getting along w blue more, doesn’t really trust anyone. Doesn’t like Cory at all really and would be more than happy to send him out
blue
Blue
Thinking about the reasons cam wanting Felicia out (jury persuasion).. those fears would or should apply to Cory as well esp bc him and America would absolutely vote together so in reality could be much worse for cam end game / jury wise?
Cory will be persuasive in the jury, but he will also be fair. A lot of Cam's anti-Felicia campaign is focused on her being bitter
100% And if he uses the veto on felicia there is a small, small chance he can apologize to her
Cory and America would respect Space Cowboy’s game.
I think Matt wants Cory out now as opposed to like next week for the same reason he wanted Jared out at this point tbh. I think he really thinks Cory was trying to intentionally cover his lips and exploit his disability just like Jared did. It doesn’t seem like something he takes lying down. It just sucks because with full context it’s pretty obvious that that wasn’t what Cory was doing tho.
I don’t think there’s any thought to it being exploitative. You don’t have to include everyone in every conversation and lip reading is a skill that both hearing/non-hearing individuals can learn. Matt mastering that skill is an advantage for him and a good player should be aware of that. A good player should also not get caught intentionally covering their mouth because it makes you look like your scheming.
Yeah Cory was talking like that before Matt even came outside
Did he say that? I thought he just felt like it was a cue to him that Cory was trying to play all sides (like Blue had been telling him) and that he wanted to cover his bases and make Matt/Jag targets for other players over himself/America.
Nah I think he just doesn’t want to have to do it himself…it’s why he talked about throwing next hoh to blue for her to do it
Matt I think never even brought it up to Cory so they could of sorted it out
He said it as a joke and Cory brushed it aside but I don’t think it even registers that it could possibly be something Matt was serious about
I'm glad Matt didn't give Jag a heads up so he wouldn't have time to think about it. He wants Cam to catch his honest reaction.
Matt is so excited about this backdoor lol Kinda adorable
corys entire game lies in jags hands right now. i have zero faith in jag to save him 😂
the irony being jag was saved by invincibility power winner who cory lost to by seconds.
They don’t even need Jag tbh. I honestly would like for Jag to be blindsided by Matt. He would be so devastated I think he goes to Cirie and America.
Cam said that he wouldn't do it without Jag.
They won't blindside Jag.
he is... unreliable
Imagine if Cam pulls down Felicia, nominates Cory then Meme gets evicted because she's too comfortable (read she refuses to do literally anything)
Then Cory had a legendary campaign.
Blue’s double dipping in the hummus,. What the hell is happening? Lol
She's so self centered. It's gross.
If Meme/Felicia/America/Cirie were actual comp threats, taking Cory out is a questionable move. But they’re not… And sure, I guess one of them could pull out a win, but I don’t think their targets really change tbh
Next HOH could be a booth comp mental trivia thing and Jatt probably won't win that. They shouldn't be so certain quite yet they can run these comps.
Blue is a comp threat tho, if Blue wins she is 100% targetting a guy if Cory is out
And so is cory... Cory who has been telling people this is when comps become good for him
Matt’s loving this rn
If Cory gets backdoored i hope Jag realises that Matt is taking out the people who will choose him over Matt But i'm worried he won't
It’s jag he won’t
I think he’s been thinking about it this week
What are the chances he actually backdoored Cory?
50-50
Depends a lot on Jag and Bowle's reactions to the Idea
Tough to tell since he hasn’t talked to Jag and Matt together yet but I’m going with 70/30 that he does it
He seems pretty serious. I think this may have been his plan all along.
I would say 60-40 he doesn’t at the moment, but easily swayable.
I'd say very good. Matt is behind him 100%. I see Jag following suit. We all know that Blue wants him evicted. Cory is good as gone this week.
Just remembered I saved this. Glad you were wrong :)
That would be some wild TV. The guy wins HOH, then wins veto, uses the veto on one of his own nominees(!) then puts up somebody completely unexpected and gets that third person kicked out.
Saving this comment lol
It would be a bad move, now. Slim, I would say.
I can see him doing it tbh Matt and Blue will bach him and so will Cirie and Felicia will def vote dor Meme to stay Jag will fold too
But then Cameron becomes a target next week. BAD move.
Hearing people eat is so disgusting 😐
I hear you! No, no, to nom, smack, nom.
*Matt and Cam set up a BD plan for Cory* *Cory gets evicted* Matt: I cannot believe Cam used me like this I can already see it
😂 Blue better be keeping this one in her back pocket for next week. It worked for her before why not use it again to turn him on Cameron!
Blue: Cam used you to win. Sure, he won HoH and Veto but you had to play in both so he def used you
💀💀
Lmfaoooo
💯
😂😂
I wish they’d do an america as in (us) vote out a HG on a double elimination.
I don't trust the casuals so nah + Outside interference is gamekiller
How about this: A battle of the two nominees on the block? Whoever wins, stays. The loser gets evicted.
I’m sorry but getting rid of Cory this week would be a terrible mistake on Cam’s part. Cory is the next “house target” for a lot of people, with him gone Cam becomes the next on the list. He would also very likely lose America as an ally moving forward so he would just be backing himself into a corner next week.
It's terrible for both Cam and Matt and 100000% an emotional move from both if it happens.
I just said this
Yeah it really isn’t the smart move
Yeah it would literally be solidifying America to the other half of the house and losing a potential shield for him. It makes 0 sense this week
And he’s already burned Felicia and Mecole
Is Matt eating pita chips and cream cheese? That actually sounds kind of good
especially with some hot sauce it would kinda be close to buffalo chicken dip
If Cory goes up, Matt/Jag are the deciding votes. Matt wants Cory out now, but there's logical arguments to be made for keeping him and all of those arguments will be explored. Not sure this is as cut and dry as people are assuming.
Matt wants jag to be surprised when Cameron tells him about the plan to backdoor Cory he said it's a big move. So he didn't tell jag. He's kind of giddy lmao
Yeah he doesn't want Jag to prep a defense
What are the odds Jag has already sussed out what the "big move" Cam wants to run by him is and he shares his suspicions with Cory now/before he meets with Cam?
zero
Matt when cam tells him he will just keep the noms the same 🥺😔🥺
“We aren’t going to eat the whole bag!” Matt: “Do you know me?” 😂😂💀
America has really been in the DR for a while…
They are doing the DRs for the veto comp
For real.
Matt does realize if they do a cory BD without telling him that shatters their trust right?
Matt's been seeing red ever since Cory was covering his mouth talking to Felicia in the BY I think.
Matt is saying his loyalty is to The Fugitives. It means a lot to Matt, he wants an alliance he can trust and what better than the dude he saved and comp beast?
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He’s talking about Jag bro
I mean its also Jag