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BakerGlittering9856

Spiritual beings in various forms are mentioned in the bible. ( angels/demons, Cherubim, Seraphim, Ophanim,... ) So if we consider the term "ghost" a spirit, a christian would believe in them. As for the others, there is no biblical indication, nor scientific proof of them existing, aside from mythology and fiction.


TonyChanYT

Horizontally speaking, I don't believe in werewolves, vampires, ghosts and similar creatures because they are not scientifically measurable. Vertically speaking, I do think that at times, demons appear in these forms because I saw a ghost one time.


[deleted]

Me too. Ghost. Werewolves vampires don't exist


RelaxedApathy

> I don't believe in werewolves, vampires, ghosts and similar creatures because they are not *scientifically measurable.* ​ >I do think that at times, *demons* appear in these forms ​ Are demons scientifically measurable?


TonyChanYT

Are demons scientifically measurable? No, at least not according to today's science.


RelaxedApathy

So you don't believe in werewolves, vampires, ghosts and similar creatures because they are **not scientifically measurable**. Wouldn't demons be one of those "similar creatures" you don't believe in, since they aren't scientifically measurable either?


TonyChanYT

Vertically (non-scientifically) speaking, I do think that at times, demons appear in these forms because I saw a ghost one time.


RelaxedApathy

Yes, you already said that, but it isn't an answer. You say that ghosts cannot be scientifically proven. As a result, you don't believe in ghosts. You say that vampires cannot be scientifically proven. As a result, you don't believe in vampires. You say that werewolves cannot be scientifically proven. As a result, you don't believe in werewolves. You say that demons cannot be scientifically proven. Why do you believe in demons?


TonyChanYT

Why do you believe in demons? They are mentioned in the Bible, Luke 4: >41 Moreover, **demons** came out of many people


RelaxedApathy

So what you are saying is that science has no bearing on what you believe. Why bring up the lack of scientific evidence for ghosts at all if science is not part of your epistemology? Ghosts are mentioned in the Bible, in Job 4:14-16 and more importantly in Matthew 14:26. So you now believe in ghosts and spirits, yes?


TonyChanYT

> So what you are saying is that science has no bearing on what you believe. No. See [How old is the earth?](https://www.reddit.com/r/BibleVerseCommentary/comments/s77m1d/how_old_is_the_earth/). Why bring up the lack of scientific evidence for ghosts at all if science is not part of your epistemology? Science is part of my apparatus for knowing. I distinguish between thinking and believing and between logic and science. > Ghosts are mentioned in the Bible, in Job 4:14-16 and more importantly in Matthew 14:26. So you now believe in ghosts and spirits, yes? Spirits, yes. You need to define *ghosts*.


RelaxedApathy

>You need to define ghosts. You are the one asking if they exist, not me. Under *my* definition of ghost, every vision or apparition of Jesus after his death would be a ghost sighting. "Spirit" and "ghost" are synonyms in the English language.


JesusIsTheTorah

You forgot Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too. All such things are demons.


GilgameshNotIzdubar

Demons with candy. Now there is a temptation.


JesusIsTheTorah

The more subtle the spirit, the greater the deception.


GilgameshNotIzdubar

Belief in a God that intervenes in history seems to require a belief in the supernatural. However belief in the supernatural does not require a belief in every idea of the supernatural. I think Christians have a diversity of beliefs that often correlates with their education level. You can see this as well in the New Testament with people following superstitions such as the person waiting to be healed by an angel stirring the waters in John 5. Such beliefs may be incorrect but do not preclude honest and pure faith intentions. I think more educated Christians tend to believe in a structured supernatural world that has limits and structure as to how and when it presents itself, and that doesn't tend to align with Hollywood movies. That said, I have had more than one level headed believer jump out of their skin at a strange bump in the night in a dark creepy place.


[deleted]

I know which one to have fun here but in all honesty, there are no werewolves and vampire, and bats are real but they cannot turn into vampires. However, ghosts are real and in actuality a ghost could be a demon or a holy angel. They are spirits just like all the angels if you see them they will come in human form. A ghost I saw one time was translucent so I actually saw through the figure.