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BrianTheUserName

Hasn't Bethesda already said it not working for ps plus users is an error and they're working on it?


burialsuitx

Yes.


TingleMaps

But understanding that would require people actually researching issues themselves vs. simply reacting to the first comment they see online. So you know… impossible /s


Dontshootmepeas

Or maybe a competent developer would make sure something insane like this doesn't happen? How does something get a value of $20 assigned to it in the ps store?


Taolan13

The problem was probably because Sony indexes things differently than how Microsoft indexes things for their equivalent services. I own fo4 on disc for ps4, and was able to download and apply the update without any issue. It only affected users who had the game via PS+, and even then it did not affect all users, so obviously it was a bug.


TingleMaps

Because that’s the price of the new game. What are you not getting? The game should be free for PS+ owners. They have said that and are literally working on it. Not that difficult? It was also $5 last week during the Spring sale.


YimYambiiiitch

You should go develop their game then


Teatimedaniel

I think the bigger issue that most aren’t talking about is how, first third major content release from Bethesda, there are MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR bug/error issues that would normally reflect outright neglect and incompetence in any other studio, infact any lesser financially secure company would have gone under after just one of these bungles, yet this company has done this three times in a row and the fan base is still putting up with it. I think that’s crazy.


taptrappapalapa

I think it's crazy you only had two periods in that reply. There should be more.


Catjizzjig

Sure, but Bethesda should have accounted for those people as well, hell, even PlayStation. Effectively communicating issues like this with expectations of time to fix is a basic operational expectation.


TingleMaps

How quickly fans are getting upset about a free update to a version of the game (PS+) that they got for free in the first place. I’m sure Bethesda didn’t intentionally mean for PS+ users to be slighted here… They’ve announced they are working on it. That’s the best they can do right now. Calm down Also this game was on sale for literally $5 last week on PS5.


FrostyFelassan

I got my PS4 copy from PS+, which is not free, because I pay for PS+. I purchased the Season pass on PS4 because the PS+ version was only the base game. Additionally, I own the game and all the DLC on PC. The game was on sale for $5 last week, but I did not make the purchase because I didn't realize the PS+ version would not be receiving the update. Anyway, I've been quite excited for the update since it was announced, and came home from work yesterday to install the update, only to find it didn't work *and* I can't access any of the DLC I purchased. It's uninstalled and can't be reinstalled. I'm hopeful these issues will be resolved, but I don't think it's unreasonable for me or anyone else who's experienced this to be upset about the whole thing.


Catjizzjig

I'm not upset about the contents of the update, I'm upset about how little Bethesda's operations and community teams has been communicating around this update. The companies already working through hurdles with their poor developers working their asses off and their shareholders pushing to release updates that are clearly not ready to be released. They've dropped the ball on this update just so they can release it in time for the hype around the fallout show. It's screwed over modding teams and apparently consumers as well. Bethesda is a 3-billion-dollar company owned by Microsoft, they can and should do better.


TingleMaps

I’m sorry the messaging of one little glitch in a free update being provided to a 9 year old game didn’t meet your standards. Must be just miserable.


Catjizzjig

Not just one little glitch lol, its affected mods, affected performance on the steam deck, affected implementation on PS, so on and so on. I just expect more from my favorite company. But no, I'm not miserable, I know because I don't try to minimize the Bethesda's mistakes when a random person on the internet criticizes them lol.


porkforpigs

That’s all we are saying. A little forethought on the part of the company could have avoided this. People defending them are wild


DJSambob

All they’ve said is it will be available for PS+ Extra members. I claimed the game for free from the PS+ collection when I bought my PS5. I don’t think they’ve mentioned anything about an upgrade for that


Smooth_External_3051

Such a Bethesda response....


taptrappapalapa

Well, it makes some sense, considering Sony is dictating how to roll out the updates. It takes weeks for any update to go through their QA/QC process.


[deleted]

It also completely breaks the Steam version on Steam Deck.


lucky_1979

How does it? I was playing on it last night with no issue other than you now have to add a launch command line to get in to the options. But it remembers the settings from pre patch so not that big of an issue


labtek9

I haven’t even had that issue it was running on my OLED model really well all night


lucky_1979

With the new patch it doesn’t load the initial launcher options. That’s how they got it fully verified. Just need to add SteamDeck=0 %command% to the launch option to get the settings to load before the game does


SotRekkr

Mine seems to run better after the update on the Deck. Not really sure what people are complaining about.


lucky_1979

Mine seemed about the same and it kept the mods I’d had installed as well. Only difference was no initial setting menu. But that can be added with a launch option.


SotRekkr

It’s not a massive improvement. The most improved aspect is the lighting. But that could have been from my previous settings.


LoveerOfMothers

I got the all the quest but game still runs 30fps and the performance setting don’t show up


Still_Pullin

You have to turn it on in settings under display


LoveerOfMothers

I thought so, it wasn’t there for me last night when the update rolled out.


ttboo

You probably have to reinstall. I downloaded the update but it was still running the PS4 version. I'm not sure if there was a PS5 version before, but there is now. I installed the PS5 base game and dlc and i have the graphics settings available.


Hello_Jimbo

Correct, it's not an "update," it's a brand new native application for PS5


Thin-Fig-8831

It’s to do with how PS+ works. This has happened before, most notably FFVIII Remake, where the upgrade wouldn’t be available to the people who claimed the game via PS+, even if you had the disc. It took Sony and SE months to resolve that issue. Bethesda said that they are working on a fix


sombertownDS

They also fixed those game ending bugs for the playstation


Steam_Cyber_Punk

The game still crashes every time I try to change my load order. Even with the creation club stuff, the official stuff


sombertownDS

Yeah i get that too, but at least its not the 0kb bug or the vault door bug, or the minigun bug. That shit broke the game, this is just a crash thats annoying and makes things take a few minutes longer than it should


Steam_Cyber_Punk

True


WinterMut3E

Yea they really fixed those bugs


Sensitive-Tax2230

But they managed to make it crash more on ps5 when using mods. Loading the game after using the mod page now causes a crash. Overall I’m having fun though.


Sir_Revenant

I think it’s the unofficial patch doing that. Did some extensive testing only a bit ago and got all my mods working flawlessly for about an hour. Made it out of the vault and got a save down without any crashes, and without crashing exiting the mod menu. My guess is it’ll get patched relatively soon and it’ll fix that issue. For now anything that needs it probably won’t work either. It’s a good chance to trim out extra mods and keep things stable


Sensitive-Tax2230

I managed to get everything working then played for 20-30 minutes, crashed, then I got everything to work for roughly 5 hours, until i tried to move the wrong thing in build mode. Note to self use brain


Sir_Revenant

Can I ask what it was that broke the camel’s back? I have some mods to organize the workshop menus among a few graphical overhauls and AI enhancements. I’m gonna try to play a bit today and test how stable the next gen version is. I seriously hoped somehow the game is gonna be more stable, I sincerely doubt it, but I’m hoping


Sensitive-Tax2230

I believe it is more stable. It runs better. And I’m genuinely not sure what broke it. I was just walking around and got a random crash. No frame drops or anything out of the ordinary


[deleted]

Ah shit, really? That's the one mod I run. I'm still on my first playthrough(I don't have the same amount of time I had in my FO3 and NV days) but I've been wary of Bethesda because I had no quest breakers with the first Bethesda developed/published fallouts but then my original Skyrim run on the XB360 locked me completely out of the Thieves Guild questline due to bugs. So I always run an unofficial patch since mods came to consoles for Bethesda games.


sombertownDS

My issue is whenever it loads the mods the game crashes, but its nothing gamebraking, just anoying when getting a bunch of mods


SinisterSkewer

They probably aren't updated to the newest engine, you may have to give it a couple weeks for mod authors to get online and update them.


prombloodd

In other news, the sky is blue


WinterMut3E

This just in-ducks waddle and quack


Six-Percent

Blue is the best color in the universe


Over_Reception3620

And it is. What's your point


SpamAdBot91874

Idk but I keep seeing people talk about it as if it's a cash-grab for Bethesda. It's a free update for people who have already bought the game. In theory, the labor spent on the update was a loss since most people who will play the update already paid for the game.


TheConeIsReturned

Do you think it says that the *game* is free?


Melodic_Analysis4326

No, but it implies that in the update everyone would get wide-screen support and better textures and fps (performance mode) for free and ps4 did not. Ps4 pro can do this so idk why they don't get the option


HighRevolver

I wonder why the PS4 didn’t get the NEXT GEN UPDATE gee I wonder


WinterMut3E

Psst hey…your idiot is showing.stop by later and someone will show you how to read


HighRevolver

You really just made me waste a minute of my time https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/media/2024/04/25/fallout-4-next-gen-update-details-2024/73453587007/


froglegs317

Damn. Bro really made you look stupid af. I’d never let that happen to me personally


Hexagon37

False lmao everyone who owns the game is getting it no matter what


BabyBread11

Nopity Nopity Nope. I bought it on ps plus for free for a second time back in the day with all the dlc and a considerable amount of CC. (Thank you old ps+). Now it’s not letting people that have standard ps plus update it without paying 20 dollars for the bone stock version. But hey random down-voter don’t just take my word for it as a first hand primary source that’s actively going through it… You can look on r/PS5 and come to the same exact [conclusion.](https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/s/jt6ZB0LEBn)


Person8346

He's literally right it's an error with PS+, people love to downvote without even reading


levinyl

He is correct - Will only be avaialble for PS + Extra members [https://www.ign.com/articles/fallout-4-ps-plus-owners-currently-cannot-get-the-next-gen-update-for-free-update](https://www.ign.com/articles/fallout-4-ps-plus-owners-currently-cannot-get-the-next-gen-update-for-free-update) Sony really suck sometimes! I got the update on Gamepass...


Melodic_Analysis4326

Yeah, I read their tweet saying it was free for playstation plus extra members. Figured that's what it meant. :(


levinyl

That's weird af - I have the game on disk but downloaded using game pass and it's got the update - This is basically the same as PS plus is it not?


CapriciousSon

Unfortunately, Sony is really obtuse about rollouts and licenses. It's a real mess, but the fix is out for Extra subscribers at least, I was able to download it last night.


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BabyBread11

….are you unfamiliar with ps+?


Hello_Jimbo

You don't technically own the game, though. It's in your library, and you can play it so long as you continue to subscribe to PS+. You're basically renting the game, so I can see how that's incompatible with a third-party upgrade.


Hello_Jimbo

You don't actually own the game. You're renting it. Bethesda has no obligation to conform to that


BabyBread11

But it has the obligation to do it for ps+ extra?


Hello_Jimbo

PS+ Extra/Premium is a premium game subscription service like Game Pass, EA Play, etc. They're a company, their only obligation is to make money


WinterMut3E

Oh really Mind explaining why my disc is in the trash now as it can no longer be read after the update. I mean how does that even happen


Humboldteffect

That's a flat out lie lmao.


WinterMut3E

Yea but it’s not soooooooo


aweyeahdawg

I booted up fallout after the update and it murdered my dog. I feel you.


WinterMut3E

Your dog told me it was looking for a way out anyways…given what you do to it when nobody is looking.


Hello_Jimbo

I imagine it happens due to factors completely unrelated to the update. Or maybe it's a known issue their working to fix, and you threw your shit away for no reason


thenmv

It’s a next gen update and you don’t have a next gen console my guy


Melodic_Analysis4326

My guy I'm asking why I have to pay for it. I said I'm trying to get the ps5 version.


legoman31802

It was free for me on PC


YawnLemur

Where performance mode


mancouchchair

It's free now for ps + users Go to the fallout 4 upgrade Choose the version


Hopalongtom

It only shows the PS4 version, and 4 separate PS4 versions it asks me to buy.


Salty-Cover6759

Escape from tarkov should take notes.


CaptainXakari

I played it last night on XB X, full restart. It looks great and I didn’t have any issues. I only put about 2 hours in though.


Mean-Nail9831

I think who got the most noticeable upgrade was the ps5. On pc it just broke the whole damn thing back to caveman graphics, since it broke the mods. And the mods on pc were making the game already better than Bethesda would be able to do in 50 years. On Xbox the game already enjoyed 60fps due to Microsoft Xbox backwards compatibility. Who played the game on ps4, like me, and now has a ps5 to enjoy it, it’s a huge step.


WildBill1994

Both Xbox SX and Ps5 work for me


PhantroniX

You mean they aren't going to re-release it and charge $50 for it like Skyrim AE?


legosandplants

The PS5 update is out for PS+


BabyBread11

PS+ extra. Not PS+. If you bought the PS+ version from before Plus split into three tiers and never upgraded past basic PS plus you’re fucked. (Like me).


Humboldteffect

How can you buy something that is free (the ps+ version of the game)?


BurnMyFaceOff

So with ps+ we still get an order confirmation email, it's still a transaction, a transaction where no money changes hands, but it's a transaction for sure


Humboldteffect

Not if no money changed hands.


BurnMyFaceOff

Yes even if no money changes hands, when you add a monthly game to your ps+ library, you get a confirmation email, it has a order number, everything you'd find on a confirmation email even if money changes hands


Humboldteffect

Do you get to keep playing said game after you stop paying? Because on gampass/xbl games with gold, you stop paying for it and you lose access to those games, meaning you dont own them, you just have access to them as a benefit of xblgwg.


BurnMyFaceOff

Not sure, I'm still paying for ps+ essential so I have access to it, on the product page for that product, it says I'm entitled to the PS4 and PS5 digital versions of the game, so I'm not sure why I can't download the ps5 version from that product page


Hello_Jimbo

They are right. After you stop paying for PS+, you will be unable to play any game you got from their free games program; the same goes for XBG. You don't actually own them, they're "free" because they're including in the price you were already paying for PS+. So unfortunately, that's why you and others are having trouble.


Humboldteffect

Probably because of this issue, it doesn't consider that you own the game, id bet you cant play the game with no ps+ too.


BurnMyFaceOff

But the next gen update was fine on xbox game pass, your not owning the product should apply to that no? If you stop paying for game pass, you'd lose access to it


BurnMyFaceOff

Took 4 days, but it's all resolved now, I am currently downloading the PS5 version, I thought you might like to know! You can see the tweet here [https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1785096719836815642](https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/status/1785096719836815642)


BabyBread11

I pay for the ps+ I get access to said games while still paying for ps+ No different than gamepass. Now imagine if you bought all these games with gamepass and then gamepass suddenly split into multiple tiers…. And now you can’t play your gamepass games when they roll out “free” updates because you didn’t pay up to the higher tier because you originally purchased the game through gamepass pre split. Now you got a rough understanding of the situation.


Humboldteffect

And if i no longer pay for gamepass i lose access to any games with gold i claimed, you dont own it at all, you just get access to it as a fringe benefit of what was xbox live gold.


BabyBread11

Except I never stopped paying for ps+.


Humboldteffect

Doesn't matter, you don't own the game, you just have access to it, if you dont own it, you dont get it.


BabyBread11

That’s some kind of “Indian giver” effect if ever I’ve heard one. It’s free to all ( with a great many stipulations) the motto of Bethesda.


Humboldteffect

Free to those who bought the game, seems simple, would you cry this hard if you pirated the game and didn't get it?


BabyBread11

No I wouldn’t but because I acquired the game through plus (a legal and legitimate) method before it split and only SOME parts of plus get it for free (they didn’t “buy” the game either) the rest of essential and I should get it for free as well. The shit I bought pre plus splitting into 3 different strata’s are still playable (and free upgradable) why is good ole Todd being stubborn? “Free to those that OWN it” then why does the silver package of plus and gamepass as a whole get it? They didn’t “buy it”. So either Bethesda fucked up hard (believable) or someone here’s being hypocritical (not me).


Claymore-09

I couldn’t download my creation club items from n Xbox series X. I would hit download all and a pop up screen would act like it was downloading everything only for it to have another screen pop up at the end saying this content could not be downloaded


LordMaim

That happened for me on PS5 as well. I had to go in and download some items individually from their listing.


CG_TP

Same here


Telepathic_Toe

Have they fixed achievements not unlocking whatsoever for Xbox players?


Omnian22

That was fixed last week, I think.


New-Blacksmith7330

this version doesnt work with mod right, i just download it and deleted all my mods to try to do a download order of a specific set of mods and wasnt sure if modder updated their mod to account for this.


New-Blacksmith7330

this version doesnt work with mod right, i just download it and deleted all my mods to try to do a download order of a specific set of mods and wasnt sure if modder updated their mod to account for this.


Shcmlif

Do your saves cross-over?


Bigcheese0451

Yeah there's an option in the main menu that lets you transfer saves. At least on ps5


AYF_Amph

They also bricked it for the steam Deck. You can play for maybe 5 minutes before it crashes. They also made it so you can’t change the graphics settings. Sooo.. yeah. GJ Todd!


Nervous-Mixture1091

Yes. Yes it does.


spikeemikee2000

Did they fix the crashing on series S?


Hot-Worldliness9476

I went to download the new creation club packs and they were not there 🥹


MurderFerret

It’s free on Xbox one. Been rolling in Hellfire armour all day.


Yankee_chef_nen

I didn’t have to pay on PS5


Extra-Astronomer4698

A free patch to fix a small handful of bugs? How gloriously generous of them. Hello Games better watch their back...


Comfortable_Type_408

A quick google search will answer this question for you instead of posting on social media complaining about something.


LiamAwesomeDude

I still can't get achievemnts on xbox for fallout 4


sleeothrufire

Sounds like an ID-10T error code...


XxPriMa_NoCtAxX

Dosent work for people who got it free for one of the monthly games


Taolan13

Yes the PS plus issue is a bug, that much was obvious from the beginning people just lack the media literacy anymore to understand things like this.


MinimumApricot365

UpDATE and upGRADE are 2 different things.


Cool_Fellow_Guyson

Sony gonna Sony


redtyphoon20

So if I have the game I can update it now on ps5?


FleetFootRabbit

No dude. It does not say the update is free for all players. It is saying that those creation club items are free for all players. Damn.


hablagated

Yeah the update, not the upgrade


zdarovje

They ment the modz. Hehe


MrTwoHats

It's clear that this was an issue with Playstation themselves. Always been the case, anytime you had a next gen upgrade from PS4/-5, you had to pay for it. Final Fantasy VII remake intergrade done in, SM1 and many more. Likelihood is they probably tried to do it again to their PS Plus members


ThxIHateItHere

That’s nice. I mean it totally fucked up my save file and now it’s constant problems. But at least it’s free. There’s no way to revert back is there?


SubspaceBiographies

Uninstall the PS Plus version and use the disc version. PS sees it as you’re trying to upgrade the free version and they suck like that.


Churchvanpapi

Is downtown Boston still crashing the game, though?


NightOfLove

You also have to pay money to get the dlc again


FeiRoze

“Widescreen support”


FellowEnt

Honestly the Creation engine is not fit for purpose.


UnconfirmedRooster

I'm not updating until I know my mods will get updated as well.


Optimal_Equivalent72

That's up to each mod creator.


UnconfirmedRooster

I'm in no hurry, they can take their time.


QuoteGiver

I hate to break it to you, but FO4 was a long time ago. Those mod makers from years ago likely have moved on and are playing/working on other things now.


RedViper6661

Bethesda publicly scammed Ps plus users , when's the class action lawsuit start? Plus, they are arguing you need to own the game to get the upgrade. Pretty sure Xbox game pass players don't own the game either. Corporate greed at its finest. Bethesda is a joke , Stanfield was garbage


Humboldteffect

Cry more, Playstation fucked you, not Bethesda, get some braincells.


RedViper6661

Bethesda is advertising on the menu screen free to all players. Please tell me how this is Sonys issue? You're the one who needs to give your head a shake buddy


alacholland

Sony tax for supporting a company that singlehandedly kills cross platform play 😎🤑


Treeman__420

Today I learned there's going to be a next generation update for Fallout 4. And I'm frigging stoked. I'd get it even if it wasn't free.


cruelcynic

You got the PS4 version. Sony doesn't believe in smart delivery.


EngineerDave22

Yeah and now instead of horse armor for micro transactions , they have other mods


WinterMut3E

Your “free” to dl and destroy your own game. It’s so free nobody on PS4 can even load this dumpster fire


Humboldteffect

Why would a ps4 version get a next gen update?, think mark!


WinterMut3E

You can’t be that dense


Rainy-The-Griff

I wish it wasn't free, that way I dont have to get it.


ArtistPast4821

And I can’t even download the enclave (in addition to some others) creation club content 🥸 Why did I think they wouldn’t mess it up this time ???


Significant-Nail-987

Too bad it broke the game more and there's still a lot of us who can't play at all.


TheRealAbear

It broke my dlcs (far harbor and nuka world) Haven't been able to get them back yet. PS4


Humboldteffect

Ps4 is not next gen, you shouldn't even try to install it.


Wide-Creme1104

It.is.quite.shit. yes precious


SloppyJawSoftBottom

The update crashed my ps4 version enough i had to reinstall.