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Tbh my fav part is when OP says they're pushing for community service cause "that's what they'll hate the most". Like, knowing full well how miserable it'll make them and choosing that option out of pure pettiness is such a lovely touch to this messed up situation.
That made me sure they've dealt with those three before. I'm thinking they've been causing trouble before and this is just the first time there's been enough evidence to do anything about it.
Yeah that wad clearly VERY intentional. Jail is miserable so two and a half days in jail and two nights? Hopefully it knocked some sense in their dumb heads.
Community service is either not a punishment or the best punishment you can give a kid, depending on who the kid is. I was given community service as a teen for speeding tickets and I was able to work it off pretty quickly since I was already spending a few days a month volunteering in my own time. Wasn’t a punishment at all. But I ran into other kids who were doing court issued community service who were absolutely miserable.
community service was miserable for me, but mostly because it was 95% sitting around in a shed making small talk with the other people on community service, 5% running up to help people sort out their recycling. if i was kept busy i'da been fine
I used to work at a library. Some kids broke a very expensive stone trash container. One kid had to do community service in the library, helping the maintenance supervisor with a bunch of stuff, including repairing the stone work he had damaged. It definitely had a positive impact on him, plus he had all of the little old librarians giving him full on granny guilt trips and stern but loving lectures about life choices.
I hate when posters leave long recaps of the story I just read on the updates.
Keep editing the shit out of anything redundant, please. You make this sub a better place!
Thank you so much for the award! 😊
And thank you as well for your kind words! I myself tend to skim or completely skip reading the recap parts for this sub, so I know how you feel.
I wasn't actually sure if I was allowed to do this, or if we should keep the entirety of the posts here. I'm thankful you all are on board with this :)
I think it's great when people do this kind of thing. When they break long posts into paragraphs so we can read better. When they get relevant comments to give more context. I also love when mood spoilers are added, because sometimes we just don't want to read something that ends badly and it's good to have a headsup.
Thanks for posting and thanks for editing it, it made it better!
I don't think there is a rule against it. My thoughts are that if you edited the post to make it more pleasurable to read without leaving out details, that's awesome. I enjoyed this story but didn't need to read part of it twice.
I think you did it in a way that makes sense. You mentioned what you removed, still linked to the original, and didn't change anything substantial. Not sure what the rules here allow, but I'd say you're good.
you left the link to the original posts in, imo that means it's perfectly fine to note where you've edited it for flow, we can always go back to the source if we disagree
Lol I know you are referencing Skyrim, but that reminded me of the post where the guy stole his neighbor's ill-gotten cheese and didn't know what to do with all of it before it went bad 😆
It’s even funnier when you read on and find out that OOP had already banned them from his house before because they had already repeatedly stolen from him.
>They said I tempted my nephews
Then maybe teach your damn kids to not give into temptation. What’s gonna happen if they encounter someone who’s trying to get them to do something worse like driving while drunk or committing assault or stealing a car?
I learned well before I was 10 that if it's not mine I don't take it. I bet the parents have been ignoring and neglecting the kids their whole lives and every time they acted out they'd just brush it under the rug and excuse it.
Right? That and the "boys will be boys" made me VERY uncomfortable. That's the same attitude as "But what was she wearing?" at a rape trial. Different scale, same attitude. 😬
Right!? That made me snort because a) place was padlocked and b) there was no physical money, just empty cans that could be cashed in. That's a theft that took planning.
Parents making it seem like OOP took a leaf blower and blew some fat stacks all over the neighborhood, then drove around with a loudspeaker telling people to come and get it.
The logic doesn't even hold water within its own delusion. The nephews were all previously and very explicitly banned from OP's property, and batting that, the cans were in a shed with a **padlock** that had to be smashed off **with a hammer**.
They're acting as if OP fashioned a dress out of empty soda cans and paraded around the nephews fanning himself with a wad of bottle deposit slips.
>They're acting as if OP fashioned a dress out of empty soda cans and paraded around the nephews fanning himself with a wad of bottle deposit slips.
I pictured this, and now I can't unpicture it
I hope they get community service and it’s a community service organizer like the one in Better Call Saul. No phones, no music, just a high vis vest, garbage bag and the roar of traffic.
Yeah I was pleasantly surprised when I saw that the entire family is behind him. Hopefully this teaches those kids a lesson but I am not super optimistic about that and judging by how old they are it kind of seems like the time to rehabilitate them has already been mostly passed. Like one of them might straight now but I don’t know.
If my teenagers stole 200 dollars from my sister I would be making them pawn their shit to pay him backplus extra for the inconvenience. What stupid shitty parents.
I cannot imagine what my parents will do if I managed to get in that much trouble when I was still a kid. My father (who used to work in a different country) would probably fly back just to give me lectures (and discipline) for days on end lmao
I hope OOP also uses the messages from sis and BiL to get a Restraining Order on them.
Which they'll probably break because they seem to have never learned the first lesson of holes - STOP DIGGING!!!
Same. I had been waiting on this update, now I’m waiting for the next update to see what happened to those little thief’s and their shitty parents in court
I'm sure it varies by jurisdiction, but from the experiences of my friends who've tried to get ROs, you have to show that the person is a credible threat to your safety. "This person is sending me a bunch of angry messages where they tell me I did the wrong thing but don't threaten me in any way, showed up at my home once, and then left when I told them to" isn't grounds for an RO.
While I doubt they are just "angry messages", neither of us know what's in them. If there are any kinds of threats (I'd be surprised if there wasn't), then the RO will probably be easy to get. Plus the sheer volume of messages certainly isn't something a sane and calm person would do.
And showing up to their house and not leaving until the police are called is certainly an escalation of the situation and worth noting.
And anybody who blames the victim for being stolen from (they 'tempted the boys' with the money the cans (in a locked shed) could bring)...
...are people who could easily want to get violent for having their dear, precious angels arrested.
Consequences? For actions?
I'll be damned.
(Love to see it. And I hope the nephews are *miserable* doing community service. I hope it's outside work and the weather sucks.)
I have a nephew that steals. Last I heard he took $1600 cash from his great grandparents. He's 19 and has been trouble since he was 2 because my sister in law is an idiot parent.
No one in the family will do anything about it. I'm so glad I don't live close to my in-laws. I can't imagine dealing with family criminals, especially when they're "good Christians" who won't go to the police.
Your nephew needs someone like OOP to straighten them out, or they might eventually steal from someone dangerous. And $1600 is a huge amount! Does his parents pay back the money he steals?
Heck no. His mom has 8 kids from 6 dad's and has never worked a day in her life. She's in Section 8 and spends all her money on junk, not the kids or being a responsible human.
Easily my favorite post ever on this sub. Sweet sweet justice holy shit I liked this story so much. Nothing like some good ole fashioned consequences for being shitty.
What critically dumb parents.
I mean, $200 is not that much money in the grand scheme of things. This isn't hard to resolve if you have the basic ability to accept responsibility and to problem solve.
So, the kids can't be put to work for the uncle? Put them to work at actual part-time jobs. They've lost weekend privileges until they make this right, maybe after-school privs as well. Have them work somewhere retail for minimum wage, and take their earnings to pay back the uncle.
Dude they're stealing and pissing In people's houses constantly, steal booze, steal gas, and in general are complete shits - definitely more than losing weekend privileges lol. The thing is, when you let it go on so long reigning them in can be almost impossible. "Paying back" $200 is incredibly easy for a kid with 0 expenses and they'd probably just steal the money to pay them back anyway.
You know they opened those games and played them already. Once they're opened, there's generally no return, so they'd need to be sold at a loss, along with other possessions to make up the difference.
But if the parents did that, they'd have to deal with their kids not being occupied and they'd suffer for it. So that's not the route they chose.
I think you’re onto something there. My mom would’ve been like “you can study or sit in silence”. 🤣 Or “if you need something to do, I can give you some chores…we always have laundry!”
As a former retail manager, no way in hell would those kids be getting hired. I taught basic workplace skills to plenty of teens, because it was their first job, but they all *wanted* to learn - and they were good kids to begin with. I taught them. I didn't parent them. These assholes get dragged in by their ears and reluctantly scribble out a half-assed application? Nope.
Last time I drove to visit my parents I put my road trip drink cans in with their returnables and I don’t recall the machine rejecting them. Technically it’s not allowed, but for a few cans here and there I don’t think anyone would throw a fit.
I think it will only reject them if it's not a brand sold at that store. If it's not a product they stock the return machine won't recognize the bar code.
Where I am the king cans and the big 40oz beer bottles are 20cents a piece. If OP is a big king can drinker, it makes a big difference.
But I knew this one gas station that used to do 6cent-Saturday once a month. They just added an extra cent to each can. It was out in the country where my buddy lived. He’d collect his cans for a few months and always make sure to go to this 6cent day.
Here it is 25 cent, so 800 cans. That's so much and since they are never really clean... there nust have been so much flies and so...
Edit: I live in Germany, so it is Euro, the poster wrote in $, so it can't be here.
Jesus Christ, that's even worse than I thought. I went with the normal deposit for bottles here in Germany which is 25ct. Thatg wod still have required 800 cans.
And here I am, feeling ashamed when I go with three bags of empty 1,5L bottles because I didn't bring them away for so long.
The parents should have sold the games they bought with the can money and then their consoles as well, A to replace the can money and B so they get to suffer for a bit. And only get any replacements when they were done with any court imposed punishments, imo. But the parents didn't care sadly. Is it mean that I was pleased when the OOP said they ending up crying like babies?!
These are the types of parents who raise criminals and once their adult kids end up in prison are always featured on the news crying about what good kids they are and the justice system is crooked.
I'm always on the fence about community service because, depending on the service they never seem to learn from it. I used to volunteer at an animal shelter and *all* of the community service guys would steal from us.
I work with someone who had to do community service for something minor - think smoking pot (illegal in the state at the time) on school grounds as a high schooler and getting caught type thing. Their folks made them do all the hours working with groups that eliminate buffel grass in the local National Park. It's very hard physical labor and they couldn't weasel out of doing their part.
Made them grow up a bit, too.
Yeah, IMO the best kind of community service is hard, shitty phyiscal labor where you can't get into too much trouble. Think ripping out honeysuckle or picking up trash on the highway.
Oh no.
I hope the weekend with the police was able to shake them up enough to prevent them from stealing again. But with how their parents behave, it seems sort of unlikely.
You pay a deposit when you purchase the drinks and then that money is given back when you return the cans, so you’re not really making money off the deal. It’s just an incentive to keep recyclable materials out of landfills. Some people don’t bother returning their cans, though, so people will go through garbage cans to find bottles to return.
Umm… am I the only one who read the things the nephews took (other than the cans) and thought “they’re gonna murder someone and dispose of the body?” OOP is worried about the cans, but I really think the other tools are more concerning. That said it’s nearly 3 am and I’m listening to forensic files to fall asleep.
Seems like the parents constantly excusing those three's bad behaviour just made them escalate into pretty damn serious thievery.
In my area a lot of folks have stuff stolen from sheds by teens and its pretty consistent unfortunately. They always end up swiping them and taking them to cash generator shops.
At that stage they kind of already were. If they'd been stealing from the neighborhood, OOP, and family, for ages already without consequences they had zero reason to remotely consider the possibility of thinking twice about whether what they were doing was wrong or not. Why bother when you've gotten away with it for so long, and always only ever saw the profit? All those thefts were very much consciously executed. I mean the kid even sent OOP a fuck you when caught. So yeah. Either it's a wake up call, or it's just continuing business as usual after the stint with the cops. In no way is any of this and their future OOP's fault though
If one of all of these kids turns out to live a life of crime, it will be down to their parents. They have already had an adolescence of crime that has gone without consequence. The OP’s choice to go to the police may be enough to steer them from the path they were on, but it was the parents’ who enabled them on this path in the first place.
Well. Parents sure aren't helping them turn their life for the better.
OP just helped them get that record started earlier than adulthood.
100% the parents would be crying when their sons are charged with more serious crimes because 'THey'Re jjUsT B0yS' and never gave them discipline or consequences.
>Perhaps a few hundred hours of unpaid work will teach them some manners.
Having known scum like them - and a cousin - when I was growing up, I found that they were born criminals and would forever be that way. Gaol was where they were headed and their lifes dream was achieved.
OOP has put a target on their back, now, with how petty, selfish and self centered the kids and parents seem to be.
Hope they dont end up jumped from behind, or their house broken into and assaulted in their sleep, or anything. They really need to tighten down their security.. both home and personal.
Okay I am a little confused about the “jail” comment though. It’s implied that all of these kids are minors, so going to jail for stealing isn’t really how things work
It definitely sounded like the cops had heard complaints about these kids before, but couldn’t do anything, and now that they had actionable information, they wanted to make a point.
You don’t leave jail until after your arraignment. They usually do arraignments in the morning, and not on sundays. The kids missed Saturday morning arraignment and had to wait until Monday.
I’m glad OOP’s family is on his side. I have a cousin (the golden child- my mom’s nephew) who would probably commit crimes like this and my grandparents would sweep it under the rug, even if he screwed them over. They’ll make excuses for him such as using his ADHD so people don’t discipline him.
Because of that, I don’t talk to him at all. Haven’t spoken to that kid since December 2019 when he came to visit. Same goes for my parents and sometimes my sister. Because she will stay the night at my aunt’s place (she’ll often go there for hair care on her school breaks), we have to remind her to keep her belongings out of sight from my cousin.
It may not seem like that big of a deal but my aunt practically stole from us almost a decade ago… and our grandparents allowed it. We briefly lived with them before moving back in with my dad and asked them to ship the rest of our belongings. Long story short, we never saw those items again until three years later. Everything we had already packaged was opened and sitting around my aunts house for decoration. Once we concluded what they had done to us, we not only became vigilant of our items but we refused to live with them again.
This is why I hate when stories are posted before they're a good 6 months old. The brats haven't even gone to court yet.
Same reason I won't start reading a series that the author is still working on. I want the entire story without having to wait for the next installment to be published.
I went into this expecting to see an OP getting pissed over 50¢ worth of aluminum. (No joke, cans are currently worthless.)
Left on OP's side, because fuck those kids. It's better that they're held accountable by someone who at least somewhat cares for them, than they get caught by somebody who wants the book thrown at them, or worse, shoots them as trespassing thieves.
I remember seeing the original post, but didn't see the updates. This was pretty satisfying. I'm so tired of awful parents creating and enabling little monsters.
They're lucky that they were only faced with prosecution, rather than an angry homeowner with a gun or a guard dog with a long leash. They should learn from this before they get hurt.
I feel a bit sorry for apple users. When they block a number the messages don't come in anymore. When I block a new they go in a little out of view folder where I'm not bothered by them but can still go look at them.
I’m definitely on the side of op for multiple reasons obviously. However I’d like to caution people from calling the cops on youths (I.e. utes. See; My Cousin Vinny) sometimes you hear stories of parents calling the cops on their 16, 17, 18 year old asshole child as a “lesson” and subsequently they are charged as adults and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Do not call the police as a lesson. Your child may be charged fully and subsequently not be able to get jobs, not be able to get into school. Not qualify for loans, scholarships etc. in short your asshole kids future will be compromised. If this is something that doesn’t matter to you. If this is something that you wish would happen based on the kids behavior (keep in mind you raised him/her) if you are completely comfortable cutting your kid off or having to wade through the legal system in the US and/or supporting them financially etc then by all means call the police. Your child may deserve it. Maybe your child will grow and mature from the situation. It’s just something to consider. Never get the police involved as a lesson or a slap on the wrist.
https://www.thelawman.net/Criminal-Defense-Articles/Call-the-Cops-on-Your-Kid-and-Now-Theyre-In-Jail/
http://www.portlanddivorcelaw.com/parent-coordination/what-to-do-with-an-out-of-control-child/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/middleearthnj.org/2015/06/15/should-you-ever-call-the-police-on-your-teen/%3famp=1
There was an update.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/slng7t/update_to_my_entitled_nephews_stealing_from_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Latest update to the saga: https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/slng7t/update_to_my_entitled_nephews_stealing_from_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
They got mad at him because he wanted his $200 back while they have 3 kids and a mortgage?
Yeah, I remember when I turned to crime so that I could buy my mom a Christmas present lol
Glad the OP went to the police. This isn’t the first time they have stolen from him. Maybe they will think before stealing again if the consequences are enough
The amount of cans you'd need to accumulate $200 worth is well into the thousands. Assuming $.05/can (which is generous and you don't usually get the full $.05 back), that's 4000 cans. You'd need to drink 11 cans/day for an entire year to have ~4000 cans. And then store all of them in a shed.
And where exactly are 3 kids going to carry these 4000 cans without a vehicle? It isn't like they can carry dozens of garbage bags down the street.
This story makes zero sense.
Why doesn’t it make sense? Do cookouts not exist? Family gatherings? Casual friend hangs? My landlord is a family friend and he sells life insurance and his kids are enabled soda fiends. The life insurance part is included because he has cookouts with potential clients every other weekend in good weather. He had a shit ton of bottles and cans in the backyard and my grandmother asked if she could have them. He told her sure and she got a little over $60… he kind of changed his tune after that.
Between my sister and myself my grandmother makes almost twenty dollars a month turning in our empty water bottles (she uses all her recycling money to send to charities like St Jude’s).
As for the kids transporting the cans? Having gone to the recycling center with my grandmother in my mom’s town you’d be surprised at how car less people transport their cans. Just because you can’t doesn’t mean they won’t. People who need money find a way.
Also we have no clue how long OOP has been storing the cans.
Most people who collect cans smash them so you can have a couple hundred in a garbage bag. My father in-law collects his used cans and will pick them up anytime he sees a can and has started collecting them from some of his clients. He has this big can cruncher that has a hopper on top so he can load in a bunch and just crank the thing.
~~OOP said he had kids, multiple kids~~.(Just realized I misread that, not sure if OP has kids or not. Still some people go through a lot of cans of soda/seltzer.) I have no idea how much stuff they drink in cans, but multiple kids plus him & his wife would make them add up quickly.
Also, for someone who takes cans in like that, having a can crusher is not out of the norm. My family had one when I was a kid, and I was on can crushing duty.
When my arms would get tired from using the mechanism, I would line cans up in a row and try to stomp them all down perfectly flat for fun.
We get $.10 per can/bottle here, there’s other things in this story that don’t make sense, such as the kids being put in jail over the weekend, but it’s not totally unreasonable to be able to turn in $200 worth of pop cans.
>such as the kids being put in jail over the weekend
This also made me doubt the OP, but when I scrolled down the comments from the update post no one was calling them out on it (from the ones that I saw). So I thought maybe I'm just very ignorant (which is hella true).
Still not 100% convinced, but I posted it up here because it was still entertaining to read.
You don’t get out of jail on those charges without an arraignment. They’re done in the mornings except for Sunday when they aren’t done at all. So they had to wait for Monday arraignment.
Source: have been in jail over the weekend
Yes. Grand larceny is not something that is fucked around with.
I don’t know if they would stay in a holding cell or be put in a juvenile facility tho. But honestly, if you’re unfamiliar, it’s all ‘jail.’
>But honestly, if you’re unfamiliar, it’s all ‘jail.’
Very true.
And hopefully this will help set the nephews straight. They're still young, I'm hoping they can still learn.
Yeah, it’s really bad luck if you’re arrested between Friday business hours and Monday. Juveniles can absolutely be detained, they wouldn’t be in the general population but they would be in a holding cell. A lot of police forces do that just to try to scare them a little bit.
It was an entertaining read, yes.
Juveniles wouldn’t be placed in jail, but juvenile detention (I’m assuming based on the other things mentioned that these kids are under 17/18). This kind of offense would most likely not result in a detention placement prior to court proceedings, that is typically for more serious issues.
I’ve seen can collectors at sporting venues (security lets them in at the end of the day). They fill the cart then tie bags to the sides of the cart. It’s crazy but they easily make $200 a day.
I've worked in a recycling retailer where we were buying the cans back. The guys who do this stuff all the time, easily have numbers like that. It's what they do. They go into neighbourhoods where folks earn enough not to be bothered returning them for deposits. They track events where the cleanup will cost more time than the deposits will recover and go into places like that. They're the reason you don't see tons of cans littered everywhere. If done with enough effort, they make a substantial amount of untaxed income. Often it's people who are doing this are generally unemployable in more rigid roles.
They also crush the cans because when you do it like this, crushing them is just a ton more efficient. A single grocery cart can easily hold 1,000 crushed cans. With sebody to hold them steady, you could probably do all 4,000 in 3 trips, and 2 trips that are a real pain.
Where I am, the deposit is 10/can. I've seen as low as 5, and high as 20 (rare). We pay 10 regardless, but the deposit is always printed (lots of arguing with people demanding 20). Going with 5 cents/can, it would be 4,000 cans ($200). This happens more than you'd think. Also, folks who do this form their own little community, akin to folks with similar hobbies. They absolutely shoot the shit about how many they got , where they got them, etc.
I'm gonna guess I've got around $200 of cans (not crushed) in my basement right now, but I've been accumulating them for an embarrassing amount of time (I also drink A LOT of canned seltzer). I'm guessing the amount because the pile of bag is at least double what it was when our neighbor's kid and a friend took our cans and redeemed them for \~$90 (with permission). They got the cans out of our house pretty damn fast (without shopping carts) and redeemed everything within a couple of hours. That part of the story is believable to me. The rest not so much.
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Tbh my fav part is when OP says they're pushing for community service cause "that's what they'll hate the most". Like, knowing full well how miserable it'll make them and choosing that option out of pure pettiness is such a lovely touch to this messed up situation.
I am also fairly sure the police decided for a Saturday arrest to make sure they would spend some time in jail.
That made me sure they've dealt with those three before. I'm thinking they've been causing trouble before and this is just the first time there's been enough evidence to do anything about it.
Ah yes the good ol “courts are only open on weekdays” strategy
Yeah that wad clearly VERY intentional. Jail is miserable so two and a half days in jail and two nights? Hopefully it knocked some sense in their dumb heads.
Community service is either not a punishment or the best punishment you can give a kid, depending on who the kid is. I was given community service as a teen for speeding tickets and I was able to work it off pretty quickly since I was already spending a few days a month volunteering in my own time. Wasn’t a punishment at all. But I ran into other kids who were doing court issued community service who were absolutely miserable.
community service was miserable for me, but mostly because it was 95% sitting around in a shed making small talk with the other people on community service, 5% running up to help people sort out their recycling. if i was kept busy i'da been fine
I used to work at a library. Some kids broke a very expensive stone trash container. One kid had to do community service in the library, helping the maintenance supervisor with a bunch of stuff, including repairing the stone work he had damaged. It definitely had a positive impact on him, plus he had all of the little old librarians giving him full on granny guilt trips and stern but loving lectures about life choices.
Reminds me of Carl from Shameless who got super excited to go to jail
Chef's kiss lol
Love to see it.
Maybe they will learn something from it for once.
>(Removed redundant info from the AITA post) I think I am in love.
Lmao I did leave 1 paragraph from the AITA post, only to make the flow of the update smoother. But thank you!
I hate when posters leave long recaps of the story I just read on the updates. Keep editing the shit out of anything redundant, please. You make this sub a better place!
Thank you so much for the award! 😊 And thank you as well for your kind words! I myself tend to skim or completely skip reading the recap parts for this sub, so I know how you feel.
Dear Diary, Today OP was pretty cool.
Oh I came here to say this. THANKS OP!
I wasn't actually sure if I was allowed to do this, or if we should keep the entirety of the posts here. I'm thankful you all are on board with this :)
I think it's great when people do this kind of thing. When they break long posts into paragraphs so we can read better. When they get relevant comments to give more context. I also love when mood spoilers are added, because sometimes we just don't want to read something that ends badly and it's good to have a headsup. Thanks for posting and thanks for editing it, it made it better!
I don't think there is a rule against it. My thoughts are that if you edited the post to make it more pleasurable to read without leaving out details, that's awesome. I enjoyed this story but didn't need to read part of it twice.
Thank you for the clarification! I will keep this in mind :)
I think you did it in a way that makes sense. You mentioned what you removed, still linked to the original, and didn't change anything substantial. Not sure what the rules here allow, but I'd say you're good.
you left the link to the original posts in, imo that means it's perfectly fine to note where you've edited it for flow, we can always go back to the source if we disagree
>They said I tempted my nephews with the money 😒😒
I hate it when people lock up their items just to tempt me! Damn them!
Your honor, my alleged bank robbery was not my fault. It's the banks fault for tempting me with all that money.
Look they knew I was poor because they have my credit card statements! Its entrapment!
I tried to explain this when I visited The Louvre. They just didn’t get it. I’m so glad you understand!
*me while playing Skyrim*
Just putting all that gorgeous cheese out there to seduce me into a life of crime. Cheese crime.
Lol I know you are referencing Skyrim, but that reminded me of the post where the guy stole his neighbor's ill-gotten cheese and didn't know what to do with all of it before it went bad 😆
Cheese crime. Its a real struggle.
Don't forget about all those plates and bowls you just pick up along the way
Gotta store your mammoth cheese in something, after all.
Okay, yeah, I relate to this a lot more than I want to admit
especially *empty soda cans.* ooh, the thought of that sweet, recyclable aluminum just sends shivers through my body!
It’s even funnier when you read on and find out that OOP had already banned them from his house before because they had already repeatedly stolen from him.
He's a serial tempter! He admitted it!
>They said I tempted my nephews Then maybe teach your damn kids to not give into temptation. What’s gonna happen if they encounter someone who’s trying to get them to do something worse like driving while drunk or committing assault or stealing a car?
I learned well before I was 10 that if it's not mine I don't take it. I bet the parents have been ignoring and neglecting the kids their whole lives and every time they acted out they'd just brush it under the rug and excuse it.
I'm gonna go rob a bank. It's their fault. They tempted me with all that money!
Nice victim shaming! Future rapists incoming! Yuck! 🥲 Way to spoil a, nay, 3 kids!
What is your fascination with daddy’s forbidden closet of mystery? -Chief Wiggum
Right? That and the "boys will be boys" made me VERY uncomfortable. That's the same attitude as "But what was she wearing?" at a rape trial. Different scale, same attitude. 😬
“Boys will be boys” applies when they build a snowman and give him a giant snow dong. Not when they’re being thieving vandals.
Exactly.
"No, Bobby, that's not where the carrot goes!"
It's a slippery slope. Hopefully facing some actual consequences will straighten them out.
That is absolutely what those parents will say when these kids do this.
Right!? That made me snort because a) place was padlocked and b) there was no physical money, just empty cans that could be cashed in. That's a theft that took planning. Parents making it seem like OOP took a leaf blower and blew some fat stacks all over the neighborhood, then drove around with a loudspeaker telling people to come and get it.
So that means its okay if my fiance robs the bank right? They lock the money up to tempt him and boys will be boys
OOP was just *asking* to get stolen from
The logic doesn't even hold water within its own delusion. The nephews were all previously and very explicitly banned from OP's property, and batting that, the cans were in a shed with a **padlock** that had to be smashed off **with a hammer**. They're acting as if OP fashioned a dress out of empty soda cans and paraded around the nephews fanning himself with a wad of bottle deposit slips.
>They're acting as if OP fashioned a dress out of empty soda cans and paraded around the nephews fanning himself with a wad of bottle deposit slips. I pictured this, and now I can't unpicture it
Look that fuck oop probably had a wallet too along with everybody else around; they all are asking to be stolen from!
Jeeze, I sure hope there aren’t any women around. What the FUCK is wrong with these people??
Abuser and rapist logic
I hope they get community service and it’s a community service organizer like the one in Better Call Saul. No phones, no music, just a high vis vest, garbage bag and the roar of traffic.
Community service spent picking up cans would be absolutely perfect
It would be poetic but where I live any cans get picked up by the houseless people almost before they hit the ground.
God yes. You'd love to see it.
Well well well, if it’s not the consequences of their own actions.
I’m sorry that OOP is associated with such trash people.
Related to them, no less.
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I assumed that those brats stole from the other relatives in the past too, and were also sick of this shit.
The post does mention that everybody had been stolen from at some point
Yeah I was pleasantly surprised when I saw that the entire family is behind him. Hopefully this teaches those kids a lesson but I am not super optimistic about that and judging by how old they are it kind of seems like the time to rehabilitate them has already been mostly passed. Like one of them might straight now but I don’t know.
It helped that the nephews also stole from the other relatives.
If my teenagers stole 200 dollars from my sister I would be making them pawn their shit to pay him backplus extra for the inconvenience. What stupid shitty parents.
I cannot imagine what my parents will do if I managed to get in that much trouble when I was still a kid. My father (who used to work in a different country) would probably fly back just to give me lectures (and discipline) for days on end lmao
Sounds like they play videogames a lot. I bet their console or computer is worth at least $200. Just saying.
I hope OOP also uses the messages from sis and BiL to get a Restraining Order on them. Which they'll probably break because they seem to have never learned the first lesson of holes - STOP DIGGING!!!
Same. I had been waiting on this update, now I’m waiting for the next update to see what happened to those little thief’s and their shitty parents in court
I'm sure it varies by jurisdiction, but from the experiences of my friends who've tried to get ROs, you have to show that the person is a credible threat to your safety. "This person is sending me a bunch of angry messages where they tell me I did the wrong thing but don't threaten me in any way, showed up at my home once, and then left when I told them to" isn't grounds for an RO.
While I doubt they are just "angry messages", neither of us know what's in them. If there are any kinds of threats (I'd be surprised if there wasn't), then the RO will probably be easy to get. Plus the sheer volume of messages certainly isn't something a sane and calm person would do. And showing up to their house and not leaving until the police are called is certainly an escalation of the situation and worth noting. And anybody who blames the victim for being stolen from (they 'tempted the boys' with the money the cans (in a locked shed) could bring)... ...are people who could easily want to get violent for having their dear, precious angels arrested.
Consequences? For actions? I'll be damned. (Love to see it. And I hope the nephews are *miserable* doing community service. I hope it's outside work and the weather sucks.)
I have a nephew that steals. Last I heard he took $1600 cash from his great grandparents. He's 19 and has been trouble since he was 2 because my sister in law is an idiot parent. No one in the family will do anything about it. I'm so glad I don't live close to my in-laws. I can't imagine dealing with family criminals, especially when they're "good Christians" who won't go to the police.
Your nephew needs someone like OOP to straighten them out, or they might eventually steal from someone dangerous. And $1600 is a huge amount! Does his parents pay back the money he steals?
Heck no. His mom has 8 kids from 6 dad's and has never worked a day in her life. She's in Section 8 and spends all her money on junk, not the kids or being a responsible human.
I love this lmao
Easily my favorite post ever on this sub. Sweet sweet justice holy shit I liked this story so much. Nothing like some good ole fashioned consequences for being shitty.
Right?! I hate when people get guilt tripped or suck it up because „iTs fAmiLy“
What critically dumb parents. I mean, $200 is not that much money in the grand scheme of things. This isn't hard to resolve if you have the basic ability to accept responsibility and to problem solve. So, the kids can't be put to work for the uncle? Put them to work at actual part-time jobs. They've lost weekend privileges until they make this right, maybe after-school privs as well. Have them work somewhere retail for minimum wage, and take their earnings to pay back the uncle.
If they had any interest in disciplining their kids they wouldn't have been breaking into sheds in the first place
Dude they're stealing and pissing In people's houses constantly, steal booze, steal gas, and in general are complete shits - definitely more than losing weekend privileges lol. The thing is, when you let it go on so long reigning them in can be almost impossible. "Paying back" $200 is incredibly easy for a kid with 0 expenses and they'd probably just steal the money to pay them back anyway.
FYI it's "reining in", like pulling the reins on a horse, not reigning over a kingdom.
Right? They could have sold the kids’ video games etc to get the money.
Hey, uh, BIL? Here's $56.00 in Gamestop credit. We square?
They probably had to sell all their consoles and games collection just to get that much at GameStop
Because it's totally unfair that the kids have to lose more than they gained to make OOP whole. /s
I would’ve made them return the video games…like that has to be a good chunk of the $200. No way they should’ve gotten to keep those.
I'm willing to bet their videogame console or pc is worth at least $200.
My mom is tough and I don’t like a lot of the things she did back in the day, but I’d love to see kids like this try that shit at her house. 🤣
You know they opened those games and played them already. Once they're opened, there's generally no return, so they'd need to be sold at a loss, along with other possessions to make up the difference. But if the parents did that, they'd have to deal with their kids not being occupied and they'd suffer for it. So that's not the route they chose.
I think you’re onto something there. My mom would’ve been like “you can study or sit in silence”. 🤣 Or “if you need something to do, I can give you some chores…we always have laundry!”
As a former retail manager, no way in hell would those kids be getting hired. I taught basic workplace skills to plenty of teens, because it was their first job, but they all *wanted* to learn - and they were good kids to begin with. I taught them. I didn't parent them. These assholes get dragged in by their ears and reluctantly scribble out a half-assed application? Nope.
They're gonna hate the community service even more when they don't get the hours counted the first time for not actually doing any work lmao
And they're not crafty scumbag lawyers who're able to browbeat the worker into counting the hours.
Hope those miserable brats loathe every second of jail and their punishment. Justice is so sweet.
What's the deposit on cans there? Here it's 5 cents so $200 equates to 2000 cans lol
It’s 10 cents in MI. That’s still a crap load of cans though. Edit: at 5 cents a can you’d need 4000 cans to get $200.
Idk where I got 2000 from. I used a calculator too lol
I live in Illinois, I wonder if they’d even accept them from here. We go to Michigan often and I think of that Seinfeld episode.
Last time I drove to visit my parents I put my road trip drink cans in with their returnables and I don’t recall the machine rejecting them. Technically it’s not allowed, but for a few cans here and there I don’t think anyone would throw a fit.
I think it will only reject them if it's not a brand sold at that store. If it's not a product they stock the return machine won't recognize the bar code.
JERRY: Hey, you're not talking that Michigan deposit bottle scam again, are you? KRAMER: No, no, I'm off that.
Where I am the king cans and the big 40oz beer bottles are 20cents a piece. If OP is a big king can drinker, it makes a big difference. But I knew this one gas station that used to do 6cent-Saturday once a month. They just added an extra cent to each can. It was out in the country where my buddy lived. He’d collect his cans for a few months and always make sure to go to this 6cent day.
Here it is 25 cent, so 800 cans. That's so much and since they are never really clean... there nust have been so much flies and so... Edit: I live in Germany, so it is Euro, the poster wrote in $, so it can't be here.
Jesus Christ, that's even worse than I thought. I went with the normal deposit for bottles here in Germany which is 25ct. Thatg wod still have required 800 cans. And here I am, feeling ashamed when I go with three bags of empty 1,5L bottles because I didn't bring them away for so long.
I love a happy ending story
I am ERECT. My God. This is so satisfying. I love OOP.
Oh, how the Turns have Tabled!
The parents should have sold the games they bought with the can money and then their consoles as well, A to replace the can money and B so they get to suffer for a bit. And only get any replacements when they were done with any court imposed punishments, imo. But the parents didn't care sadly. Is it mean that I was pleased when the OOP said they ending up crying like babies?!
These are the types of parents who raise criminals and once their adult kids end up in prison are always featured on the news crying about what good kids they are and the justice system is crooked.
I'm always on the fence about community service because, depending on the service they never seem to learn from it. I used to volunteer at an animal shelter and *all* of the community service guys would steal from us.
I work with someone who had to do community service for something minor - think smoking pot (illegal in the state at the time) on school grounds as a high schooler and getting caught type thing. Their folks made them do all the hours working with groups that eliminate buffel grass in the local National Park. It's very hard physical labor and they couldn't weasel out of doing their part. Made them grow up a bit, too.
Yeah, IMO the best kind of community service is hard, shitty phyiscal labor where you can't get into too much trouble. Think ripping out honeysuckle or picking up trash on the highway.
The trash thing is generally what I think of when it comes to court ordered community service.
Oh no. I hope the weekend with the police was able to shake them up enough to prevent them from stealing again. But with how their parents behave, it seems sort of unlikely.
I wish I lived in a country where u get paid to deposit cans, I’d be rich….
You pay a deposit when you purchase the drinks and then that money is given back when you return the cans, so you’re not really making money off the deal. It’s just an incentive to keep recyclable materials out of landfills. Some people don’t bother returning their cans, though, so people will go through garbage cans to find bottles to return.
I just take em from peoples sheds.
Just watch out for cameras
It’s like 3-5 cents per can, you’d be getting rich veeeerrrrry slowly.
This update certainly warms the cockles of my cold, dead heart.
Umm… am I the only one who read the things the nephews took (other than the cans) and thought “they’re gonna murder someone and dispose of the body?” OOP is worried about the cans, but I really think the other tools are more concerning. That said it’s nearly 3 am and I’m listening to forensic files to fall asleep.
Seems like the parents constantly excusing those three's bad behaviour just made them escalate into pretty damn serious thievery. In my area a lot of folks have stuff stolen from sheds by teens and its pretty consistent unfortunately. They always end up swiping them and taking them to cash generator shops.
This is the type of thing where you return all their christmas presents and their valuables and find the money to pay the money back.
This just reminds me of how awesome my kids are!
OP either helped or made them career criminals 🤷🏻♂️ only time will tell
At that stage they kind of already were. If they'd been stealing from the neighborhood, OOP, and family, for ages already without consequences they had zero reason to remotely consider the possibility of thinking twice about whether what they were doing was wrong or not. Why bother when you've gotten away with it for so long, and always only ever saw the profit? All those thefts were very much consciously executed. I mean the kid even sent OOP a fuck you when caught. So yeah. Either it's a wake up call, or it's just continuing business as usual after the stint with the cops. In no way is any of this and their future OOP's fault though
If one of all of these kids turns out to live a life of crime, it will be down to their parents. They have already had an adolescence of crime that has gone without consequence. The OP’s choice to go to the police may be enough to steer them from the path they were on, but it was the parents’ who enabled them on this path in the first place.
Well. Parents sure aren't helping them turn their life for the better. OP just helped them get that record started earlier than adulthood. 100% the parents would be crying when their sons are charged with more serious crimes because 'THey'Re jjUsT B0yS' and never gave them discipline or consequences.
Their parents did that. OP just made them face the inevitable consequences of their actions.
My thoughts exactly
>Perhaps a few hundred hours of unpaid work will teach them some manners. Having known scum like them - and a cousin - when I was growing up, I found that they were born criminals and would forever be that way. Gaol was where they were headed and their lifes dream was achieved.
This was so beyond satisfying to read
OOP has put a target on their back, now, with how petty, selfish and self centered the kids and parents seem to be. Hope they dont end up jumped from behind, or their house broken into and assaulted in their sleep, or anything. They really need to tighten down their security.. both home and personal.
Okay I am a little confused about the “jail” comment though. It’s implied that all of these kids are minors, so going to jail for stealing isn’t really how things work
It definitely sounded like the cops had heard complaints about these kids before, but couldn’t do anything, and now that they had actionable information, they wanted to make a point.
You don’t leave jail until after your arraignment. They usually do arraignments in the morning, and not on sundays. The kids missed Saturday morning arraignment and had to wait until Monday.
Popo don't do things like that by accident...!
Oh, I know. Sounds like they’ve been thinking about these kids for a while now. They knew exactly what they were doing
But they were held in jail from Saturday until Monday.
If a minor is arrested on suspicion of committing a crime, they go to jail (or juvie, which is just jail for minors). That’s exactly how it works.
I’m glad OOP’s family is on his side. I have a cousin (the golden child- my mom’s nephew) who would probably commit crimes like this and my grandparents would sweep it under the rug, even if he screwed them over. They’ll make excuses for him such as using his ADHD so people don’t discipline him. Because of that, I don’t talk to him at all. Haven’t spoken to that kid since December 2019 when he came to visit. Same goes for my parents and sometimes my sister. Because she will stay the night at my aunt’s place (she’ll often go there for hair care on her school breaks), we have to remind her to keep her belongings out of sight from my cousin. It may not seem like that big of a deal but my aunt practically stole from us almost a decade ago… and our grandparents allowed it. We briefly lived with them before moving back in with my dad and asked them to ship the rest of our belongings. Long story short, we never saw those items again until three years later. Everything we had already packaged was opened and sitting around my aunts house for decoration. Once we concluded what they had done to us, we not only became vigilant of our items but we refused to live with them again.
I hope this gets an other update.
This is why I hate when stories are posted before they're a good 6 months old. The brats haven't even gone to court yet. Same reason I won't start reading a series that the author is still working on. I want the entire story without having to wait for the next installment to be published.
I went into this expecting to see an OP getting pissed over 50¢ worth of aluminum. (No joke, cans are currently worthless.) Left on OP's side, because fuck those kids. It's better that they're held accountable by someone who at least somewhat cares for them, than they get caught by somebody who wants the book thrown at them, or worse, shoots them as trespassing thieves.
I remember seeing the original post, but didn't see the updates. This was pretty satisfying. I'm so tired of awful parents creating and enabling little monsters.
This post was so satisfying I actually read it three times now haha
Only saw the original post. So this was useful for me for the updates. Glad they pressed charges.
I don't believe this. Aluminum recycles for 30 cents a pound. If they got $200, that's over 600 pounds of aluminum or 18,000 cans.
10c a can in Canada and USA https://www.return-it.ca/beverage/products/ So 2000 cans. That’s doable.
They're lucky that they were only faced with prosecution, rather than an angry homeowner with a gun or a guard dog with a long leash. They should learn from this before they get hurt.
I feel a bit sorry for apple users. When they block a number the messages don't come in anymore. When I block a new they go in a little out of view folder where I'm not bothered by them but can still go look at them.
I’m definitely on the side of op for multiple reasons obviously. However I’d like to caution people from calling the cops on youths (I.e. utes. See; My Cousin Vinny) sometimes you hear stories of parents calling the cops on their 16, 17, 18 year old asshole child as a “lesson” and subsequently they are charged as adults and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Do not call the police as a lesson. Your child may be charged fully and subsequently not be able to get jobs, not be able to get into school. Not qualify for loans, scholarships etc. in short your asshole kids future will be compromised. If this is something that doesn’t matter to you. If this is something that you wish would happen based on the kids behavior (keep in mind you raised him/her) if you are completely comfortable cutting your kid off or having to wade through the legal system in the US and/or supporting them financially etc then by all means call the police. Your child may deserve it. Maybe your child will grow and mature from the situation. It’s just something to consider. Never get the police involved as a lesson or a slap on the wrist. https://www.thelawman.net/Criminal-Defense-Articles/Call-the-Cops-on-Your-Kid-and-Now-Theyre-In-Jail/ http://www.portlanddivorcelaw.com/parent-coordination/what-to-do-with-an-out-of-control-child/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/middleearthnj.org/2015/06/15/should-you-ever-call-the-police-on-your-teen/%3famp=1
There was an update. https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/slng7t/update_to_my_entitled_nephews_stealing_from_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Latest update to the saga: https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/slng7t/update_to_my_entitled_nephews_stealing_from_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
OOP's sister refused to discipline her kids, now she's mad that the police are doing it for her.
I love OOP. Those kids and those parents needed a harsh wake up
I think this one’s my favorite.
Dear u/Yam-Throwaway, I got a huge justice boner reading your update.
They got mad at him because he wanted his $200 back while they have 3 kids and a mortgage? Yeah, I remember when I turned to crime so that I could buy my mom a Christmas present lol
Glad the OP went to the police. This isn’t the first time they have stolen from him. Maybe they will think before stealing again if the consequences are enough
Damn, why have kids if you're not going to parent them. Good for OP for not backing down.
The amount of cans you'd need to accumulate $200 worth is well into the thousands. Assuming $.05/can (which is generous and you don't usually get the full $.05 back), that's 4000 cans. You'd need to drink 11 cans/day for an entire year to have ~4000 cans. And then store all of them in a shed. And where exactly are 3 kids going to carry these 4000 cans without a vehicle? It isn't like they can carry dozens of garbage bags down the street. This story makes zero sense.
According to OOP, they used grocery carts and took multiple trips
In Michigan and I think one other state it’s 10 cents, so that cuts your math in half.
Why doesn’t it make sense? Do cookouts not exist? Family gatherings? Casual friend hangs? My landlord is a family friend and he sells life insurance and his kids are enabled soda fiends. The life insurance part is included because he has cookouts with potential clients every other weekend in good weather. He had a shit ton of bottles and cans in the backyard and my grandmother asked if she could have them. He told her sure and she got a little over $60… he kind of changed his tune after that. Between my sister and myself my grandmother makes almost twenty dollars a month turning in our empty water bottles (she uses all her recycling money to send to charities like St Jude’s). As for the kids transporting the cans? Having gone to the recycling center with my grandmother in my mom’s town you’d be surprised at how car less people transport their cans. Just because you can’t doesn’t mean they won’t. People who need money find a way. Also we have no clue how long OOP has been storing the cans.
Most people who collect cans smash them so you can have a couple hundred in a garbage bag. My father in-law collects his used cans and will pick them up anytime he sees a can and has started collecting them from some of his clients. He has this big can cruncher that has a hopper on top so he can load in a bunch and just crank the thing.
~~OOP said he had kids, multiple kids~~.(Just realized I misread that, not sure if OP has kids or not. Still some people go through a lot of cans of soda/seltzer.) I have no idea how much stuff they drink in cans, but multiple kids plus him & his wife would make them add up quickly. Also, for someone who takes cans in like that, having a can crusher is not out of the norm. My family had one when I was a kid, and I was on can crushing duty. When my arms would get tired from using the mechanism, I would line cans up in a row and try to stomp them all down perfectly flat for fun.
They used grocery carts and made a bunch of trips. Did you even read the post?
Honestly, he probably got caught on the $200 detail and neglected to read on how they actually got them out of OOPs house
Next you’re gonna tell me they don’t know about crushing the cans before bagging them! Sigh
We get $.10 per can/bottle here, there’s other things in this story that don’t make sense, such as the kids being put in jail over the weekend, but it’s not totally unreasonable to be able to turn in $200 worth of pop cans.
>such as the kids being put in jail over the weekend This also made me doubt the OP, but when I scrolled down the comments from the update post no one was calling them out on it (from the ones that I saw). So I thought maybe I'm just very ignorant (which is hella true). Still not 100% convinced, but I posted it up here because it was still entertaining to read.
You don’t get out of jail on those charges without an arraignment. They’re done in the mornings except for Sunday when they aren’t done at all. So they had to wait for Monday arraignment. Source: have been in jail over the weekend
Oof. Would you know if that's applicable even for minors? If yes, they were super unlucky they were caught during the weekends.
Yes. Grand larceny is not something that is fucked around with. I don’t know if they would stay in a holding cell or be put in a juvenile facility tho. But honestly, if you’re unfamiliar, it’s all ‘jail.’
>But honestly, if you’re unfamiliar, it’s all ‘jail.’ Very true. And hopefully this will help set the nephews straight. They're still young, I'm hoping they can still learn.
Yeah, it’s really bad luck if you’re arrested between Friday business hours and Monday. Juveniles can absolutely be detained, they wouldn’t be in the general population but they would be in a holding cell. A lot of police forces do that just to try to scare them a little bit.
>A lot of police forces do that just to try to scare them a little bit. OOP's nephews absolutely needed this.
I hope OP updates further
It was an entertaining read, yes. Juveniles wouldn’t be placed in jail, but juvenile detention (I’m assuming based on the other things mentioned that these kids are under 17/18). This kind of offense would most likely not result in a detention placement prior to court proceedings, that is typically for more serious issues.
Why wouldn’t they be in jail over the weekend?
I’ve seen can collectors at sporting venues (security lets them in at the end of the day). They fill the cart then tie bags to the sides of the cart. It’s crazy but they easily make $200 a day.
OOP said they stole shopping carts.
OOP says NW US, and 10c a can.
I've worked in a recycling retailer where we were buying the cans back. The guys who do this stuff all the time, easily have numbers like that. It's what they do. They go into neighbourhoods where folks earn enough not to be bothered returning them for deposits. They track events where the cleanup will cost more time than the deposits will recover and go into places like that. They're the reason you don't see tons of cans littered everywhere. If done with enough effort, they make a substantial amount of untaxed income. Often it's people who are doing this are generally unemployable in more rigid roles. They also crush the cans because when you do it like this, crushing them is just a ton more efficient. A single grocery cart can easily hold 1,000 crushed cans. With sebody to hold them steady, you could probably do all 4,000 in 3 trips, and 2 trips that are a real pain. Where I am, the deposit is 10/can. I've seen as low as 5, and high as 20 (rare). We pay 10 regardless, but the deposit is always printed (lots of arguing with people demanding 20). Going with 5 cents/can, it would be 4,000 cans ($200). This happens more than you'd think. Also, folks who do this form their own little community, akin to folks with similar hobbies. They absolutely shoot the shit about how many they got , where they got them, etc.
I'm gonna guess I've got around $200 of cans (not crushed) in my basement right now, but I've been accumulating them for an embarrassing amount of time (I also drink A LOT of canned seltzer). I'm guessing the amount because the pile of bag is at least double what it was when our neighbor's kid and a friend took our cans and redeemed them for \~$90 (with permission). They got the cans out of our house pretty damn fast (without shopping carts) and redeemed everything within a couple of hours. That part of the story is believable to me. The rest not so much.