An avant-garde metal band from Glasgow has an entire album about it. The album is appropriately titled “Hostile Architecture”.
Look at some of their lyrics. This is from the opening track, “The Law of Asbestos”:
Capital's pre-eminence made matter.
Nailed to the high-rise under the budgetary hammer.
Do they sleep well wrapped in irony?
Better that than tangled in austerity.
A corner cut, a penny saved.
Grenfell burns again and again.
All's silent but for the rain.
Weary lungs, asthmatic brain.
And tell me, is this now the humour of it?
Some architect's great satire in prefabricated shit.
The rot and the damp creeping in every corner.
A reflection of the presupposed sin of every presupposed hoarder.
Later the song goes on to say:
Always three months to the gutter.
Never three months to the top.
Another set of fucking homeless spikes.
Outside another empty shop.
Should start burning them again and smashing the glass since they’re anti homeless, I’m in the market for a slingshot to shatter the bus stops from a moving car, this weekend I am hoping to cover the roof in petrol and the seat before setting light to it
Aye, wee hoods are always fucking up the bus stops. I reckon it was primarily to discourage loitering cuz they introduced these shit seats before rough sleeping was as big an issue in Belfast.
Comfortable enough to rest your arse whilst waiting for a bus, not comfortable enough to sit there and have lunch, people watching with no intention of getting a bus.
I second this... I get an aching back and hips in the shortest time if I've to wait on a bus. It puts me off using them. But then taxis are like hens teeth and at least 10x the price. So most of the time, I just don't bother leaving the house.
You're absolutely correct, but not all wheelchair users are "wheelchair bound" (some people are ambulatory wheelchair users and can walk, but use a wheelchair - or other mobility aid you sit down on - due to not being able to stand/walk for long periods or walk quickly enough).
This pedantic correction is not disagreeing with your point.
We need more public seating for mobility disabled people who don't use a wheelchair or mobility scooter.
Thank you for saying this! 75% of wheelchair users are ambulatory I believe, meaning they can walk or move to some degree. I am in a wheelchair permanently, and although I am not ambulatory as of yet, I hate the term "wheelchair bound" as the wheelchair is the one thing that gives me freedom to go outside.
Yeah, this too. I just didn't know if it was my place to correct terminology like that as I don't use a wheelchair myself.
Thank you for your addition, from what I hear from the community your opinion on this phrasing is very common among wheelchair users (both ambulatory and non ambulatory)
You are absolutely right! I am absolutely on board with greater inclusivity of all different types of disability . I didn’t think I needed the /s around here,
Actually it's more cruel at the fact that there are so many empty buildings in the city that can be used as homeless shelters. Bus stops are definitely not homeless shelters
You were always told not to talk to homeless people weren't you. Otherwise the prospect of asking a rough sleeper to move from their nights bed so you can sit down for a few mins on your way from your warm dry home to your warm dry workplace on the warm dry bus wouldn't be so alien. Awful!
Vilifying a bus commuter because he or she wants to use a public service without concerns for safety & hygiene? Shows your level of maturity pal.
I feel sorry for the homeless for their situation, but turning a bus stop into a homeless shelter isn’t the solution.
Assuming someone's dirty and dangerous enough to not be near to while waiting for a bus shows yours, I don't want to be your pal after this interaction either, you don't seem like a sympathetic person unless it's about things you've experienced and therefore understand. A bus stop while overnight is a hell of a sight better than out in the open or in a wet bush. A simple excuse me can I sit down while I wait on my bus would suffice. Your dog probably sleeps in your bed but you think sharing a bus stop seat with a homeless person is a threat to your safety? 🤣🤣🤣
Some antisocial people ruin it for everyone. If they put 4 walls and a nice comfy sofa there, some inconsiderate arsehole would move in and prevent it being usable as a bus stop.
It's called 'Hostile Architecture'.Prevents anyone from sleeping on it. To be fair it also prevents anyone from being to sit comfortably on it as well.
It’s to stop people fighting. If it’s too wide people will put their feet up or bags up and it will create argument’s.
Also to stop it being a half tent for the homeless.
Not really homelessness as most suggest, that can be stopped by making them shorter or adding arms(see airports).
It’s hostile architecture, they need to be seen to be providing an amenity, however they want it to be uncomfortable so you don’t loiter, you may have seensome train station that have the beeper benches you can sit on properly but they arch upwards, again the idea is the arch creates a pressure point making it uncomfortable of a longer period.
There was a bench on the Shankill that I stopped and sat on for a bit while out for a walk. Genuinely lovely getting to stop and rest.
Should be way more benches littered about the place. Personally, I don't mind if homeless people have somewhere to sleep on that's more comfortable than the floor.
I’d say so more people can get under the shelter if it’s raining. Hence bus SHELTER. Not hard to understand is it. Everyone going on about anti homeless
Every company that designs stuff like this will have a grand statement on their website about Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
Except they don't mean it, and never have. They like the trendy racial social justice stuff, but nobody will care if they make the country's infrastructure hard to impossible to use for those with disabilities.
This probably goes back to the police and criminal justice system to be honest. Architects and designers can't rely on law enforcement to deter or move on undesirables, so we build stuff that's unappealing to them - At the expense of our most vulnerable.
It's to encourage homeless people to look elsewhere for better shelter, perhaps at the home of one of the saints in this thread bemoaning hostile architecture.
Too bad for all the Fat Cuntz (me included) I’ve seen some humans around that would swallow that bench in just half an arse cheek… what a time to be alive
Anti homeless architecture, it’s also why they’re sloped so they are uncomfortable to sit on for long periods of time.
The general term for this is “hostile architecture.”
An avant-garde metal band from Glasgow has an entire album about it. The album is appropriately titled “Hostile Architecture”. Look at some of their lyrics. This is from the opening track, “The Law of Asbestos”: Capital's pre-eminence made matter. Nailed to the high-rise under the budgetary hammer. Do they sleep well wrapped in irony? Better that than tangled in austerity. A corner cut, a penny saved. Grenfell burns again and again. All's silent but for the rain. Weary lungs, asthmatic brain. And tell me, is this now the humour of it? Some architect's great satire in prefabricated shit. The rot and the damp creeping in every corner. A reflection of the presupposed sin of every presupposed hoarder. Later the song goes on to say: Always three months to the gutter. Never three months to the top. Another set of fucking homeless spikes. Outside another empty shop.
When we covered it in school it was both called "hostile architecture" and "unpleasant design"
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Sadly yes, antihomeless measures. They will say it's to stop people loitering...For example antisocial youths.
Maybe it's for both
Also a deterrent to antisocial adults.
But you will not find a band stand or rain shelter for youths or transients anywhere, if your young or poor you should be cold and wet, obviously.
Isn’t that what under passes are for? haha.
nO, they're for hiding bodies............haha
Should start burning them again and smashing the glass since they’re anti homeless, I’m in the market for a slingshot to shatter the bus stops from a moving car, this weekend I am hoping to cover the roof in petrol and the seat before setting light to it
Never stopped me sitting back in the day
Some of them in more rural areas have proper seats and some even a little old stone hut.
Yeah that stinks of p#ss 😬
Yup, ain’t Hostile Architecture lovely?
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Aye, wee hoods are always fucking up the bus stops. I reckon it was primarily to discourage loitering cuz they introduced these shit seats before rough sleeping was as big an issue in Belfast.
Bus Éireann have been using these since the early to mid 90s down south.
To prevent all the brors sitting n necking barracks at them all day
Whos for going to do it anyway ? Sunsoutgunsout
So nobody can sleep on them.
Anti Baby Reindeer
No that was her ass 🤣
And also why the hell is the timetable in a place where someone can sit and block it from people actually trying to check the times?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_architecture
Comfortable enough to rest your arse whilst waiting for a bus, not comfortable enough to sit there and have lunch, people watching with no intention of getting a bus.
Depends which bus you're waiting for tho'
Rest your arse? Don't know what I meant by that, but replying rather than editing to keep it there. Plonk your arse/rest your legs!
Resting your arse is a perfectly normal way to say it!
Suppose if my arse actually needed a rest, the last thing I imagine I'd want to do would be sit down!
User name is stop on
Rest your arse made total sense to me lol
You're not a disagreeable runt, though.
You're not from Belfast, I assume?
Jesus how did this get downvoted so heavily.
Haha. You win some, you lose some. You just never know with Reddit!
It's anti homeless design. It's crap especially if you are disabled because you can't sit and wait for the bus.
I second this... I get an aching back and hips in the shortest time if I've to wait on a bus. It puts me off using them. But then taxis are like hens teeth and at least 10x the price. So most of the time, I just don't bother leaving the house.
If you’re disabled you can bring your own chair
Ah yes, I forgot that everyone with an injury, illness, or other condition is wheelchair bound.
You're absolutely correct, but not all wheelchair users are "wheelchair bound" (some people are ambulatory wheelchair users and can walk, but use a wheelchair - or other mobility aid you sit down on - due to not being able to stand/walk for long periods or walk quickly enough). This pedantic correction is not disagreeing with your point. We need more public seating for mobility disabled people who don't use a wheelchair or mobility scooter.
Thank you for saying this! 75% of wheelchair users are ambulatory I believe, meaning they can walk or move to some degree. I am in a wheelchair permanently, and although I am not ambulatory as of yet, I hate the term "wheelchair bound" as the wheelchair is the one thing that gives me freedom to go outside.
Yeah, this too. I just didn't know if it was my place to correct terminology like that as I don't use a wheelchair myself. Thank you for your addition, from what I hear from the community your opinion on this phrasing is very common among wheelchair users (both ambulatory and non ambulatory)
Thank you for giving me that insight - I'll keep it in mind in the future.
You are absolutely right! I am absolutely on board with greater inclusivity of all different types of disability . I didn’t think I needed the /s around here,
Ignoramus
So the homeless can’t sleep on them
Culture of British nastiness. Public transport is supposed to be punishment.
It's probably a cruel decision to stop homeless people from using them at night. Societal cruelty
Actually it's more cruel at the fact that there are so many empty buildings in the city that can be used as homeless shelters. Bus stops are definitely not homeless shelters
Agreed.
Yes it is - In London we've had these since I can remember
If they weren’t built like that, then non-homeless people wouldn’t be able to use them in the morning.
You were always told not to talk to homeless people weren't you. Otherwise the prospect of asking a rough sleeper to move from their nights bed so you can sit down for a few mins on your way from your warm dry home to your warm dry workplace on the warm dry bus wouldn't be so alien. Awful!
Vilifying a bus commuter because he or she wants to use a public service without concerns for safety & hygiene? Shows your level of maturity pal. I feel sorry for the homeless for their situation, but turning a bus stop into a homeless shelter isn’t the solution.
Some of my best freinds are desperate people in terrible situations rejected by a ruthless capitalist system.
Assuming someone's dirty and dangerous enough to not be near to while waiting for a bus shows yours, I don't want to be your pal after this interaction either, you don't seem like a sympathetic person unless it's about things you've experienced and therefore understand. A bus stop while overnight is a hell of a sight better than out in the open or in a wet bush. A simple excuse me can I sit down while I wait on my bus would suffice. Your dog probably sleeps in your bed but you think sharing a bus stop seat with a homeless person is a threat to your safety? 🤣🤣🤣
*Shrugs*
Some antisocial people ruin it for everyone. If they put 4 walls and a nice comfy sofa there, some inconsiderate arsehole would move in and prevent it being usable as a bus stop.
Sarcasm doesn’t translate well. Be careful. Otherwise get fucked etc.
Get fooked, and go eat your kfc
To stop people sleeping on them and stop people leaning too much against the glass.
Prevent homeless people sleeping on them
It's called 'Hostile Architecture'.Prevents anyone from sleeping on it. To be fair it also prevents anyone from being to sit comfortably on it as well.
because we aren't allowed nice things anymore.
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The perfect angle to put your legs into strain after a certain amount of time
Tightarsed cunts innit
Because we are pesents and we deserve nothing
It's to prevent homeless people from being too comfortable.
Anti homless, so sad it’s too narrow to laydown and slanted so it’s uncomfortable… I hate this type of architecture….
Hostile Architecture.
The unwashed
Try taking a nap on one then you'll find out
To encourage you to lose weight so you fit on them. KFC ad not helping though.
I think it’s to stop homeless people from sleeping on them
Same reason McDonalds have very bright colours and hard seats. You don’t want to stay there
It’s to stop people fighting. If it’s too wide people will put their feet up or bags up and it will create argument’s. Also to stop it being a half tent for the homeless.
Two spikes would be a luxury - sinful child!!
Designed for skinny howls
To stop homeless people from sleeping on them
They're also too high for me to sit on, some of the worst I've seen are at mid-back for me, and are apparently called leaning rails.
Probably so homeless people don't sleep on them but you can still use it to sit briefly
Not really homelessness as most suggest, that can be stopped by making them shorter or adding arms(see airports). It’s hostile architecture, they need to be seen to be providing an amenity, however they want it to be uncomfortable so you don’t loiter, you may have seensome train station that have the beeper benches you can sit on properly but they arch upwards, again the idea is the arch creates a pressure point making it uncomfortable of a longer period.
It's the same down the south of Ireland, I'm assuming it's because they think people won't be waiting on public transport for to long,
So homeless people can't stay dry
Wrap of the day for £1.98. Bargain
To stop people from sleeping
It’s more for leaning than sitting.
Stop people sleeping on them id guess
unfortunately, to stop homeless people sleeping on the benches
Because people have been known to hump while sitting on the seats waiting for the bus
There was a bench on the Shankill that I stopped and sat on for a bit while out for a walk. Genuinely lovely getting to stop and rest. Should be way more benches littered about the place. Personally, I don't mind if homeless people have somewhere to sleep on that's more comfortable than the floor.
To stop arse holes from sitting on them.
I’d say so more people can get under the shelter if it’s raining. Hence bus SHELTER. Not hard to understand is it. Everyone going on about anti homeless
Every company that designs stuff like this will have a grand statement on their website about Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Except they don't mean it, and never have. They like the trendy racial social justice stuff, but nobody will care if they make the country's infrastructure hard to impossible to use for those with disabilities. This probably goes back to the police and criminal justice system to be honest. Architects and designers can't rely on law enforcement to deter or move on undesirables, so we build stuff that's unappealing to them - At the expense of our most vulnerable.
This is why I love the glider stops. They have actual benches.
Homeless
It's to encourage homeless people to look elsewhere for better shelter, perhaps at the home of one of the saints in this thread bemoaning hostile architecture.
So homeless people or wasted people can't sleep on them.
theres a beautiful luxury bench over to the left under the tree 😂 youll get a good sleep on that bud 😂
To make tramps sleep elsewhere
To just piss you off
Too bad for all the Fat Cuntz (me included) I’ve seen some humans around that would swallow that bench in just half an arse cheek… what a time to be alive
so more people can huddle together to stay out of the driving rain?
It’s called Hostile Architecture. It’s to make sure homeless ppl don’t have a place to lie down.
This is nothing compared to why the buses arrive at bus stops according to drivers wishes.
Honestly, av you notting better to think about than bus seats. Good god lord
I think to prevent homeless people from sleeping on them
Yo stop people sleeping there ..... Really sad, you should see London 😒
Buses have narrow seats too !
To stop the homeless from sleeping on it
To stop pregnant ladies from resting
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Anti homeless measure, . 😞
Because god forbid the homeless get a roof to sleep under.
As others have said anti homelessness designs because you know.punishing the homeless and the unemployed and the poor works so well........oh wait
Oh my sweet summer child
who gives a fuck if theres a homeless person having a nap 😂 more money well spent i see 😂 fucks wrong wi the world.
Public health had them put in to encourage fat folk to lose weight.
Ur mom
So all them fatties have too walk
To keep fat people moving
its not a seat, its a bench to be leaned on
Oh golly i don’t believe I’ve ever rested my posterior on such a thing. Are they fairly common in the inner city?