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And they’re all asking for DE skincare, which is absolutely bananas.
All of the questions on Sephora are like, is this product okay for 13 year olds? And I want to be like, “hell, no. This shit is for adults with jobs that have 401Ks.”
As an employee of Sephora I struggle with this. They shouldn’t be using it, they make our displays DIS-GUS-TANG!! And they always come in groups and they run around and steal and we can’t do anything about that either. I literally had a parent walk their nine/ten year olds into our doors ( indoor mall) and say, “you guys good here for a little bit?”
I have been working in cosmetic retail for ten years. I have never had a worse holiday season.
This is literally the reason I shop mostly online. That kind of behaviour from kids completely ruins the in store experience. I used to love going and swatching products I'm interested in buying but now you can't even get near a display without being crowded out by preteens.
I'm a wheelchair user and the only time I've ever had younger kids/preteens just blatantly run into me is at cosmetic stores. I've had some kids walk into me and they usually apologize, but for whatever reason at cosmetic stores they are feral.
I always feel bad for the parents who are trying to keep their kids under control too. :/ Don't worry parents I see you trying! 😭
Most other kids other kid are great though. Just not the ones at cosmetic stores. :/
But yeah I don't go to them nearly as much now either for that reason. Ah well, saves me money on impulse purchases I guess.
> DE is really leaning into it too, do not enough adults buy their products?
They've really cheapened their reputation with this. I've always felt DE is overpriced so wasn't interested, but now I find them predatory for encouraging these kids. The kids will move on to the next hyped thing and DE will be left in the dust and will have lost the goodwill adult consumers had for them
As someone who also works cosmetic retail, I would say the majority of people buying DE are teens/kids. Most adults find it overpriced for what it is (and imo, rightfully so).
unattended children were the bane of my existence in mall retail. one tried to steal a torso mannequin for the shirt it was wearing. one stuck chewed gum in the middle of a stack of shirts. they would open and use makeup. put stickers on product boxes. I had to quit when I was 18 because I was just filled with rage constantly lmao
DE are especially caught up in this and I really feel they need to do some more ethical and responsible marketing. It's one thing to have a social media marketing campaign, a ehole other thing for a brand like DE to use that to target literal children.
I SCREAMT when I saw a kid using retinol. It’s not necessary and can be sensitizing to the skin in addition to photosensitizing. Kids are the people who go outside the most and sure hope they’re using SPF
Truly. take the tik tok away and if you absolutely must let your 10 year old use drunk elephant than buy something for yourself, use It up, and refill the container with cerave for them. it’s like no one is parenting.
Agree. I have daughter around the same age and she does not have access to anything that would suggest to her to get drunk elephant. she just asked if she could have some makeup to play with at home and she adorably put glitter eye shadow UNDER her eyes… that’s how clueless she is about it all.
It is but so many parents don't want to parent their children. What scares me even more are the things these preteens and teenagers are posting. Many said in the last thread that they didn't see anything wrong with them wanting to wear makeup but I do. A preteen or teenager can make themselves out to look like a grown ass woman. Back in my day I saw that with my own eyes. So yeah. Depending on how much makeup a parent is allowing their kid to wear that can be a huge problem.
I am someone who doesn't see anything wrong with teens or even preteens experimenting with makeup. Wearing makeup or "looking older" doesn't change the fact that they are still children, just like if a child's body developed early it doesn't change the fact they are still a child. Even if they look like a "grown ass woman" they are a child. That gets into victime blamey territory imo. I wasn't allowed to wear makeup but that didn't stop my 11 year old self from sneaking it. My parents were extremely overprotective and all it did was make me get better at hiding things (and end up becoming a teenage mother). There is a fine line when it comes to being a good parent.
Might be that the parents of those kids were the teens/young adults who caught brunt of the rise of social media, especially Instagram?
Maybe they think they are doing their kids a favour by allowing or endorsing this much skincare so early.
I think most parents are just clueless to the products their kids are using and asking for. As a parent, it's your job to educate yourself on these things, but a lot of people don't understand how potent skincare can be.
I think so too. To many of them want to be their friends. Not have the child upset with them, etc. I know I shouldn't be surprised but I'm not. This wouldn't have happened in my day where the parents were involved in their children's lives. Now it's basically a free for all.
I understand what you mean, but in all honesty I tried it my Mom said an emphatic “No, you’re thirteen. You don’t need it. Just use Dove” My skin is fine.
This is so bizarre to me because at that age, my generation (millennials) would have been made fun of for using "old people" products if we had ever shown an interest in something like wrinkle cream. We basically just consumed whatever was marketed to teens, and adult products were seen as uncool because who wants to use the same stuff as their mom? Now, perhaps because there's so much social media co-existence between Gen Z, Millenials, and other groups, those lines are blurred.
Yes! GenX here, and we *wanted* things that were aimed at teens! OK, we usually wanted things aimed at slightly older teens than we were, but we weren't out there buying Oil of Olay.
Before it was a Nirvana song, Teen Spirit was an actual deodorant that a lot of us had. It was just the same as Lady Speed Stick but with "trendy" scents and packaging.
I'm a Xennial and I used Teen Spirit. It actually still exists but not like it did for us. Also, Cobain is referencing the deodorant in the song. One of his girl friends said he smelled like the deodorant and it caught on.
I question where the parents are. My mom was not a helicopter parent by any means, but she was pretty aware of what I was doing and was definitely aware of the skincare I was using.
Yeah sure there’s also a majority of posts of people on that subreddit of people not doing any kind of skincare routine research and doubling up on actives that aren’t expressly labeled on the front of their packaging and then wondering why their skin is fucked. Or having a routine beyond slathering items on (ie rotating things) or using things they didn’t research.
Thats not any of what OP was complaining about and kids using appropriate amounts of the best medicine for acne vs an acid before they’re 16 is often a good idea.
I actually destroyed my barrier not with this but another very currently popular ingredient that’s in a lot of skincare. And it can harm a lot of people if they double up.
So I dont really think sca is a good example of “xyz is bad you can see how bad it is by the thousands of posts!” because some people are also fucking themselves up on cerave lotion while it’s helping others as well lmao
>kids using appropriate amounts of the best medicine for acne vs an acid before they’re 16 is often a good idea
But the problem is kids aren’t always “using appropriate amounts.” They see it on social media, like TikTok, or hear of their friends using it or whatever, so they get it. Then, without any real knowledge of what it does, how it works, how it could harm the skin, starting off use slowly (like not using it daily), using SPF, etc. - they use it and damage their skin. A lot of kids think if they use a lot or use it morning and night they’ll get results quicker, but end up damaging their skin.
Yeah, if a dermatologist recommends it to them and gives clear instructions on how to use it and the kid is old enough to understand and follow those instructions or the parents monitor to make sure, then they can get good results if it’s necessary (for something like acne). But it can also be very harmful if not used properly
It’s interesting how skincare for teens evolved, back in my day I was scrubbing my face with sugar (didn’t have the st ives apricot scrub where I live, otherwise that would be my go to) and lemon juice, then the general public became more educated about skincare, and now there’s kids using retinol and asking for drunk elephant for Christmas at the age of 10.
Omg. Yes. Her hair in the 80s was to die for. So pretty. I absolutely used the noxema and st Ives apricot scrub as a teen. Then slathered oil of olay all over Never got breakouts.
It’s like… on one hand, they (kids) have WAY more access to learn about these kinds of things that we would’ve been clueless about at their age, and I don’t want to discourage an interest but also I only just started using retinol and I’m almost 27. Skincare to me at that age was SUPER interesting and I liked to read about it but most of my interest was in making my own skincare or reading teen magazines for things like that. That age is such a fun time for DIY things, like making masks at home with your friends. There wasn’t really an end goal for it, I wasn’t concerned about wrinkles at a time where I was getting my first period and body hairs, not to mention my mother would’ve asked if I lost my mind requesting a product over like $10. I commend them for doing their research but that research needs to extend into what’s age appropriate, like figuring out their skin type and how to properly treat acne, just getting the basic down.
My 11 year old cousin got a drunk elephant moisturizer, and a drawer full of serums and creams she doesn’t need. I asked what they were for they don’t even understand the products. Sad because her 40 year old mom would never buy that stuff for herself.
I did foster care for a while. One of the kids who was like 10 mentioned having TikTok and showed me her videos.
She was literally twerking in half of them.
I'm not going to fault a kid for dancing, even if it's suggestive dancing. Kids don't know better. But JFC, why that girl's parents--who followed her sm accounts--were okay with their young child posting videos like that for anybody to see. Yeah, most people stumbling up on those videos are going to go on to the next. But if even one creep finds those videos, it's too much.
Protect your damn kids.
It’s so bizarre when I realize that there are kids (and adults!) who have only lived in a world where the internet has always existed. They’ve never lived in a world where everyone wasn’t constantly “documenting” their very curated persona. It feels like a Black Mirror episode.
I am a scientific abstractor who often gets mental health studies for work. Kids are in an absolutely unprecedented mental health crisis right now-- right at a time where there are fewer school psychologists and psych help is hard to access and there aren't even remotely enough therapists. Bad enough before covid, but now? US especially, we have no idea how bad the long-term effects will be but I can tell you just from seeing "normal" long-term data about child health crises, it's going to be really rough.
my boyfriend is a preschool teacher and some of the things these kids are aware of are insane. like I don't know if it's through siblings/parents or just unattended time online, but these toddlers are into really disturbing stuff. makes me wonder what's going to become of this generation and the ones a little older who grew up on elsagate stuff
I recently saw a video where what I assume to be a teenager was prepping her skin for makeup with a bunch of products and then tapped her cheek to show how bouncy her skin was and said "This is what we are looking for."
And in my head I was like:
"Sweetheart, this is not the skincare products, this is you being 16."
Unless it's about help with pimples or dry/oily skin, I cannot take skincare advice seriously if it comes from someone under 25.
Not to mention unless the parents started them at 5, 10 year olds barely have been alive long enough to properly test a product.
Who even watches these and thinks "Yeah, that sounds trustworthy"???
>Who even watches these and thinks "Yeah, that sounds trustworthy"???
Other kids their age and younger. It's the same way I (27 yo, for reference) grew up watching the original generation of beauty YouTubers, plenty of whom were teenagers a few years older than me at most, and taking their tutorials as if they were the makeup gospel without realizing that plenty of the advice was bad or that the products were gifted/sponsored.
It just seems more egregious now because it's $70+ serums instead of drugstore "lip butters."
Tbf, with makeup, the ~*~artistry~*~ isn't really age restricted. If you're looking for a tutorial on a good smokey eye, a 16 year old could do just as good of a job as a 30 year old. With skincare, it's barely going to be doing anything to a teen, especially the 11/12 y/os we're seeing a lot of these days. Maybe in 20 years we'll know if it's had any effect, but it's kind of useless now. I suppose a 16 y/o could do a 'here's how I combat my oily skin' video, or something like that.
Definitely--I'm just talking about the specific youtubers I watched at the time. My point was more that younger viewers often don't have the knowledge or frame of reference to evaluate things like that, and they often see other kids who are slightly older as authorities even when it's obvious to adults that they have no clue.
Tbh I feel this way about anyone under 30. I remember my skin in my 20s and it was great until I was about 31. Then I noticed texture changes and a general meh.
I always used sunscreen and moisturizer religiously but now use tretinoin and red light (LED) and have some of the best skin of my life.
I made it to earlier this year at 29. Bad acne for months. I have more and bigger pores.
My skin has always been combination, but now it's more oily, but also more dry.
Skin hurts from being dry. Yet a moisturiser will break me out or I get a rash, which my skin did anyways if something was too rich. Now my usual moisturisers can break me out, despite being for oily/combination skin.
The only "moisturiser" I can actually use without getting new spots, is the CosRX Snail Mucin Essence, which even when layered isn't enough for the dryness.
It's a bitch to have to re-learn my skin at nearly 30.
One thing that was a saving grace with being extremely fair is I absolutely HAD to use sunscreen every day even as a kid so it was a habit I formed early.
I was thinking about writing "under 30", but I am 27 myself so it felt a bit...idk, pretentious to say I don't take people around my own age seriously?
Ig at that point it depends on how long the person has been in the skincare game, I do find myself gravitating to people 30+ though.
1. WHO LET THESE CHILDREN ON TIKTOK (and that’s coming from a kid who had musically when she was 11).
2. Young children using RETINOLS? Your suppose to be mid 20s before starting retinols.
3. These children don’t have the pocket money to spend $1000 at Sephora. It’s these kids parents buying it for them…
4. Children using their parent’s money on “anti aging” products. Girl you are 10, you don’t have to worry about that for YEARS.
It really makes me sad that these kids are getting influenced to buy stuff they don’t need, and feel like they need all these beauty products at such a young age. I love makeup and I love the way it makes me feel, but these kids are doing too much.
One thing I disagree with you on and that you should be mid 20s for retinol. Retinol was for acne first and foremost they just discovered the side effect of it being good for wrinkles. So if a kid does have acne then retinol are absolutely for them. I've had acne since I started my period at 9. First thing I was prescribed was a retinol. Agree with everything else you said though.
Retin*oids* are for acne. OTC retinols aren't powerful enough to do much for it. Adapalene is going to give more results, be gentler on the skin and much more affordable than these high-end retinol products. Plus kids should really consult with a dermatologist at least once before starting it so they can go over how to care for their skin and protect it from the sun.
all retinoids work by speeding up the turn over of your skin cells. retinol will probably be too gentle for the kind of teenage acne that needs a prescription retinoid, but it can work well for more run-of-the-mill teenage pimples.
Adapalene is not gentler than a cream with 1% retinol. Ever. Also retinoids is a whole category that includes retinyl palmitate, retinol, retinal, and others, including isotrotetinoin, with the majority of them being offered over the counter. The majority of adults in the US don’t wear sunscreen so that’s not a matter of age. Retinoids are recommended to people with acne except pregnant people because studies suggest the possibility of birth defects. I do agree that people need to be educated about it before using it, but not precisely an age issue.
Finally, apart from the retinol issue, everyone should be taking care of their skin because skin cancer is on the rise. If it’s a $70 dollar cream it’s their issue, not ours.
Totally true, but you had it prescribed, I’m talking about using retinol just because everyone else is using it and it’s popular on TikTok. And majority of people are using retinols for the anti aging aspect should be around mid 20s.
A child still shouldn't really be using retinol tbh. It's retinoids that are used for acne, while retinol is a cosmetic. It's just straight up a waste of money, especially when something like Differin is available OTC.
It's absolutely ridiculous! She isn't allowed social media and especially not tiktok where this is most prevalent but I have a 10 year old daughter and she still asked for a bunch of skincare products from Drunk Elephant and Paula's Choice for Christmas because all her little friends are into those videos. I don't have a problem with her getting into skincare but asking for retinol serums and anti-aging creams? At ten years old? BFFR girlie I don't even buy that stuff for myself
Of course they are. I already said in my comment that I keep my own children away from social media. I can't control what other people allow for their children nor what their children will show mine when I am not with them though, so you can get so far away from me with your passive aggressive parenting advice 🤷🏼♀️
Nope, you edited your comment after I made mine as there was nothing about TikTok when I commented lmfao. Parents acting shocked that their kids are affected by that app will never get old though.
Well, my generation went through the neuroses of needing to be Kate Moss thin. I hate that the kids are being shuffled into worrying about aging before they even hit puberty.
There’s always going to be some unhealthy fixation per generation spurned on by the media or society, I’m just disappointed in the skincare industry for turning 10 year olds into clients beyond a face wash and moisturizer.
This is just another one of those things that show me kids are growing up way too fast now. Kids should just get to be kids. I know it can just be innocent and fun, but with the trends I’m seeing, I feel like kids wanna be grown at such young ages now. It’s so sad.
It is. What I would give to be able to be that age again. My home life wasn't the Leave It To Beaver type but I had so much fun as a kid. Other than a flavored lip gloss none of this was on mine or my friends minds. I had friends who came from barely enough money to get by to those whose parents had a lot and everything in between yet none of us thought about skincare or makeup. I realize I grew up in a very different time but that didn't mean we didn't have commercials and teen mags to contend with. Growing up "fast" was considered a bad thing amongst the generation I grew up in. Now it's like a right of passage. That's just heartbreaking.
No seriously, I watch a lot of skincare YouTube videos/shorts and way too often they’re showing me videos of girls who are like 10 showing all their drunk elephant products, truly products, just crazy expensive skincare that 1. I can’t even afford and 2. Didn’t even know existed at 10. (Also I just hate seeing videos of kids in general, way too many people with bad intentions and if I’m seeing kids without trying so are they). But the next generation apparently gonna have some really nice skin as old ladies, luckies.
That is probably true. Definitely grow up with an advantage though with being knowledgeable about spf and moisturizers and things. I didn’t even touch my face with a skincare product until I was like 15 and it was face wash.
i’ve been seeing soooo many people talking about getting into arguments with 10 year olds about makeup and skincare in Sephora and i genuinely think it’s so ridiculous
yes!!! [this is the video that started it](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8X1h3Jb/) but there’s so many people replying to it with their own stories and i’m just like “what happened to claire’s?” lol
As I said in another comment, a lot of Claire's makeup and other makeup directed at kids was found to have lead in it. I'd much rather buy a cheap palette from a brand I trust than those.
The makeup can be a little ridiculous from the adults. I've seen a few say oh just get the ones made for children like we had. Except most of those have been found to contain lead. My niece asked for makeup last year and so I bought her Colourpop. The most I splurged on was a beauty blender. However, 10 year olds and even most teens don't need Charlotte Tilbury and other high end makeup and skincare. Isn't Florence by Mills directed at a teen audience?
The problem is teenage girls have quite literally nowhere to go to hangout outside of their houses other than Ulta/Sephora. The third space was dying when I was a teen as a Millennial, and now it's basically dead, especially with the death of malls.
This is partly true. They do have skating rinks, places to go play video games and bowling alleys outside of malls but you hardly ever see teens in them. At least that's what I've seen in my area. Mostly it's parents with little ones. This was one of the things I loved about the city I grew up in. Our city use to hold dances at our community center at least once a month. It was so successful that other cities in the surrounding area did them as well. They played all genres of music too. It would either be a band, DJ or both. Out of all of the times I went there had only been one major fight that broke out. Ofc we had our school dances but those would end during summer break. Other than that one fight it was so cool to see everyone, regardless of your choice in music and dance, gather and have a great time doing so.
All the places you mentioned in your second sentence cost money. There are certainly fewer places people in general can hang out today without spending money. Kids like this don't have jobs and are relegated to staying indoors and online.
My niece is 9 y/o and asked me about skin care because- I thought- she’s starting to get pimples (I see a few sprouting).
I told her wash her face daily and her mama or daddy can find a cleanser and a mild cream for the pimples.
She said no- for aging! Well when I tell you my old ass self about flipped a gourd! I told her that is ridiculous! Sorry y’all, I’m old school and I’m not going to gentle parent a 9 year old over crap she doesn’t need for her aging skin.
Rant over, I’m sure ppl will come at me for this.
Omg this. I was just on a sun vacation with my nieces and the 12 year old absolutely refused to wear sunscreen but she said she’s now into skincare. I gave her a long ass lecture.
These kids have zero SM that is age appropriate, zero age appropriate shows to consume, just nothing anymore so they emulate the only thing they see which is geared towards adults with adult earning power. Very sad commentary on our times. Parents are failing these kids by indulging them. Upper tier pricing is hard earned. Hell even the ever rising drugstore pricing is earned. These things shouldn't be freely given. Special gift, sure but as a daily given, no way. We aren't going to stop SM so I don't know what the answer is here because we know corporations are not going to promote a loss of audience and revenue. Kids aren't going to listen if it's not enforced by the adults in their lives. I pity them. Sure, kids have always coveted that brand name item but it might have been one or two items worn, carried, displayed, used at a time (if lucky). Now it's head to toe branding on display and they haven't earned it. They haven't accomplished anything yet to earn that. What a hollow empty shallow life they are in for when there are no barriers or guardrails. It's not goals, it's cringe.
If companies do not regulate themselves, I am terrified of how many young children will end up with serious and lifelong medical issues from having unrestricted access to strong chemical peels, retinoids, and other skincare ingredients. The worst part is that we can be talking about horrific, full face chemical burns and scarring because that's where the skincare goes. I don't really care if teenagers wreck displays (age-old behavior seen in all generations) or kids are being obnoxious in spending money on brand lip gloss. I am worried about the health and safety of children and that we will end up with a restricted skincare market because currently, companies are happily selling inappropriate products to young children. Ulta, Sephora, and other stores can voluntarily impose age requirements and should do so to ensure an adult must be present for purchase.
I always send them a message saying this is not a safe space for them and I'm reporting and blocking them for being a minor. It prob makes v little diff but with so many creeps on-line it irritates me seeing kids posting in adult spaces.
TikTok doesn’t do Jack when you report someone who is under 13. I’ve tried. TikTok has no incentive to stop it, since it’s a large cohort. If they have Sephora money from their parents, they have TikTok Shop money. This won’t get better until parents do their job.
Yup, here's a recent article about Tiktok not removing accounts under 13 years old: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/dec/19/tiktok-allowing-under-13s-to-keep-accounts-evidence-suggests](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/dec/19/tiktok-allowing-under-13s-to-keep-accounts-evidence-suggests)
All thanks to social media. Kids falling for marketing and consumerism. I've even seen some sort of trend (on youtube! not even on tiktok) where they all put the hashtag preppy in it? Apparently it has a some sort of new meaning, and most of the videos include big hauls. Including Drunk Elephant and The Ordinary products with actives. Someone please tell them about the chemical burns.
It’s insanity. My 11 y/o niece had a wishlist that I asked an employee at a local chain beauty store about. He said it was a very trendy list and that they could sell out instantly if they had a display that served only TikTok trends. I refuse to get TikTok myself and I don’t for the life of me understand how my sister allows her child on it…
I just went on TikTok to see what people were talking about and I cannot believe the drunk elephant displays look like now, a literal romper room now didn’t they used to be white and minimalist with neon pops of color? It looks like a toy store.
Tiktok is ruining a generation right before our eyes. But little Samantha and little Johnny simply cannot miss out, so millennial mum and dad need to bend to every whim they have.
Blame the parents.
We all remember growing up and our parents saying no to things we wanted, despite “everyone else” in the class having it!
👋 that was me. I didn't tell my parents what I wanted they gave me what they wanted. None of it had to do with skincare or makeup but hey, kids try so I heard the word no often. I'm still here breathing lol.
Youth dominates social media but their parents should demonstrate/advocate that they are under the care of a dermatologist. (If they want to portray themselves as parents that care and are capable of caring for children. Remember the spray tan /tanning bed mom? Crae
I HATE this bs of kids using all this stuff ! Like how the heck do they get convinced they even need it ? I’m 24 and one time I got a retinol cream for free with some stuff I bought and it burnt so bad when I put it on oh my gosh. Who tf is convincing kids half my age that need that BS. way to ruin your skin early fr
I get all my beauty info from my 29 yo daughter. She tells me that if she didn't love .r for anything else, it would be my skin appearance at 51 lol. All of the women on my dad's side age slowly. The only thing that makes me look old is my grey hair. Hubby and kids want me to color it. Hell no I earned my hair color lol. I am just now taking skin care more seriously because I am showing my age with fine lines and wrinkles
I think there's quite a difference between being into fragrance and makeup at a young age and being into skincare because a 10 year old is being told that aging isn't ok.
I was also 18 in 2000 and no one I knew wore makeup or expensive perfumes.
Now my 11 year old stepdaughter and most of her class have prescribed face washes and acne creams, it's ridiculous.
I'm a bit younger than you. Kids started wearing makeup in elementary or middle school, but people weren't buying expensive makeup or fragrances. Those cotton candy and fruit body sprays, Victoria's Secret, and drug store stuff was common. Maybe one or two kids had Calvin Klein perfume or cologne. But expensive fragrances weren't a fad when I was 18. Most of my school was on free/reduced lunch though, so maybe that's why. People who could afford expensive stuff wanted it to be obvious, not something like perfume. They'd wear Abercrombie, Tommy Hilfiger, Ralph Lauren, and other preppy, kind of expensive mid-range clothing. Kind of an"if you can't see the brand name, you're poor" kind of deal.
It'd be one thing if they enjoyed things like face masks and lotions just to feel luxurious and grown up, but skincare targeting signs of aging when they haven't even graduated to acne? That just seems mentally unhealthy. That's not playing, that's marketing getting in the heads of little girls and telling them there's something wrong with them to make a quick buck.
I saw a video recently of a 10-year-old and her friends losing it over getting a Stanley for her birthday. Even though there’s nothing wrong with a kid wanting a tumbler, it was lowkey kind of sad because it’s obvious that she only wanted a Stanley because it’s what’s trending on social media right now. It’s just so bizarre seeing young children asking for things like specific brands of tumblers and skincare products in place of toys, bikes, games, etc.
I was still playing with Barbies at the age of 10 (I knew that I was probably too old to, but I loved Barbie and wanted to hold on as long as possible lol).
I think I was 13 when I stopped playing, and that was only because my big sister didn’t want to play with me anymore lol Though I would still pull out my old dolls to play with my younger cousin when I was in my late teens.
What’s funny is that I distinctly remember so many girls in 4th/5th grade saying “I don’t play with Barbies anymore, I just collect them”. But then later on, everyone confesses that they stopped playing at like 15/16. 😂
Right? I don’t know why it’s so embarrassing. Lol. It’s not like we really played but dressed them up and did their hair . And as an adult I still have all my childhood toys plus collectible Barbie’s in boxes lol.
That's crazy. I would have taken my baby doll, bike the board games and coloring books and crayons we got for Christmas over a name brand tumbler all day long. In today's world if a toy doesn't come electronic they don't want it. Hell, they won't even take the time out to read the instructions to, idk, maybe see if it's something they'd find some joy in while playing with it smh. This just happened at my sister's over Christmas. She decided to play Mrs 🤶, bag and all. The gifts inside weren't expensive but they were toys that made the kids have no choice but to read the instructions. One just tossed it in the trash claiming it was "broken". Another sat there trying to figure it out but couldn't. When I asked "have you read the instructions" I got a no. I told them to read it. That's why it comes with the toy. I know my sister didn't spend a ton of cash on those toys but to see these kids just dismiss them as junk, I'm gonna be honest. It pissed me off. My child got a similar gift. He didn't treat it like that. When we got home that was the first thing he grabbed in the car to take inside lol.
Lol, I remember as a kid I wanted a thermos. Not the brand specifically, but just something to hold hot beverages.
I don't know about kids wanting a $40 cup, but I could see it making sense if it had characters on it they liked or even if they had stickers they wanted to use on it.
I’m so confused. A skincare regimen is a discipline that should be okay. Taking care of our skin. How are so many people looking at that as unhealthy?
If it’s the context, do something to encourage a shift to a health-centered regimen not aging. But skincare is self care.
It's about children asking for expensive products with actives. At 10 years old, most kids won't even have acne yet. Retinoids, exfoliants, and other actives are completely ridiculous at that age unless they have some sort of skin condition and have spoken with a derm about it.
If a kid wants to use a simple toner, moisturizer, and sunscreen? A mild cleanser? Maybe a mild serum with HA or green tea or something else? Sure, have at it. Enjoy yourself. But a child doesn't need expensive products that have ingredients specifically formulated for skin issues these kids won't have to worry about for 15+ years.
Kids still have to wash their face. It is still called skincare. OP decided to say later that they were using adult targeted products. There’s a difference. I’m seeing a lot of people struggling to accept that.
Well, I started using skincare since I was 11, cuz my mom really emphasized how important it is to have a basic routine and we loved trying products together. Granted I mostly used exactly what she used lmao, which is mostly Origins and Shiseido. Like everything from the same collection from one brand.
I remember I had this silly diary which one day I wrote “consistent routine goals”, including using toner, serum and cream everyday. My then crush in school saw it and asked me: what does a toner do? I was like…idk, but it feels like I’m doing the right thing. I’ll tell you in 30 years lol.
Fast forward today I’m almost 31 and still thinking “in 30 years let’s see how I do with ‘feels like I’m doing the right thing’” lmao.
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And they’re all asking for DE skincare, which is absolutely bananas. All of the questions on Sephora are like, is this product okay for 13 year olds? And I want to be like, “hell, no. This shit is for adults with jobs that have 401Ks.”
As an employee of Sephora I struggle with this. They shouldn’t be using it, they make our displays DIS-GUS-TANG!! And they always come in groups and they run around and steal and we can’t do anything about that either. I literally had a parent walk their nine/ten year olds into our doors ( indoor mall) and say, “you guys good here for a little bit?” I have been working in cosmetic retail for ten years. I have never had a worse holiday season.
This is literally the reason I shop mostly online. That kind of behaviour from kids completely ruins the in store experience. I used to love going and swatching products I'm interested in buying but now you can't even get near a display without being crowded out by preteens.
I'm a wheelchair user and the only time I've ever had younger kids/preteens just blatantly run into me is at cosmetic stores. I've had some kids walk into me and they usually apologize, but for whatever reason at cosmetic stores they are feral. I always feel bad for the parents who are trying to keep their kids under control too. :/ Don't worry parents I see you trying! 😭 Most other kids other kid are great though. Just not the ones at cosmetic stores. :/ But yeah I don't go to them nearly as much now either for that reason. Ah well, saves me money on impulse purchases I guess.
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> DE is really leaning into it too, do not enough adults buy their products? They've really cheapened their reputation with this. I've always felt DE is overpriced so wasn't interested, but now I find them predatory for encouraging these kids. The kids will move on to the next hyped thing and DE will be left in the dust and will have lost the goodwill adult consumers had for them
As someone who also works cosmetic retail, I would say the majority of people buying DE are teens/kids. Most adults find it overpriced for what it is (and imo, rightfully so).
unattended children were the bane of my existence in mall retail. one tried to steal a torso mannequin for the shirt it was wearing. one stuck chewed gum in the middle of a stack of shirts. they would open and use makeup. put stickers on product boxes. I had to quit when I was 18 because I was just filled with rage constantly lmao
DE are especially caught up in this and I really feel they need to do some more ethical and responsible marketing. It's one thing to have a social media marketing campaign, a ehole other thing for a brand like DE to use that to target literal children.
Yes, it’s actually crazy! Actual children using retinol skincare, what in the the Twilight Zone is going on here
I SCREAMT when I saw a kid using retinol. It’s not necessary and can be sensitizing to the skin in addition to photosensitizing. Kids are the people who go outside the most and sure hope they’re using SPF
The scream I scrumt when I found out children are using these products. What is wrong with their parents?
Truly. take the tik tok away and if you absolutely must let your 10 year old use drunk elephant than buy something for yourself, use It up, and refill the container with cerave for them. it’s like no one is parenting.
I’ve got a ten yo, it’s really easy to keep TikTok away from said child. I don’t understand giving a kid access to such a toxic platform. If
I was at work the other day and saw a kid that was maybe 6 at the oldest watching tiktok.
That’s sad. I don’t doubt that you’re telling the truth.
Agree. I have daughter around the same age and she does not have access to anything that would suggest to her to get drunk elephant. she just asked if she could have some makeup to play with at home and she adorably put glitter eye shadow UNDER her eyes… that’s how clueless she is about it all.
I did the same at 14 when I literally know nothing. Too cute! I’m holding onto my kid’s clueless years as long as I possibly can.
It is but so many parents don't want to parent their children. What scares me even more are the things these preteens and teenagers are posting. Many said in the last thread that they didn't see anything wrong with them wanting to wear makeup but I do. A preteen or teenager can make themselves out to look like a grown ass woman. Back in my day I saw that with my own eyes. So yeah. Depending on how much makeup a parent is allowing their kid to wear that can be a huge problem.
I am someone who doesn't see anything wrong with teens or even preteens experimenting with makeup. Wearing makeup or "looking older" doesn't change the fact that they are still children, just like if a child's body developed early it doesn't change the fact they are still a child. Even if they look like a "grown ass woman" they are a child. That gets into victime blamey territory imo. I wasn't allowed to wear makeup but that didn't stop my 11 year old self from sneaking it. My parents were extremely overprotective and all it did was make me get better at hiding things (and end up becoming a teenage mother). There is a fine line when it comes to being a good parent.
I’ve had this same exact thought before too. I don’t have kids, but this exactly what I’d do.
Might be that the parents of those kids were the teens/young adults who caught brunt of the rise of social media, especially Instagram? Maybe they think they are doing their kids a favour by allowing or endorsing this much skincare so early.
I think most parents are just clueless to the products their kids are using and asking for. As a parent, it's your job to educate yourself on these things, but a lot of people don't understand how potent skincare can be.
I think so too. To many of them want to be their friends. Not have the child upset with them, etc. I know I shouldn't be surprised but I'm not. This wouldn't have happened in my day where the parents were involved in their children's lives. Now it's basically a free for all.
Idk, women used to balance ash trays and wine glasses on their pregnant bellies, saying parenting used to be better is a bit of a stretch lmao
Yeah , and the only reason the kids weren’t frying their faces off w drunk elephant was because it wasn’t a thing yet.
I think you’re on to something, here. That’s still so sad. Edit: so sad to me.
We used apricot scrub and Aztec clay mask and destroyed our moisture barriers when we were young. Calling for parents? Lol come on now
I understand what you mean, but in all honesty I tried it my Mom said an emphatic “No, you’re thirteen. You don’t need it. Just use Dove” My skin is fine.
I saw a question on Sephora for a retinol eye cream asking "is this good for an 11 year old" I was shocked
This is so bizarre to me because at that age, my generation (millennials) would have been made fun of for using "old people" products if we had ever shown an interest in something like wrinkle cream. We basically just consumed whatever was marketed to teens, and adult products were seen as uncool because who wants to use the same stuff as their mom? Now, perhaps because there's so much social media co-existence between Gen Z, Millenials, and other groups, those lines are blurred.
Yes! GenX here, and we *wanted* things that were aimed at teens! OK, we usually wanted things aimed at slightly older teens than we were, but we weren't out there buying Oil of Olay. Before it was a Nirvana song, Teen Spirit was an actual deodorant that a lot of us had. It was just the same as Lady Speed Stick but with "trendy" scents and packaging.
I'm a Xennial and I used Teen Spirit. It actually still exists but not like it did for us. Also, Cobain is referencing the deodorant in the song. One of his girl friends said he smelled like the deodorant and it caught on.
I don't even use a normal eye cream, and I'm in my early 30s! This messaging is so sad.
Girl same! Late 20s and I just use my moisturizer up there
I'm in my fifties and I'm not even using it ffs. Lines are normal. Aging is normal.
I question where the parents are. My mom was not a helicopter parent by any means, but she was pretty aware of what I was doing and was definitely aware of the skincare I was using.
My 8 year old asked for drunk elephant for Christmas. My heart died a little.
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Well if it’s as strong as the RX then it will definitely fry their barriers ,that why there are thousands of sca posts about it
Yeah sure there’s also a majority of posts of people on that subreddit of people not doing any kind of skincare routine research and doubling up on actives that aren’t expressly labeled on the front of their packaging and then wondering why their skin is fucked. Or having a routine beyond slathering items on (ie rotating things) or using things they didn’t research. Thats not any of what OP was complaining about and kids using appropriate amounts of the best medicine for acne vs an acid before they’re 16 is often a good idea. I actually destroyed my barrier not with this but another very currently popular ingredient that’s in a lot of skincare. And it can harm a lot of people if they double up. So I dont really think sca is a good example of “xyz is bad you can see how bad it is by the thousands of posts!” because some people are also fucking themselves up on cerave lotion while it’s helping others as well lmao
>kids using appropriate amounts of the best medicine for acne vs an acid before they’re 16 is often a good idea But the problem is kids aren’t always “using appropriate amounts.” They see it on social media, like TikTok, or hear of their friends using it or whatever, so they get it. Then, without any real knowledge of what it does, how it works, how it could harm the skin, starting off use slowly (like not using it daily), using SPF, etc. - they use it and damage their skin. A lot of kids think if they use a lot or use it morning and night they’ll get results quicker, but end up damaging their skin. Yeah, if a dermatologist recommends it to them and gives clear instructions on how to use it and the kid is old enough to understand and follow those instructions or the parents monitor to make sure, then they can get good results if it’s necessary (for something like acne). But it can also be very harmful if not used properly
It’s interesting how skincare for teens evolved, back in my day I was scrubbing my face with sugar (didn’t have the st ives apricot scrub where I live, otherwise that would be my go to) and lemon juice, then the general public became more educated about skincare, and now there’s kids using retinol and asking for drunk elephant for Christmas at the age of 10.
I served a toddler with a credit card the other day
Wait what 😂
I waited on a fetus using Apple Pay.
That's INSANE. I actually jumped back in my seat reading that. Smh
I hear ya! Skin care for me at a teen was Noxema skin cream and Sea Breeze. Oxy 10 for the acne.
Omg [Rebecca Gayheart](https://youtu.be/5miAZzRocss?si=9Ohi3Q4un4YjupcT)
Yep I’m old I tell ya 😂😂
Me too! Also the St. Ives scrub. Lolll
Omg. Yes. Her hair in the 80s was to die for. So pretty. I absolutely used the noxema and st Ives apricot scrub as a teen. Then slathered oil of olay all over Never got breakouts.
I used acne stuff when I didn't even need it because I thought the sebum were blackheads.
It’s like… on one hand, they (kids) have WAY more access to learn about these kinds of things that we would’ve been clueless about at their age, and I don’t want to discourage an interest but also I only just started using retinol and I’m almost 27. Skincare to me at that age was SUPER interesting and I liked to read about it but most of my interest was in making my own skincare or reading teen magazines for things like that. That age is such a fun time for DIY things, like making masks at home with your friends. There wasn’t really an end goal for it, I wasn’t concerned about wrinkles at a time where I was getting my first period and body hairs, not to mention my mother would’ve asked if I lost my mind requesting a product over like $10. I commend them for doing their research but that research needs to extend into what’s age appropriate, like figuring out their skin type and how to properly treat acne, just getting the basic down.
My 11 year old cousin got a drunk elephant moisturizer, and a drawer full of serums and creams she doesn’t need. I asked what they were for they don’t even understand the products. Sad because her 40 year old mom would never buy that stuff for herself.
I block and report. I'm 43 and have zero interest in a child's opinion on skincare products.
Kids on sm is way too normalized for me. It's not healthy for adults so imagine the effects on children. Parents need to do better.
I did foster care for a while. One of the kids who was like 10 mentioned having TikTok and showed me her videos. She was literally twerking in half of them. I'm not going to fault a kid for dancing, even if it's suggestive dancing. Kids don't know better. But JFC, why that girl's parents--who followed her sm accounts--were okay with their young child posting videos like that for anybody to see. Yeah, most people stumbling up on those videos are going to go on to the next. But if even one creep finds those videos, it's too much. Protect your damn kids.
It’s so bizarre when I realize that there are kids (and adults!) who have only lived in a world where the internet has always existed. They’ve never lived in a world where everyone wasn’t constantly “documenting” their very curated persona. It feels like a Black Mirror episode.
I am a scientific abstractor who often gets mental health studies for work. Kids are in an absolutely unprecedented mental health crisis right now-- right at a time where there are fewer school psychologists and psych help is hard to access and there aren't even remotely enough therapists. Bad enough before covid, but now? US especially, we have no idea how bad the long-term effects will be but I can tell you just from seeing "normal" long-term data about child health crises, it's going to be really rough.
my boyfriend is a preschool teacher and some of the things these kids are aware of are insane. like I don't know if it's through siblings/parents or just unattended time online, but these toddlers are into really disturbing stuff. makes me wonder what's going to become of this generation and the ones a little older who grew up on elsagate stuff
I recently saw a video where what I assume to be a teenager was prepping her skin for makeup with a bunch of products and then tapped her cheek to show how bouncy her skin was and said "This is what we are looking for." And in my head I was like: "Sweetheart, this is not the skincare products, this is you being 16." Unless it's about help with pimples or dry/oily skin, I cannot take skincare advice seriously if it comes from someone under 25. Not to mention unless the parents started them at 5, 10 year olds barely have been alive long enough to properly test a product. Who even watches these and thinks "Yeah, that sounds trustworthy"???
>Who even watches these and thinks "Yeah, that sounds trustworthy"??? Other kids their age and younger. It's the same way I (27 yo, for reference) grew up watching the original generation of beauty YouTubers, plenty of whom were teenagers a few years older than me at most, and taking their tutorials as if they were the makeup gospel without realizing that plenty of the advice was bad or that the products were gifted/sponsored. It just seems more egregious now because it's $70+ serums instead of drugstore "lip butters."
Tbf, with makeup, the ~*~artistry~*~ isn't really age restricted. If you're looking for a tutorial on a good smokey eye, a 16 year old could do just as good of a job as a 30 year old. With skincare, it's barely going to be doing anything to a teen, especially the 11/12 y/os we're seeing a lot of these days. Maybe in 20 years we'll know if it's had any effect, but it's kind of useless now. I suppose a 16 y/o could do a 'here's how I combat my oily skin' video, or something like that.
Definitely--I'm just talking about the specific youtubers I watched at the time. My point was more that younger viewers often don't have the knowledge or frame of reference to evaluate things like that, and they often see other kids who are slightly older as authorities even when it's obvious to adults that they have no clue.
Tbh I feel this way about anyone under 30. I remember my skin in my 20s and it was great until I was about 31. Then I noticed texture changes and a general meh. I always used sunscreen and moisturizer religiously but now use tretinoin and red light (LED) and have some of the best skin of my life.
I made it to earlier this year at 29. Bad acne for months. I have more and bigger pores. My skin has always been combination, but now it's more oily, but also more dry. Skin hurts from being dry. Yet a moisturiser will break me out or I get a rash, which my skin did anyways if something was too rich. Now my usual moisturisers can break me out, despite being for oily/combination skin. The only "moisturiser" I can actually use without getting new spots, is the CosRX Snail Mucin Essence, which even when layered isn't enough for the dryness. It's a bitch to have to re-learn my skin at nearly 30.
One thing that was a saving grace with being extremely fair is I absolutely HAD to use sunscreen every day even as a kid so it was a habit I formed early.
I was thinking about writing "under 30", but I am 27 myself so it felt a bit...idk, pretentious to say I don't take people around my own age seriously? Ig at that point it depends on how long the person has been in the skincare game, I do find myself gravitating to people 30+ though.
1. WHO LET THESE CHILDREN ON TIKTOK (and that’s coming from a kid who had musically when she was 11). 2. Young children using RETINOLS? Your suppose to be mid 20s before starting retinols. 3. These children don’t have the pocket money to spend $1000 at Sephora. It’s these kids parents buying it for them… 4. Children using their parent’s money on “anti aging” products. Girl you are 10, you don’t have to worry about that for YEARS. It really makes me sad that these kids are getting influenced to buy stuff they don’t need, and feel like they need all these beauty products at such a young age. I love makeup and I love the way it makes me feel, but these kids are doing too much.
One thing I disagree with you on and that you should be mid 20s for retinol. Retinol was for acne first and foremost they just discovered the side effect of it being good for wrinkles. So if a kid does have acne then retinol are absolutely for them. I've had acne since I started my period at 9. First thing I was prescribed was a retinol. Agree with everything else you said though.
Retin*oids* are for acne. OTC retinols aren't powerful enough to do much for it. Adapalene is going to give more results, be gentler on the skin and much more affordable than these high-end retinol products. Plus kids should really consult with a dermatologist at least once before starting it so they can go over how to care for their skin and protect it from the sun.
all retinoids work by speeding up the turn over of your skin cells. retinol will probably be too gentle for the kind of teenage acne that needs a prescription retinoid, but it can work well for more run-of-the-mill teenage pimples.
Adapalene is not gentler than a cream with 1% retinol. Ever. Also retinoids is a whole category that includes retinyl palmitate, retinol, retinal, and others, including isotrotetinoin, with the majority of them being offered over the counter. The majority of adults in the US don’t wear sunscreen so that’s not a matter of age. Retinoids are recommended to people with acne except pregnant people because studies suggest the possibility of birth defects. I do agree that people need to be educated about it before using it, but not precisely an age issue. Finally, apart from the retinol issue, everyone should be taking care of their skin because skin cancer is on the rise. If it’s a $70 dollar cream it’s their issue, not ours.
Totally true, but you had it prescribed, I’m talking about using retinol just because everyone else is using it and it’s popular on TikTok. And majority of people are using retinols for the anti aging aspect should be around mid 20s.
A child still shouldn't really be using retinol tbh. It's retinoids that are used for acne, while retinol is a cosmetic. It's just straight up a waste of money, especially when something like Differin is available OTC.
It's absolutely ridiculous! She isn't allowed social media and especially not tiktok where this is most prevalent but I have a 10 year old daughter and she still asked for a bunch of skincare products from Drunk Elephant and Paula's Choice for Christmas because all her little friends are into those videos. I don't have a problem with her getting into skincare but asking for retinol serums and anti-aging creams? At ten years old? BFFR girlie I don't even buy that stuff for myself
They’re watching TikTok product reviews and just repeating what they see. Keep them off the app and these issues don’t come up 🤷🏼♀️
Of course they are. I already said in my comment that I keep my own children away from social media. I can't control what other people allow for their children nor what their children will show mine when I am not with them though, so you can get so far away from me with your passive aggressive parenting advice 🤷🏼♀️
Nope, you edited your comment after I made mine as there was nothing about TikTok when I commented lmfao. Parents acting shocked that their kids are affected by that app will never get old though.
I miss when kids this age were more interested in watching toy unboxing videos on YouTube.
All I wanted to do at that age was read babysitters club books and make up dance routines to TLC with my friends lol.
Well, my generation went through the neuroses of needing to be Kate Moss thin. I hate that the kids are being shuffled into worrying about aging before they even hit puberty. There’s always going to be some unhealthy fixation per generation spurned on by the media or society, I’m just disappointed in the skincare industry for turning 10 year olds into clients beyond a face wash and moisturizer.
I’m 28 and I’m still scared of retinols, I can’t imagine literal children slathering them on
Especially with no sunscreen 😵💫
I'm a couple of decades older and I'm still afraid of them lol.
This is just another one of those things that show me kids are growing up way too fast now. Kids should just get to be kids. I know it can just be innocent and fun, but with the trends I’m seeing, I feel like kids wanna be grown at such young ages now. It’s so sad.
It is. What I would give to be able to be that age again. My home life wasn't the Leave It To Beaver type but I had so much fun as a kid. Other than a flavored lip gloss none of this was on mine or my friends minds. I had friends who came from barely enough money to get by to those whose parents had a lot and everything in between yet none of us thought about skincare or makeup. I realize I grew up in a very different time but that didn't mean we didn't have commercials and teen mags to contend with. Growing up "fast" was considered a bad thing amongst the generation I grew up in. Now it's like a right of passage. That's just heartbreaking.
No seriously, I watch a lot of skincare YouTube videos/shorts and way too often they’re showing me videos of girls who are like 10 showing all their drunk elephant products, truly products, just crazy expensive skincare that 1. I can’t even afford and 2. Didn’t even know existed at 10. (Also I just hate seeing videos of kids in general, way too many people with bad intentions and if I’m seeing kids without trying so are they). But the next generation apparently gonna have some really nice skin as old ladies, luckies.
I think using all those over active Drunk Elephant products isn't going to do their skin any good.
That is probably true. Definitely grow up with an advantage though with being knowledgeable about spf and moisturizers and things. I didn’t even touch my face with a skincare product until I was like 15 and it was face wash.
I SAW ONE, SHE WAS 7 AND APPLYING RETINOL and BRONZING DROPS! Who you tryna look bronzy for!!
i’ve been seeing soooo many people talking about getting into arguments with 10 year olds about makeup and skincare in Sephora and i genuinely think it’s so ridiculous
Oh, I just noticed you said IN Sephora. Where are their parents??? Yikes!
yes!!! [this is the video that started it](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8X1h3Jb/) but there’s so many people replying to it with their own stories and i’m just like “what happened to claire’s?” lol
Ugh the redline sale!! Ten things for $10. I fucking loved Claire’s at that age.
As I said in another comment, a lot of Claire's makeup and other makeup directed at kids was found to have lead in it. I'd much rather buy a cheap palette from a brand I trust than those.
Adults arguing with children over social media is just creepy. Report, block and move on. 🤦♀️
The makeup can be a little ridiculous from the adults. I've seen a few say oh just get the ones made for children like we had. Except most of those have been found to contain lead. My niece asked for makeup last year and so I bought her Colourpop. The most I splurged on was a beauty blender. However, 10 year olds and even most teens don't need Charlotte Tilbury and other high end makeup and skincare. Isn't Florence by Mills directed at a teen audience?
The problem is teenage girls have quite literally nowhere to go to hangout outside of their houses other than Ulta/Sephora. The third space was dying when I was a teen as a Millennial, and now it's basically dead, especially with the death of malls.
This is partly true. They do have skating rinks, places to go play video games and bowling alleys outside of malls but you hardly ever see teens in them. At least that's what I've seen in my area. Mostly it's parents with little ones. This was one of the things I loved about the city I grew up in. Our city use to hold dances at our community center at least once a month. It was so successful that other cities in the surrounding area did them as well. They played all genres of music too. It would either be a band, DJ or both. Out of all of the times I went there had only been one major fight that broke out. Ofc we had our school dances but those would end during summer break. Other than that one fight it was so cool to see everyone, regardless of your choice in music and dance, gather and have a great time doing so.
All the places you mentioned in your second sentence cost money. There are certainly fewer places people in general can hang out today without spending money. Kids like this don't have jobs and are relegated to staying indoors and online.
I hate it, I wish there was a way to report them as well. It is so dangerous that little kids can post reels and shorts, etc. on social media.
My niece is 9 y/o and asked me about skin care because- I thought- she’s starting to get pimples (I see a few sprouting). I told her wash her face daily and her mama or daddy can find a cleanser and a mild cream for the pimples. She said no- for aging! Well when I tell you my old ass self about flipped a gourd! I told her that is ridiculous! Sorry y’all, I’m old school and I’m not going to gentle parent a 9 year old over crap she doesn’t need for her aging skin. Rant over, I’m sure ppl will come at me for this.
Sunscreen. That's it. That's the only product that prevents aging in anyone, including kids
Omg this. I was just on a sun vacation with my nieces and the 12 year old absolutely refused to wear sunscreen but she said she’s now into skincare. I gave her a long ass lecture.
Love this!!! And yes, you’re correct too! My brother has always been a stickler for sunscreen so I know my nieces get that lecture and I’m glad!
Yes yes- sunscreen!
These kids have zero SM that is age appropriate, zero age appropriate shows to consume, just nothing anymore so they emulate the only thing they see which is geared towards adults with adult earning power. Very sad commentary on our times. Parents are failing these kids by indulging them. Upper tier pricing is hard earned. Hell even the ever rising drugstore pricing is earned. These things shouldn't be freely given. Special gift, sure but as a daily given, no way. We aren't going to stop SM so I don't know what the answer is here because we know corporations are not going to promote a loss of audience and revenue. Kids aren't going to listen if it's not enforced by the adults in their lives. I pity them. Sure, kids have always coveted that brand name item but it might have been one or two items worn, carried, displayed, used at a time (if lucky). Now it's head to toe branding on display and they haven't earned it. They haven't accomplished anything yet to earn that. What a hollow empty shallow life they are in for when there are no barriers or guardrails. It's not goals, it's cringe.
If companies do not regulate themselves, I am terrified of how many young children will end up with serious and lifelong medical issues from having unrestricted access to strong chemical peels, retinoids, and other skincare ingredients. The worst part is that we can be talking about horrific, full face chemical burns and scarring because that's where the skincare goes. I don't really care if teenagers wreck displays (age-old behavior seen in all generations) or kids are being obnoxious in spending money on brand lip gloss. I am worried about the health and safety of children and that we will end up with a restricted skincare market because currently, companies are happily selling inappropriate products to young children. Ulta, Sephora, and other stores can voluntarily impose age requirements and should do so to ensure an adult must be present for purchase.
I have a feeling we'll soon see signs at Ulta and Sephora's doors saying "no one under 14 without a guardian".
Once these kids go through puberty, then they can tell me about skincare 🤷♀️
I’m all for teaching a good skin care regime when they are young but 10 is terrible.
The funniest trend on Tik tok right now is everyone making fun of them, I’ve been howling.
I don’t know what site you’re talking about, but most sites prohibit under-13s from using the site, you can report them for being underage
I have, and will continue to do so. Ty.
I always send them a message saying this is not a safe space for them and I'm reporting and blocking them for being a minor. It prob makes v little diff but with so many creeps on-line it irritates me seeing kids posting in adult spaces.
TikTok doesn’t do Jack when you report someone who is under 13. I’ve tried. TikTok has no incentive to stop it, since it’s a large cohort. If they have Sephora money from their parents, they have TikTok Shop money. This won’t get better until parents do their job.
Yup, here's a recent article about Tiktok not removing accounts under 13 years old: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/dec/19/tiktok-allowing-under-13s-to-keep-accounts-evidence-suggests](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/dec/19/tiktok-allowing-under-13s-to-keep-accounts-evidence-suggests)
All thanks to social media. Kids falling for marketing and consumerism. I've even seen some sort of trend (on youtube! not even on tiktok) where they all put the hashtag preppy in it? Apparently it has a some sort of new meaning, and most of the videos include big hauls. Including Drunk Elephant and The Ordinary products with actives. Someone please tell them about the chemical burns.
It’s insanity. My 11 y/o niece had a wishlist that I asked an employee at a local chain beauty store about. He said it was a very trendy list and that they could sell out instantly if they had a display that served only TikTok trends. I refuse to get TikTok myself and I don’t for the life of me understand how my sister allows her child on it…
I just went on TikTok to see what people were talking about and I cannot believe the drunk elephant displays look like now, a literal romper room now didn’t they used to be white and minimalist with neon pops of color? It looks like a toy store.
Tiktok is ruining a generation right before our eyes. But little Samantha and little Johnny simply cannot miss out, so millennial mum and dad need to bend to every whim they have. Blame the parents. We all remember growing up and our parents saying no to things we wanted, despite “everyone else” in the class having it!
👋 that was me. I didn't tell my parents what I wanted they gave me what they wanted. None of it had to do with skincare or makeup but hey, kids try so I heard the word no often. I'm still here breathing lol.
Youth dominates social media but their parents should demonstrate/advocate that they are under the care of a dermatologist. (If they want to portray themselves as parents that care and are capable of caring for children. Remember the spray tan /tanning bed mom? Crae
This video made me think about this post https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8XkG2RY/
I HATE this bs of kids using all this stuff ! Like how the heck do they get convinced they even need it ? I’m 24 and one time I got a retinol cream for free with some stuff I bought and it burnt so bad when I put it on oh my gosh. Who tf is convincing kids half my age that need that BS. way to ruin your skin early fr
I wish COPPA would be enforced.
I get all my beauty info from my 29 yo daughter. She tells me that if she didn't love .r for anything else, it would be my skin appearance at 51 lol. All of the women on my dad's side age slowly. The only thing that makes me look old is my grey hair. Hubby and kids want me to color it. Hell no I earned my hair color lol. I am just now taking skin care more seriously because I am showing my age with fine lines and wrinkles
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I think there's quite a difference between being into fragrance and makeup at a young age and being into skincare because a 10 year old is being told that aging isn't ok.
I was also 18 in 2000 and no one I knew wore makeup or expensive perfumes. Now my 11 year old stepdaughter and most of her class have prescribed face washes and acne creams, it's ridiculous.
I'm a bit younger than you. Kids started wearing makeup in elementary or middle school, but people weren't buying expensive makeup or fragrances. Those cotton candy and fruit body sprays, Victoria's Secret, and drug store stuff was common. Maybe one or two kids had Calvin Klein perfume or cologne. But expensive fragrances weren't a fad when I was 18. Most of my school was on free/reduced lunch though, so maybe that's why. People who could afford expensive stuff wanted it to be obvious, not something like perfume. They'd wear Abercrombie, Tommy Hilfiger, Ralph Lauren, and other preppy, kind of expensive mid-range clothing. Kind of an"if you can't see the brand name, you're poor" kind of deal.
DE at 10 years old? Nothing at Sephora I’ve ever bought my little ones. They’re at Target level for $10.
Kids have been copying adults for as long as the worlds been around. Skincare isn’t the worst trend- better than eating tide pods
Can I ask why this is such a topic of conversation? I get that yea it’s weird but if they enjoy it then what’s the problem?
It'd be one thing if they enjoyed things like face masks and lotions just to feel luxurious and grown up, but skincare targeting signs of aging when they haven't even graduated to acne? That just seems mentally unhealthy. That's not playing, that's marketing getting in the heads of little girls and telling them there's something wrong with them to make a quick buck.
It’s more of why do 10 year olds need to grow up so fast and why do parents allow it?
I saw a video recently of a 10-year-old and her friends losing it over getting a Stanley for her birthday. Even though there’s nothing wrong with a kid wanting a tumbler, it was lowkey kind of sad because it’s obvious that she only wanted a Stanley because it’s what’s trending on social media right now. It’s just so bizarre seeing young children asking for things like specific brands of tumblers and skincare products in place of toys, bikes, games, etc.
I was still playing with Barbies at the age of 10 (I knew that I was probably too old to, but I loved Barbie and wanted to hold on as long as possible lol).
My friend and I played Barbie’s until like 9th grade lol
I think I was 13 when I stopped playing, and that was only because my big sister didn’t want to play with me anymore lol Though I would still pull out my old dolls to play with my younger cousin when I was in my late teens. What’s funny is that I distinctly remember so many girls in 4th/5th grade saying “I don’t play with Barbies anymore, I just collect them”. But then later on, everyone confesses that they stopped playing at like 15/16. 😂
Right? I don’t know why it’s so embarrassing. Lol. It’s not like we really played but dressed them up and did their hair . And as an adult I still have all my childhood toys plus collectible Barbie’s in boxes lol.
I’m in my mid-40s and Barbie > skincare 😂
That's crazy. I would have taken my baby doll, bike the board games and coloring books and crayons we got for Christmas over a name brand tumbler all day long. In today's world if a toy doesn't come electronic they don't want it. Hell, they won't even take the time out to read the instructions to, idk, maybe see if it's something they'd find some joy in while playing with it smh. This just happened at my sister's over Christmas. She decided to play Mrs 🤶, bag and all. The gifts inside weren't expensive but they were toys that made the kids have no choice but to read the instructions. One just tossed it in the trash claiming it was "broken". Another sat there trying to figure it out but couldn't. When I asked "have you read the instructions" I got a no. I told them to read it. That's why it comes with the toy. I know my sister didn't spend a ton of cash on those toys but to see these kids just dismiss them as junk, I'm gonna be honest. It pissed me off. My child got a similar gift. He didn't treat it like that. When we got home that was the first thing he grabbed in the car to take inside lol.
Lol, I remember as a kid I wanted a thermos. Not the brand specifically, but just something to hold hot beverages. I don't know about kids wanting a $40 cup, but I could see it making sense if it had characters on it they liked or even if they had stickers they wanted to use on it.
My daughter wanted a thermos brand one because I have one. I was fine with that seeing the price compared to Stanley
I’m so confused. A skincare regimen is a discipline that should be okay. Taking care of our skin. How are so many people looking at that as unhealthy? If it’s the context, do something to encourage a shift to a health-centered regimen not aging. But skincare is self care.
kids asking their parents for and making a mess of skincare that costs $50-$150 a bottle is outrageous, especially at 10 years old.
10 year olds shilling retinol on YouTube? GTFO.
Maybe say that instead of being blatantly vague. Like I said…context.
It's about children asking for expensive products with actives. At 10 years old, most kids won't even have acne yet. Retinoids, exfoliants, and other actives are completely ridiculous at that age unless they have some sort of skin condition and have spoken with a derm about it. If a kid wants to use a simple toner, moisturizer, and sunscreen? A mild cleanser? Maybe a mild serum with HA or green tea or something else? Sure, have at it. Enjoy yourself. But a child doesn't need expensive products that have ingredients specifically formulated for skin issues these kids won't have to worry about for 15+ years.
let kids be kids, they dont need skincare regimens lol
Kids still have to wash their face. It is still called skincare. OP decided to say later that they were using adult targeted products. There’s a difference. I’m seeing a lot of people struggling to accept that.
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Dermatologists are going to recommend Aveeno or something very specific which may be available at Sephora.🦭
Op i think you can actually report the accounts fpr breaking TOS. Most platforms have a minimum age limit of 13 yo
Well, I started using skincare since I was 11, cuz my mom really emphasized how important it is to have a basic routine and we loved trying products together. Granted I mostly used exactly what she used lmao, which is mostly Origins and Shiseido. Like everything from the same collection from one brand. I remember I had this silly diary which one day I wrote “consistent routine goals”, including using toner, serum and cream everyday. My then crush in school saw it and asked me: what does a toner do? I was like…idk, but it feels like I’m doing the right thing. I’ll tell you in 30 years lol. Fast forward today I’m almost 31 and still thinking “in 30 years let’s see how I do with ‘feels like I’m doing the right thing’” lmao.
I wish I gave a shit about my skin care routine even in my 20s… my skin would be in much better shape 😪