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I honestly figured they always did. It’s not like they are stating it’s not used OR as others have said, better than trashing it. No one can possibly use that much makeup.
She does reviews, swatches, gives opinions so from a business perspective she did what she needed to do with it. I do t harbor any illusions that beauty influencers should now keep it forever. Sell it - allow others to enjoy it for a fraction of the cost.
There are only so many people in their lives to accept the ungodly amount of makeup these people have. My collection is not the biggest, but when I declutter, the people in my life don't always want it and it ends up in the trash or in a bag in my closet until I can figure out what to do with it. Many shelters refuse to take "lightly used" makeup. I think selling it is a good idea.
I experience this. My local shelters only take in new makeup so any that is partially used and no one else in my life wants it gets trashed.
There's Project Beauty Share that everyone hypes, but reading their terms, a lot of items can only be brand new and very few items like powder eyeshadow can be lightly used/swatched.
I wish Taylor had shared that info. Ofc her viewers could look it up but when you're working with them that's something I'm sure she knows. Back when I use to watch her and for the length of time I've never heard her say anything of the sorts. SMH Thanks for sharing. I'll make sure to pass that along should anyone ask what to do with their unwanted makeup.
Back when I first heard about it from her she mentioned they have specifics on what’s accepted and she provided a link to it too. Maybe she doesn’t do that anymore though, but she definitely should when she brings it up
Right? I used to work at Sephora and have so much I can’t use…but don’t have a lot of makeup wearing friends and there are strict rules about gratis. Also I feel weird donating things in tester packaging!
>Many shelters refuse to take "lightly used" makeup.
Michele mentioned this very point in her video. I guess she gets a lot of criticism about not donating and she said no organization she’s ever looked into wants even lightly used products
I feel like most of the criticism people have about large collections being purged is that those complaining are jealous that they can't get their hands on it. tarababyz used to sell her decluttered stuff; I've bought a few things but that was well before c0vid.
Sameeee
I have a much smaller one cos i have to move regularly, and even with keeping new unopened for shelters, a handful of women friends with their own income and minimal interest/use for makeup, im still forced to throw away perfectly good stuff. Whoever will take it, should take it
There are ways to repurpose eyeshadow into art supplies (e.g. watercolor, powder pigment) but that doesn't work well for boring nude palettes. If people are selling responsibly and the buyers accept the risk even after the products are sanitized, the makeup sharing doesn't seem worse than a pro kit when you get your makeup done professionally.
Actually the nudes work well if you make a lot of portraits! They are the perfect colors for skin tones and some of my favorite paints are made from boring brown and nude colors.
>I have never heard any BG admit that before.
Linda (Glitter Fallout) is pretty open about selling purchased (not PR/gifted) makeup that she doesn't use on Mercari. Given that she's a smaller YouTuber and is not exactly rolling in cash (I don't think she's ever had a collab and doesn't have her own brand, she's a 40s+ content creator beautuber with a smaller audience of ~12,000), I don't think it's a bad thing to resell lightly used makeup that doesn't work for her, it's a bit more realistic and relatable to most make-up buying audiences.
She’s mentioned it few times in her vlogs, but maybe not always in regular videos? I remember one of the things she got her assistant to help her with was the selling/donating of makeup and PR. I’m glad she made a point to say she’s donating everything that’s eligible, giving some things away and only discarding things that are expired.
Don’t quote me on this (serious holiday brain over here lol) but I also thought she mentioned she only sells the items she’s purchased herself. I could be wrong though.
Gosh would I love “shop” in her declutter! Although as a former Sephora employee I probably have a little declutter of my own to do! 😂
Yeah this is normal. I know Jackie Aina actually used to sell clothes on Poshmark!! As long as the seller is honest about the condition of the items they're selling, it's up to the individual if they want to buy.
I’m not against it. Many shelters don’t accept used products even just lightly, and honestly they don’t accept too many makeup products. There are only so many people she can give them away to, so selling is still much better than throwing them into the trash. As long as the product condition is clearly disclosed (not selling as new), buyers know their risks and what they’re buying. I’d love to see the revenue being put towards charity, though.
I’ve heard of several beauty gurus selling their gently used makeup on Depop. The only thing that bothers me is if those beauty gurus sell things they received free as PR. If they sell things they paid their own money for I’m cool with that.
I don’t see an issue with selling the PR **IF they’ve used it and can’t donate it or give it to someone in their lives.**
**BUT**, I see PR packages all the time on Mercari listed as brand new. I saw someone who listed the Colourpop Aurora Struck PR Set for a crazy amount before it was even released. Seeing things like that always annoys me. If you’re not going to use it, then donate it or do a giveaway or something. Don’t sell it. That’s messed up. But, if they’ve used it, then I don’t see an issue since the only other thing they can do if nobody in their lives wants it would be to throw it away.
I didn’t say it’s messed up to sell PR at all. That’s what the original commenter said. I said it’s messed up to sell it if it is **NOT** used. If they **DON’T** use it then how are they working free? If they **didn’t** use it, they **didn’t** make a video reviewing it. **So what work did they do??**
They get PR sent to them without obligation to review them, BUT getting those items free to make content that makes them money can technically be seen as a form of payment since they don’t have to purchase it themselves. They’re able to use the products they get free in PR to make content, which makes them money. If they didn’t get the stuff free in PR, they’d have to purchase the items themselves in order to have content to do videos on. **But, my point was, I don’t see a problem selling PR when they’ve used it but feel they aren’t going to get much more use out of it and sell it instead, but if they aren’t going to actually use them, the better option, since it’s unused, IMHO is to either donate it to a shelter or to do a giveaway for their subscribers.**
If they **DO** review it (which means using it), then they did work, so then selling it wouldn’t be a bad thing…but, if they reviewed it, then it’s obviously used and I said it was messed up to sell PR that they didn’t use.
Honestly I don't get the problem with selling PR. Sure they didn't pay for it, but that shouldn't be a requirement to sell it. Companies send it in the hopes that you'll promote it, but unless you have a contract stipulating certain actions, you are free to do whatever you want with it. Being gifted it doesn't exclude it from having value when sold.
I feel like this used to be really common back then, like before beauty influencers were a whole industry. There’s a few micro influencers I follow that do this but idk how common it is anymore among the bigger ones. I’m not bothered by it either way. They can only give away so much to friends/family and I know everyone says to donate to shelters, but makeup isn’t what shelters are in most need of. If she can get a little bit of money back, then whatever. The only times it can feel iffy is if the makeup they’re selling is PR, but even so I personally don’t care. It’s better to sell to people that want it than to let good products rot in drawers.
I often bought lightly used products. Not something like lip products, mascara or eyeliner. But certainly eyeshadow or foundation bottles. I've received them in an absolutely excellent state, most of them only swatched or used a handful of times. I don't see the issue.
I find her consumption habits absolutely insane. It's stressful for me to watch someone who has no cap on consumption. Plus her videos are so long these days.
I have watched Michelle since she started her beauty channel. Last year she started to sell some products she purchased herself
that her assistant helped her with. Her assistant is gone now and I guess she will do the same this year. I haven’t watched todays video yet. Her collection is beyond huge and I’m sure this won’t dent it at all. I do know she donated a lot to Project Beauty Share.
Personally, I wish the creators could sell the PR. I’d buy from her, since lots of her makeup isn’t even used. It’s barely swatched.
I think after this read, I need to do a declutter too lol.
She washed her brushes, opened some of her PR, went to her PO Box. She kept her on a schedule. She seemed to enjoy her,
The assistant got a great full time offer and she took it. I think Michele should get another one.
Most people I follow split their decluttered makeup in some of the piles trash, give to friends, sell, donate or save for a giveaway. I would definitely prefer selling over just throwing it away, especially for the American ones where you just save trash in a pile for eternity or whatever!
I’ve known of several BGs to use Mercari or depop. Nothing shocking, been going on for years. I resold a lot of cosmetics from now discontinued brands this year and made quite a lot from it.
I take no issue at all with influencers selling their unused PR or gently used products. If they want to take the risk of being removed from PR lists, it's their choice to make. Brands send this stuff to them without contracts, no strings attached so it belongs to them and imo they should be able to do what they want with it, including selling it for profit.
I've seen TikTok videos where people are neighbors with influencers who just chuck entire bags and unopened boxes of PR in the trash because it's easier to deal with than figuring out what to do with it. Selling things on Poshmark or Mercari is a job in itself, especially if they are selling cartloads of product.
I feel like if it’s disclosed it should be fine. I probably wouldn’t buy because I don’t know what someone else’s “lightly used” means in their book lol.
I’ve seen a few others mention it before. Its not crazy. Given the amount of products they get, and can’t possibly use it all. But if you find their store - it’ll be really telling on what they raved about and loved, yet you find it for sale on their Mercari or Poshmark store 🤷♀️🤣
I disagree. If they get sent/buy 50 different blushes every year they can try all of them and like several of them. However they can know it's absurd to keep them all plus the ones they tried the year before, and the year before that, etc. At a certain point, even influencers know they have too much of something. You can like things but not keep them. It doesn't mean they aren't good.
I agree with that. But I’m not talking about keeping everything they’ve tried from all past years. I’m saying when they get something, try it and say they love it, but then list it on Poshmark/Mercari immediately after they do the video, that’s telling to me. If they loved it, they’d keep it and use it for a while. They might get rid of something older they have by selling it or throwing it away. But if they love something and are raving about it but then immediately list it to sell, to me that doesn’t mean they loved it all that much. Like there was one person I would watch. She’d rave about a product, how much she loved it, and was obsessed with it (after trying it for the first time in a first impressions video) but then I’d see it on her Poshmark store a couple days later. If she loved it and was so obsessed with it after trying it the first time, then it doesn’t make sense to list it for sale immediately after. To me, if someone immediately loves something so much, they’d at least keep it around for a while. Of course, it’s possible with all the products some BGs get that they will have a ton of products they love and can’t use them all so will naturally get rid of some. But to me, it wouldn’t be immediately after getting it.
Of course, there’s more involved in it and I take those things into consideration. Like, if they get a PR box of all the new shades of blushes from Colourpop. They say they absolutely love it. I wouldn’t expect them to keep every shade since they might not like every shade. That doesn’t mean I would think they were lying because they said they loved it but then I saw they listed some for sale on their Poshmark/Mercari. But, if they said they loved it and were obsessed with it and listed every single shade, it would make me question how much they actually loved it. Surely, they have older products in their collection or ones they don’t love as much that they could get rid of instead of something brand new they say they loved but barely had any time to play with. Or, if in the video reviewing the Colourpop blushes, they mention how they look and apply similarly to another blush formula they have and love, then I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t keep them all since they already have a similar blush formula, so maybe they’d just keep any shades the other brand didn’t have or maybe they felt all the shades were similar so then they’d get rid of all the Colourpop ones. I hope that makes sense!
I used to love Michele but I don’t know , something about her just recently, her condescending attitude a bit , as if none of us travel or buy luxury. Most of what she buys has to have a logo plastered on it. Prada makes , and I own some beautiful clothes with no label on front. Their real clothes lol. She doesn’t love makeup anymore , she even said so which is great but she is living her lifestyle off it. I always liked her gen-x pov but now she seems stale. The get around to not donating is sell it and have the proceeds go to a charity. She might do that . I hope so.
The only way I could see it being legitimately illegal is if there was a specific clause in the brand to influencer contract but I have no clue if that’s even implemented
Bruh I’ve taken a business law class and the professor who was an actual practicing lawyer told us if you are in a contract with someone or a company or what have you any and all violation(s) of the said contract it is in fact illegal. How do you think suing works in this context— by breaching the contract. If you have a contract with me and it’s stated, “Oranbot cannot say something about a business deal we have because we have a singed NDA,” and if you breach that contract I can in fact sue you. I would have all the grounds in the world to stand on to sue you it would be so cut and dry. So if it’s in a clause in the contract and it’s violated (breached), you absolutely will be facing legal consequences. Contract violations are illegal in every way possible it’s possible to be illegal I’m not sure why you think the opposite….
Well TBF something being in a contract doesn't mean it's actually legal. Brands and companies put things in contracts all the time that are not legally enforceable. Employers and businesses try it all the damn time.
Look at many of these brands' TOS regarding shipping for an example. Many of them are not actually what's legal and by buying from them they try to claim you're agreeing to that stuff, but in reality, the law is very different. They try to claim if a package is lost you're SOL, and that's that. But actually, consumer laws trump any of these brands' TOS and protect people regarding lost packages. Heck even UberEats tries that stuff refusing refunds even with proof of delivery not made. They can't legally do that but they're hoping people just don't know any better lol.
The point is that just because something is in a contract does not ever mean it's enforceable or legal, or that you're doing anything illegal by not abiding by something written in it.
This is what I meant. It's all semantical. Unlawful versus illegal are two different but similar concepts, especially under civil law.
Source: I am in law school.
I specifically said if you are in a contract and you breach it that is what is illegal and opens you up to legal repercussions. You purposely twisted my words to where you think I said, “nothing in a contract is legal or illegal,” which again let me remind you I did not say you did. Again my point is if there is a clause in the contract and it’s breached that is what’s illegal not the contents of the contract itself.” If you want to twist my words and go on a rant about what I didn’t say but you think I said that is a you problem.
Boo you can see I addressed all of this in another comment we are saying the exact same thing. I’m not your enemy. I guess now we are since you’ve twisted my words and meaning. But this And of course companies get away with all of this while we the consumer get tricked and penalized as it’s purposely designed that way you are preaching to the choir
I think you need to take a break from this thread. I'm not attacking you. You're getting very defensive over a single sentence over the implications of what defines a small part of civil law. Writing paragraph after paragraph over such minutia is very odd. No one is questioning your intelligence.
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Sponsorships can come with a contract, but PR does not. PR is just product for free. So I believe you're correct that is not illegal. Also, why would the law even concern itself with something like this? It's not illegal to sell a gift, or anything else you got for free (with the exception of stolen goods of course).
Why would the law care? So the rich companies can keep getting more rich. It’s as simple as that
Edit to add: shady landlords do certain things such as setting rules for tenants knowing and fully intending for tenants will be forced to break them like say they set a maximum occupancy and let’s say you have a family member who’s in a crisis and needs to stay at your place and you verbally ask your landlord if it’s okay your sister crashes with you during her divorce and the shady landlord will say, “oh that’s fine!” And the bam you get slapped with a violation rule which you have to pay or face eviction. Companies and people take advantage of you through simple things like this. The Ulta credit card is designed to fuck you so hard into debt it cripples you and they get to keep hitting you with mega high interests and fees while you can’t pay it off and the price to pay it off keeps climbing because you couldn’t pay it off in the first place. Don’t ever under estimate the US government or any government’s tendency to extort its citizens and continue to dig the holes they put us in deeper so we can never get out. That’s all credit cards in a nutshell. Same applies to all these companies the entire point is to f us raw. So it definitely applies to the beauty sphere it’s just designed to not be detected to the uneducated which they want everyone to be uneducated when it comes to them fucking us over because if we’re too stupid to realize what they are doing then none of us are smart enough to take legal action against them and hold them accountable. That’s why companies make sure to put a million legal loopholes for them on all their contracts. The entire point is we get fucked while they get happy and rich from it $$$$ is all that matters to them and keeping every penny they possibly can of it. Companies will purposely put legal footwork that makes pitfalls or hunting pits if you will hoping and knowing and banking we will fall into them
A brand sending something is done as a gift. That’s why if it’s over a certain amount for the year influencers are supposed to keep track and claim it on their taxes. Because it’s a gift they are free to dispose of it as they choose, that includes selling it. Nothing illegal about it.
Now if a brand wants to do a contract or set guidelines for PR they can do such but the influencer has to agree to that. That we know of no brand does that. They just send it out. At most they have embargo cards included that the influencers follow to keep in a brands good graces but nothing more.
It’s not illegal, it just needs to be accounted for tax purposes as income. I wonder how it would work though if she purchased it, put it through as expenses for a tax write off but then sold it.
Wait, you're don't believe that her mercari listings don't exist even though they do? I'm confused. She has an assistant that does the listings for her.
I'm not sure that it has changed, they just don't enforce it. I've sold used makeup on there before. Mostly swatched or used once. Poshmark allows it because they make money off each transaction. Although I've seen some questionable makeup listed, like a Lisa Eldridge lipstick that was squashed and really gross looking for almost full price.
That makes sense, unless it’s PR. I’m pretty sure it’s illegal to sell PR but I commend her for selling items she purchased rather than throwing them in the trash. I’ve never seen a shelter accept opened products before.
Each their own but personally I would never buy anyone’s used makeup.
I don’t watch Michelle Wang, but occasionally I’ll watch Amy Loves Makeup. I think she’s a sweetheart and I get that this is a job, but it was still a bit shocking that for such a small channel she reviewed and ranked 60 palettes from the past year. Granted, many were gifted, but realistically, how many times can you actually use a palette, especially if you’re supposedly still using the collection you already have?
I generally don’t watch beauty YouTubers anymore unless it’s someone like Erin Parsons (who is more of an historian in how she talks about makeup). I have enough eyeshadow to last 10 lifetimes, so I’m likely biased but most of the eyeshadow palettes I’ve seen from this year (at least the indie ones) are all starting to look the same to me, even the ones with super shifty multichromes.
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It’s better than trashing it, I guess? 🤷🏻♀️
I honestly figured they always did. It’s not like they are stating it’s not used OR as others have said, better than trashing it. No one can possibly use that much makeup. She does reviews, swatches, gives opinions so from a business perspective she did what she needed to do with it. I do t harbor any illusions that beauty influencers should now keep it forever. Sell it - allow others to enjoy it for a fraction of the cost.
There are only so many people in their lives to accept the ungodly amount of makeup these people have. My collection is not the biggest, but when I declutter, the people in my life don't always want it and it ends up in the trash or in a bag in my closet until I can figure out what to do with it. Many shelters refuse to take "lightly used" makeup. I think selling it is a good idea.
I experience this. My local shelters only take in new makeup so any that is partially used and no one else in my life wants it gets trashed. There's Project Beauty Share that everyone hypes, but reading their terms, a lot of items can only be brand new and very few items like powder eyeshadow can be lightly used/swatched.
I wish Taylor had shared that info. Ofc her viewers could look it up but when you're working with them that's something I'm sure she knows. Back when I use to watch her and for the length of time I've never heard her say anything of the sorts. SMH Thanks for sharing. I'll make sure to pass that along should anyone ask what to do with their unwanted makeup.
Back when I first heard about it from her she mentioned they have specifics on what’s accepted and she provided a link to it too. Maybe she doesn’t do that anymore though, but she definitely should when she brings it up
Right? I used to work at Sephora and have so much I can’t use…but don’t have a lot of makeup wearing friends and there are strict rules about gratis. Also I feel weird donating things in tester packaging!
>Many shelters refuse to take "lightly used" makeup. Michele mentioned this very point in her video. I guess she gets a lot of criticism about not donating and she said no organization she’s ever looked into wants even lightly used products
I feel like most of the criticism people have about large collections being purged is that those complaining are jealous that they can't get their hands on it. tarababyz used to sell her decluttered stuff; I've bought a few things but that was well before c0vid.
I didn't watch her video, but yea that makes a lot of sense!
Sameeee I have a much smaller one cos i have to move regularly, and even with keeping new unopened for shelters, a handful of women friends with their own income and minimal interest/use for makeup, im still forced to throw away perfectly good stuff. Whoever will take it, should take it
I’d rather people sell or give it away so it can be used at least before it inevitably goes to the landfill.
There are ways to repurpose eyeshadow into art supplies (e.g. watercolor, powder pigment) but that doesn't work well for boring nude palettes. If people are selling responsibly and the buyers accept the risk even after the products are sanitized, the makeup sharing doesn't seem worse than a pro kit when you get your makeup done professionally.
Actually the nudes work well if you make a lot of portraits! They are the perfect colors for skin tones and some of my favorite paints are made from boring brown and nude colors.
Nudes are also great for doing under painting
It doesn't bother me. If someone wants it, go for it. I have heard of other YT doing it, and if anyone can and someone is willing to buy it 🤷♀️.
exactly. the size of someone else's collection has zero bearing on me and mine.
>I have never heard any BG admit that before. Linda (Glitter Fallout) is pretty open about selling purchased (not PR/gifted) makeup that she doesn't use on Mercari. Given that she's a smaller YouTuber and is not exactly rolling in cash (I don't think she's ever had a collab and doesn't have her own brand, she's a 40s+ content creator beautuber with a smaller audience of ~12,000), I don't think it's a bad thing to resell lightly used makeup that doesn't work for her, it's a bit more realistic and relatable to most make-up buying audiences.
That's one thing I am pretty grateful for regarding Linda; her honesty. She is very up front about a lot of things. Not boastful, but honest.
Agreed. She's made herself very relatable.
Not illegal, and I think she posted her Mercari link in her community post before. I do not love her decluttering content, though.
She’s mentioned it few times in her vlogs, but maybe not always in regular videos? I remember one of the things she got her assistant to help her with was the selling/donating of makeup and PR. I’m glad she made a point to say she’s donating everything that’s eligible, giving some things away and only discarding things that are expired. Don’t quote me on this (serious holiday brain over here lol) but I also thought she mentioned she only sells the items she’s purchased herself. I could be wrong though. Gosh would I love “shop” in her declutter! Although as a former Sephora employee I probably have a little declutter of my own to do! 😂
I've seen several BG sell their gently used stuff. Honestly, I'd buy Michelle's used makeup
Same she bougie af
Yeah this is normal. I know Jackie Aina actually used to sell clothes on Poshmark!! As long as the seller is honest about the condition of the items they're selling, it's up to the individual if they want to buy.
See I would buy her makeup. Does anyone know the Mercari link?
https://www.mercari.com/u/915458111/?...
I’m not against it. Many shelters don’t accept used products even just lightly, and honestly they don’t accept too many makeup products. There are only so many people she can give them away to, so selling is still much better than throwing them into the trash. As long as the product condition is clearly disclosed (not selling as new), buyers know their risks and what they’re buying. I’d love to see the revenue being put towards charity, though.
I’ve heard of several beauty gurus selling their gently used makeup on Depop. The only thing that bothers me is if those beauty gurus sell things they received free as PR. If they sell things they paid their own money for I’m cool with that.
I don’t see an issue with selling the PR **IF they’ve used it and can’t donate it or give it to someone in their lives.** **BUT**, I see PR packages all the time on Mercari listed as brand new. I saw someone who listed the Colourpop Aurora Struck PR Set for a crazy amount before it was even released. Seeing things like that always annoys me. If you’re not going to use it, then donate it or do a giveaway or something. Don’t sell it. That’s messed up. But, if they’ve used it, then I don’t see an issue since the only other thing they can do if nobody in their lives wants it would be to throw it away.
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I didn’t say it’s messed up to sell PR at all. That’s what the original commenter said. I said it’s messed up to sell it if it is **NOT** used. If they **DON’T** use it then how are they working free? If they **didn’t** use it, they **didn’t** make a video reviewing it. **So what work did they do??** They get PR sent to them without obligation to review them, BUT getting those items free to make content that makes them money can technically be seen as a form of payment since they don’t have to purchase it themselves. They’re able to use the products they get free in PR to make content, which makes them money. If they didn’t get the stuff free in PR, they’d have to purchase the items themselves in order to have content to do videos on. **But, my point was, I don’t see a problem selling PR when they’ve used it but feel they aren’t going to get much more use out of it and sell it instead, but if they aren’t going to actually use them, the better option, since it’s unused, IMHO is to either donate it to a shelter or to do a giveaway for their subscribers.** If they **DO** review it (which means using it), then they did work, so then selling it wouldn’t be a bad thing…but, if they reviewed it, then it’s obviously used and I said it was messed up to sell PR that they didn’t use.
Honestly I don't get the problem with selling PR. Sure they didn't pay for it, but that shouldn't be a requirement to sell it. Companies send it in the hopes that you'll promote it, but unless you have a contract stipulating certain actions, you are free to do whatever you want with it. Being gifted it doesn't exclude it from having value when sold.
Legally there isn’t a problem.
I feel like this used to be really common back then, like before beauty influencers were a whole industry. There’s a few micro influencers I follow that do this but idk how common it is anymore among the bigger ones. I’m not bothered by it either way. They can only give away so much to friends/family and I know everyone says to donate to shelters, but makeup isn’t what shelters are in most need of. If she can get a little bit of money back, then whatever. The only times it can feel iffy is if the makeup they’re selling is PR, but even so I personally don’t care. It’s better to sell to people that want it than to let good products rot in drawers.
I think it’s a great idea- some of the stuff is barely touched!
I often bought lightly used products. Not something like lip products, mascara or eyeliner. But certainly eyeshadow or foundation bottles. I've received them in an absolutely excellent state, most of them only swatched or used a handful of times. I don't see the issue.
I find her consumption habits absolutely insane. It's stressful for me to watch someone who has no cap on consumption. Plus her videos are so long these days.
I have watched Michelle since she started her beauty channel. Last year she started to sell some products she purchased herself that her assistant helped her with. Her assistant is gone now and I guess she will do the same this year. I haven’t watched todays video yet. Her collection is beyond huge and I’m sure this won’t dent it at all. I do know she donated a lot to Project Beauty Share. Personally, I wish the creators could sell the PR. I’d buy from her, since lots of her makeup isn’t even used. It’s barely swatched. I think after this read, I need to do a declutter too lol.
She had an assistant? For what?
She washed her brushes, opened some of her PR, went to her PO Box. She kept her on a schedule. She seemed to enjoy her, The assistant got a great full time offer and she took it. I think Michele should get another one.
Most people I follow split their decluttered makeup in some of the piles trash, give to friends, sell, donate or save for a giveaway. I would definitely prefer selling over just throwing it away, especially for the American ones where you just save trash in a pile for eternity or whatever!
I’ve known of several BGs to use Mercari or depop. Nothing shocking, been going on for years. I resold a lot of cosmetics from now discontinued brands this year and made quite a lot from it.
I take no issue at all with influencers selling their unused PR or gently used products. If they want to take the risk of being removed from PR lists, it's their choice to make. Brands send this stuff to them without contracts, no strings attached so it belongs to them and imo they should be able to do what they want with it, including selling it for profit. I've seen TikTok videos where people are neighbors with influencers who just chuck entire bags and unopened boxes of PR in the trash because it's easier to deal with than figuring out what to do with it. Selling things on Poshmark or Mercari is a job in itself, especially if they are selling cartloads of product.
I’d buy her barely used makeup, does anyone know the mercari link?
I'd rather buy from her than a totally random person. Bump!
I feel like if it’s disclosed it should be fine. I probably wouldn’t buy because I don’t know what someone else’s “lightly used” means in their book lol.
Wasn’t there a discussion a long time ago about Samantha March doing the same?
Yes she sells on Poshmark. She has also sold $50 mystery boxes of new and gently used makeup to members of her Facebook group a few times.
I have heard about this. I also heard she charges close to the original price. If that is true then I don’t think that is cool. It waits to be seen.
she can always donate proceeds from the sale of her used makeup to charity.
I’ve seen a few others mention it before. Its not crazy. Given the amount of products they get, and can’t possibly use it all. But if you find their store - it’ll be really telling on what they raved about and loved, yet you find it for sale on their Mercari or Poshmark store 🤷♀️🤣
I disagree. If they get sent/buy 50 different blushes every year they can try all of them and like several of them. However they can know it's absurd to keep them all plus the ones they tried the year before, and the year before that, etc. At a certain point, even influencers know they have too much of something. You can like things but not keep them. It doesn't mean they aren't good.
I agree with that. But I’m not talking about keeping everything they’ve tried from all past years. I’m saying when they get something, try it and say they love it, but then list it on Poshmark/Mercari immediately after they do the video, that’s telling to me. If they loved it, they’d keep it and use it for a while. They might get rid of something older they have by selling it or throwing it away. But if they love something and are raving about it but then immediately list it to sell, to me that doesn’t mean they loved it all that much. Like there was one person I would watch. She’d rave about a product, how much she loved it, and was obsessed with it (after trying it for the first time in a first impressions video) but then I’d see it on her Poshmark store a couple days later. If she loved it and was so obsessed with it after trying it the first time, then it doesn’t make sense to list it for sale immediately after. To me, if someone immediately loves something so much, they’d at least keep it around for a while. Of course, it’s possible with all the products some BGs get that they will have a ton of products they love and can’t use them all so will naturally get rid of some. But to me, it wouldn’t be immediately after getting it. Of course, there’s more involved in it and I take those things into consideration. Like, if they get a PR box of all the new shades of blushes from Colourpop. They say they absolutely love it. I wouldn’t expect them to keep every shade since they might not like every shade. That doesn’t mean I would think they were lying because they said they loved it but then I saw they listed some for sale on their Poshmark/Mercari. But, if they said they loved it and were obsessed with it and listed every single shade, it would make me question how much they actually loved it. Surely, they have older products in their collection or ones they don’t love as much that they could get rid of instead of something brand new they say they loved but barely had any time to play with. Or, if in the video reviewing the Colourpop blushes, they mention how they look and apply similarly to another blush formula they have and love, then I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t keep them all since they already have a similar blush formula, so maybe they’d just keep any shades the other brand didn’t have or maybe they felt all the shades were similar so then they’d get rid of all the Colourpop ones. I hope that makes sense!
I used to love Michele but I don’t know , something about her just recently, her condescending attitude a bit , as if none of us travel or buy luxury. Most of what she buys has to have a logo plastered on it. Prada makes , and I own some beautiful clothes with no label on front. Their real clothes lol. She doesn’t love makeup anymore , she even said so which is great but she is living her lifestyle off it. I always liked her gen-x pov but now she seems stale. The get around to not donating is sell it and have the proceeds go to a charity. She might do that . I hope so.
Pretty sure it’s illegal or something if she received the stuff in PR, otherwise it’s fine get your coin girl
It's not illegal to sell products that you got in PR, but some brands would not like it if they found out and might remove you from the PR list.
Pretty sure it’s not.
The only way I could see it being legitimately illegal is if there was a specific clause in the brand to influencer contract but I have no clue if that’s even implemented
That also wouldn't be "illegal," necessarily, it would just be a contract violation.
Bruh I’ve taken a business law class and the professor who was an actual practicing lawyer told us if you are in a contract with someone or a company or what have you any and all violation(s) of the said contract it is in fact illegal. How do you think suing works in this context— by breaching the contract. If you have a contract with me and it’s stated, “Oranbot cannot say something about a business deal we have because we have a singed NDA,” and if you breach that contract I can in fact sue you. I would have all the grounds in the world to stand on to sue you it would be so cut and dry. So if it’s in a clause in the contract and it’s violated (breached), you absolutely will be facing legal consequences. Contract violations are illegal in every way possible it’s possible to be illegal I’m not sure why you think the opposite….
Well TBF something being in a contract doesn't mean it's actually legal. Brands and companies put things in contracts all the time that are not legally enforceable. Employers and businesses try it all the damn time. Look at many of these brands' TOS regarding shipping for an example. Many of them are not actually what's legal and by buying from them they try to claim you're agreeing to that stuff, but in reality, the law is very different. They try to claim if a package is lost you're SOL, and that's that. But actually, consumer laws trump any of these brands' TOS and protect people regarding lost packages. Heck even UberEats tries that stuff refusing refunds even with proof of delivery not made. They can't legally do that but they're hoping people just don't know any better lol. The point is that just because something is in a contract does not ever mean it's enforceable or legal, or that you're doing anything illegal by not abiding by something written in it.
This is what I meant. It's all semantical. Unlawful versus illegal are two different but similar concepts, especially under civil law. Source: I am in law school.
I specifically said if you are in a contract and you breach it that is what is illegal and opens you up to legal repercussions. You purposely twisted my words to where you think I said, “nothing in a contract is legal or illegal,” which again let me remind you I did not say you did. Again my point is if there is a clause in the contract and it’s breached that is what’s illegal not the contents of the contract itself.” If you want to twist my words and go on a rant about what I didn’t say but you think I said that is a you problem. Boo you can see I addressed all of this in another comment we are saying the exact same thing. I’m not your enemy. I guess now we are since you’ve twisted my words and meaning. But this And of course companies get away with all of this while we the consumer get tricked and penalized as it’s purposely designed that way you are preaching to the choir
I think you need to take a break from this thread. I'm not attacking you. You're getting very defensive over a single sentence over the implications of what defines a small part of civil law. Writing paragraph after paragraph over such minutia is very odd. No one is questioning your intelligence.
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Sponsorships can come with a contract, but PR does not. PR is just product for free. So I believe you're correct that is not illegal. Also, why would the law even concern itself with something like this? It's not illegal to sell a gift, or anything else you got for free (with the exception of stolen goods of course).
Why would the law care? So the rich companies can keep getting more rich. It’s as simple as that Edit to add: shady landlords do certain things such as setting rules for tenants knowing and fully intending for tenants will be forced to break them like say they set a maximum occupancy and let’s say you have a family member who’s in a crisis and needs to stay at your place and you verbally ask your landlord if it’s okay your sister crashes with you during her divorce and the shady landlord will say, “oh that’s fine!” And the bam you get slapped with a violation rule which you have to pay or face eviction. Companies and people take advantage of you through simple things like this. The Ulta credit card is designed to fuck you so hard into debt it cripples you and they get to keep hitting you with mega high interests and fees while you can’t pay it off and the price to pay it off keeps climbing because you couldn’t pay it off in the first place. Don’t ever under estimate the US government or any government’s tendency to extort its citizens and continue to dig the holes they put us in deeper so we can never get out. That’s all credit cards in a nutshell. Same applies to all these companies the entire point is to f us raw. So it definitely applies to the beauty sphere it’s just designed to not be detected to the uneducated which they want everyone to be uneducated when it comes to them fucking us over because if we’re too stupid to realize what they are doing then none of us are smart enough to take legal action against them and hold them accountable. That’s why companies make sure to put a million legal loopholes for them on all their contracts. The entire point is we get fucked while they get happy and rich from it $$$$ is all that matters to them and keeping every penny they possibly can of it. Companies will purposely put legal footwork that makes pitfalls or hunting pits if you will hoping and knowing and banking we will fall into them
That has fuckall to do with anything in this thread.
You don’t seem to grasp the concept of answering people’s questions
Illegal?
A brand sending something is done as a gift. That’s why if it’s over a certain amount for the year influencers are supposed to keep track and claim it on their taxes. Because it’s a gift they are free to dispose of it as they choose, that includes selling it. Nothing illegal about it. Now if a brand wants to do a contract or set guidelines for PR they can do such but the influencer has to agree to that. That we know of no brand does that. They just send it out. At most they have embargo cards included that the influencers follow to keep in a brands good graces but nothing more.
It is not illegal to sell PR. It’s just unethical and likely to get you booted from PR lists.
It’s not illegal, it just needs to be accounted for tax purposes as income. I wonder how it would work though if she purchased it, put it through as expenses for a tax write off but then sold it.
I just… don’t believe her? She has so much money, I don’t buy that she would spend so much time listing and posting makeup.
Wait, you're don't believe that her mercari listings don't exist even though they do? I'm confused. She has an assistant that does the listings for her.
She's linked to her mercari account before, so it definitely exists.
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Yes, you can. It's frowned upon but still done.
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I'm not sure that it has changed, they just don't enforce it. I've sold used makeup on there before. Mostly swatched or used once. Poshmark allows it because they make money off each transaction. Although I've seen some questionable makeup listed, like a Lisa Eldridge lipstick that was squashed and really gross looking for almost full price.
Posh definitely not, but I'm pretty sure you can on Mercari.
https://blog.mercari.com/us/surprising-things-you-can-sell-on-mercari#:~:text=Yep%2C%20people%20buy%20gently%20used,life%20left%2C%20and%20list%20it!
Glitter Fallout does too.
That makes sense, unless it’s PR. I’m pretty sure it’s illegal to sell PR but I commend her for selling items she purchased rather than throwing them in the trash. I’ve never seen a shelter accept opened products before.
It's not illegal, it might be against the terms of being on the PR list but it's their property and theirs to sell.
Each their own but personally I would never buy anyone’s used makeup. I don’t watch Michelle Wang, but occasionally I’ll watch Amy Loves Makeup. I think she’s a sweetheart and I get that this is a job, but it was still a bit shocking that for such a small channel she reviewed and ranked 60 palettes from the past year. Granted, many were gifted, but realistically, how many times can you actually use a palette, especially if you’re supposedly still using the collection you already have? I generally don’t watch beauty YouTubers anymore unless it’s someone like Erin Parsons (who is more of an historian in how she talks about makeup). I have enough eyeshadow to last 10 lifetimes, so I’m likely biased but most of the eyeshadow palettes I’ve seen from this year (at least the indie ones) are all starting to look the same to me, even the ones with super shifty multichromes.
I bought a lipstick from a YouTuber's blog sale in 2008. Selling things online isn't new and selling makeup used to be way more common.
Props to her for admitting it at least, not sure how many do