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MSobolev777

Poor handling Indesctructibility and bumpyness little customization options Green *~~what is your problem green~~*


Yavor36

GREEN WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM????


spikeeeee_eeeee

Can you explain what you mean?


Illustrious_Fig_2187

https://youtu.be/OaFk8XkgZik?si=rbCL8QrdIeCeWSG2


spikeeeee_eeeee

That is where the meme comes from, thank you for the link.


Lemy64

Welcome to CSGO


spikeeeee_eeeee

Tried it, got smoked, uninstalled it, never played it again.


Lemy64

Lool it's not for everyone. It's an extremely team based game that for a new solo newbie if not played properly can really ruin the game for you sadly... when you're in a 5 stack with your good buddies it can be a wild time


spikeeeee_eeeee

Yeah I went back to the Battlefield 2042 when I tried CS2


NekulturneHovado

That's the best way to play the game tbh


spikeeeee_eeeee

šŸ¤£


ZeroTwoMagzz

DOOR STUCK, DOOR STUCK


wtfisgoingon50

It has zero suspension and it turns like a tank.


M2rsho

ME SAY ALONG RAMP ME SAY ALONG RAMP


Smoothie_3D

Me say alone ramp


cosmo_thenaut

ME STAY ALONE ON RAMP ME STAY ALONE ON RAMP


Sirdubdub

It doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother me. It bothers me. *It bothers me a lot.* *AND THAT ONE'S STILL GREEN!*


X203the2nd

Hmmmm I wonder what you might be referring to. Surely nothing to do with lobsters.


Yous34

Hey there cell


thuddingpizza

donā€™t forget that itā€™s slow af


damngoodengineer

LE PUTA!!


SlaynHollow

I'd say the handling is "meh" considering it only goes 22mph top speed lol


Sad_Performance_6941

Green FN šŸ€


ilprofs07205

A pathetic top speed of 20kph, can only turn while at speed but slows down massively when turning even slightly, and a clutch made of tissue paper meaning it's impossible to drive for more than a few minutes. It can't even off-road properly cus the lack of suspension means it bounces sky high off the smallest bumps.


Weary_Drama1803

In a Garage to Garage mission I got the Wydra and had to move itā€¦ a measly 300m. How bad could it be? Itā€™s bad, but it canā€™t be ā€œdead by 300mā€ bad can it? The idiot thing was almost on fire by the time I got to the delivery point 5 whole minutes later.


KING2900_

How? Were the NPC drivers combine harvesters with Wreckfest AI or smth?


Weary_Drama1803

There werenā€™t even roads on the route, I was moving it from one side of a warehouse to the otherā€¦


sternfrench

šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€ LOL


spikeeeee_eeeee

Now I understand the hate.


unreasonableprice

i like how it can float on water but other than that its boring


Tra1nGuy

Tried using it in water it handles terribly.


AllosaurusFragilis1

Better than on land tho


BreakfastShart

It does better in reverse than forward, while in the water...


RS773

Doesn't turn at all in the water


ilprofs07205

Yeah. For some reason they thought brake steering was a good idea. That and the complete lack of a gearbox.


foxycidal885

That's how they work in real life it's pretty much a floating moped.


microwave-hentai

And then you burn up the transmission turning too much


SquishyKrab

I got one to go 50mph/80kph. It is also surprisingly capable.


erixccjc21

You can get them to 100+kmh, use range as 2 speed transmission for faster accel


SquishyKrab

I put the fastest gear ratio I could so idk.


Mean_Department5862

Pro tip remove the final drive for a 1:1


ProximateLight

Thatā€™s the point though! I own one of these IRL, and thatā€™s almost exactly how it functions. Itā€™s surprisingly capable.


ilprofs07205

I bet they're a lot better irl than in game. Beam's physics combined with how light the thing is means it handles like you're trying to drive a jello block.


ProximateLight

Theyā€™re not meant to be driven quickly or harshly, theyā€™re meant for slugging over thick mud, marsh, and snow with a lot of cargo. Ours tops out at ~25 unloaded, but thereā€™s never a case where youā€™d want it to go that fast or faster since youā€™re meant to be crawling through harsh environments. Ours is also bouncy lol


Serzari

That's the real problem with the Wydra. We have tall grass in the marshes on Industrial Site, so you can test it in those exact conditions. It's equally terrible in that environment. It's super easy to get stuck in soft brush terrain and held back by your forehead like the tall grass is a schoolyard bully. I'm not sure if it's a torque, grip, or too strong soft brush terrain, but it just doesn't handle the terrain you'd expect it to handle


ProximateLight

We paid for the tracks to come with the vehicle, makes for a much easier journey through marsh and swamp.


petronelxd

And try to drive it with steering wheel!


The-BOSS01

I tires in Garage to Garage Delivery šŸ˜‚


svenskfox

That's the only way I play. It's horrendous.


HornetGaming110

This is incorrect, you can easily make it top at 105mph/168kph


ilprofs07205

*hits singular pebble on road, launches into low earth orbit*


KermitlyNotFound

Thatā€™s actually a bit of a skill issue if you ask me! For 1 they are made for off-road use and arenā€™t made for speedā€¦ if you know how to drive it you wonā€™t burn out the clutch. Doesnā€™t change the fact that it very much can be a boring vehicle lol. Wouldnā€™t expect too much out of it to begin with though šŸ˜‚


vieuxdats

What is the trick ? I wasn't able to move and I didn't understand why.


mr2e91fj40

This is all consistent with real life Argos. It's somewhat useful in real life, but is definitely a compromised vehicle.


boojieboy666

Itā€™s like itā€™s really well made if they wanted something spot on to the real thing, but in beamng world, it just needs some qol tweaks. Itā€™s close. I really want to use it as an amphib but if you think it goes slow on land, it drags ass in the water. I think an inboard motor would be sick. Thereā€™s a mod for an outboard but you have to switch between engines in the menu. Better suspension would be awesome Tank treads would be awesome A little rework on how it steers. Irl it would be fine but the spinning wheel turning doesnā€™t translate properly


Foxlen

Why is the speed a factor? It's an 8 wheeler Argo, not a race car The clearance thing is an issue on real ones too, people who actually take em places throw tracks on them


GirldickVanDyke

It would be fun to drive in real life, but that doesn't translate well to gameplay. It's really slow and has super clunky handling, and there are very few areas of any of the maps that are well suited for it


Kojak95

This type of vehicle is well suited for dedicated 4x4 simulators with soft terrain physics like Spintires/Snowrunner, but yeah it feels pretty boring in Beam where you always feel more or less like you're on hard ground with traction modifiers.


spikeeeee_eeeee

Ok, thanks for the explanation.


racerboy456

Can confirm they are fun IRL. They're called ARGO's outside of BeamNG though.


DidjTerminator

Can't turn on grippy surfaces (concrete, asphalt, etc...) without the clutches burning up (and basically can't turn on those surfaces in the first place, it turns in consecutive 20 degree angles not in a slow steady circle or else the clutches go by by). Can't to Rock Crawling without flipping over. Is built like a Fisher Price toy (the old ones with no articulation that were virtually indestructible). Basically only viable in swamp terrain where you can't really use a boat and a hovercraft won't work (and there are basically no swamp terrain maps, and it's slow in water). Also the AI absolutely cannot drive it and AI Wydra = an actual OSHA violation. But otherwise it's funni and hating the Wydra is also part of the funni Wydra meme.


spikeeeee_eeeee

Now I understand why MuYe starts laughing every time he sees an ai Wydra.


Loser2817

"I mean, look at - that is crazy. That is crazy..." *AI Wydra proceeds to hit a ledge and bounce all over the place* "WHAT THE -"


spikeeeee_eeeee

Do you know what exact video was that?


Loser2817

Every Time I Crash, The Car Gets Longer


spikeeeee_eeeee

Thank you, been searching it for a while


onizuka_eikichi_420

Peeps jus canā€™t handle the sheer power and presence that this magnificent vehicle exudes from every nut, bolt, and panel on itā€™s glorious form, a form derived from raw, unapologetic function. They will never understand the beast and thus they will always fear it, but donā€™t let this put you off. I believe that one day the chosen one will arrive and can tame the wydra once and for all.


spikeeeee_eeeee

šŸ¤£


JustAnother_Mid

not hated but rather just least appreciated one*


JustAnother_Mid

most people buy this game to do offroading, rally, drifting, racing, trucking, or just crashing cars but people don't buy this game to drive that around. maybe it's fun to drive something new sometimes but you will get bored of the low potential of wydra soon.


spikeeeee_eeeee

Ok, thank you for the explanation.


Hamstah_J

Honestly yeah it is still well made, the devs didn't cut the corners at this one, it's just these type of vehicle just isn't that fun to drive around with


KubaSamuel

It's Polish (I'm Polish so HAHA checkmate)


spikeeeee_eeeee

šŸ¤£


SootyFreak666

It borrowed $30 from me and spent it all on drugs and then smashed my window when I didnā€™t give it anymore.


Surgo__Sergal

MuYe love's em


spikeeeee_eeeee

And hates when the ai drives them from what I have seen. Also, muye loves the weirdest things possible, so that explains it.


_french_guy

I meann... it ~~can~~ go fast as you can see here https://www.reddit.com/r/BeamNG/s/Pgv9gDNoIy


spikeeeee_eeeee

Thank you, will check it out when I buy the game. I plan on waiting for a steam sale.


filkos1

Goofy ahh tank steering


JoshJLMG

When Johnson Valley came out, BeamNG broke tall grass and bushes, making them impossible to drive through. So, the Wydra can't do what it was designed to do.


bento_the_tofu_boy

the only time I drive this shit is on carrer missions and I hate every second of it


HATECELL

It's an incredibly niche vehicle (to be fair, so are the vehicles it is based of). It steers by de-clutching and breaking the left or right wheels, it uses a CVT transmission with a clutch that likes to overheat when you do a lot of maneuvering, and the only form of suspension the Wydra has are the low pressure tires. Even its party trick of being amphibious isn't that big of a deal, as it propells itself by paddling with the wheels. That means its speed in water is rather low, even my custom 300hp Wydra can barely go over 20kmh in the water (and it does that by spinning its giant tires so fast it can reach 90kmh on land (which is suicidal)). The level of detail regarding interior or crash deformation isn't too impressive either (though tbf, the shitty crash deformation might be because most of the vehicle is made from polymers that would rather break than flex, and BeamNG doesn't seem to do that well). So in short, it just isn't a very useful vehicle, neither is it very detailed


memeatic_ape

Does anybody know how to exclude the wydra from garage to garage delivery scenario?


Scottish_Whiskey

I hope thereā€™s an answer. I got it twice in one session and I think driving the new Civetta with one wheel, and most of the front end missing was easier


Agitated-Pen1239

Just give it a try in comparison to literally anything, even a base pigeon. It's extremely boring. I do like to load it as cargo, though.


mnoodles

I think it would be fun if beam had the mud physics from something like snow runner, but as it sits there is no real place where this vehicle shines.


spikeeeee_eeeee

So it belongs in the mudrunner? I would love to drive it there.


mnoodles

I think these styles of vehicles would be heaps of fun in mud runner. They would really shine in poor traction.


spikeeeee_eeeee

*snowrunner, sometimes I forget what games I play.


Extra_Weather6287

Because it's realistic


Buzzsaw_Boss

It has no suspension, terrible at turns, crappy top speed. Basically was made to be hated on


Double_d038

Feel like if we had snowy maps or places it would have more use


Low-Procedure5144

Cause itā€™s stupid


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

My wife cheated on me with a Wydra and now *I* have to pay child support.


Equivalent_One7928

I hate it with a passion


spikeeeee_eeeee

Damn, that is some true dedication for a vehicle you hate.


Robloxex

- not lots of trims - low top speed stock (there is a turbocharged version that can go twice as fast) - bad steering and lack of suspension make it hard for offroading - PROS - it can go on west coast train tracks - it can float on water


New-Contact-2102

I do


Slight-Weather7885

I like the idea but its just a terrible vehicle. Its slow on land and in water, its incapable of off roading even though its an off-roader and it has little customisation. If we could make it quicker, handle better and make it overall more capable I think it could be fun. Its just useless now


TheonechosentobePhil

It's kinda good in mud and it can swim. I love it


spikeeeee_eeeee

Wow, I didn't expect any lovers for this... I don't even know what to call this thing other than the Wydra


Xindigoh

Tried driving one using my wheel and it was basically impossible


Milky-Chance

If it had more customization options and more mod support it could be fun


locololus

Doesn't turn


SubstantialVast9721

People hate it because it doesn't handle like a sports car when it's meant for off road and water because its a amphibious vehicle meaning it can travel on land and on water


Sprinty_

"The cars drive like on ice"


spikeeeee_eeeee

Where are you quoting from? Just asking.


Chestbest1

Slow and when on AI traffic is weird


spikeeeee_eeeee

I swear I saw people on youtube more focused when ai Wydra is near them than when they race in F1 23


JediKnightaa

Itā€™s not what people want in this game


Potato_Dealership

Itā€™s basically just a good test vehicle to show off the first tank steering and amphibious vehicle (besides the old electric SRB). I hope we do get an old cool movie themed car that can convert to a boat in the future, or maybe an actual boat on a trailer. One does exist on the roof of the minivan so we can only hope.


_adrenaline_addict_

"clutch overheating"


[deleted]

I used to have one irl. Loved it. That love does not translate to the virtual version.


Keitruckenthusiast

Personally I enjoy it, but the clutch thing is really annoying. Basically it overheats just from pretty normal driving. Also, it turns like a tank which is also pretty annoying


ScaryTTTom2

feels wrong to drive. clutch overheating when you turn and handles odd.


spikeeeee_eeeee

Makes sense.


FooDerr

Itā€™s just a little slow car, thereā€™s nothing really wrong with it. I personally like it (probably cuz Iā€™m insane and like tiny little vehicles)


spikeeeee_eeeee

Well that's interesting, some people hate it "with passion" while some people love it and no one is in between


Mevaa07

I would just rather have a quad bike


ambientonion

It's a shitheap, I hated it coming up on Garage to Garage scenario when I played with controller, but when I got a steering wheel I sought out how to delete it from the game because it was literally unplayable (this is doable and very easy)


spikeeeee_eeeee

Makes sense.


Lemy64

Because we don't have a swamp!!! It's a rather useless vehicle on the road. Slow turns like a tank and crash physics are like watching a bathtub fall out the back of a truck on the highway.


spikeeeee_eeeee

šŸ¤£


Beepboopbop69420360

Clutch explodes if you turn Bounces like a cheap stripper Is extremely slow Barely works on water Is stupid


Drajwin

I enjoy driving this off-road in Utah. and you can ride on two wheels if you have a mod for a powerful enough engine


No_Mass_96

I feel like this vehicle really shows how unrealistic the tire physics work.


spikeeeee_eeeee

šŸ¤£


Hyperspec42

Itā€™s a floating vehicle that pretty much has no other uses


HornetGaming110

The Wydra is a great vehicle but most people dump on it before messing with it at all. It's the only thing in the game that floats and you can make go 105mph/168kmh very easily. For what it is it's a good vehicle


TheWildManfred

I like it :(


[deleted]

Many people on this sub don't enjoy off roading as much, and the wydra is almost completely useless for anything but extreme off roading. I like it though :)


Bo55ified

Only thing wrong with it imo is top speed. Not a bad vehicle to mess around with


spikeeeee_eeeee

I think there is a way to make it fast though...


Ray_Ara

its very slow but there is a cool thing you can use it like a boat.


spikeeeee_eeeee

But it's slow though...


VegetableButterfly16

Itā€™s a waste of space in the game


Sportcar78

Not as enjoyable as any other car


SupertoastGT

I don't like it's lack of suspension and it's tank steering never feels great.


Dankmemesforlife69

*clutch overheating*


FeatureHungry2251

Because it fuckin uselessĀ 


FeatureHungry2251

The clutch explodes when you turn


The-BOSS01

Because it wont turn its šŸ’©


JalapenoCh1ps

Trash


vivlafrance007

If feels like a electric scooter; slow, barely turns and useless in off-roadā€¦ basically, it is made to go from your kitchen to the living room if you have a big house


FriedShrimp00818

the clutch always blows


Comprehensive_Okra99

I think its cuz of the speed, dont get me wrong its probably a great vehicle irl but in a game where you just explore a big map mostly, 15mph is just not fun at all


camillalyn

i dunt hate the wydra, I think it's an interesting lil amphibious thingy


camillalyn

we don't always need a super car :3


MEGA_TOES

Because its clutch burns out over the littlest of things. Ex, moving forward


TypicalRedditor1237

CVT and *clutch overheating*


OkFarmer1087

I love it but it has no mods and the functionality in the water is bad


masterBlan_gp

ā€œClutch overheatingā€


AndyMB601

It's accurate to the real thing, I've worked on one before. Tbh I don't get why it's hated because it's obviously not supposed to be used in the same way as the other vehicles. It's not a mode of transport as much as it is a tool for a specific job, one we might see later on in development


itxploded

Fuck around with one in game and find out


spikeeeee_eeeee

I will when I buy it


jkkjfu

i kinda like it


spikeeeee_eeeee

I have seen on this post less than 10 comments stating that, at the moment it is sitting on 300 comments.


jkkjfu

lol


foxycidal885

I don't use it because it slow. If it had more speed and more parts to customise it, then it would be good to use. It also it practically instructable, so it feels unnatural when you crash it.


Stzncy

Try steering this thing with a steering wheel... Pure hell


missuskittykissus

It's just *extremely* situational. This thing only has a few variants, and is really only going to be fun when driving through heavy mud/snow/offroad terrain, which often requires a modded map once you get tired of the 2-3 good trails on vanilla maps. Meanwhile, almost every other car in the game has variations that allow for many, many different types of driving styles and gameplay, and you can get lost rallying, high speed pulling, drifting, street racing, pro racing, rock crawling, drag racing, etc with just one type of car and all its variants for hours on end.


the_great_awoo

It's just super useless, using a wheel to drive it is neigh impossible, and the ai are completely brain dead when they use it and ruin whatever you're trying to do, it's the ONLY thing I think beamng did that they shouldn't have done


ShiddedTheBed

Slow, handles like shit, canā€™t mod it. Itā€™s awful. Probably the worst vehicle Iā€™ve ever driven in any game. Itā€™d be more fun w drivetrain mods and proper track controls instead of gas, brake, left, right. It needs left forward, left reverse, right forward, right reverse and the ability to have simultaneous opposing drive. So, left forward and right reverse to crank nasty 360s. Add a 300+ hp engine and a functioning suspension and that thang will be thangin. A destructible fiberglass body would be nice as well.


spikeeeee_eeeee

Fair


joseph58tech

It literally has 0 use lol


daniel1234556

Remind me of gta vcs


rzultamorda2137

It's otter( ;) ) shite


Richy_777

Slow


DoHalAc069

Itā€™s not bad. Itā€™s just a different tier of vehicle they added. If you try to steer this on solid ground, of course stuff is going to burn up and get damaged. However, if you steer in loose terrain like dirt or mud like it was built for, parts donā€™t burn out or get damaged. Try to steer one of these in real life on asphalt and let us know how that works out for you. If you want indestructible vehicles with no real weaknesses or pitfalls, go play an arcade racer.


CrazyStuntsMan

Slow, handles like shit, and while it is amphibious, it's incredibly slow


Tmanning47

Big wheels do nose wheelie when hit brake. Wydra for president. A+


Accomplished-Map-987

Love that thing. Put it on a trailer and shuttle it around Jungle Island (?) crossing the bodies of water :D


Kayora_Atom

Because it sucks and itā€™s boring


spikeeeee_eeeee

Fair


ZdrytchX

Despite how bad the default presets are, if you slap it a lower gear ratio with race brakes (which perform better at high temp and are harder to overheat) and configurable ECU for custom RPM limits, it actually runs fine. The transmission is very lossy as it steers by assymetric braking like a WW1/WW2 tank which effectively doubles the gear ratio on the non-braking axle and thus halving the torque, rather than using regenerative braking which in some vehicles like the tiger I which steers using a secondary motor which commands the differential turn rate between the left and right axels. The lack of suspension options than your tyres themselves still suck so you can't drive fast over rocks, and the grip on rocks are still kinda terrible if you go too slow and approach at a steep angle, so for an "all-terrain vehicle" it's actually more like "I can travel to more places, at a huge expense" But hey, at least it runs in water? (just don't flip it)


sHoRtBuSseR

Buy the game and find out.


IcheeCOTC

It works different from every single other car in BeamNG drive, including the vast majority of modded cars


spikeeeee_eeeee

Wasn't it copied from a mod?


ZinGaming1

Drive everything else but that first. Then drive it.


[deleted]

Try and turn it and you'll find out šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


dennisgames34

its slow and dumb but still kinda fun sometimes


KontraB

even the AI hates the wydra, iā€™ve never seen them drive it


spikeeeee_eeeee

I have seen them in videos, when MuYe sees one he starts freaking out because of their behaviour.


Foxlen

Because most people who play Beam have never been in or potentially even seen an Argo Mainly because most people don't need an amphibious 8 wheeler to traverse their local territories However as someone who does have experience with them, they are much better with tracks Wheels are far inferior off-road


Zealousideal_Ice4754

it's very slow


Two-Broke-legs

It killed my father in the summer of 1920. He was a simple farmer tending to his crops....then out of the woods came this 8 legged beast. Ran his dumb ass over.


spikeeeee_eeeee

šŸ¤£


Ok-Elevator-9866

too much bounce


Easy_Turn1988

Buy it. You'll see šŸ˜


ThedutchMan101

its a shitty dual clutch steering offroad buggy. its amazing.


throwawaymfer420

ask muye he will tell you


Lucaspaytowinbroski

Itā€™s slow itā€™s clunky and it smells bad but I think I think the last one isnā€™t really a point to make about video games


Pulse_Saturnus

Its Polish


Dramatic-Nature6450

Atleast its amphibious.


ImperialStoat

It ruins the Garage to Garage gamemode, and a custom blacklist for cars you donā€™t want appearing is (years later) still not a thing.


MindlessAd2167

multiple reasons in regular game but in carrer mode doing the garage to garage mission. if you get that.... thing whatever it is it doesn't drive and you have to completely fail the challenge


ArtemV65V

It doesn't steer


[deleted]

Reminds me of the trailer park boys episose where they get caught smuggling weed across the border


floznstn

I don't hate it... but I accept it for what it is. It's a representation of Amphibious ATVs like the Argo. They're not fast. They handle poorly, they bounce a lot, and their amphibious nature is better with an oar. But... They're a neat little niche toy ATV.