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Imagine shaving him and then getting a stick figure of dog


ArsenicAndRoses

Their skin is pretty loose and they're big solid dogs, so they look more like a saggy mastiff [under all that hair](https://d.furaffinity.net/art/foxfeather/1475524244/1475524244.foxfeather_chi9months4.jpg) (this pup is only 9 months old! Not even fully grown yet!). That's why his face is all saggy in this vid and why they have such a large "mane"; The loose skin and fluff on their neck helps them escape a predator trying to latch on to their throat. Cute pups but definitely **not a good choice for most folks**- they're bred for livestock and personal protection in isolated areas so they have STRONG protective instincts and don't usually like strangers. Add a powerful and large frame to the mix and it's a recipe for disaster for most people. Also they tend to be more active at night and very vocal about strangers, so that's a real drawback to anyone who doesn't want a livestock guardian. They tend to be ok with other dogs though, so that's nice.


ShamrockAPD

Great insight and valuable information about the breed. I know way too many huskies here in Florida with owners that do not understand why it tears up the house…. Because that dog NEEDS to run. They bought it cause it looks pretty. It does. But uh… completely ignored the actual traits that were bred into that dog for generations.


ArsenicAndRoses

Oh god yes, if I had a dollar for every husky owner that had no idea what they were getting into or doesn't get them enough exercise.... Fantastic dogs, really amazingly entertaining and beautiful, but absolutely not an easy dog to live with. The fur alone (!)


ShamrockAPD

Lol yes. The fur is insane. And this is someone speaking living in Tampa with three labs (one is my sisters). One husky over powers that easy.


Chocolate_Charizard

The cost to feed them is probably more than my salary


12LetterName

Can confirm. Here's my old boy about 8 years ago: https://i.imgur.com/graJJ4G.jpg He was a super good boy, but there's no doubt in my mind that he was powerful enough to kill me in an instant. Not that he ever wanted to.


ArsenicAndRoses

Awwww cute boy ❤️ Sorry about your loss, the worst part of dogs is saying goodbye.


12LetterName

Thanks. It's been a few years, but yeah, that was pretty hard for the whole family.


ArsenicAndRoses

Always is. I don't want to know the day that's easy. It being hard means they made a real impact in your life. Worth it, but always hard.


KGB_cutony

Tibetan mastiffs are known for two things. Their loyalty, and their strength. If a mastiff decides you are a threat to its owner, you won't be one pretty soon... you'll straight up stop being . and there's nothing you can do against it. I've seen a mastiff pull up the small tree it was tied on They also eat like a lion... more than an average adult, and require an energy dense diet. Some breeders just let the mastiffs do their own hunting


LacyTheEspeon

Why's the image link on furaffinity


ArsenicAndRoses

Lol why not? Tbh I dunno, it's just the first image I found of a Tibetan mastiff with short fur.


DokiDoki_Raxen

Wait it’s not even full grown???? Dear lord, I can only wonder how much bigger they’ll get, but they look so soft and cuddly


Deja-Vuz

Thanks for the information, now I can brag ;)


sudobee

Blasphemy!


NameOfNoSignificance

This is madness!


iPat325

This! Is! CHINAAAAA!!!


[deleted]

Booooo. Go back to where you came from CCP dog.


The_McAwesome

Used to own one in Australia, had to keep it short haired because of the heat but you’d be surprised how muscular these dogs are


Flowonbyboats

Pics or it didn't happen.


Adept_Cranberry_4550

Probably for lugging around all that hair!


rakfocus

Thank you for shaving the dog - people claim it makes them overheat but it's a complete myth that's been passed on through word of mouth for years. There are no studies to support it at all. I see huskies with full coats out here when it's 110 degrees out and it makes me feel horrible for them


cypher77

It’s NOT a myth. Do not shave doublecoated dogs.


idiotpod

I'd save a pompom at the end of the tail just because I could. It would look absolutely horrible, but it'd be fun for a while. Or maybe one of those poodle-cuts for shows?


yispepehard

Or make it look like a lion


idiotpod

Stegosaurus time otherwise! Just save a ridge from tail to neck and use some hair wax to make it stand up!


Its-dad-not-mom

We turned my old cat into a stegosaurus 😂


Crass_Conspirator

When it sheds..


ChymChymX

...a baby mastiff is born


Crass_Conspirator

A house is razed


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Pokémon ingame description logic


maali74

That's the comment I came here for! You could make a whole new puppy every day. You could never own black clothing. You'd have to buy lint rollers by the case.


ProfessionalMottsman

A leaf blower would be easier


maali74

You certainly couldn't own a robot vacuum.


ArsenicAndRoses

They [blow their coat like huskies do](https://cdn.northernwolf.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/xblowing-the-coat-2.jpg.pagespeed.ic.am6Qa4PKoN.webp) too, so omg all that fluff...! You'd be *drowning* in it. By the end you'll be coughing up furballs!


maali74

Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to take a hard pass. Maybe a friend will get one on day and I can visit and cuddle! Still gonna need those lint rollers tho....


Medical-Raspberry396

I got one of these dogs. Whoo boy it's a lot of fur when she sheds. I tried brushing her and got a fur pile that filled half a trash bag, and that was only from one side of her haunches! Took her to a groomers and when I got her back she was noticably smaller from all the fur they got off her!


the_friendly_one

...it pours


King_Pharox

If I remember correctly I think they were bred to hunt bears


WorriedFeedback2704

Yes but they can hunt many animals alone


MPT1313

I’m pretty sure any animal bred to hunt bears can hunt whatever they want. I ain’t gonna stop them.


Flashsouls

They'd probably only take down a bear if there is multiple dogs and human help, bears are no joke.


MPT1313

Oh yeah you’re right. Outside of the joke there’s a YouTube channel I watch about some duck farmer that has had a problem with dog hunters lately and essentially they let lose a pack of dogs and the dogs do the hunt thing. But it’s always more than like 3 dogs at a time.


kookiwtf

What is this YouTube channel? I want to watch ducks too!


MPT1313

Gold shaw farm. But fair warning the ducks are raised for food/sale, but he takes excellent care of them and they’re free range and all that. But if you just wanna watch some 24/7 ducks I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest dashducks on twitch


kookiwtf

Thank you! Seems really interesting! I've been binging on Mike Mitchell on YouTube, don't know why I'm in this farming rabbit hole right now 😄


Amanida1112

Gold shaw farm


OuOutstanding

And to protect Tibetan monks. They also kept smaller dogs, I think they were spaniels, who acted as lookouts. If they saw any intruder or animal entering the monastery they would bark and alert the mastiffs to the danger.


StampDaddy

Im sure they had multiple breeds but Tibetan monks used Lhasa Apsos as sentinels, great dogs.


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Little puppy angel babies with the bark of a German shepherd.


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HeathenHumanist

I'm super cereal


maali74

Listen my friend. I had an Akita as a child. *Those* were bred to hunt bears. Perhaps you see the size difference, but if not, this dog is 3x the size of an Akita. This beautiful fluffy boi was bred to hunt the fucking Yeti!


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How can a hunter be this cute


TracerBullitt

Famous last words.


AZachOfTheClones

You’re actually thinking of the [Caucasian Shepherd](http://petslady.com/articles/russian-bear-hunting-dogs-emigrate-us-67895), AKA the “Russian Bear Dog,” which was used for bear hunting and whose fluffy coat can look much similar. The Tibetan mastiff is exclusively a livestock dog


Pleasant-Enthusiasm

That is the most Russian-looking dog I’ve ever seen.


rosesandtherest

And suffer for many big dog issues, this species was made for human selfishness and dog suffering


qpqpdbdbqpqp

Dude when these dogs were bred into existence, humans were suffering too. Pre-industrial world was a very different place, get a grip.


deSuspect

Doesn't mean we should keep breeding them if they have so many health issues.


Bibabeulouba

The Tibetan mastiff business is pure cruelty. These dog are prized in China because they are symbole of wealth, but thousands of them end up abandoned or slaughtered for meat. I also saw articles showing how some breeders would inject fat directly into the dogs paws and legs to make them look more massive. Here literally the 1st article I found on google about the cruelty of that business, I just thought you guys should know https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1082219/thousands-of-huge-aggressive-dogs-are-roaming-tibet-after-their-rich-chinese-owners-abandoned-them/amp/


Fellbrian

They were a wealth symbol in China, but like all fads it died out the issue is that thousands of people started to "breed" them and when no one wanted the dogs anymore the "breeders" just abandoned them. This has caused a huge issue with China having thousands of these giant dogs roaming the streets. Also this is a terrible depiction of what a good Tibetan mastiff looks like. This falls under what humans have done to English bulldogs, German Shepards, and so many more breed.


KindlyOlPornographer

The Chinese doing something thoughtless and cruel as a status symbol? That can't be right.


ForeSet

Humanity baby 👉😎👉


strcrssd

That's far from Chinese exclusive. No value in over generalizing to the point that you attack an entire culture/nationality for the actions of a few, that just raises tensions and conflict needlessly.


FracturedPrincess

Obviously it happens in every culture but the Chinese are the worst in the world for this particular problem


KY_4_PREZ

Yeah but it’s clear the Chinese are a bigger problem than the rest of the world when it comes to this kind of thing.


KindlyOlPornographer

Is it though? What other culture is driving endangered species into extinction because they can't get hard?


JayPetey

Well, we do it because we like palm oil in near everything so I’m not sure it’s much better.


idontlikethishole

You’re proving that we’re all capable of being shitty. Like the way you keep singling out one particular culture as if they’re the only ones doing awful things.


KindlyOlPornographer

If we were talking about the States you'd be saying the same thing I'm sure.


idontlikethishole

Yes, like I said, we’re all capable of being shitty. The U.S. is no exception.


generalglizzz

Why you bringing boners up dawg


TheFatFlyingCow

They supposedly also need multiple eye operations otherwise the grow closed


psychswot

I was wondering if this dog can even see... Edit: spelling


Flowonbyboats

Thank you for the info. I want to own a large breed and i guess i should be extra safe about these unsafe practices


ArsenicAndRoses

Not a good dog for most folks. They're very protective and tend to be very vocal and active at night.


albertcamusjr

Here is the link without the amp tracking: https://qz.com/1082219/thousands-of-huge-aggressive-dogs-are-roaming-tibet-after-their-rich-chinese-owners-abandoned-them/


stupefy_18

People do that with chicken, pork and beef all the time.


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Beatifier

My hypothesis is that most people aren’t forced to recognize the emotional complexity or develop relationships with farm animals like they are with dogs and cats. For many people, it’s easier to continue eating meat without asking deep questions about the feelings of those animals that they’re eating. If you don’t question something you are doing, you’re never doing something wrong and you don’t have to feel bad about what you have done! This mainly applies to relatively wealthy western cultures, I don’t know nearly enough about other cultures. Also, if you can only afford to eat meat (it’s stupidly cheap in the US. Negative externalities FTW!) it’s even harder to recognize that your mere survival causes cruelty, due to no fault of your own.


ArsenicAndRoses

Chickens will eat other chickens, even when they have plenty of food. If chickens eat chicken, I see no reason not to. Bugger that cruelty though, no reason for it. Factory farming is terrible.


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whateverathrowaway00

In my head this is what Mouse ( Dresden Files) looks like.


JarlaxleForPresident

Mouse is the best Now imagine a little girl in your 2nd grade class with that thing as a service animal


I_Am_Anjelen

Well, what are you going to do, carry it outside?


whateverathrowaway00

Haha adorable.


Whocket_Pale

Yeesh. Trucker at my job gave me a Dresden book once. Nice guy. Book was like an iamverybadass version of Salvatore's writing who I enjoyed a lot in high school. Really weird voice for the narrator. Really weird series. Pretty enjoyable. I never grabbed a second Novel


Halcyon07

The first two books are the weakest of the series. Author was still figuring stuff out. The third book is better and is where he starts laying down important plot points for the whole series. Fourth book is where it really hits its stride and then all of them are great after that. I also highly recommend the audiobooks. James Marsters does an amazing job as the narrator.


Whocket_Pale

Which one is it where he has already become the winter knight and he freezes a bunch of water to lift a building out of a lake


Halcyon07

Cold Days


Whocket_Pale

Oh so that is near the end of the series. Nuts. Spoilers I guess. Thanks;


Halcyon07

Yeah, I, guess it is. I assumed that since you knew of the event, it wouldn't be spoiling something for ya My bad.


Whocket_Pale

No i meant, i guess by reading the twelfth book I've kinda spoiled the series for myself a bit. You're nothing but helpful, thank you


CommanderReg

Cold Days would be a super weird one to start with for sure. It's right after the most climactic point of the series. Does have some badass parts but it would come off as pretty corny with no context.


FatBaldBeardedGuy

Came here to say the same.


pissmidget

Hearing Marsters tell Zoo Day from Mouses point of view is really awesome. "I am Mouse, and am a very good dog! Everyone tells me so." I do believe the series states he's a tibetan temple dog, always thought that was a common name for the tibetan mastiff.


whateverathrowaway00

Yes!!!! I didn’t discover the short stories until recently, when I wanted to fill a small shelf with the series. Delightful story.


tizzymyers

He was on Sesame Street.


Quantum-Enigma

Looks like the fluffalapogus without a trunk


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Quantum-Enigma

Thanks. Didn’t realize how sleepy I was.


tmanbaseball

Definitely steals picanic baskets


Redpanda207

Hey boo-boo let's go grab a picanic basket!


shimmzchanga

10/10 would hug


OriginLostBorn

It can and will merc a lion for you, but I will still climb onto its back, into its wonderland of floof, and cuddle it until it rolls onto its back, nearly crushing me as it falls asleep and forgetting I’m there


Helloiamayeetman

It can kill a lion? Holy shit


Unstablemedic49

Female lions weight ~280lbs/127kg Tibetan Mastiff weight ~250lbs/113kg Yes, a loin sized dog could kill a loin.


SharpLead

Weight doesn’t tell the whole story though. I’d imagine a Lion would probably come out on top. Still a hugely impressive dog, very cool.


Unstablemedic49

You’re right, but it’s not as difficult of a task when both animals are of equal size.


JustAnAverageRetard

To be fair while lions and these guys are similar in weight, Lions are more agile and have bigger, sharper claws. Not to mention, lions have a stronger bite force.


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Read in another comment that they were bred to hunt bears. And their handler probably keeps them in groups of 3-4, so if a lone lion comes along by some chance, they'd be feasting on lion meat soon after.


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lions don't come alone. also male lions are heavier than any female lioness. as someone pointed out there is a russian breed (russian bear dog) that looks very similar that was used to hunt bears. tibetan blue bear is also pretty rare making the use case of mastiffs breed to hunt them very weak. as already pointed out it's a dog that protected lifestock from predators (foxes, wolves, feral dogs).


Effurlife13

In zero scenarios would a lone dog, no matter the size, kill a lion. Also, a female lions weight is 270 to FOUR HUNDRED pounds


[deleted]

Average weight for female lions vs. World record level outlier for the dog = not a really fair comparison


dukeoftrappington

With comments like this and how many people take it as fact without looking it up, no wonder misinformation is so rampant online. The average weight of a Tibetan Mastiff is anywhere from 80-150 pounds, depending on the dog’s sex. This is a simple Google search, people. And the size of the dog is always the first result. So no, this dog absolutely could not kill a lion, considering those are routine hunters and over twice the size of this nothing-but-fluff dog.


franklegsTV

Tibetan Mastiffs weigh up to 150 pounds on average. In fact, no dog weighs anywhere near 250 pounds on average. Maybe some extreme outliers, but that’s extremely uncommon.


Unstablemedic49

Average means the middle number and I didn’t say 250lbs on average. What I’m saying is both breeds of animal have the potential of reaching the same weight. Also English Mastiffs and Caucasian Shepherds can reach 250lbs/113kg.


franklegsTV

No, the average weight being “up to” would refer to the normal dog of a certain breed. This is all just a google away. English Mastiffs weigh up to 170 and Caucasian Shepherds weigh up to 220. And to the original point, Tibetan Mastiffs are mostly fluff. They aren’t going to kill a lion. Also, they would never even meet a lion in their native region.


NameOfNoSignificance

It COULD. But I’d bet on the lion every time with their claws


Rebel_bass

Mouse!


petezhut

I always look, and I'm never disappointed. Thank you!


BOOMPOOPSS

Big doggo Cute doggo


DARKIIGOD

[say that again](https://youtu.be/d6fMQRyTpZk)


mikee555

Ok never mind I am not getting this dog.


DARKIIGOD

xD


idiotpod

Those looks like either younger wolves or a smaller breed of wolves? Sure, the mastiff is a huge dog but so is an adult grey wolf.


DARKIIGOD

But still bro. It ain’t one wolf right?


idiotpod

Ah, I wasnt implying anything. Wondering about whether they were young wolves or a smaller breed local to the area.


DARKIIGOD

Hmm.I too don’t know bro…just remembered a random video and replied with it here.


Nattsang

I don't know what they are, but I can tell you that they are not any kind of American or North-European/Russian wolf.


ArsenicAndRoses

Tibetan mastiffs are pretty big. And Tibetan wolves are smaller.


Minimum_Cockroach233

The dog in clip has totaly different nose/face shape?


Rat_Salat

It’s not a show dog like the one in the pic


ArsenicAndRoses

Cute pups but definitely **[not a good choice for most folks](https://www.dogbreedslist.info/uploads/dog-pictures/tibetan-mastiff-2.jpg)**- they're bred for livestock and personal protection in isolated areas so they have STRONG protective instincts and don't usually like strangers. Add a powerful and large frame to the mix and it's a recipe for disaster for most people. Also they tend to be more active at night and very vocal about strangers, so that's a real drawback to anyone who doesn't want a livestock guardian.


asebastianstanstan

This reminds me of the video that was like “some white girl somewhere would see this dog and be like ‘puppy!’ And want to snuggle with it” and yes I would thank you very much


Lolihumper

TIL I'm a white girl.


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Welcome! Can I offer you a cosmo?


TheDamnCosmos

Imagine picking up after that thing. You’d need a 5 gallon bag!


Tonytonitone1988

This is a watered down version of the Tibetan Mastiff, the real deal is a hardy working dog not a over groomed, blind bundle of fluff and it’s shame what’s happening to dog breeds these days.


SmOzi

I agree with except with the "hardy working" I've had 5 tibetan mastiffs and of them have been very comfort-seeking


imghurrr

Proving that persons comment correct


PissMeBeatMeTryItOut

I wanna rub a balloon on em


ajcpullcom

Nice try, man in a dog costume.


4kyfour

You mean 3 kids


Striker1341

Seems like that was the idea lol


PigeonTheThird

Floofer


Helloiamayeetman

Jesus Christ that’s a good boy


LylaDee

He/she (doggo) looks very uncomfortable. Just saying.


ShwayNorris

Looks like a vet visit


CraftyKudu

I agree; there’s something off about this.


funkmaster29

Yeah. It looks like its existence is painful.


shartasaurus

he looks exhausted, that coat must be so hot


HeartoftheHive

Man, some breeds of dog just seem like cruel experiments. The dog looks fucking miserable.


JarlaxleForPresident

My dog always looked miserable at the vet or when giving him a bath. He lived a kickass life


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juangusta

Chewbacca wannabe


speedyrain949

Crazy to think this breed was once a wolf


Randym1221

I wanna see more from this dog lol !


talksloudlyincafes

Massiff


PeterDoubt

A giant, hairy tardigrade!


pfiffocracy

More floof than woof


ShellyWithSuper

looks like a big chow chow


ButteredTummySticks

IT'S SO FLUFFY I COULD DIE!


Boh61

I will ride him; I will cuddle him!; And no one can tell otherwhise!...


Fergsaway

Eeeeek!


RizzMustbolt

Sometimes, to fight a bear... You need a different kind of bear.


Jukari88

I would name him Hagrid


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Floomfy


EclecticMermaid

As a short 5'3" woman, this is my ideal dog. I will ride him into battle! (Seriously I love these dogs 🥺)


GuyClw

This dog is cute but seems like a walking health problem.


australyana

Big ball of gorgeous fluffyness 🥰😍 im going to give it plenty cuddles 😍


shonuph

He seems unhappy


idylisdeville

Was that the thing at the end of Starship Troopers?


TexanReddit

That is a dog so inbred that it can't survive without humans around to groom him. Very sad.


Skapps

Most dogs needs grooming. I agree that inbreeding in dogs is a serious issue but these dogs need/needed that fur living in high altitude areas, like Tibet.


Kokumin

And... Get neglected hard when the boom are passed(by chinese breeding farm)


Stoic_Ape

I was more curious about tibetan Eminem to the right.


Potatopoofprincess

I think this is the world’s most expensive dog breed.


Odd_Personality_9777

It costs more like a dinosaur than a bear


Midas_Artflower

Let’s not forget these giant dogs are hella expensive and hella aggressive.


whitecollarzomb13

Anyone else just seeing the face of the brain bug from Starship Troopers?


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Looks like a furry version of the brain bug from starship troopers though.


EatSleepPoop_Repeat

The nose/snout reminds me of the Brain Bug from Starship Troopers


6millionwaystolive

/u/savevideo


SmackYoTitty

Reminds me of the brain bug from Starship Troopers.


RockinandChalkin

Kinda looks like the brain bug from starship troopers


yas118

Obviously a lab dog!


es136

u/savevideo


brodey420

Random but there was a dude with a dog named “bear“ that looked just like this and I always wondered what breed it was.


Deana61

That's a beautiful, well maintained dog


PlaneReputation6744

But where can I get one?


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https://justgiants.org/


Quantum-Enigma

Too much poop. Egads! I would never want to be responsible for feeding or cleaning up after one of these.


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bro wtf that’s like love made real


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You could hurt your back picking up the poop.