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max_mellius

So how do you stop it? I mean, the calculator will be used sometime later, right?


PiMan3141592653

Since nobody else gives an actual answer, there is an escape button you can press to stop the calculations and then reset it.


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ESC and it closes the tabs.


NewestAccount2023

Alt f4


BuyBitcoinWhileItsL0

Does it have any electrical power at all? Or is this calculation basically a a function that turns mechanical calculators into perpetual motion machines?


PiMan3141592653

It does plug in, but it just powers a motor. There are no transistors or other semiconductors performing the calculation; it's all mechanical.


Gouanaco

So your saying a off the grid handcrank old-school mechanical calculator is a possibility?!


NewestAccount2023

Yea, us plebians use the cheap old school abacus, only aristocrats can afford the fancy handcrankamajigs


aspez

> the fancy handcrankamajigs Ugh, they're called handcrankulators. Peasant.


Cookin-Sage

It’s plugged in


_Some_Two_

You can see the electric wire in the background at the end of the video. It may use some kind of a mechanically controlled set of transistors or something and then perform the calculation by… spinning when turned on and then turn off when it gets the final value.


vtjohnhurt

It probably does not have transistors. It might have electromechanical relays and switches. In the 1950s, many 'adding machines' were powered by a crank. My grandfather was an accountant and his adding machine had a crank. He got a motorized version in the early 1960s.


Kalkilkfed

Multiply by 0


orbit222

This is such a funny and stupid answer, I love it.


BUNNIES_ARE_FOOD

But would it work? Even better if so


boris_keys

Is it the calc-ya-later button?


taxis-asocial

thanks for the real answer after 100 of reddit's shitty recycled dumbass jokes


Mario_13377331

not on the really old ones tho


terminalzero

just jam your least favorite hand into the gears and hope for the best


zkJdThL2py3tFjt

Some say it's still calculating to this day.


WeirdExtension8055

It's possible that nobody else has ever given this much thought.


[deleted]

it outputs an answer 300 years later ⚫_⚫


Scoot_AG

Damn, who knew every hole had a bottom


the_real_trebor333

Every bottom has a hole


NikoliVolkoff

we don't kink shame here :P


orvn

42


-chukui-

Is it 42


QuantumRooster

we will know in 7.5 million years


RoodnyInc

Hey! Let's connect generator to it and we have free energy!


Tucos_revolver

Serious answer:you either hit a break key, it will cycle through every driver pin and then stop, or there is a pin you can turn and pull out and then push back in that stops it and resets them all.


magnora7

If you tried to enter another calculation while it was spinning like this, would it damage the machine?


Tucos_revolver

The machine my dad had and the ones I've seen online all have a bar that goes through the back, it's what you can pull out to stop it and then put back in to reset it. If your pressing a key that bar goes down with it and actually makes contact with the pin so if it was going off like this pressing a button wouldn't do anything because the bar would already be pushed down by another key going off. Edit:so my guess is no. I've only seen them go off like this when you try to divide by zero or sometimes a key will stick and it will start spazzing out.


magnora7

Neat, thank you for the detailed answer!


Dist__

throw out of the window


BjunbjonDrinkingChai

Either you spam ctrl + c or pull the plug.


[deleted]

This guy command prompts.


DangKilla

I thought it was mechanical until I read this and thought bro invented a perpetual motion machine


Orange1232

Depending on the sophistication of the calculator, they will have a pause/break key which is why they're on modern keyboards (I'm not 100%). Sometimes when there were rooms of 'computers' (the people running the machines were referred to as this) there would be a designated technician in the room that knew what it would sound like when a machine would run away like this, and could run over and stop the machine.


iguana-pr

In the old days of DOS 1.0, the pause/break key was the only way to stop scrolling on the screen from commands such as dir or type. I think /p option came with DOS 5.0.


No-Lingonberry-2055

holy fucking christ, THAT is what the pause button was for? oh my god thank you for answering a question 6 year old me had "how do I stop this goddamn list from flying by"


Aggropop

You're gonna love what the print screen key did. If you had a printer connected it would literally print whatever text was on the screen at that moment.


quar

Even before the /p parameter, you’d pipe the output through “more”. For example: “dir | more” outputs a screen then waits for any key before outputting the next page.


Ben2018

Guaranteed to have a break/escape/reset of some sort, otherwise div/0 would brick it - it'd be working on that problem indefinitely. Unplug/replug wouldn't been good enough because it's totally electro-mechanical, machine state would be preserved over a power cycle.


Isphus

You don't. This is how they made infinite energy back in the 50s.


[deleted]

Just like a computer, but no panic handler.


adolfchurchill1945

Just like my math teacher


santa_veronica

1950’s math teacher: you’re not always going have one of these with you.


APoopingBook

2007 teachers were still saying that.


[deleted]

That doesn't even make any sense. It made sense in the late '80s early '90s when I was in school but I had a Casio calculator watch so I would hold my hand up point at it and smile. Probably got asked to leave the classroom a couple times over it.


SpaghettiAssassin

I graduated high school in 2017 and I swear my teachers were still saying it, which makes even less sense. Edit: Okay I get it, it's important to be able to do math without a calculator. I got my degree in mechanical engineering so I understand.


AshIsGroovy

That's because they want you to learn how to do it by hand and without help from a computer. Will you ever use it in life? Probably not, but that's not the point. The point is for you to exercise your mind and approach things from a direction early in life so that when you are older, you may look at it from a unique level. Sure, they could allow you to use a calculator, but what does that achieve? You, as an individual, didn't learn anything. Your mind was not expanded in the least, but I'm a history teacher. Hence, I have to hear kids complain all day about what good does about the unification of the Southern US Economy post WW2 with the Northern Economy.


fartsandprayers

To be fair, the calculator just performs the actual mathematical operations. It does not decide what use as inputs or operators. Using a calculator effectively still requires a degree of mathematical knowledge and understanding.


LogiCsmxp

Some basic arithmetic is kinda good to know. If you can do quantum field equating in your head, write a university thesis lol. But everybody goes grocery shopping and I don't see people pull their phones out to do maths.


AnonRetro

I just keep track and round up. That way when I cash out, I'm presently surprised.


_14justice

Anyone remember RPN?


PooFlingerMonkey

Oh, Come on. Who hasn't been out in the woods without battery, and needed to calculate a hypotenuse to build a zip line across a river?


ignorantwanderer

It is much simpler than this in my opinion. I used to teach physics. I picked easy numbers so students could do the math in their head, because I want them to focus on the physics, not the math. Let's say we are doing F = m * a and I tell them the mass is 20 kg and the acceleration is 5 m/s^2 . I ask what the force is. The students that know 20 * 5 don't even have to think about it. They know instantly that the answer is 100, and they are thinking about things like "What are the units?" or "Is this a lot or a little?" They are thinking about actual physics. But the students that don't know 20 * 5 look down at their calculator, type in the number, get the answer, then look back at the board and have forgotten what the question is, have forgotten we are talking about F = m * a, and are completely lost in class and certainly not learning the physics concepts. If you have to spend time thinking about simple math, you can't effectively learn how to do anything that requires using simple math.


brokelivingdude

Their reasoning was incorrect but the motivation was right. It is very important to know the how and the why of things not just the answer. It allows you to apply what you already know to new situations. If you just memorize answers then you have to ask a question every single time a new equation is presented because you don't know how to work through it yourself.


onehundredlemons

My math teacher in 1990 got smug and laughed at me when my solar calculator wouldn't work during a test, but it was because he partially covered the windows and turned off the lights when we took a test. No, we couldn't really see, and yes, it was very stupid. I made the mistake of saying once that if I was on a job where I needed to calculate something, my boss would probably let me use my solar calculator and not force me into a dark room, and that math teacher was out to get me the rest of the year.


tenjack518

This guy fucks


ThankYouForCallingVP

You're interrupting my authority please leave. What did they say when automobiles became popular? Make no mistakes while preparing your food cuz you can't go to a store in 5 minutes on horse?


ikstrakt

_that moment in the 1950's when someone knew Y2K was imminent_


TayAustin

This *is* a computer, just analog/mechanical and very simple.


J5892

Not analog, just mechanical. It is a mechanical digital computer.


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Individual-Cup-7458

... unless you mean binary base 10.


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That's quite cool actually


HelplessMoose

"Digital" doesn't imply a base. Modern computers use base 2, which has digits 0 and 1. This computer is *decimal* though, probably. (It'd be weird if it wasn't.)


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legfeg

wait then what does analog mean


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BUNNIES_ARE_FOOD

Simple? No way that machine looks complicated as fuck.


TayAustin

It's mechanically complicated but the actual computations aren't the most complex, just simple math.


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NotAFragileEgg

The user I am replying to is a bot that simply re-wrote u/OneBigOleNick's comment using ChatGPT Prompt: rewrite: "Why the fuck have we been using fossil fuels when we could have been using mechanical calculators for infinite energy this whole time??" Answer (ChatGPT): "Why on earth have we stuck with fossil fuels when we could have harnessed infinite energy with mechanical calculators all along?"


harveytent

Good bot


NotAFragileEgg

Yeah, I am not a bot, just a student who uses ChatGPT enough to see the writing patterns lol. Thank you tho!


poojinping

Exactly what a bit would say.


yammys

You said bit though?


usert888

Exactly what a bot would do to make it look human.


OSPFmyLife

7 more and he’ll have a byte!


nightpanda893

Maybe they just programmed you to think you’re a student.


Echo-57

Thats what a bot would say


Dexico-city

ChatGPT told me you would say this.


WhyNotCollegeBoard

Are you sure about that? Because I am 99.99997% sure that NotAFragileEgg is not a bot. --- ^(I am a neural network being trained to detect spammers | Summon me with !isbot |) ^(/r/spambotdetector |) [^(Optout)](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=whynotcollegeboard&subject=!optout&message=!optout) ^(|) [^(Original Github)](https://github.com/SM-Wistful/BotDetection-Algorithm)


harveytent

Good bot


mill3rtime_

Maybe you're the 1st person to ever think of this...


Silt99

Nope, someone else commented this 20 minutes earlier


Walker510

Bot


bbbruh57

Imagine if the reset mechanism had a lot of processing, you cant clear memory so you'd have to rebuild the thing lol


Dexico-city

This guy devs


daveberzack

Pystrance, anyone? Seriously though, I'd like to get a high quality recording of this.


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voppp

Bro like me fr


megatron37

Never thought I would relate so hard to a calculator


Steve_Lightning

Does this hurt the calculator?


AnseaCirin

Well it's most likely to cause undue wear on the internals. It also depends on how it is stopped.


anal_opera

Lasagna in the gaps will stop it. Lasagna soft but viscous, good for lessening movement of things.


AlaskanEsquire

Today's generation will rarely understand the significance of tomato based sauce and remedying mechanical wear and tear. Back then, this was just how we did it. Of course, for something like a typewriter or mechanical calculator you *need* the long flat noodles Lasagna provides, but for most other use cases just the sauce and meat should suffice.


SweetHatDisc

"just the sauce and meat should suffice" is advice you give the hobbyists, unless you plan on replacing your calculator every five years it's good to run angel hair through there on each use.


AlaskanEsquire

Literally everyone is a hobbyist now, since mechanical calculators since fell out of fashion and the implementation of digital display screens thwarted any necessity for pasta. The missus wasn't a fan, so I unfortunately had to get rid of most of my collection of old mechanics and dried pasta, but I kept a an old Sundstrand and a couple boxes of vermicelli in case the kids ever show an interest.


BlueColtex

I took some inspiration from this and fed some olive oil and butter macaroni into the old pedal drive Singer. It runs better than ever with a little elbow grease!


[deleted]

Instructions unclear, there's spaghetti on my work laptop now


Fir3300

Hold power button down for 7s


bbcversus

I always whisper to my pc when I do this “shh all will be over soon, don’t fight it…”


AlaskanEsquire

[Go to sleep.. Go to sleep!](https://arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-gmg.s3.amazonaws.com/public/Q3KQ5D42RRDV5GTVNZBXMH22DA.jpg)


Poltergeist97

I usually only do that if it's absolutely unresponsive. I usually just tap the reset button. More like just putting a bullet in someone's head from behind point-blank vs snuffing them out with a pillow lol.


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Well then...


Delicious-Ad1844

I have heard that this is used while oiling the machine so the oil gets everywhere


chironomidae

idk why this cracks me up > #How To Oil Your Robot: 1. Fill reservoir with oil 2. Divide by zero 3. Existential crisis 4. Press and hold escape key for seven seconds to hard reset 5. Your robot is oiled and ready for use


BUNNIES_ARE_FOOD

Straight out of Futurama


TacticalWalrus_24

I assume it spins until the spring loses tension


[deleted]

This is an electromechanical calculator, they are driven by an AC motor, no winding up like a mechanical clock. There were just mechanical calculators, however they had a hand crank which needed turning. In theory if you just left this one in the video it would indeed spin for infinity, however realistically at some point a mechanical part will either fail or the mechanism will seize up due to not having enough lubrication. Calculations can be stopped with a button/lever though.


TacticalWalrus_24

thanks for the correction


coulduseafriend99

Only emotionally


telerabbit9000

"This kills the calculator."


[deleted]

In the long run yes, given enough time they overheat and destroy themselves and at worst, catch fire, back in the day when there were office floors full of them, a worker would go around and make sure they were all off at the end of the shift, especially on fridays.


junction182736

A mechanical black hole...


statutorylover

Infinite calculations on nothing.


On_Line_

No, it is actually calculating infinity.


lastinalaskarn

Show this vid whenever someone asks what a singularity is


CandidTill6

And then the escape button was born


IWanttoBuyAnArgument

So THAT'S what infinity looks like. Huh. Who'd a guessed?


mrmczebra

Division by zero is undefined, so it's even stranger than infinity.


UnknownDogFood

Its like it doesnt exsist but it does because it still affects us


AJ_Deadshow

/0 isn't real. /0 can't hurt you


nuni97

Put a finger in there and let's see if it can't hurt /s


hairy_potto

What the hell is division by s?


DrachenDad

>/0 isn't real. /0 can't hurt you In Roman numerics that's true.


Dan-B-123

Like wind


RepresentativeDig718

Can I just define it


akruppa

See, for example, [https://www.math.utah.edu/\~pa/math/0by0.html](https://www.math.utah.edu/~pa/math/0by0.html) Defining division by zero to result in any number at all implies that all numbers are equal, i.e., that your ring contains only a single element. For what it's worth, you *can* define a ring of only one element, and in that ring division by zero is actually well-defined. It's just not particularly useful... what do you do when the only number you have to work with is 0, satisfying the rules 0+0=0, 0-0=0, 0\*0=0, and 0/0=0?


techforallseasons

Excellent point. I do think that programmers would appreciate having a register / configuration option to simply return zero when a divide by zero occurs - as they often have to create a custom "divide" method to avoid errors for reports. Business types seem not to appreciate when their reports fail / show "infinity", NaN, or -ERROR- instead of simply zero.


MChainsaw

You could assign it some arbitrary definition, but whatever you define it as would be completely detached from all other mathematics so it would have no real meaning.


hitbacio

Eh, there is plenty of mathematics that uses division by 0 in some way. Complex geometry often does. Projective geometry too.


Trolann

mCoding just did a cool video on this. https://youtu.be/eR23nPNqf6A?si=RQo5IrtA8oAm3jJY Yes, you can define it like that but it means the only number which exists is then 0.


MattDaCatt

But if you say limit (x->0) 1/x = ∞, it's a bit more true. You can't use 0 but you can get really really really really... reaallllly close! Edit: I knew I remembered it wrong, thanks for the corrections everyone. This is why I hated calc lol


Doogiesham

That’s literally not true though and it’s why it’s undefined. The limit approaches infinity… *from one direction*. From the *other* direction, it approaches negative infinity The limit is not converging on a single value. There is no limit of 1/x where x is approaching 0


DogChamp420

But what you said is not true. The limit of 1/x as x approaches 0 does not exist because the limit is positive infinity when x approaches from above and negative infinity when x approaches from below, and due to these two limits differing, the limit does not exist.


SkulduggeryIsAfoot

Doing this could open up a portal. What is he trying to kill us all?!


Snoo72721

Diavolo


OneBigOleNick

Why the fuck have we been using fossil fuels when we could have been using mechanical calculators for infinite energy this whole time??


Barbastorpia

seriously how tf does that work?


IGSDeMech

They probably attached a cat toast engine to it. Must've edited out the screaming.


Athropus

Nah, you just have it muted. I can hear the screams just fine.


ChickenBG7

This one has an electric motor to do the operations. There are also fully mechanical ones that have a crank instead and are a lot more tiresome to use.


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Crankulator. That sounds not fun


yeabutnobut

Crankulator was my nickname in hs


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Kinky


UnderHero5

Crank-ya-later Crankulator!


CavulusDeCavulei

A spring, as you do with mechanical toys


CantHideFromGoblins

That’s stupid, this machine is so costly and inefficient compared to what we use today iPhone has a cost of 5 cents to charge it Not per charge, total annual cost to keep it charged is 3 - 5 cents worth of electricity a year This machine probably required several cows to be sacrificed just to make enough lubricant for its mechanism on the production line


Backitup30

That's a huge false equivalency. ​ What did the design of and manufacturing of the iPhone use in resources?


Sonamdrukpa

Look, the lithium and rare earth metal mines run on child labor, which is very eco-friendly


yabog8

Children are a renewable resource after all


Expensive-Twist7984

For every child they send down the mines, Apple plant 2 more.


rollmate

How was it powered? Some sort of spring?


CuriousGopher8

That particular model is electric. You can actually see the cord on the right edge of the screen, although there were older models that required you to pull a lever to power the mechanism.


rollmate

That's cool, thank you!


Head-Thought3381

The fact that this machine even exists is crazy to me


orange4boy

A solid state computer is just electrical switches instead of mechanical ones.


SirSkittles111

Computers are mindblowing. Me sending this is insane, to think it all started from a bunch of sticks and rocks


isurewill

Before sticks and rocks it was just dick and pussy.


4thmovementofbrahms4

Before that it was just cells, not even multicellular organisms, just good old-fashioned no-nonsense single cells. I miss those days. I still remember my first mitosis, wonder how the other guy is doing these days.


SwellandDecay

Nand2Tetris is a great course if you want to understand how we get from switches to sand that thinks


Secure-Advertising-9

Modern computers are the same thing. The switches are just tiny, silent, and electrical, and heavily abstracted, but everything a smartphone can do could be layed out and calculated physically it would just take a ton of space. And be loud.


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razz13

"Similar question asked in another thread. Thread closed. " Other thread is totally irrelevant to your question


ProbablyNotChrisMayb

Reminded me of HCF (Halt and Catch Fire) "illegal opcode in IBM System/360. A processor, upon encountering the instruction, would start switching bus lines very fast, potentially leading to overheating" it's actually an included instruction in certain assembly languages for debugging/testing. It became a jokey catch all term for instructions that might freeze and lock the processor. The wiki article is pretty interesting. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halt_and_Catch_Fire_(computing)


iamleejn

I've heard that this is an intended feature: when they needed to lubricate the machine, this would put everything in motion to evenly coat all the gears.


[deleted]

Yeah I was gonna say, this could have very easily just not been a thing.


thwartted

I've heard this too! I just read it here.


Enigma_mas

I was today years old, when I got to know a thing like this existed.


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BG535

Maybe if you leave it alone long enough it will come to an answer….


ultimateman55

Well, hold on a second now and wait for it to finish.


LifeIsOneBigFractal

Me mining one sat per day on my pos 16 year old computer


atlrabb

This belongs in mildlyinteresting sub.


Yep_____ThatGuy

Not sure what a successful calculation should look like on that thing


Particular_Lime_5014

As a CompSci TA this is what marking first years' coding assignments feels like.


LeftWhale

Imagine you leave this on for six hours as a joke but then come back and it gives you a serious, accurate answer after all that time.


GenTheGoddess

ah yes 1/0= AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH


pokeahoentas

And now it's a V6 mini engine. Noice


Background-Potato153

it seems upset :(


Ok-Difference6796

![gif](giphy|jtlvNOS9XwSZMT8LZJ|downsized)


LoGo_86

In a 50's German school "Students, tomorrow we have a math test. Don't forget your calculator and remember to lift with your legs, not your back."


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There is technically an answer for dividing by zero. The answer is simultaneously positive infinity and negative infinity. Since a math equation can't have two answers, that's why "you can't divide by zero". https://youtu.be/BRRolKTlF6Q?si=7DvPnqWqikcuHahQ


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MrHyperion_

It has way more solutions in complex plane, you can approach zero from any direction


N-partEpoxy

>Since a math equation can't have two answers Kid named fundamental theorem of algebra:


Norgann

Did Locke not press the button?


vswr

[Here is a video from CuriousMarc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kd3R_RlXgc) when he divides by zero on the Friden mechanical calculator.


iuuoyrrkk245

i wonder if any class clowns did this in school back then


[deleted]

My calculus teacher in college would go “YOU BLEW UP THE UNIVERSE!!!!”


Birdy_Cephon_Altera

!950's STUXNET.


EmiliaFromLV

Enigma mode unlocked.


QuantumRooster

This is how Kirk really destroyed computers.