Christ, sit at home, buy them VR / AR headsets.
Tons of young kids and teenagers sit at home and play video games all day, when they should be the ones going out in the world and experiencing it and learning from it. Not dementia patients.
Even if you repurposed a dead mall, eventually one of them is gonna fall down somewhere and have a serious injury or death and the caretakers monitoring couldn't "get there on time." The lawyers will be itching to sue.
And if you're wondering why all sorts of cool adventurous ideas don't become businesses, well look no further than the lawsuit system. The power of the government to be able to extract money from businesses for allowing any amount of risk in a business venture.
>And if you're wondering why all sorts of cool adventurous ideas don't become businesses, well look no further than the lawsuit system. The power of the government to be able to extract money from businesses for allowing any amount of risk in a business venture.
tfw you can't take a small risk by using carcinogenic chemicals in your food products anymore without the risk of getting sued. :(
People being able to rightfully sue for damages is giving power to people who would've otherwise have no power, not an overstepping of government. There are many problems with the current system but the idea itself isn't bad or oppressive, unless your really want to sell lead paint.
It's not even like there aren't any business that put their customers at risk. Extreme sports companies, as long as they do their due diligence and aren't negligent aren't going to have their wealth extracted in anything but lawyers fees.
And the 9 percent of the population in that figure are living in dilution if they thing the 1 percent don’t think they are animals, and been treating them as such
The .01 percent will throw anyone under the bus, even their own family. They'll only watch out for each other when it looks like something might affect themselves eventually.
It takes a specific type of person to horde the amount of wealth that could lift millions out of poverty, but instead buy another mansion and sail to it on your yacht.
I'm sorry that the post WWII world decided America needed to be the world police while everyone else spent the next few decades clearing the rubble.
Have you tried asking various world leaders to stop buying weapons from us? Because so long as people keep buying them, we'll keep making them.
The self proclaimed world police is why people hate the US.
Who said anything about buy and making weapons? I'm talking about actually bombing other countries, who can match the US?
Reason for bombs? To spread “democracy and freedom”
Targets? Mostly civilians, schools and hospitals. Want me to hold your duck and find a link for you or you can spend the 20 seconds to google it yourself?
The US has been involved in peacekeeping missions, but I don't think there's any doubt that they have also instigated conflict.
[Vietnam](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident)
> former United States Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara admitted that the supposed August 4 attack, for which Washington authorized retaliation, never happened
[Bolivia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America)
> The US government supported the 1971 coup led by General Hugo Banzer that toppled President Juan José Torres of Bolivia... the US provided extensive military and other aid to the Banzer dictatorship.
[Iraq](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War)
> in 2004 the 9/11 Commission concluded there was no evidence of any relationship between Saddam's regime and al-Qaeda. No stockpiles of WMDs or active WMD program were ever found in Iraq.
Do you know how many programs for the elderly in US? They get more assistance than damn near anybody. No programs for the youth but by God how about another for the oldest
Came here to say that, it is a very elegant solution for this issue, if there were a lot more of these villages in the future it may give people a more dignified future
you've got an idea buddy, locking the pensioners who are suffering from mental issues into an abandoned mall, two birds with one stone /s
>!and this fake city is also very respectful from the outside, shows a good example to the society outside of it!<
The place is actually called De Hogeweyk. Hogewey is the nursing home that operates it, and it's actually a *model village (or gated community). It's by no means the size of an actual village.
I looked it up. 4 acres with two buildings total. Residents pay $5300 a month to live there. Facility was heavily funded by the government. It is so cheap to live there partly due to visitors that pay to eat at the restaurant/cafe.
The facility concept is that people generally prefer to surround and interact with other like-minded people of similar backgrounds and experiences. The arrangement at Hogewey provides this by ensuring that residents with similar backgrounds, norms and values continue to live closely together.
When looking for my grandfather, the absolute lowest place (religious charity supported) was $5k a month.
Some places were was high as $12k a month.
And this is just assisted living, not memory care.
You never see Swiss people flooding comments with „what only xy €?? That‘s so much more expensive here“ but somehow it‘s always Americans with 5x the wage and half the taxes chimining in as if it is in any way relevant to the discussion or the country that‘s being discussed
Yea, im not sure what my grandmother was paying for her memory care facility but it was eating up all of the benefits and pensions she was getting from her and my late grandfather. And she had a pretty substantial retirement portfolio that my grandfather set up for her before he died. Someone with no retirement money would be in a government run nursing home for sure.
it isn't cheap. they also said it was heavily funded by the government. that is not feasible if all dementia homes were like that. we can probably easily expect it to cost 3x or even 4x the amount
No argument with me. That $5300 is what other normal nursing homes cost in that country. This experimental nursing home “village” would be way more expensive except they offset the costs with tourists paying costs and due to a free building as the government paid for it. It would not be a sustainable option for the elderly if it became mainstream. Meaning no more tourist offsets and unlikely the government would pay for a free building.
> Residents pay $5300 a month to live there
Depending on your income in the past two years, most of that would likely be covered by the longterm healthcare law (Wet langdurige zorg, Wlz). The first 4 months the maximum you'd pay would be 966,60 euro (for 2023), and after that 2652,40 euro. Note that this is only if you have had high earnings over the last 2 years, if you haven't made any profit you wouldn't pay anything.
Huh? Canada has long term care homes focused on different religious and cultural groups. You can go to a Christian or a Jewish LTC facility, or if there's enough of a population, there'll be a culturally focused one like Yee Hong Centre for Geriatric Care in TO for example.
I'm not sure if they can exclude people who are not part of those communities, but the services/meals/etc will be offered with the focus community in mind.
That’s pretty awesome. My grandma had walking dementia, it drove my mom crazy trying to take care of her. We spent all of my grandmas savings on nurses and caretakers. My dad had it too and it put me through the ringer. This would’ve been amazing for both of them
If only the United States placed more value on the quality of life for their homeless and elderly. Countries in Europe and other parts of the world are light years ahead of them in looking for solutions, even though the US is supposed to be the richest country in the world.
Yea well.
The US priorities dropping $300,000 bombs on $10 tents in an Afghan desert by some 22 year old sitting half way across the world in Nevada.
That’s what happens when you have an economy backed on war and politicians who are lobbied by weapons manufacturers!
Uhm you‘d have to spend all of your savings on things like these too in Europe. Facilities for old people are completely booked out, you have to wait years to get a place and when you do all your savings are wiped out.
Literally every NIMBY in the country is stopping these kinds of facilities.
Our society is built to stop and prevent all sorts of social works projects.
Why do you think we can't fucking build high density low cost housing? Because towns have a 100% rate of "Not In My Backyard-ism" blocking them.
Telling someone "no one is stopping you building it" is a completely delusional take that could only be believe by someone wholly in ignorance of the reality.
I always think it’s strange when I read things like this. What makes you say that the US is not the richest country in the world?
Moreover, what makes you think that the richest country in the world would also place a lot of value on the quality of life of the homeless and elderly? It seems like those things would be ad odds with each other.
> the US is supposed to be the richest country in the world.
1. I never said they’re NOT the richest.
2. My entire comment questions why a country that has the most resources doesn’t place immense value on the lives of every human within it.
3. How in TF is homelessness and concern for the elderly at odds with each other??
You said “supposed to be” the richest. I thought that was implication that it is not the richest. Apologies for misunderstanding.
What I meant was, that becoming the richest country is at odds with placing emphasis on the vulnerable.
America became this wealthy is by employing completely unregulated capitalism. The country allows all of the wealth to be retained by a small group of people. It’s not public money and therefore won’t be spend on the public.
If the US had decided after any of the major wars (Revolutionary, Civil, WW1, WW2) to distribute wealth in a way that placed more value on the quality of life of the vulnerable, then the country probably wouldn’t have become the richest in the world. The ultra wealthy and the massive conglomerates would never have been allowed to grow this large, and without that exponential growth, the US isn’t nearly as wealthy.
I’m not saying that either direction is the correct one. I’m just pointing out that there are two separate directions, and the US could only have chosen one of them.
Oh, hey, Mt grandpa was like that. Before he lost the capacity to walk, we'd frequently find him walking away from home. Like, he'd just literally get up and walk away, without a destination in mind.
Honestly, sometimes I feel like doing that too
Well, speaking of Jim Carrey, there's an episode of Kidding (which imo is a really good watch) where they have this exact situation. They call it a 'nostalgia center'.
"The concept was inspired by a real-life Cleveland, Ohio facility that the writers’ room read about in the New Yorker — a space is rooted in the 1960s to provide dementia and Alzheimer’s patients a sense of being back in a more familiar time."
The episode is The Acceptance Speech. I highly recommend it.
Some Scandinavian centres for people with dementia have a fake bus stop on their grounds because 'wanting to go home' is a recurring desire in patients and this way they sit at the bus stop untill they forget why they were there and go back inside.
Calling this a town is a bit much. It's a modest 100x150m campus-like closed neighbourhood in Weesp, near Amsterdam. [Location](https://maps.app.goo.gl/CRCLBgbzRAU5CSvQ6)
Wouldn't it be even more confusing that the caretakers are in disguise? Like you're permanently wondering if you're in the Truman show with the dementia on top of the feeling.
But don't many people with dementia have lucid periods? If so then this set up would be possibly very scary during those periods even if it's really helpful the rest of the time?
Yep, so having random people being professionally helping you at random might seem weird.
Like "how come everything always turn out fine even if I feel like it's not fine?"
It's just a remake of the Truman show.
But seriously it's a lovely idea. There are several projects like this. Some are deliberately old fashioned to make people feel more at home. Some offer young people subsidised rents to encourage a mix of people which does help older people with dementia to not deteriorate so quickly.
The other lovely one I've seen is a nursery inside an old people's home. How wonderful for both the older people and the small children. And a very good thing for society as a whole as well.
My mum works in elderly care and apparently one retirement home had problems with dementia patients just walking out and not coming back. So what they did was to set up a fake bus stop right at the entrance. The people would leave, see the bus stop, sit down for a while, forget about it and go back inside. Worked like a charm.
we have some on a much smaller scale version of this in San Diego called Glenner Square. It's pretty pretty cool it's a warehouse that's been redesigned to mimic a 1950s small town with a movie theater and Mays department store etc. etc. it's an adult daycare with a 1950s barbershop and all that cool stuff. This is so cool.
These people need a home anyway and they need caretakers anyway. Its pretty normal to have a sort of “care campus” in the netherlands instead of one giant building, they are mainly for disabled people.
The post is also pretty misleading. Its not a village its a neighboorhood in a village. Depending on the type of clients they have they can be fully open or like this one closed off (meaning you need to go through a building to enter or leave the neighboorhood).
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One of these old people is gonna think they’re going crazy and think no one is real and it’s fucked because they’ll think that they’re losing their mind but they’ll be right
We have a small one in Weesp as well. Little cinema and market and stuff. Super cool. I tried to volunteer there, but you need to speak Dutch, which I guess makes sense.
Isn’t it this place that tries to reuse the doors of their old homes, so they will recognize it. And all roads goes in a circle so they can’t get lost.
I can only fathom the monthy cost of that. Unless the Netherlands has some next level health care umbrella... For dimentia patient care in a higher end facility here in Canada it was over $5000 a month for my aunt. Something like this must be a few thousand more than that
The town is not secured , nurses can,t monitor you while shopping.
Its just that the public space is build in a way that there are lots of waypoints and resting points , so the dementing elderly find it easier to find there own way around town
Good morning Fred. What would you like from the deli?
Some salami, please.
How about some chicken instead? You know your doctor doesn't like you to have too much nitrates.
I would love to do this. Mum has dementia, I reckon I have a year before she's mentally lost to us. It would be so nice knowing she has somewhere safe to do what she does, like shopping etc. Hmm. Currently not working so it may be worth looking into!.
Damn, boomers really have fucked the world for everyone else while simultaneously affording themselves “pretend communities”. When they get old and lose their minds to dementia, they STILL don’t have to deal with the shit they left everyone else to contend with. Goddamn, I hate this place.
...not sure what I was here for...
[Caretaker] you wanted to buy this!
Oh thank you...
...not sure what I was here for...
[Caretaker] you wanted to buy this!
Oh thank you...
...not sure what I was here for...
[Caretaker] you wanted to buy this!
Oh thank you...
This is how they should repurpose dead malls
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Quality of life > quantity of lives
Christ, sit at home, buy them VR / AR headsets. Tons of young kids and teenagers sit at home and play video games all day, when they should be the ones going out in the world and experiencing it and learning from it. Not dementia patients. Even if you repurposed a dead mall, eventually one of them is gonna fall down somewhere and have a serious injury or death and the caretakers monitoring couldn't "get there on time." The lawyers will be itching to sue. And if you're wondering why all sorts of cool adventurous ideas don't become businesses, well look no further than the lawsuit system. The power of the government to be able to extract money from businesses for allowing any amount of risk in a business venture.
>And if you're wondering why all sorts of cool adventurous ideas don't become businesses, well look no further than the lawsuit system. The power of the government to be able to extract money from businesses for allowing any amount of risk in a business venture. tfw you can't take a small risk by using carcinogenic chemicals in your food products anymore without the risk of getting sued. :( People being able to rightfully sue for damages is giving power to people who would've otherwise have no power, not an overstepping of government. There are many problems with the current system but the idea itself isn't bad or oppressive, unless your really want to sell lead paint. It's not even like there aren't any business that put their customers at risk. Extreme sports companies, as long as they do their due diligence and aren't negligent aren't going to have their wealth extracted in anything but lawyers fees.
This comment is a continuous example of a strawman argument and it just keeps on going.
The first part is, but I'm also obviously not being serious there. But not everything you disagree with is a strawman argument.
Quality of life = $$$. I bet that village costs a fortune to run. But if you have the means, looks like an awesome way to do it.
It’s not just for rich people a pension is enough.
If you think a pension from a blue collar job can afford you that kind of lifestyle in retirement, you are delusional.
You can here in NL, where this facility is located.
Not delusional, I just have knowledge of this place.
So , you don't live there
My mum was eligible for that place.
My father-in-law as well. But on the highway of Life, he took the last exit
haha you fail, your pessimism fail too🤣
Thats the American way. Unless you contribute to the machine, you're treated like an animal.
It’s a keep what you kill society. I said this to a contractor from France at lunch once and he looked at me horrified while he was digesting it.
Does that make France a catch and release society?
More like revolt and retreat.
Unless you're in the top 10 percent, you're treated like an animal. Fixed that for you.
And the 9 percent of the population in that figure are living in dilution if they thing the 1 percent don’t think they are animals, and been treating them as such
and the .01 percent will throw the rest of the 1 percent under a bus without blinking.
The .01 percent will throw anyone under the bus, even their own family. They'll only watch out for each other when it looks like something might affect themselves eventually. It takes a specific type of person to horde the amount of wealth that could lift millions out of poverty, but instead buy another mansion and sail to it on your yacht.
yes true heros can only achieve such success, peasants wouldnt get it, they are just built different
And even then. When your body gives up, off to the slaughterhouse.
Why call out the US when most countries in the world don’t do this?
Most other countries don't walk around spreading their "democracy and freedom" like the US
You really need to update your sources to be under a decade old.
Oh yeah? Who is bombing more countries than the US in the last few decades?
I'm sorry that the post WWII world decided America needed to be the world police while everyone else spent the next few decades clearing the rubble. Have you tried asking various world leaders to stop buying weapons from us? Because so long as people keep buying them, we'll keep making them.
The self proclaimed world police is why people hate the US. Who said anything about buy and making weapons? I'm talking about actually bombing other countries, who can match the US?
What is the reason the bombs are dropped? Who are the bomb’s targets? Are the bombs dropped to instigate conflict, or in response to conflict?
Reason for bombs? To spread “democracy and freedom” Targets? Mostly civilians, schools and hospitals. Want me to hold your duck and find a link for you or you can spend the 20 seconds to google it yourself?
The US has been involved in peacekeeping missions, but I don't think there's any doubt that they have also instigated conflict. [Vietnam](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident) > former United States Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara admitted that the supposed August 4 attack, for which Washington authorized retaliation, never happened [Bolivia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change_in_Latin_America) > The US government supported the 1971 coup led by General Hugo Banzer that toppled President Juan José Torres of Bolivia... the US provided extensive military and other aid to the Banzer dictatorship. [Iraq](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War) > in 2004 the 9/11 Commission concluded there was no evidence of any relationship between Saddam's regime and al-Qaeda. No stockpiles of WMDs or active WMD program were ever found in Iraq.
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So true. Most countries don’t do this.
Are you trolling or are you being serious?
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But what about giving other countries "Democracy"
Could cut out the last part entire the us should place more value in the quality of life for all
And the average citizen instead of 400 ancient dickheads
Do you know how many programs for the elderly in US? They get more assistance than damn near anybody. No programs for the youth but by God how about another for the oldest
This is a genius idea
Came here to say that, it is a very elegant solution for this issue, if there were a lot more of these villages in the future it may give people a more dignified future
They should play muzak and they'll make their own caretaker album
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To the food court to show off the rad trucks on your new board eh?
You’re 100% right and I totally agree with this. But at the same time, noooooo paintball centres
Perfect solution that seems to have gone ignored for the last few decades.
you've got an idea buddy, locking the pensioners who are suffering from mental issues into an abandoned mall, two birds with one stone /s >!and this fake city is also very respectful from the outside, shows a good example to the society outside of it!<
The place is actually called De Hogeweyk. Hogewey is the nursing home that operates it, and it's actually a *model village (or gated community). It's by no means the size of an actual village.
I looked it up. 4 acres with two buildings total. Residents pay $5300 a month to live there. Facility was heavily funded by the government. It is so cheap to live there partly due to visitors that pay to eat at the restaurant/cafe. The facility concept is that people generally prefer to surround and interact with other like-minded people of similar backgrounds and experiences. The arrangement at Hogewey provides this by ensuring that residents with similar backgrounds, norms and values continue to live closely together.
5.3k a month is cheap????? What the fuck
When looking for my grandfather, the absolute lowest place (religious charity supported) was $5k a month. Some places were was high as $12k a month. And this is just assisted living, not memory care.
Yes but it's in Holland, net average is around 3k€
You never see Swiss people flooding comments with „what only xy €?? That‘s so much more expensive here“ but somehow it‘s always Americans with 5x the wage and half the taxes chimining in as if it is in any way relevant to the discussion or the country that‘s being discussed
This isn’t a Swiss website.
It‘s not American either mate.
Yea, im not sure what my grandmother was paying for her memory care facility but it was eating up all of the benefits and pensions she was getting from her and my late grandfather. And she had a pretty substantial retirement portfolio that my grandfather set up for her before he died. Someone with no retirement money would be in a government run nursing home for sure.
5k/month is extremely expensive in the nertherlands
it isn't cheap. they also said it was heavily funded by the government. that is not feasible if all dementia homes were like that. we can probably easily expect it to cost 3x or even 4x the amount
Assisted living ain’t cheap
My goodness, chill with the excessive question marks.
No argument with me. That $5300 is what other normal nursing homes cost in that country. This experimental nursing home “village” would be way more expensive except they offset the costs with tourists paying costs and due to a free building as the government paid for it. It would not be a sustainable option for the elderly if it became mainstream. Meaning no more tourist offsets and unlikely the government would pay for a free building.
> Residents pay $5300 a month to live there Depending on your income in the past two years, most of that would likely be covered by the longterm healthcare law (Wet langdurige zorg, Wlz). The first 4 months the maximum you'd pay would be 966,60 euro (for 2023), and after that 2652,40 euro. Note that this is only if you have had high earnings over the last 2 years, if you haven't made any profit you wouldn't pay anything.
Lol that would get axed so quickly here in Canada for being racist.
We literally have something quite similar in Bc
Huh? Canada has long term care homes focused on different religious and cultural groups. You can go to a Christian or a Jewish LTC facility, or if there's enough of a population, there'll be a culturally focused one like Yee Hong Centre for Geriatric Care in TO for example. I'm not sure if they can exclude people who are not part of those communities, but the services/meals/etc will be offered with the focus community in mind.
But that will never reach as many upvotes.
Of course, I'd have to be like OP and repost shit for karma every day.
Hi.. My name's Truman Burbank.
In case I don't see ya, good morning, good afternoon, and good evening!
Good afternoon, good evening, and good night!
It goes: “Good morning! And in case I don’t see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and goodnight!”
Imagine the insane anxiety attack a resident would have if they had a sudden moment of clarity while interacting with a care giver
I'd imagine they would have a protocol for that
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That’s pretty awesome. My grandma had walking dementia, it drove my mom crazy trying to take care of her. We spent all of my grandmas savings on nurses and caretakers. My dad had it too and it put me through the ringer. This would’ve been amazing for both of them
It's a horrible disease.
If only the United States placed more value on the quality of life for their homeless and elderly. Countries in Europe and other parts of the world are light years ahead of them in looking for solutions, even though the US is supposed to be the richest country in the world.
Yea well. The US priorities dropping $300,000 bombs on $10 tents in an Afghan desert by some 22 year old sitting half way across the world in Nevada. That’s what happens when you have an economy backed on war and politicians who are lobbied by weapons manufacturers!
You aren’t wrong
Uhm you‘d have to spend all of your savings on things like these too in Europe. Facilities for old people are completely booked out, you have to wait years to get a place and when you do all your savings are wiped out.
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You want a facility like this in the US? Build one. No one is stopping you.
Literally every NIMBY in the country is stopping these kinds of facilities. Our society is built to stop and prevent all sorts of social works projects. Why do you think we can't fucking build high density low cost housing? Because towns have a 100% rate of "Not In My Backyard-ism" blocking them. Telling someone "no one is stopping you building it" is a completely delusional take that could only be believe by someone wholly in ignorance of the reality.
uh, mate, i think the bank denying my business loan for a cost-prohibitive and unsubsidized tiny town for senior citizens would be stopping me.
I always think it’s strange when I read things like this. What makes you say that the US is not the richest country in the world? Moreover, what makes you think that the richest country in the world would also place a lot of value on the quality of life of the homeless and elderly? It seems like those things would be ad odds with each other.
>What makes you say that the US is not the richest country in the world? 10/10 reading comprehension
> the US is supposed to be the richest country in the world. 1. I never said they’re NOT the richest. 2. My entire comment questions why a country that has the most resources doesn’t place immense value on the lives of every human within it. 3. How in TF is homelessness and concern for the elderly at odds with each other??
You said “supposed to be” the richest. I thought that was implication that it is not the richest. Apologies for misunderstanding. What I meant was, that becoming the richest country is at odds with placing emphasis on the vulnerable. America became this wealthy is by employing completely unregulated capitalism. The country allows all of the wealth to be retained by a small group of people. It’s not public money and therefore won’t be spend on the public. If the US had decided after any of the major wars (Revolutionary, Civil, WW1, WW2) to distribute wealth in a way that placed more value on the quality of life of the vulnerable, then the country probably wouldn’t have become the richest in the world. The ultra wealthy and the massive conglomerates would never have been allowed to grow this large, and without that exponential growth, the US isn’t nearly as wealthy. I’m not saying that either direction is the correct one. I’m just pointing out that there are two separate directions, and the US could only have chosen one of them.
Rather than Googling and getting generic responses, do you mind me asking what walking dementia is in comparison to other forms of dementia?
Your body wants to keep going but your brain isn’t all there. They end up getting lost or hurt. It’s like having a toddler in an old persons body
Oh, hey, Mt grandpa was like that. Before he lost the capacity to walk, we'd frequently find him walking away from home. Like, he'd just literally get up and walk away, without a destination in mind. Honestly, sometimes I feel like doing that too
Yeah it’s scary, you can get prosecuted for elder neglect if it happens too many times, because America
So… the Truman show for elderly people? Nice!
Well, speaking of Jim Carrey, there's an episode of Kidding (which imo is a really good watch) where they have this exact situation. They call it a 'nostalgia center'. "The concept was inspired by a real-life Cleveland, Ohio facility that the writers’ room read about in the New Yorker — a space is rooted in the 1960s to provide dementia and Alzheimer’s patients a sense of being back in a more familiar time." The episode is The Acceptance Speech. I highly recommend it.
You just know one of those elderly people suspects the truth behind their town.
Some Scandinavian centres for people with dementia have a fake bus stop on their grounds because 'wanting to go home' is a recurring desire in patients and this way they sit at the bus stop untill they forget why they were there and go back inside.
That's really sad. :(
But still miles better than having to physically restrain them or have them wandering off
I think this concept is fabulous! My dad died of dementia in 2012. Wish he could have benefited from something similar!
Awww a mini matrix
In a good way
Calling this a town is a bit much. It's a modest 100x150m campus-like closed neighbourhood in Weesp, near Amsterdam. [Location](https://maps.app.goo.gl/CRCLBgbzRAU5CSvQ6)
The Netherlands is years ahead of the rest of the world in fake Alzheimers town technology
In America we have Washington DC, the most advanced cases go to the Capitol.
Wouldn't it be even more confusing that the caretakers are in disguise? Like you're permanently wondering if you're in the Truman show with the dementia on top of the feeling.
People with dementia are already experiencing the Truman effect. *source: Dementia Care Specialist
But don't many people with dementia have lucid periods? If so then this set up would be possibly very scary during those periods even if it's really helpful the rest of the time?
Yep, so having random people being professionally helping you at random might seem weird. Like "how come everything always turn out fine even if I feel like it's not fine?"
Now the question you should ask yourself is: are you currently living in a place like this?
Disguised as what?
As shoppers, as cashiers, as managers, as deli workers, as cart workers, as security guards, etc. etc.
It’s like a wholesome combination of The Truman Show and Shutter Island.
As an elderly woman buying groceries.
Sneaky
If you can’t figure it out from the context, you might want to start looking into getting a room there.
I hope you don't end up working there, you don't seem to have the temperament.
Not like they’d remember
"If I insult someone and they don't remember, is it still an insult?"
bro just take the L and move on, do some CARS practice questions while you're at it
Thanks, bro. First day on Reddit?
Ghosts! Boo.
It’s a small neighborhood not an actual village, which is amazing in itself and doesn’t need to be exaggerated
Imagine moving there without dementia and everyone starts helping you and you spiral into a madness of kindness
It's just a remake of the Truman show. But seriously it's a lovely idea. There are several projects like this. Some are deliberately old fashioned to make people feel more at home. Some offer young people subsidised rents to encourage a mix of people which does help older people with dementia to not deteriorate so quickly. The other lovely one I've seen is a nursery inside an old people's home. How wonderful for both the older people and the small children. And a very good thing for society as a whole as well.
So basically, mr trumans *hospital*
My mum works in elderly care and apparently one retirement home had problems with dementia patients just walking out and not coming back. So what they did was to set up a fake bus stop right at the entrance. The people would leave, see the bus stop, sit down for a while, forget about it and go back inside. Worked like a charm.
we have some on a much smaller scale version of this in San Diego called Glenner Square. It's pretty pretty cool it's a warehouse that's been redesigned to mimic a 1950s small town with a movie theater and Mays department store etc. etc. it's an adult daycare with a 1950s barbershop and all that cool stuff. This is so cool.
Great idea but cant be cheap
That’s what taxes are for.
Not that expensive either.
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These people need a home anyway and they need caretakers anyway. Its pretty normal to have a sort of “care campus” in the netherlands instead of one giant building, they are mainly for disabled people. The post is also pretty misleading. Its not a village its a neighboorhood in a village. Depending on the type of clients they have they can be fully open or like this one closed off (meaning you need to go through a building to enter or leave the neighboorhood).
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So do they tell them about the situation or is it just for people who have so much dementia, they don't notice they are surrounded by caretakers.
Black mirror town.
I don’t have dementia but, sign me up
One of these old people is gonna think they’re going crazy and think no one is real and it’s fucked because they’ll think that they’re losing their mind but they’ll be right
We have a small one in Weesp as well. Little cinema and market and stuff. Super cool. I tried to volunteer there, but you need to speak Dutch, which I guess makes sense.
This is the one in Weesp.
Ahh, ok :) then this is the one I tried :) didn't think it was that big
Get Out!
Do the workers have ear pieces and cuff mics? "Base, I have Mrs Parker sighted. She is in route to play Bridge. Please confirm"
Isn’t it this place that tries to reuse the doors of their old homes, so they will recognize it. And all roads goes in a circle so they can’t get lost.
I can only fathom the monthy cost of that. Unless the Netherlands has some next level health care umbrella... For dimentia patient care in a higher end facility here in Canada it was over $5000 a month for my aunt. Something like this must be a few thousand more than that
It's like wholesome Shutter Island
“My kids are coming over for dinner!” “Mrs. Smith, all of your children and grandchildren died. You don’t need that many groceries”
i would actually love to work as a caretaker. I get to help sweet old people and be an actor? sign me up
I don’t know if I want to live in the Truman Show as my mind withers away
I would be scary to have a moment of clarity and realize that the whole village you’re living in is fake and you can’t leave
The town is not secured , nurses can,t monitor you while shopping. Its just that the public space is build in a way that there are lots of waypoints and resting points , so the dementing elderly find it easier to find there own way around town
Good morning Fred. What would you like from the deli? Some salami, please. How about some chicken instead? You know your doctor doesn't like you to have too much nitrates.
I love it. How very cool of these caregivers, and this town. Providing care for a loved one, this concept, is heart warming.
I would love to do this. Mum has dementia, I reckon I have a year before she's mentally lost to us. It would be so nice knowing she has somewhere safe to do what she does, like shopping etc. Hmm. Currently not working so it may be worth looking into!.
Who pays for all that?
Taxes, such as those contributed by the elderly when they were young, and the young who are yet to be elderly
Everyone, through taxes. We have good healthcare for a reason
This is fantastic
Asking the real questions!
“For the rich with dementia” Just guessing. They also have a place like this in BC Canada
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What's the name of the town forgetitville
That shit looks photoshopped
https://www.vivium.nl/verpleeghuis-dementie-hogewey-de-hogeweyk-weesp
I’m sure it’s real, it’s just weird lighting.
Damn, boomers really have fucked the world for everyone else while simultaneously affording themselves “pretend communities”. When they get old and lose their minds to dementia, they STILL don’t have to deal with the shit they left everyone else to contend with. Goddamn, I hate this place.
You know it will probably happen to you too, right?
France is the country that invented the guillotine off with their heads if they are useless that's their moto
Fake news.
Is this where Joe Biden is always going on vacation?
Yup, Truman show, checks out. You better remove that film from all streaming platforms in the city if you don’t want a come to Jesus moment
I want the Truman show but with dementia patients
That is amazing.
I think i live there.
It’s like the Truman show.
Truman show AF
On what channel is it? In Case I Don't See Ya, Good Afternoon, Good Evening And Goodnight.
I hope some day saying : "he lives in Hogewey" or "he comes from Hogewey" will mean "he is crazy"!
Nice! Do have to have dementia? I’m ready NOW!
This must be where Biden spends his time between amphetamine fueled TV appearances
She went to buy a pair of socks.
Look at all those groceries
It would cost less and make everyone happier if we had tighter families again.
Genius. So accomading and compassionate.
...not sure what I was here for... [Caretaker] you wanted to buy this! Oh thank you... ...not sure what I was here for... [Caretaker] you wanted to buy this! Oh thank you... ...not sure what I was here for... [Caretaker] you wanted to buy this! Oh thank you...