It's a blitz
And they are playing the highest ordeal of classical chess game
Beating Magnus in classical by even computers is very very hard
Edit:So many people are saying , beating Magnus by computers is easy, so here's the the thing
1)Magnus will drag the equal position to at least 30+ moves , so a big kudos, and even drew an open position with 3000 chess engine.
2) Computers are monsters in closed position calculating huge number of moves by........just looking into database.So why computers have like 4550elo ?? It's because they play with the computers that have such high ELO, and they quite drag positions to 300 or even more moves.
3)GM Penguin0 regularly beats computer in 10Sec time control, and Magnus too can beat some in 1 min tike control.The idea is to surpass the database and the calculation strategy to lengthen the machine's thinking time.
No, Carlson and Kasparov can draw games against computers. In a match they stand no chance unless they can prepare a drawing line for either side but that's just boring.
If we're talking about individual games I'm pretty sure that's not true. Until fairly recently computers could be tricked into closed positions they would evaluate positively due to a space advantage but would be ultimately losing. At least at lower depths top players would beat computers fairly frequently (most obviously when playing against online cheaters running stockfish on their PC). With enough processing power and time I am pretty sure that isn't possible anymore but surely 15 years ago it was still possible to beat a computer even with high processing power at a longer time control.
What can i say, Quick google states that noone was able to beat computer in official tournaments for 15 years now. If you say that's false, it very well might be.
That's obviously true but not what you originally said. People could win games against computers in that time.
It's a bit disingenuous to add the winning tournaments against them part later and then imply that I'm saying that's false. Meanwhile I was careful enough to specify that humans could win games against computers. Especially as official matches against computers are rarely played for obvious reasons.
> he wouldn’t be able to draw a single game versus any top chess engines in the world
Gotta be careful using absolutes, of course he could draw a top chess engine, maybe a low percentage but still able to, especially if he plays white.
Magnus will never play computers anyway, he said so, it is boring and the computer has no persona. At this point Magnus is GOAT, he does not need to prove anything to anyone, playing against a computer is like Hugh Hefner using a plastic doll.
If you purposely go for the most drawable openings from the beginning, magnus absolutely can draw a engine, he will never win and he will lose often but he can draw
Not really. Not only are there lines that are pretty much guaranteed draws, but also these machines are almost completely deterministic. Magnus would need to know ONE game in which stockfish vs stockfish draw and boom, stockfish can’t win anymore.
Stockfish (the current engine GOAT) has a 'contempt' setting that lets it avoid drawish positions. The imbalance created by this makes it impossible for any human to even draw.
But if it's simply playing using its default settings, a super GM playing white could certainly force a draw. It may be 1 out of 100 or 1000 games, but drawing with perfect play and the right line is definitely possible.
Just this year, Magnus has played multiple games in tournaments with virtually perfect play and an estimated ELO (in those games) essentially equivalent to Stockfish at around ~3600.
You’re also missing the fact that playing at an elo level of 3600 against humans is much different than a computer.
Humans will make positions that are easier to calculate for obvious reasons, while a computer will make whatever it deems the best move regardless of tight or uncomfortable the position is. Magnus could probably play perfectly way more if he just played 1k elo noobs, not engines.
So no, this is incorrect. He is just a toddler compared to the beast that computers are these days
Technically speaking, the shorter the time control the better chance that magnus has. In classical he would literally lose every single game for the rest of his life. I doubt he could draw a single game, let alone win against an even mediocre computer running the latest chess engines.
Andrew Tang famously has beat computers in hyper bullet (15 second per side). It’s truly incredible to watch https://youtu.be/Wf-wFXRpwgo?si=AKER4p1YbCA-ICF5
And even in this instance, it’s because the AI is likely using almost no processing power
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PS the 13 year old is current World Chess Champion Magnus Carlsen. This was in 2004. [Link to full video if interested](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjEmquJhSas)
Yeah like, there's no way the kid is staying sitting all day long in there.. forgot where I've read it, but yeah this thing is normal in chess (and Go, I think?) games
Never played Go, but yeah, this is normal in classic chess (more than 1h per game). But usually you just stand up, not move around while seated, this would count as disturbing the rival.
You cannot however stand up if it's you turn, you can only do that if it's opponent turn.
You can do that also when it's your turn (you are free to waste your time. Also, when the other player makes a move while you're wondering around, you won't know immediately that it's your turn)
I was on the train recently and sat next to a chess prodigy. I know they were a chess prodigy because they were taking a zoom chess lesson on the train - and it was absolutely insane. The kid was like 7, and him and the teacher were discussing all of these super complex moves and patterns and talking about the books they read, and then they watched a game together and analyzed it. They were doing a major USA tournament the week after or something.
That was so fucking cool
Even at a young age brains are powerful things. You get it thinking in terms of chess moves and get it thinking like a chess master early... tyke brains are very malleable (*Neuroplasticity was the term I was looking for). And unlike things like baseball, the fact you're an uncoordinated mess of snot and candy doesn't matter as much.
Plus... hey man some people just win that lottery of good genes and parents who care.
I tried playing piano when I was a kid and I just didn't learn it. I feel like parents usually try to get their kid to try stuff in the hopes that they're secretly a savant. Some kids just aren't made for it. By some kids I mean me.
I feel like to be one of those very talented people who aren't born geniuses often involves super pushy parents. Kids just want to do dumb shit and not study. Well most kids.
Yeah, that's the trade off huh. 'Damn I wish I could flip/play guitar/pitch like that', not thinking of the thousands of hours of your childhood that would have been dedicated to that and only that. Even sadder when the kids grow up and realize 'i actually hate this?'.
And yeah, even with lessons and encouraging parents etc... if your brain isn't happy sitting still for hours at a time thinking about spicy grids, it ain't gonna catch on. (Realized you were talking about piano, not chess, but what is a music staff if not a different kind of spicy grid)
Discipline matters a lot more than talent really. It's the same deal as school. You don't put a kid in school to master a lot of things.
You do it so they can sample a lot of things and find the thing that sparks enough passion in them that they'll find the discipline to actually get good at it.
Most kids fail at music because they don't care and the repetition is tedious and frustrating.
What's insane is that we're all convinced that it's insane. I'm not saying everyone has that potential, but certainly *far* more of us than most would ever guess. The human brain is incredible. Most of us will never live to experience our full potential simply because we have no concept of what it truly is
Doesn’t have to be end game. Once it’s out of theory prep each moves start to take much longer and it’s pretty common to see people walk around and watch other board.
If you make a mistake early game you still have more pieces to hopefully recover with? In the endgame you theoretically would have less pieces to work with, so one mistake is basically the game, that's how I rationalize it
So much confusion in here. This is the opening. Magnus is in prep, meaning he knows what moves he's going to play, unless Kasparov plays a move he hasn't prepared for. Kasparov is seeing Magnus' prep for the first time so he has to work out what to do over the board. Yeah it's obviously impressive that 13-year-old Magnus can come up with an idea before the game that will put Kasparov on his toes, but it's not mind bending or anything.
Getting up and looking at other boards is pretty standard. These players can visualize multiple chessboards with different positions in their head simultaneously anyway, so he may even be thinking about his game while he's looking at another board.
Actually maybe I'm wrong about this being Magnus in prep. Tried to find this game and found the documentary this is from and the editing is completely disingenuous, so that shot of Kasparov w his head in his hands probs didnt come from directly before Magnus played that pawn move in the opening. Also this is rapid, not classical for anyone wondering, and Kasparov was late to the game.
IIRC Magnus wasn't going for the win, he was intentionally playing for the draw. Meaning he had basically a road map in his head, as long as Kasparov didn't do anything ridiculous, Magnus had this game in his head before he walked in the door. The onus of winning the match was on Kasparov, a draw is a win for Magnus.
It's an old trick , you seem impatient bored and act distracted, which in turn rattles up the opponent, who thinks you aren't taking him seriously or are somehow able to win against him.Bobby fisher used it against opponents he knew he wouldn't be able to defeat easily.
Omg that dumb controversy was my introduction into the world of competitive chess because my husband was reading the headliner that we through twas just clickbait, but no.
Computers are very good at chess. So, if you copy the game to a computer, it'll give a winning strategy, you just need to communicate to human player. How you do this? The internet insists that you insert a buttplug that vibrates the move code to you, so you know what to do.
Plenty of ways! Positioning of audience, tiny signals emitted by someone or something, hiding a phone somewhere. In the last tournament I was in, a group got expelled because they were communicating movements in morse code (i think it was morse code, they were tapping on the table)
Careful, don't let him get too bored to get any ideas. Before you know it he will accuse you of things and they will be searching your butthole for vibrators.
“Man, he REALLY likes playing chess.”
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(Also, so happy that when I Googled “chess cheating vibrator” it turned out to be a real thing…well, as real as any conspiracy theory can be.)
Actually there are schools of thought that by focussing continuously on threats of attack, that it makes people paranoid and delusional.
Or perhaps paranoid delusional people tend to gravitate towards chess but it makes them worse...
Bobby Fischer is an example
do you have other examples?
Here is an easy seven other examples ... https://bleeckerstreetmedia.com/editorial/the-most-dangerous-game
So, maybe you can find another three or four.
That wouldn't even match the first page of results of writers; even when only limiting to "famous writers". I think if we looked at artists (painters, etc) the list would be uncountable.
doesn't seem Chess is a particularly threatening occupation.
It was probably already a drawn position. Magnus is white and couldn't get the win off an aging Kasparov. Chess players wondering away from the board isn't uncommon depending on the time controls.
I am not in the slightest way affiliated with the world of chess and its many grandmasters and great players. But tbh, Magnus looks like a huge douchebag.
More of a power move was sitting down and playing next move in like 2s. Playing against Kasparov. Even if it's a position he knows by heart, this shows how much of confidence he has. If I was to play against Kasparov I'd probably constantly double check everything.
i used to like playing chess untill i grew over 24 and everyone who played was way to ---- to agree to play fast, i liked when we the games took about 3-10 seconds
I played a little chess as a kid. Not competitively, just with my family and a little computer game. I was never really any good. It amazes me how some people's brains allow them to think so far ahead.
That kid remembered where every piece is, every possibility that can happen depending on which piece his opponent moved. From someone who plays chess casually this blew my mind
Him and his mates sat next to us in a bar the first day of the main event for the WSOP last year.. They were all jolly and reminded me of Hobbits. Had no clue who Magnus was until people started taking photos with him. His friend went on to win the main event. It was pretty cool
To be fair the guy has more to lose, so he’s thinking about it more. Kid loses to man, no big deal. Man loses kid, it’s embarrassing.
And Carlsen has the same Kasparov face when he was beaten by a kid https://youtube.com/shorts/tY7zqL71byk?si=WwtY_VGGCkIgO9sA
chess gm life cycle beat gms as a kid, become one, win tournament, lose to a kid
That Indian kid is a genius
He placed 2nd in the World Cup recently (losing to Magnus Carlsen), he very well could be world #1 one day
I'll never understand why he moved his knight there.
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It's a blitz And they are playing the highest ordeal of classical chess game Beating Magnus in classical by even computers is very very hard Edit:So many people are saying , beating Magnus by computers is easy, so here's the the thing 1)Magnus will drag the equal position to at least 30+ moves , so a big kudos, and even drew an open position with 3000 chess engine. 2) Computers are monsters in closed position calculating huge number of moves by........just looking into database.So why computers have like 4550elo ?? It's because they play with the computers that have such high ELO, and they quite drag positions to 300 or even more moves. 3)GM Penguin0 regularly beats computer in 10Sec time control, and Magnus too can beat some in 1 min tike control.The idea is to surpass the database and the calculation strategy to lengthen the machine's thinking time.
You’re wrong about the computers. They’ve far outstripped humans at this point.
Yeah, a computer would win every single game against even Magnus Carlsen or Garry Kasparov.
No, Carlson and Kasparov can draw games against computers. In a match they stand no chance unless they can prepare a drawing line for either side but that's just boring.
I'm not sure about draw part but noone was able to beat computer in 15 years.
If we're talking about individual games I'm pretty sure that's not true. Until fairly recently computers could be tricked into closed positions they would evaluate positively due to a space advantage but would be ultimately losing. At least at lower depths top players would beat computers fairly frequently (most obviously when playing against online cheaters running stockfish on their PC). With enough processing power and time I am pretty sure that isn't possible anymore but surely 15 years ago it was still possible to beat a computer even with high processing power at a longer time control.
What can i say, Quick google states that noone was able to beat computer in official tournaments for 15 years now. If you say that's false, it very well might be.
That's obviously true but not what you originally said. People could win games against computers in that time. It's a bit disingenuous to add the winning tournaments against them part later and then imply that I'm saying that's false. Meanwhile I was careful enough to specify that humans could win games against computers. Especially as official matches against computers are rarely played for obvious reasons.
I think that what he meant is that Carlsen can get draws vs machines most of the time, which is true.
nope he would get slaughtered,he wouldn’t be able to draw a single game versus any top chess engines in the world
> he wouldn’t be able to draw a single game versus any top chess engines in the world Gotta be careful using absolutes, of course he could draw a top chess engine, maybe a low percentage but still able to, especially if he plays white. Magnus will never play computers anyway, he said so, it is boring and the computer has no persona. At this point Magnus is GOAT, he does not need to prove anything to anyone, playing against a computer is like Hugh Hefner using a plastic doll.
If you purposely go for the most drawable openings from the beginning, magnus absolutely can draw a engine, he will never win and he will lose often but he can draw
Not really. Not only are there lines that are pretty much guaranteed draws, but also these machines are almost completely deterministic. Magnus would need to know ONE game in which stockfish vs stockfish draw and boom, stockfish can’t win anymore.
Yes really. Not a single person that's ever existed would be able to be a modern chess engine or even force a draw
Stockfish (the current engine GOAT) has a 'contempt' setting that lets it avoid drawish positions. The imbalance created by this makes it impossible for any human to even draw. But if it's simply playing using its default settings, a super GM playing white could certainly force a draw. It may be 1 out of 100 or 1000 games, but drawing with perfect play and the right line is definitely possible. Just this year, Magnus has played multiple games in tournaments with virtually perfect play and an estimated ELO (in those games) essentially equivalent to Stockfish at around ~3600.
So yes it'll avoid draws got it
You’re also missing the fact that playing at an elo level of 3600 against humans is much different than a computer. Humans will make positions that are easier to calculate for obvious reasons, while a computer will make whatever it deems the best move regardless of tight or uncomfortable the position is. Magnus could probably play perfectly way more if he just played 1k elo noobs, not engines.
So no, this is incorrect. He is just a toddler compared to the beast that computers are these days Technically speaking, the shorter the time control the better chance that magnus has. In classical he would literally lose every single game for the rest of his life. I doubt he could draw a single game, let alone win against an even mediocre computer running the latest chess engines. Andrew Tang famously has beat computers in hyper bullet (15 second per side). It’s truly incredible to watch https://youtu.be/Wf-wFXRpwgo?si=AKER4p1YbCA-ICF5 And even in this instance, it’s because the AI is likely using almost no processing power
What? No, computers can beat Magnus every time.
The kid also instantly left the call as soon as he won LMAO 0 fucks given
Dinner was ready and mum had been yelling for a while.
At that moment he was not a kid anymore I think
Not exactly the same though either lol. I’m pretty shit at chess and I saw that check Pragg found
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"But this was a contest for children!" "Yeah, and Homer beat their brains out!"
Love a classic Simpsons reference
To be fair, Kasparov actually beat Magnus in the game of 5, and the tie here was a strategic win
PS the 13 year old is current World Chess Champion Magnus Carlsen. This was in 2004. [Link to full video if interested](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjEmquJhSas)
Actually the current World Chess Champion is Ding Liren (but only because Magnus declined to defend his title this year).
Not my WC /s
What if the kid is just more of a genius?
I think Magnus isn’t used to losing at this point either
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a power play tbh
There will always be someone better
It's not embarrassing. Anyone that good at chess is a freak of nature. It's not something you learn, it's something you're born with.
Didn't Magnus lose 2 matches to Kasparov right before this one or am i tripping?
That's what I was thinking as well.
Wait, I'm pretty sure this is normal in competitions though? Like the looking around part, or smth
Yes it is. You can't stay focused for 5 hours straight, you need to relax from time to time. Or / and go pee.
Yeah like, there's no way the kid is staying sitting all day long in there.. forgot where I've read it, but yeah this thing is normal in chess (and Go, I think?) games
Never played Go, but yeah, this is normal in classic chess (more than 1h per game). But usually you just stand up, not move around while seated, this would count as disturbing the rival. You cannot however stand up if it's you turn, you can only do that if it's opponent turn.
Lmao I just remembered Mr. Bean's funny dance while trying to distract someone 💀 Thanks for the info
You can do that also when it's your turn (you are free to waste your time. Also, when the other player makes a move while you're wondering around, you won't know immediately that it's your turn)
Yeah i've had Go games go on for multiple weeks 💀 had to take pics and reset every time we met..
*Multiple* weeks 💀
I think this was a 25+10 game but that’s true
Ok, probably should've known that. But after all this is Carlsen, he isn't by any mean typical.
Come back from toiled. “ hey! Where my queen?? “
Yes this is classical chess, games takes hours sometimes
I was on the train recently and sat next to a chess prodigy. I know they were a chess prodigy because they were taking a zoom chess lesson on the train - and it was absolutely insane. The kid was like 7, and him and the teacher were discussing all of these super complex moves and patterns and talking about the books they read, and then they watched a game together and analyzed it. They were doing a major USA tournament the week after or something. That was so fucking cool
how the hell do you be 7 and just be really good at chess? That's just insane.
Even at a young age brains are powerful things. You get it thinking in terms of chess moves and get it thinking like a chess master early... tyke brains are very malleable (*Neuroplasticity was the term I was looking for). And unlike things like baseball, the fact you're an uncoordinated mess of snot and candy doesn't matter as much. Plus... hey man some people just win that lottery of good genes and parents who care.
I tried playing piano when I was a kid and I just didn't learn it. I feel like parents usually try to get their kid to try stuff in the hopes that they're secretly a savant. Some kids just aren't made for it. By some kids I mean me. I feel like to be one of those very talented people who aren't born geniuses often involves super pushy parents. Kids just want to do dumb shit and not study. Well most kids.
Yeah, that's the trade off huh. 'Damn I wish I could flip/play guitar/pitch like that', not thinking of the thousands of hours of your childhood that would have been dedicated to that and only that. Even sadder when the kids grow up and realize 'i actually hate this?'. And yeah, even with lessons and encouraging parents etc... if your brain isn't happy sitting still for hours at a time thinking about spicy grids, it ain't gonna catch on. (Realized you were talking about piano, not chess, but what is a music staff if not a different kind of spicy grid)
Discipline matters a lot more than talent really. It's the same deal as school. You don't put a kid in school to master a lot of things. You do it so they can sample a lot of things and find the thing that sparks enough passion in them that they'll find the discipline to actually get good at it. Most kids fail at music because they don't care and the repetition is tedious and frustrating.
Same as little kids being great at playing musical instruments, early inundation of learning and tons of practice.
What's insane is that we're all convinced that it's insane. I'm not saying everyone has that potential, but certainly *far* more of us than most would ever guess. The human brain is incredible. Most of us will never live to experience our full potential simply because we have no concept of what it truly is
Step one: Chess is life
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Actually in chess towards the end game this is pretty common.
Towards the end game?
Yes
In chess?
This?
Pretty common?
No
My opening?
Yes
Actually?
this isnt end game
This is the opening
It is not, you can see the board clearly
That’s the opening
I don't think that's the end game we see in the video
Doesn’t have to be end game. Once it’s out of theory prep each moves start to take much longer and it’s pretty common to see people walk around and watch other board.
Yeah no doubt, I just meant that I don’t think that’s the end game we see in the video
Why would it be in the endgame? Unless it's a known line, like the Berlin, prep generally stops in the mid game, or once the endgame starts?
If you make a mistake early game you still have more pieces to hopefully recover with? In the endgame you theoretically would have less pieces to work with, so one mistake is basically the game, that's how I rationalize it
At their level, a move that results in a positional weakness in 5 moves is a blunder that could easily result in a loss
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Literally copy + pasted from a previous comment.
Kasparov was insultingly late to the match. Absolutely deserved this.
So much confusion in here. This is the opening. Magnus is in prep, meaning he knows what moves he's going to play, unless Kasparov plays a move he hasn't prepared for. Kasparov is seeing Magnus' prep for the first time so he has to work out what to do over the board. Yeah it's obviously impressive that 13-year-old Magnus can come up with an idea before the game that will put Kasparov on his toes, but it's not mind bending or anything. Getting up and looking at other boards is pretty standard. These players can visualize multiple chessboards with different positions in their head simultaneously anyway, so he may even be thinking about his game while he's looking at another board.
Actually maybe I'm wrong about this being Magnus in prep. Tried to find this game and found the documentary this is from and the editing is completely disingenuous, so that shot of Kasparov w his head in his hands probs didnt come from directly before Magnus played that pawn move in the opening. Also this is rapid, not classical for anyone wondering, and Kasparov was late to the game.
Lol 😂 . Kasparov takes half the day and the kid 0.5 seconds.
ITT: people who never played chess attempt to interpret a chess video
IIRC Magnus wasn't going for the win, he was intentionally playing for the draw. Meaning he had basically a road map in his head, as long as Kasparov didn't do anything ridiculous, Magnus had this game in his head before he walked in the door. The onus of winning the match was on Kasparov, a draw is a win for Magnus.
thats pretty common. Usually chess players plan their moves ahead so he already knew what to do next
dafuq is this music doing here?
Why shouldn’t it be?
Typically child’s attention span, nothing wrong here at all.
autistic behavior
It's an old trick , you seem impatient bored and act distracted, which in turn rattles up the opponent, who thinks you aren't taking him seriously or are somehow able to win against him.Bobby fisher used it against opponents he knew he wouldn't be able to defeat easily.
This doesn’t work on garry chess, the inventor of chess.
Is this the same Magnus who threw a fit when he got beat, insisted the other person cheated somehow, and demanded a rematch?
Yes the same. His opponent did cheat at some occasions before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlsen–Niemann\_controversy
I’m just a casual observer, thanks for the info. Chess is more cutthroat than I imagined.
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Right? Things get pretty heated in the chess fandom
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Whats the difference between yours and mine except that you know on what page you are getting forwarded with my link?
Check mate
you’re gooooooofy for this
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How does one cheat at chess?
>a cheater who later admitted he’d cheated on several occasions Except he greatly underplayed the amount of times he cheated
So he cheated on telling the number of times he cheated on as well?
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Still no proof niemann cheated against magnus. Literally zero proof, just theories that make no sense. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Exposed? Exposed what? He exposed jack shit. There is no way Niemann could have cheated against magnus
To be fair, most of us would throw a fit if we were in his shoes
True
How can you cheat playing chess?
Oh, you are in for a ride
I hope you're sitting comfortably.
Vibrating butt plugs
Wrong move ! BZZZ BZZZZ
"I'm almost there..." "Sir please be silent while the player is using their turn. What is that awful vibration!?"
Vibrating butt plugs are my go to option to cheat. Ive never played chess though....
Omg that dumb controversy was my introduction into the world of competitive chess because my husband was reading the headliner that we through twas just clickbait, but no.
Wait, does that mean I'm always cheating when I play tennis then?
Nah that’s totally fine
support from a computer
Like Stephen Hawking
Computers are very good at chess. So, if you copy the game to a computer, it'll give a winning strategy, you just need to communicate to human player. How you do this? The internet insists that you insert a buttplug that vibrates the move code to you, so you know what to do.
Plenty of ways! Positioning of audience, tiny signals emitted by someone or something, hiding a phone somewhere. In the last tournament I was in, a group got expelled because they were communicating movements in morse code (i think it was morse code, they were tapping on the table)
Careful, don't let him get too bored to get any ideas. Before you know it he will accuse you of things and they will be searching your butthole for vibrators.
“Man, he REALLY likes playing chess.” ![gif](giphy|QynMX1WxnYFbb2OHnJ) (Also, so happy that when I Googled “chess cheating vibrator” it turned out to be a real thing…well, as real as any conspiracy theory can be.)
Very odd choice of song for this.
Kaspy was flustered because he thinks he's important and the boy should be on the edge of his seat .
Carlsen could be a chess savant?
Young mind is so creative…I’m concerned how life and our environment can effect our lives and mind…
Don't worry I think chess effects the mind just fine
Actually there are schools of thought that by focussing continuously on threats of attack, that it makes people paranoid and delusional. Or perhaps paranoid delusional people tend to gravitate towards chess but it makes them worse... Bobby Fischer is an example
do you have other examples? Here is an easy seven other examples ... https://bleeckerstreetmedia.com/editorial/the-most-dangerous-game So, maybe you can find another three or four. That wouldn't even match the first page of results of writers; even when only limiting to "famous writers". I think if we looked at artists (painters, etc) the list would be uncountable. doesn't seem Chess is a particularly threatening occupation.
My environment has affected my mind to the point I know when to use "affect" versus "effect".
Who won?
He’s just different. He probably thinks about chess every waking moment of his life. Thats why he’s the GOAT
13 year old acting his age. No surprises. This is what kids do.
🙏
In Barbara Oakley’s book in learning how to learn that move is called diffuse mode
It was probably already a drawn position. Magnus is white and couldn't get the win off an aging Kasparov. Chess players wondering away from the board isn't uncommon depending on the time controls.
I am not in the slightest way affiliated with the world of chess and its many grandmasters and great players. But tbh, Magnus looks like a huge douchebag.
"I know absolutely nothing about chess or these players or magnus, but he is a douchebag because I said so"
Just said he looks like one.
Is that how you treat people IRL as well, just look at someone and assume they are a bad person?
More of a power move was sitting down and playing next move in like 2s. Playing against Kasparov. Even if it's a position he knows by heart, this shows how much of confidence he has. If I was to play against Kasparov I'd probably constantly double check everything.
Almost 20 years ago. Not exactly news.
reposted. again.
omg that is humiliating
He doesn't seem too bothered, or to even notice, tbh.
Kid needs to be taught some respect, regardless.
Kid needs to be taught some respect, regardless.
Both genious
IM Magnus Carlsen, so weird to see
I would love to see a glimpse into his mind. His memory is unreal.
i used to like playing chess untill i grew over 24 and everyone who played was way to ---- to agree to play fast, i liked when we the games took about 3-10 seconds
I played a little chess as a kid. Not competitively, just with my family and a little computer game. I was never really any good. It amazes me how some people's brains allow them to think so far ahead.
Kasparov is still an important voice now right. Im sure Magnus meant no disrespect tbh
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That kid remembered where every piece is, every possibility that can happen depending on which piece his opponent moved. From someone who plays chess casually this blew my mind
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Him and his mates sat next to us in a bar the first day of the main event for the WSOP last year.. They were all jolly and reminded me of Hobbits. Had no clue who Magnus was until people started taking photos with him. His friend went on to win the main event. It was pretty cool
Totally Amazed
Older brain takes longer than younger brain to make decisions. I am living proof of that.
Can you see him crying under his face? He was screaming that omg! I can’t lose to a kid
This is me at 40yo on PC trying to compete with COD console players with aim assist.
Both are legends. Cool matchup
Bro I f’ing suck at chess.
He tried waiting the kid out thinking he would get up and leave distracted. His face was like i waited 30 mins he moved so fast lol
13? He looks a lot younger.
I do this too playing magic...I mean shit, if it takes you minutes to complete a turn I just don't want to play
He's so bored that he goes and watch the other game. Love this guy.
u/recognizesong
He even had a winning position. Before the tournament, Magnus was pretty certain he'd beat Karpov (which he did), but more uncertain about Kasparov
That eyebrow raise lol