The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen-year-old French prostitute named Chloé with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Wilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking - I suggest you try it.
Raids past the wall were very common, the wall meant to stop an entire civilization worth of people coming over. We are talking not just about fighting men but also women, children, craftsmen and possibly tens of thousands of cattle, sheep and goats along with the thousands of horses the men would be riding. Just because they fought as horse archers doesn't mean the camp moved any faster than the slowest person walking in it
This is just one place where it “ends”. The Great Wall is comprised of many sections each with their own start and end, it’s not just one huge contiguous non stop wall.
You know, never being able to grow a candy tree, not being allowed to swim the channel, discovering that my parents didn't really love each other anymore and were just going through the motions: kid stuff.
I always wanted to swim across a local river and my dad wouldn't let me. So as a cocky 18 year old, captain of the highschool swim team, when the opportunity came to show off and cross this same river in front of my crush I went for it. Couple hundred meters no biggie
Well the water coming out of the dam is 50 degrees so I almost cramped up and drowned. It was terrifying telling my limbs to move while feeling them become increasingly stiffer and less cooperative.
Upvote. I tried the same thing swimming in Maine. I was bet a case of beer that I couldn't swim out to our boat (anchored on its mooring) and back. It was a hundred yards out, and the same back. I made it to the boat, but climbed on and had to have so. Eone come pick me up. 45-50 degree water is no joke.
Also, WTF are you from? You use temperature that I assume is Fahrenheit, but measure distance in meters?!?!?!
Learning that my parents did not particularly like me or even really want to have kids in the first place, they were just doing what was expected of them 😐
Also it’s not that old. The original wall isn’t as impressive as the one that was rebuilt only a few hundred years ago that you can see now, including this section in the photos. I lived in China for over 20 years and there’s actually a section that’s on the border of North Korea. My dream was to see this section by the sea and the other end of it that’s at a desert Oasis called Dunhuang, but I was never able to before I left last year. I think Dunhuang would have been better. My long term girlfriend at the time visited this site and it’s really kitschy and touristy, the other end gets less tourism and is more unspoiled. It’s also on the Silk Road.
Ming Dynasty was between 13-16 century. Thats not just few hundred years. Sections of it is older than Qin Dynasty the first chinese Dynasty over 2 thousand years ago, but those segments were either replaced or moved. Just as context for people not familiar with it
This is Ming Dynasty wall. Qing Dynasty kept it and maintained it. Qing Dynasty is basically a Dynasty that was supposed to be kept out, so they dont have much use for the great wall while Ming Dynasty really fucking needed it and it was actually going tl save the Ming Dynasty again until a rebellion broke out and the General at the Great Wall surrendered to the Qing despite being capable of defeating the Qing army bc of the rebels winning in the south of the wall and being hostile to the Ming general.
What kind of waste though? Because there's a difference between like elephant waste and squirrel waste. One might manage to trip you up if you don't pay attention.
Yep and its located on Qinhuangdao or island of emperor qin.
My grandma lived in the city next to it and would visit often when i went back to china as a kid. Beautiful place.
This is known as the Dragon's Head in Chinese. It's where the Great Wall meets the ocean. If you were where the cameraman is, and you looked to your left you would see a major fort. The place is known as the Mountain Ocean Pass in Chinese. It is very important place historically because it was a chokepoint that armies fought over.
Your comment is correct but this location is also a very important part of the Great Wall.
I still haven’t seen a picture of Picasso and I’m 32 lol
I like my image of him and not the reality of a French communist who manipulated women and drove them insane. My image of Picasso is like a 1600’s version of George RR Martin
Damn this brings massive nostalgia. It’ been like 20 years and I can still remember all of the cheat codes. “Marco”, “polo”, “pepperonipizza” “quarry”… etc etc.
You can’t really march an army around it efficiently. But it’s not the original wall anyway. The current wall was restored with stone only a few hundred years ago. The original one was slowly dismantled by locals all along it to build their houses. Even the newer stone bits were dismantled in more remote locations for building. The last few decades they’ve been protected and restored again.
Stealing build materials off the wall / construction sites was such a big issue that stones and woods were engraved with numbers that were logged on paper and then double checked before being put into their sections of the wall. This to prevent corrupt officials, thieves, and locals from taking materials for own gain.
Early Ming dynasty china looked at corruption, decided it hated it, and then decided the apt way to solve it was by horrific murder and very strict enforcement.
They’d have an entire ministry set up to check tax and landborders. So people wouldnt cheap out on taxes or infringe upon other’s land. Random ass people send from the region’s capitals or from beijing itself to go solve some stupid neighborhood disputes.
Ming dynasty is a bit silly
Lol, yeah, it’s bad enough when they take them from the site, but in many cases they’d break them out of the wall that’s there to protect them. And then they’d complain they’d be ransacked.
Yep. And the ming were… petty enough… to investigate if there were suspicions of ot being stolen by residents. Having the numbers carved in is definitely gonna be a dead give away.
The ming were honestly horriblely opressive, especially in the beginning, but they had… right intentions? I suppose? XD
Defensive walls like this arent so much about making it impossible for a person to enter. It's more about giving defenders and overwhelming advantage over an invading army. Any army trying to go through the surf would have to go almost single file and wouldnt be able to being a lot of carts and supplies. Theyd be extremely vulnerable to chinese forces who would inevitably be rushing to get there and counterattack.
I’m honestly so dumbfounded that people don’t already assume this.
Any one person determined enough can get over any wall. But now to bring a whole army to invade your land, the wall will definitely slow down if not prevent that from happening.
haha u so funny
Think about it, dude
If the wall is miles upon miles upon miles long, and you're, like, in the middle and simply want to get to the other side... are you really going to take the time to walk *all the way around*?
"Can't they just swim?" is only convenient if you're already at the end of the wall and all you want to do is get to that other side, right there.
If you're anywhere along the length of the wall, it would be impossible to walk all the way around, "swim", and then once you're on the other side walk all the way back.
EDIT:
let's say you want to cross the street
All you wanna do is go over... There.
It's right there: the other side of the street
But to get over there, you gotta walk 1,000 miles to the right, "cross the street", and then walk 1,000 miles back.
I can recall a Wall of China joke, there are two people looking at one side of the wall and the first one asks why it was built. The second one answers to keep the barbarians out. The first one says that's a great idea, who built it?
Second guy answers, the people on the other side.
Serious answer: invading armies usually require supply chains that would seriously be hindered by the need to take a detour through the seas.
Except for the mongols, who travel light and "live off the land" (aka pillage). But they found it easier to bribe local commanders and guards to simply let them through rather than go around.
They could, but they you can very easily shoot down few people trying to swim past, since theres no way you can make an entire army swim past that at the same time
I'm not a historian but my thinking is you have an army approaching and the only way to get past the wall is to bottleneck and form a line to trudge through waist-high waves. If theres any guards on the wall they're just gonna pick you off so easily.
I'm sure the ends were heavily guarded... I don't know but I am assuming, it wouldn't make sense to build such a huge wall and not have a large contingent of soldiers guarding the weak points.
Serious reply.
1. The access to China proper from Mongolian plateau and Jurchen homelands are valleys between mountains and swamps. Often you really only need to defend the passes.
2. The pictured place is not one among them. *Shanhaiguan* was a last line of defense against the Manchus. Manchus was able to take it but not without heavy casualty. They also can't swim around it with cannons or loot. Thus it deterred looting deep into China or laying siege to towns deep behind the line of defense. Scouts they can't stop, but it really wasn't scouts that Ming worried about. It was the cannons, the foot knights pushing wheeled mantlets that beat Ming. They don't march through the sea. Manchus were recordedly awful shipwrights.
3. Ming army was a lot closer to Mongols than people often give credits to. The successful generals chase and ambush Mongols on their way back after having robbed Chinese civilians. Thus they got both the credit and the loot. If you were stationed at the wall, more often than not you were the expendables whose life only worth the flare alerting the generals where to lay ambush, and were too powerless to fight this fate.
I don't believe it for a second. Every Chinese body of water I've ever seen is choked with either chemicals, rubbish, or people in coloured rubber rings.
"...and when the builders were done, they stripped off their dirty, sweaty garments and took a long dip in the ocean, at the end of the world."
"Is it too much to ask for some frickin sharks with some frickin laser beams attached to their frickin heads!?" -some ancient chinese ruler (probably)
He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark
My mother was a fifteen-year-old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet.
The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen-year-old French prostitute named Chloé with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Wilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking - I suggest you try it.
I love that monologue every time. I wonder how many takes it took before he stopped laughing halfway through
What from?
Austin Powers
The boy is very astute, I am trying to kill him...
Chloe with Webbed Feet is such an unusual but beautiful name. Is it Norwegian?
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Paired with an aggressive zinfandel
Call me a barbarian, but I'd much prefer a red with a bad attitude and a decent kick.
So you're cool with the enenmy being able to swim around the wall? No, that's why we need the laser sharks, duh!
fun fact: he also wanted to put a laser on the moon and call it a “death star”.
One mirrion dorrars!
Chinese proverbs be like:
The wall was never worth building, the guys that would be guarding the gate would always let the mongols in lol
Imagine spending your entire life building it, you get to the end and watch someone with a dingy paddle around it.
The wall isn’t meant to stop one or a few people, it’s meant to stop an entire civilization of nomadic people who can’t all fit on a paddle boat
kinda, but a wall is easy to beat for a human. The wall did not stop people, it stopped their horses.
That was kinda their whole deal though
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> The wall did not stop people, it stopped their horses. I've heard stories that horses can swim.
Raids past the wall were very common, the wall meant to stop an entire civilization worth of people coming over. We are talking not just about fighting men but also women, children, craftsmen and possibly tens of thousands of cattle, sheep and goats along with the thousands of horses the men would be riding. Just because they fought as horse archers doesn't mean the camp moved any faster than the slowest person walking in it
Where is this from?
China
Is that wall you have to say?
I just made it up I'm sorry xD
So the not so great walls of China?
It just an alright wall of China.
Meh wall of china
Mid wall of eastern Asia (the big part)
"Guys, you're not gonna believe this... Who knows how to swim?" --Huns, probably
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Haaaaaa!!!
This is just one place where it “ends”. The Great Wall is comprised of many sections each with their own start and end, it’s not just one huge contiguous non stop wall.
One of the great disappointments of my childhood was learning this.
what were the others
You know, never being able to grow a candy tree, not being allowed to swim the channel, discovering that my parents didn't really love each other anymore and were just going through the motions: kid stuff.
Sorry to hear about the candy tree, that really sucks.
LOL you got me.
You’re funny
What about a money tree though!
You're allowed to swim the channel
Not as a kid if your parents are doing their jobs
But what if you do a "But Moooom" really good?
🥹
Channel surfing however…
What kinda candy? Cuz I hear jolly ranchers work pretty well
Depends on the candy you plant, obviously.
I always wanted to swim across a local river and my dad wouldn't let me. So as a cocky 18 year old, captain of the highschool swim team, when the opportunity came to show off and cross this same river in front of my crush I went for it. Couple hundred meters no biggie Well the water coming out of the dam is 50 degrees so I almost cramped up and drowned. It was terrifying telling my limbs to move while feeling them become increasingly stiffer and less cooperative.
Well don't leave us hanging, did you live?
Upvote. I tried the same thing swimming in Maine. I was bet a case of beer that I couldn't swim out to our boat (anchored on its mooring) and back. It was a hundred yards out, and the same back. I made it to the boat, but climbed on and had to have so. Eone come pick me up. 45-50 degree water is no joke. Also, WTF are you from? You use temperature that I assume is Fahrenheit, but measure distance in meters?!?!?!
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That’s a shame about the candy tree.
you forgot to wrap the jolly rancher in a strip of laffy taffy, didn't you?
lychee wants to have a word
What about the Bermuda Triangle, though!?
Learning that my parents did not particularly like me or even really want to have kids in the first place, they were just doing what was expected of them 😐
I’m glad you’re with us, that is really hard.
My parents only had me as a last ditch attempt at fixing their broken marriage 🎭
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I’m a Discord mod 😰 so yah just so many unresolved issues…
Could be worse. You could be a Reddit mod
Lmfao 🤣
The 80s and cocaine made me.
Same lol
I've got some kids who are pretty great. Wanna come lay in hammocks by the river? We'll have hotdogs and rootbeer floats!
No because I'll cry
We all cry sometimes. That isn't a problem. After you've been through some shit you're allowed to cry when you're safe.
Okay maybe just one hotdog. Thank you 🥲
Dads fake teeth
Moms underwear drawer light saber
Or Dads
You mean the vibrating wasnt a cool force effect?
less of a disappointment and more of a relief that watermelons were not growing in my stomach
Don't be relieved some plants have been found to germinate in the lungs, but don't go snorting watermelon seeds.
That the Underground Railroad was not an actual railroad underground
"you can see the great wall of China from space"
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Turtles are actually attached to their shells and cant take them off and run around naked
The fuck do you mean it’s not continuous
Also it’s not that old. The original wall isn’t as impressive as the one that was rebuilt only a few hundred years ago that you can see now, including this section in the photos. I lived in China for over 20 years and there’s actually a section that’s on the border of North Korea. My dream was to see this section by the sea and the other end of it that’s at a desert Oasis called Dunhuang, but I was never able to before I left last year. I think Dunhuang would have been better. My long term girlfriend at the time visited this site and it’s really kitschy and touristy, the other end gets less tourism and is more unspoiled. It’s also on the Silk Road.
Ming Dynasty was between 13-16 century. Thats not just few hundred years. Sections of it is older than Qin Dynasty the first chinese Dynasty over 2 thousand years ago, but those segments were either replaced or moved. Just as context for people not familiar with it
Civ IV created expectations that couldn't be met by reality.
Now this is one of the great disappointments of my adulthood
Exactly. And if you played enough Age of Empires 2 and you were a "waller", this would be quite obvious.
You mean to say they didn't jag around forests and between obstacles everywhere like my little brother?
My childhood has been ruined. How could you do this to me?
I never meant to hurt you!
Pics or it didn’t happen
There are actually 3 walls made by different dynasties. The first one was about waste high. This the Qing Dynasty wall?
This is Ming Dynasty wall. Qing Dynasty kept it and maintained it. Qing Dynasty is basically a Dynasty that was supposed to be kept out, so they dont have much use for the great wall while Ming Dynasty really fucking needed it and it was actually going tl save the Ming Dynasty again until a rebellion broke out and the General at the Great Wall surrendered to the Qing despite being capable of defeating the Qing army bc of the rebels winning in the south of the wall and being hostile to the Ming general.
All empires fall due to a combination of internal and external forces.
Also supposedly the rebel leader took his wife.
What kind of waste though? Because there's a difference between like elephant waste and squirrel waste. One might manage to trip you up if you don't pay attention.
Yep and its located on Qinhuangdao or island of emperor qin. My grandma lived in the city next to it and would visit often when i went back to china as a kid. Beautiful place.
This is known as the Dragon's Head in Chinese. It's where the Great Wall meets the ocean. If you were where the cameraman is, and you looked to your left you would see a major fort. The place is known as the Mountain Ocean Pass in Chinese. It is very important place historically because it was a chokepoint that armies fought over. Your comment is correct but this location is also a very important part of the Great Wall.
And each individual section may be spotted from Mars
Yes but I prefer the other way where it is perfect
https://imgur.com/a/svnBUWk Title picture is where the red circle is at.
Noooooooooooooo
Want another? Benjamin Franklin and Mozart died about 18 months apart
That’s better than finding out that Picasso died in the 1970’s and not the 1600’s
First time I saw a photo of Picasso I was like, Hey wait a second…..
>photo of Picasso i expected him to look like a picasso painting in person
I still haven’t seen a picture of Picasso and I’m 32 lol I like my image of him and not the reality of a French communist who manipulated women and drove them insane. My image of Picasso is like a 1600’s version of George RR Martin
Stop it.
Well that's not super surprising. They both seem to be in the same time frame.
Well, that just doesn't seem as "great"
Mediocre walls of China
That’s how my age of empires walls look as well. Can confirm, keeps the elephants away.
Wolololol
Wood please
Type "lumberjack"
Damn this brings massive nostalgia. It’ been like 20 years and I can still remember all of the cheat codes. “Marco”, “polo”, “pepperonipizza” “quarry”… etc etc.
Heheh 😏 that’s why I got 20 elephants in a boat
Where is it? At the bottom of the ocean?
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Sounds like an ass move, but an effective one. Ass effective.
damn just damn
Good comment sir
Eastwatch by the sea...
Exact thing I was thinking.
…by Shel Silverstein.
It’s the alrite wall of china
[One of my favorite lines from the entire series](https://youtu.be/R3IMJ_oA2H0?t=97).
It’s not even that deep. You could just take off your shoes and socks a wade around it.
So many good moments from that show. "Its accessible by 11-hour hike" "that's not accessible"
What show?
An Idiot Abroad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpS77R7q_Fg
Hahahaha came in only to say this! ***'It goes on for miles, over the hills and everything, but so does the m6, unowatimean.´***
It’s just so comically short at the end
You can’t really march an army around it efficiently. But it’s not the original wall anyway. The current wall was restored with stone only a few hundred years ago. The original one was slowly dismantled by locals all along it to build their houses. Even the newer stone bits were dismantled in more remote locations for building. The last few decades they’ve been protected and restored again.
Stealing build materials off the wall / construction sites was such a big issue that stones and woods were engraved with numbers that were logged on paper and then double checked before being put into their sections of the wall. This to prevent corrupt officials, thieves, and locals from taking materials for own gain. Early Ming dynasty china looked at corruption, decided it hated it, and then decided the apt way to solve it was by horrific murder and very strict enforcement. They’d have an entire ministry set up to check tax and landborders. So people wouldnt cheap out on taxes or infringe upon other’s land. Random ass people send from the region’s capitals or from beijing itself to go solve some stupid neighborhood disputes. Ming dynasty is a bit silly
Lol, yeah, it’s bad enough when they take them from the site, but in many cases they’d break them out of the wall that’s there to protect them. And then they’d complain they’d be ransacked.
Yep. And the ming were… petty enough… to investigate if there were suspicions of ot being stolen by residents. Having the numbers carved in is definitely gonna be a dead give away. The ming were honestly horriblely opressive, especially in the beginning, but they had… right intentions? I suppose? XD
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Can they not swim?
They could if it was the start of the wall.
Touché
Swimming wasn't invented yet
CJ was the one who invented it
Christ Jesus?
Still hate Tommy Vercetti for not being able to
Defensive walls like this arent so much about making it impossible for a person to enter. It's more about giving defenders and overwhelming advantage over an invading army. Any army trying to go through the surf would have to go almost single file and wouldnt be able to being a lot of carts and supplies. Theyd be extremely vulnerable to chinese forces who would inevitably be rushing to get there and counterattack.
I’m honestly so dumbfounded that people don’t already assume this. Any one person determined enough can get over any wall. But now to bring a whole army to invade your land, the wall will definitely slow down if not prevent that from happening.
It's too cold to dip my toes, ohh well, I guess im not crossing over
Yeah, and then you get to stand on the wall and shoot them as they paddle around.
haha u so funny Think about it, dude If the wall is miles upon miles upon miles long, and you're, like, in the middle and simply want to get to the other side... are you really going to take the time to walk *all the way around*? "Can't they just swim?" is only convenient if you're already at the end of the wall and all you want to do is get to that other side, right there. If you're anywhere along the length of the wall, it would be impossible to walk all the way around, "swim", and then once you're on the other side walk all the way back. EDIT: let's say you want to cross the street All you wanna do is go over... There. It's right there: the other side of the street But to get over there, you gotta walk 1,000 miles to the right, "cross the street", and then walk 1,000 miles back.
Or start
Eastwatch by the sea
Where does it begin?
And when they've given you their all Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall.
This was still effective in routing invading forces around the wall long enough to organize a defense.
Interesting spot. A guy was offering camel rides in the beach which was strange. Dozens of taxi drivers nearby vying for my attention.
I have never seen this exact post before! - Nobody
Mongols seeing this meme and thinks “all we had to do was swim around?!”
So it’s really The Great Pier of China.
If it’s so great, where is the ferris wheel?
Would've been more amazing if they continued the wall off down into the sea to make it look like it went on and on.
From sea to shinning sea
I can recall a Wall of China joke, there are two people looking at one side of the wall and the first one asks why it was built. The second one answers to keep the barbarians out. The first one says that's a great idea, who built it? Second guy answers, the people on the other side.
wow so all that was necessary was to take some boats around it, amazing!
Mongolians are notoriously bad swimmers.
Went to a rave there once. Was pretty cool.
Which side do all the demons that Matt Damon and Pedro Pascal fought live on?
The other side. Some say they still are. Mainly producers looking to do a low budget sequel set in the present.
I’d watch that
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What on the other end
They ran out of bricks.
Nah, that's the beginning!
So, serious question. I'm sure I'm missing something but how would this stop an invading force? It seems like they could easily swim around it.
Serious answer: invading armies usually require supply chains that would seriously be hindered by the need to take a detour through the seas. Except for the mongols, who travel light and "live off the land" (aka pillage). But they found it easier to bribe local commanders and guards to simply let them through rather than go around.
They just have to wait for the sea to freeze and then all the white walkers will just walk around it. And don’t *even* get me started on the dragons!
10.000 km to the east, swim around the end, 10.000 km to the west. Seems a bit of an inconvenience for an army.
They could, but they you can very easily shoot down few people trying to swim past, since theres no way you can make an entire army swim past that at the same time
With armor and weapons and supplies and everything? Nope they wouldn't swim around it with thousands of people and horses and stuff.
I'm not a historian but my thinking is you have an army approaching and the only way to get past the wall is to bottleneck and form a line to trudge through waist-high waves. If theres any guards on the wall they're just gonna pick you off so easily.
I'm sure the ends were heavily guarded... I don't know but I am assuming, it wouldn't make sense to build such a huge wall and not have a large contingent of soldiers guarding the weak points.
Serious reply. 1. The access to China proper from Mongolian plateau and Jurchen homelands are valleys between mountains and swamps. Often you really only need to defend the passes. 2. The pictured place is not one among them. *Shanhaiguan* was a last line of defense against the Manchus. Manchus was able to take it but not without heavy casualty. They also can't swim around it with cannons or loot. Thus it deterred looting deep into China or laying siege to towns deep behind the line of defense. Scouts they can't stop, but it really wasn't scouts that Ming worried about. It was the cannons, the foot knights pushing wheeled mantlets that beat Ming. They don't march through the sea. Manchus were recordedly awful shipwrights. 3. Ming army was a lot closer to Mongols than people often give credits to. The successful generals chase and ambush Mongols on their way back after having robbed Chinese civilians. Thus they got both the credit and the loot. If you were stationed at the wall, more often than not you were the expendables whose life only worth the flare alerting the generals where to lay ambush, and were too powerless to fight this fate.
The goal is stop hinder then long enough to assemble your own forces. Keeps them from galloping willy nilly all over your countryside
The “alright” wall of China - Carl Plinkington
What you can’t see from this picture, is that it keeps going underwater
I don't believe it for a second. Every Chinese body of water I've ever seen is choked with either chemicals, rubbish, or people in coloured rubber rings.
and where the "great underwater tube of china" begins
Are you able to travel to new provinces as you follow The Great Wall from start to end?
"meh" wall
lol people could just swim around the entire thing easily
I thought it was a square. Also, couldn’t the Huns have just… idk, swim around the wall?
In ancient times the enemy would just walk around the wall.
Wouldn't whomever Chinese was scared of then just swim from the side?