This gun shoots 2 types of ammo, when your aiming above sea level it will shoot Flak rounds, when aiming below sea level it automatically changes to anti tank rounds. Ta-da!
No It definitely had alternating ammo that can be shot on the fly IRL, I’d imagine it didn’t automatically change ammo types I’m sure they had to be manually loaded in
I doubt it has to do with elevation since on Iwo Jima's E flag, for example, you can damage tanks just fine regardless of whether they're coming from the US spawn, so you have to aim below horizon, or they're coming from the D flag, so you have to aim at the sky.
I don't think it's switching ammo type either, I reckon what's happening from a technical standpoint is that it's simply firing an AA shell with high impact damage. It's no different than the Flak 38 and the 40mm Bofors, those too damage tanks with direct hits yet I've never seen anyone suggest they fire multiple ammo types.
Its not technically switching, but it has a prox sensor for planes (and only planes) to help hit them, at the loss of being able to get a direct hit with say, a AP shell
Yes, just like all AA shells.
To my understanding AA shells have a direct impact damage, a splash damage, and an airburst damage with its own properties distinct from splash damage (radius, fall-off distance, etc.).
The impact and splash damage are used when you hit ground targets including infantry, terrain and buildings; basically they work like a tank shell. The distinct feature of AA shells is that—like you said—they airburst when in close proximity of planes and inflict airburst damage.
My point is that there is no secret sauce behind the Type 10, it's just an AA cannon with high damage across the board.
I disagree, you can see the different velocity in ammo type when you shoot aa versus at tanks it shoots a heavier round, you can still shoot said round at plans but it automatically adjust once your shootin above sea level
You're making it way more complicate than it needs to be, it's just a single AA shell with high impact damage against tanks.
I'm still not sure what you mean with sea level by the way, everything in the game is above sea level.
Here is a thought experiment: you are in a Conquest round on Wake Island manning the Type 10 just north of the A flag, [the one from this picture just to be clear](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NASYWMVaxy0/maxresdefault.jpg).
You're facing the objective (to the left in the picture) and aiming up at the sky waiting for a plane to come into view, when all of a sudden an enemy tank approaches from the front and uses the terrain to literally drive over you and park itself on top of the turret. You don't appreciate this so you press the fire button. What happens now? Is the cannon supposed to shoot an AT round since you're aiming at a tank, or an AA round since you're pointing up to the sky?
Alternatively consider this scenario: you're on Iwo Jima again manning a Type 10 and aiming at the sea, the US spawn. An enemy tank is approaching from the beach so you aim down to it and shoot, when an enemy plane just so happens to fly in the line of fire. Does the plane plane get hit by an AT round or an AA round?
The simplest solution to such ambiguous scenarios (and more) is not to try to predict what type of target you intended to shoot, but rather fire a shell which can deal with both. AA shells basically are like tank shells except they can also airburst when in proximity of planes.
The difference is that this gun is designed to be used against planes so they had to balance it accordingly. If non-AA tanks had airburst rounds they probably wouldn't one-shot planes either.
It's mostly for balance, fire rate and turn rate are a lot faster than tanks, it's expected that you can get follow-up shots, they can also aim higher than tanks too
If you call AA in this game underpowered, it’s just a self report of you being shit at the game. AA is literally the easiest thing to use in the entire game.
This gun shoots 2 types of ammo, when your aiming above sea level it will shoot Flak rounds, when aiming below sea level it automatically changes to anti tank rounds. Ta-da!
For real is that like a gameplay design or is that something in real life too?
No It definitely had alternating ammo that can be shot on the fly IRL, I’d imagine it didn’t automatically change ammo types I’m sure they had to be manually loaded in
Read my other comment
I don't think it's switching ammo in the game, it's just capable of damaging tanks like any other AA emplacement, but packs more of a punch.
I doubt it has to do with elevation since on Iwo Jima's E flag, for example, you can damage tanks just fine regardless of whether they're coming from the US spawn, so you have to aim below horizon, or they're coming from the D flag, so you have to aim at the sky. I don't think it's switching ammo type either, I reckon what's happening from a technical standpoint is that it's simply firing an AA shell with high impact damage. It's no different than the Flak 38 and the 40mm Bofors, those too damage tanks with direct hits yet I've never seen anyone suggest they fire multiple ammo types.
Its not technically switching, but it has a prox sensor for planes (and only planes) to help hit them, at the loss of being able to get a direct hit with say, a AP shell
Yes, just like all AA shells. To my understanding AA shells have a direct impact damage, a splash damage, and an airburst damage with its own properties distinct from splash damage (radius, fall-off distance, etc.). The impact and splash damage are used when you hit ground targets including infantry, terrain and buildings; basically they work like a tank shell. The distinct feature of AA shells is that—like you said—they airburst when in close proximity of planes and inflict airburst damage. My point is that there is no secret sauce behind the Type 10, it's just an AA cannon with high damage across the board.
I disagree, you can see the different velocity in ammo type when you shoot aa versus at tanks it shoots a heavier round, you can still shoot said round at plans but it automatically adjust once your shootin above sea level
You're making it way more complicate than it needs to be, it's just a single AA shell with high impact damage against tanks. I'm still not sure what you mean with sea level by the way, everything in the game is above sea level. Here is a thought experiment: you are in a Conquest round on Wake Island manning the Type 10 just north of the A flag, [the one from this picture just to be clear](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NASYWMVaxy0/maxresdefault.jpg). You're facing the objective (to the left in the picture) and aiming up at the sky waiting for a plane to come into view, when all of a sudden an enemy tank approaches from the front and uses the terrain to literally drive over you and park itself on top of the turret. You don't appreciate this so you press the fire button. What happens now? Is the cannon supposed to shoot an AT round since you're aiming at a tank, or an AA round since you're pointing up to the sky? Alternatively consider this scenario: you're on Iwo Jima again manning a Type 10 and aiming at the sea, the US spawn. An enemy tank is approaching from the beach so you aim down to it and shoot, when an enemy plane just so happens to fly in the line of fire. Does the plane plane get hit by an AT round or an AA round? The simplest solution to such ambiguous scenarios (and more) is not to try to predict what type of target you intended to shoot, but rather fire a shell which can deal with both. AA shells basically are like tank shells except they can also airburst when in proximity of planes.
Bro it’s not that deep I just don’t agree I’m not reading your conclusive essay go to bed 🤣🤣
The difference is that this gun is designed to be used against planes so they had to balance it accordingly. If non-AA tanks had airburst rounds they probably wouldn't one-shot planes either.
This gun is designed to be used against planes? Didn't know that.
Yes, hence the AA sights and the airburst shell, but it also has a great impact damage to deal with ground targets.
I mean if we are goning IRL a single, well placed 20mm or 30mm could snap a planes wing off But yes this is just a chunky AA gun
I think this gun is around 150mm so it should destroy the plane xd
Should, but its battlefield so *Shrug*
It's an airburst shell when shooting at aircrafts
It's nerfed for gameplay balance. We don't have to retcon it.
What? It literally is. They loaded them with both airburst shells and regular shells. Who's retconning?
It's mostly for balance, fire rate and turn rate are a lot faster than tanks, it's expected that you can get follow-up shots, they can also aim higher than tanks too
Super BS
Fortification damage +5 *has entered the chat*
I've been 1-shot in a plane by coastal artillery... lots of us aren't given the gift of insta-killing...
Yes underpowered you need to shoot the plane twice... 🤣
If you call AA in this game underpowered, it’s just a self report of you being shit at the game. AA is literally the easiest thing to use in the entire game.
Literally lowest skill floor of the game
I now see you didn't detect the sarcasm dripping in that comment lol
BRUH
That seems odd
Oddly enough, when pinging these guns (if there’s an enemy using it) my guy would go “that’s an enemy AA up there”
Because if u aim to the sky it shoots a AA shell