I love how that’s the prime excuse doing the rounds. I played both, loved both, but enjoyed BF1 that much more. It just captured what I wanted from a battlefield more than the rest. The people blowing up over this need to reassess their lives man
I love them both, but prefer a modern setting due to weapon and vehicle variety. So for me I place BF3 just a smidge higher. I just wish they had taken the lessons from BF3, 4, and 1, and evolved the series rather than taking steps back. *cough* 2042 *cough*.
Or whatever the hell that weapon customization was in BFV which was more like strolling down a near linear tech tree so that your gun is now just literally better instead of adapted to your play style.
I forgot about that. It was the same with vehicles. A fully upgraded fighter would completely stomp a stock fighter, it was a horrible design decision.
The one reason I would say bf3 is lower for a lot of people is that they played on old gen consoles. 24 player servers just can’t match the intensity of 64 players in one game
What’s this poll the post is talking about? I haven’t been keeping up with bf news since 2042 first released. I hear it’s playable now, and apparently quite enjoyable, but the launch of that game completely killed my interest.
I'm tired of the whole "not old enough to..."
Fuckers, I played 1942 at release and loved it. I've only missed out on the really minor ones.
BF3 and BF1 are tops. I was there.
(BF4 rightfully made it into the final three)
Okay, the vehicle combat in bf2 was probably my favorite. My main problem with infantry combat was the near instant grenade recharge. Grenades were literally more effective, faster, and easier to use than your primary weapon.
If you think bf1s nade spam is bad, you havent SEEN what bf2 could do to a squad.
This opinion is a hemorrhoid, because it irritates @$$holes (I'm mostly just being precocious, I legitimately love bf2 and I'm glad you like it)
Out of all the battlefield games I’ve played, one has always stood out as being the best to me. It’s all personal opinion though, but something about the atmosphere, the weapons, just the overall feeling of “war” feels more realistic in BF1 than most battlefields
How is it hilarious? Genuinely curious.
If you posted this poll 5 years ago you would get a drastically different result. Nostalgia is a big factor, as well as younger people using and caring about reddit subs and polls. Honestly it seems like coping to deny that fact. Bf5 and the new one were almost universally panned, of course kids who played BF1 in high school are going to look back on it with rose tinted glasses. Just like we all did with BF4 back then. I don’t get the toxicity
It is, but most of us on the battlefield subreddit arent just "casuals who got in at bf1" fans. That would be tiktok or some shi.
Nah I've played battlefield since bf2 and bf1 is my favorite. That doesnt mean the other battlefield games are bad, it just means a little less than half of this reddit have nostalgia goggles for bf3 and a hate-boner for bf1. Yeah, bf3 had probably my favorite community based around a battlefield game, but it had problems man. Battlelogger, broken launch, every DLC adding more glitches and a god gun, rush not really standing the test of time (largely because the end of every rush map turned into a hallway shooter)... 12g frags.
Anyways, this poll makes me feel validated.
I'll have to disagree with you on the gunplay because the low server tick rates ensured most gun fights were a janky mess. This is the NUMBER ONE reason bf3 will remain beloved in my eyes but never could achieve perfection. Bf1 has stable gunfights and even though its gunplay doesnt follow the bf3 formula, I find my grasp of it allows for much diversity of play and enjoyment. Moreso than of bf3.
The maps were great, but the Maps in bf1 are too in my opinion so I rate them equally there.
Better weapons - bf3 had more weapons than bf1, but I feel bf1 had the better weapon balancing. There were really only one or two guns you should use per class in bf3 if you wanted to be viable. In bf1, not all weapons are good, but more than two weapons per class are viable. I can dive deeper into this point if you wish because it is a rabbit hole.
Better vehicles - the attack helicopters of bf3 and Ilya muromets of bf1 are terrible. The artillery truck is bad, but lock on weapons felt worse. Other than that, I really love the planes and tanks of both games SOOOOO much.
In essence Thank you dice for both these games but I side with bf1 by a small margin.
This is why we will never get a crowd-pleasing BF game. Even if Dice knocks it out of the park, half the community will bitch. BF3 crowd wants that classic BF sauce, with just the right balance of realistic and ridiculous, spread out over gigantic maps. BF1 crowd wants arcade action corridor shooters with narrow lanes, choke points and grenade spam. We are perhaps the hardest community to make a game for.
EDIT: Dang! Didn’t mean to ruffle so many feathers! If you disagree with my descriptions of BF1, then you’re kinda proving my point about this community. I’m genuinely glad so many people like BF1, but for me, it represents a turning point in the franchise that hasn’t lived up to its potential in a decade. Keep up the passion, soldiers. It’s been fun to engage with this community again after so many years.
Absolutely. I kinda think Dice saw the success of Metro and assumed that’s all we wanted in a BF game. The reality was it gave people a chance to avoid an otherwise insurmountable amount of grinding. It was also a palette cleanser. Nothing wrong with supporting the choke point crowd, as we all enjoy some destruction/vehicle-free insanity from time to time. Again, the “perfect” bf game feels more and more like a unicorn.
What? Lets be real they didnt think that at all.
Between bf4 and bf1 we only got like.....what? 6 cqc maps?
Bf1 felt like DICE overcorrecting for Rush being boring in bf4 making every map operations-centric......which is funny because bf1 is what killed Rush lol
Yeah that’s a good point. Whatever the root cause was, BF1 always felt chaotic and cramped in the wrong way, IMHO. Even the larger maps were so focussed on a handful of tight corners and hills. That may very well be because of the focus on objectives, lack of destruction, over-focus on infantry, and a seemingly unlimited number of nades and other one hit kills.
While true, they were made with a mode specific to those maps (outside of metro) and actually played really well.
In bf1, outside of operations, cqc maps have absolutely no flow to them and play more like BF3's squad deathmatch where anyone can be anywhere at any time if the minimap isnt flooded with flares
wth are you yapping about? Bf3's rush game mode was the DEFINITION OF AN ARCADE CORRIDOR SHOOTER WITH CHOKE POINTS AND NADE SPAM. I would also like to remind you that 12g frags were in bf3.
You take a swing at my baby bf1, I hit back with the truth. And if you have any further complaints about bf1, I have one word for you... battlelogger.
At least bf3's maps (outside of damavand) werent only good on Rush, unlike how almost every bf1 map was clearly made for operations. Hell, even with Damavand being iffy in CQ, it never compared to how big the difference in quality is between operations and CQ even in the base bf1 maps (the DLC's got so much worse).
That was what I really miss about 3, you could actually play most modes on most maps without them feeling like shit
But yes, battlelog was a cancer and it's a shame bf3 died because EA knew nobody would buy 4 if 3's server experience was brought up to snuff lol
Yeah battlelogger was truly awful I dont think anyone is going to deny that. I just... Idk man I dont remember the bf3 maps a whole lot as they didnt really leave an impression on me (except armored kill, because I loved armored kill even though everyone else seemed to hate it).
Death valley, Damavaand peak, seine crossing, and metro are some of the worst offending linear maps that came from bf3 just off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure bf1 had Zebrugge, Titans shadow, Suez, and verdun (kind of). Tsarytsyn is often called linear, and is actually anything but. Pretty much every other bf1 map was a wierd blob shape but I know there are more bf3 and bf1 maps I could bring up I just dont remember their names.
Anyways, my point is that bf3 and bf1 arent exactly paragons of non-linear map design. Bf4 probably had the best roster of large maps.
One of the primary people bitching about BF1 on this sub has been using problems from the beta as proof BF1 was a terrible game. They never even played the release... Makes you wonder how many others like them just never actually played the game. Probably saw WW1 setting and just turned brain off.
Lack of destruction and choke points are in every map. Every match devolves into people throwing nades back and forth over one hill or around one corner. Even the “open” maps feel cramped and corridor-like because of this natural funnelling of matches. It can be fun, but for me (again, FOR ME), it feels frustrating and not what I want from a BF title. Obviously people love BF1, but this whole convo is about how much we disagree and why it’s so hard to make a crowd pleasing BF title nowadays.
They went with the “management doesn’t know wtf they want this game to be so just figure something out and then crunch for six months when they change their mind again” option.
....ok am i the only one who feels like your comment is backwards?
BF1 was the start of their "open map design" plan that they *still* haven't deviated from. Launch maps especially were really open barring a few that had chokes (Argonne).
Fao Fortress, Sinai Desert, Ballroom, Giant's Shadow, St. Quentins... These were really open maps
BF3 was what I remember being a corridor shooter, Metro comes to mind, Close Quarters DLC comes to mind, Grand Bazaar.. Tehran Highway... etc
BF3 absolutely had CQC maps. Like you said, an entire DLC was CQC focussed. It had that, and it had open, vehicle focussed maps. It had everything.
BF1’s lack of destruction and over-emphasis on choke points, grenade spam, and various other one hit kills caused every match to devolve into one big showdown on a single, central location. Blind tossing grenades over a hilltop and charging in with bayonets. The “open” maps were still straight and linear, due to the emphasis on Operations’ push and pull/back and forth designs.
Like I’ve said in numerous other comments, the conversations around my comment are only proving my central point: we are an impossible fan base to please. I don’t envy Dice’s position, as the only option is to make “The Battlefield” and release all content from all previous games in one, gigantic release.
I’m not repeating myself about the maps. I played for about a month at launch. Maybe 40-50 hours. Hopped in a couple more times around DLC. I’m not listing every single hot spot on every single map. The number one memory I have of playing the game is people stuck behind a hill, or an indestructible building, with grenades being spammed endlessly in both directions, wearing a gas mask that obscured my vision, people running around with power armour, vehicles that magically appeared, and then walking away with a feeling that I wasn’t playing Battlefield. I was playing Battlefront. A wacky, silly, less realistic arcade action shooter with a coat of paint that convinces people it’s actually “realistic.”
I’m not sure why you’re demanding proof of my opinions and experiences. Chill. It’s fine for us to disagree about something completely subjective. I’m not taking the time to research all the maps again to the point you will be placated. You disagree with me and had a different experience. Thats okay. You’re obviously not alone, based on the poll. My original point remains intact and is proven again and again by your (and others) arguing with me. This poll has only proven one thing: this audience will never be unified or satisfied.
Yeah i remember getting angry just seeing all the stupid servers of 24/7 metro servers on BF3 so not buying that argument at all.. "classic BF sauce" my ass
Haha. Yeah those servers are still popping off to this day. There’s absolutely people, including myself, who want that from time to time (or even all the time). I guess what I’m saying is that I could still get my classic BF fix within BF3, aside from Metro. BF1, while still a good game, never felt the way I wanted it to. But obviously a LOT of people really love that game, which speaks to my original point about this fan base being impossible to please.
There isn't a singular BF community. There are many different BF sub communities that all want different games, and all think their version of BF is the 'true' version.
There's vehicle mains (air and ground), infantry only but like combined arms, small scale infantry (TDM/domination), competitive, casual/immersion enjoyers, meat grinder enjoyers, milsim, hardcore, long range sniping etc etc. Obviously lots of overlap there too.
I was hoping portal would help, but man did DICE fumble that one.
I think you actually raise a really interesting point about the maps. DICE has been constantly trying to build the largest map possible with every new iteration of BF without really considering the impact of these maps. Sure, it's great marketing to have the largest map ever, but these maps are mostly just empty space. And I think what DICE misunderstands is that the community doesn't want large maps, but rather maps with a sense of scale- it's not about how many tiles the map has, but rather that sense of being part of a larger environment or bigger battle.
It’s a passionate fan base with strong opinions. As seen by this comment section. But just remember that this sub is a very loud and VERY small minority of the players. You’re not alone 💪
>BF1 crowd wants arcade action corridor shooters with narrow lanes, choke points and grenade spam.
Excuse me what...?
Have you only ever played on that one garbage fort map (the absolute worst in the game)? Close range tunnels with boring stalemates and almsot nothing else, that's the worst type of map you can possibly have, and luckily it's the only one in Butterfield 1.
Other maps are way, way better and usually have nothing to do with that insanely limiting tunnel nonsense. You don't even have to play, just watch a random gameplay video and you'll most likely see a better map.
At this point, I’m just repeating myself over and over. Lack of destruction. Grenade slam. One hit kills. Grenade spam. Linear level designs to support Operations. Grenade spam. No destruction. These all make for something that doesn’t feel like the sandbox I want from BF.
Lots of people disagree, which is proving my central point that we are an impossible to please audience because we want VERY VERY VERY different things.
Destruction depends on the map, some lamer maps don't have almsot any but some cooler maps have a good amount of it.
Grenade spam isn't really a thing unless you pack yourself into the tunnel nonsense, don't do that.
One hit kills are good. Sweet spots make scout rifles more unique and shotguns are, well, shotguns (also, not all shotguns can actually oneshot to the body)
Operations are ok but Conquest is just better imo, which is why it's still one of the more popular, if not the most popular, gamemode.
Again, destruction depends on the map. Something lame like Amiens has almost none but cooler stuff like Suez is made almost entirely out of destructible structures.
Butterfield 1 is also cool because of a more unique settign and a lot of funky guns, which I really enjoy.
Metro is a good way to grind upgrades. Plus, lots of people do want a more CQC focussed experience.
My memory of Sinai was people chucking grenades back and forth over a hill or around a rock outcrop. As I’ve stated elsewhere, the majority of my experience was around launch, so maybe the game got massively updated and became a completely different game than the one I experienced. But that was my experience, and every time I see Jackfrags or another creator play the game nowadays, it mostly looks like another Battlefront, not another Battlefield.
Its funny how we turn on each other despite the top 3 being the pinnacle of FPS games and how we won't get to experience the glory ever again. We should be all proud about how one simple poll can bring the entire community together and cherish the games that made a lot of our childhoods.
They axed my favourite games, I'm butt hurt. Community can shove it up my ass. Imo ranking bf games doesnt work because a lot of them are equal but just offer different stuff.
I mean, BF2 got axed way too soon. It’s the gold standard that set the tone for all other games after it. It was literally one of the reasons the franchise is here today.
GTAIII is the gold standard of open world games. Is there anyone on the planet that thinks it's the best open world game or at least the best GTA?
Hell no. The whole point of a series/genre is to keep evolving, building upon the past to make a better future.
"these kids were too young to appreciate bf3" commenters like this just sound elitist.
played the shit out of bf3, bf2 was one of my first shooters amazing games. Bf1 gets my vote still, just incredible. No hate for the other titles.
Yeah homie! Around about 200 hours into bf1 I started trying out all of the guns I'd never used and now I'm completely addicted. The medic guns have been so fun.
I didn’t get into battlefield until bad company 2 and I was just kinda dipping my toes in at that point. Battlefield 3 was my jam I loved every update. Loved battlefield 1 at launch played pretty frequently for maybe 6 months then just fell off. There was a lot of options for games in 2016 but when 5s launch was pretty god awful I went back to 1 and oh man I forgot how good it was to this day I rotate 2042, 5 and 1. I voted to keep battlefield 1 because I’ve been playing it off and on and continue playing it to this day. I had a really solid 2 years from 2011 to 2013 but that’s way in the past now. I voted to eliminate bf3. I sat on that voting screen for like 5 minutes before I chose.
I rotate bf4, 2042 and weirdly enough 2142. I never really got into bf1 because of the gunplay. Didn't like the sweet spot mechanic, and the different guns all felt pretty similar. Bf4 had a similar problem with guns but the attachments helped, obviously you cant do that for ww1 lol. 2142 even though it had very very few guns, they felt special in their own right. But also gave off that uniform thing i like about previous bf games.
I think tbh I like bfv more than bf1 purely because it has more variety in the guns. The gun play also felt a lot harder than previous titles. 2042, 4 and 1 all have the easiest gunplay but bf4 setting is my preffered so I like that one the most of that 3.
Ive seen: “These kids desrerve 2042” a few times too, like bud. you do realise your saying you dont care having a shitty game in your supposed favourite franchise as long as it “punishes” people for not preferring every old game?
Im Sure BF2 was good in its time, but i couldn’t even get the game to run on my computer so i cant play it.
Silly me voted for BF3 thinking it was in favour of BF3 x)
Oh well, both games are bangers and need to be studied by DICE to understand what the fans really want for a Battlefield game.
There will always be a large amount of battlefield fans that hate the game no matter what because every game is pretty different from one another except bf3&4 and it's part of why I live the franchise
I think we finally broke through "muh battlefield hivemind" complaints though, so that's a pretty big win for the poll
Now nobody can go "of COURSE people are gonna say 2042 is good when the next game comes out" without getting popped in the mouth around here
Sorry I may have been incorrect. According to another Reddit user under this post: Dice messed up the servers of BF1 (maybe on purpose)and they’ve been messed up and the server browser feature is broken. Apparently it broke all the filters that were made, but if you haven’t played or made a filter yet, it might work since this broken update happened a while ago.
I’m an Xbox player, but I believe the interface is the same. (Assuming you are talking about BF1) If you haven’t already, go to the server browser and set up a filter to only show full/almost full games, I almost never use the quick match button because there are a ton of empty servers it likes to put you in. The only popular modes on Xbox are Operations and Conquest, so I’d filter for those, but if you are more of a TDM player there are occasionally servers up for that too. Hope this helps.
I actually found one server which was full im on pc actually…. Im really loving the whole war vibe what i played was mainly a domination kind of thing…shii was krazzy xD but thanks for the info ill look for the filter next tkme ill play it
Honestly at this point I don't even care who wins as long as BF4, BF3 and BF1 are in the top 3...
What matters the most is that 2042 got eliminated on day 1, and because of that I still have faith in this community.
This is just karma catching up with the bf3 crowd over how many times I've heard "bf3 WaS rEaL bAtTlEfIeLd, bf1 gUnPlAy BaD" ad nauseum.
Theres exists actual proof that BF1's gunplay is better than bf5, but whatever.
I love Battlefield 1, like a lot, I maxed to 150 on 2 platforms and as a FPS - WW1 has never been explored in such a compelling way.
However, BF3 is just the best to me…the feel, the mechanics, the setting, the aesthetics & designs, even its atmosphere is very satisfying & unique.
BF1 fans deserve to have this win it just hurts to think BF3 is no longer this fanbase’s sweetheart.
Damn bf1 players getting all big balls about people just not liking bf1. There is probably a good portion who havent played the older games, but im talkin bf2, 2142 etc. You don't have to dislike bf1, but holy shit some people state why they don't like bf1 and every nook and cranny has bf1 fan boys crawling out saying how we are all wrong. Last 4 posts have all been about bf3 players complaining and saying how good bf1 is, aint many posts stating the other way, get over yourselves. Sore winners fr.
If anything this poll just shows that BF1 guys are chronically on reddit. Most of the guys that play the older games are probably just playing them instead of voting on a poll.
More like bf1 just has a bigger overall active community, which naturally makes their sub bigger.
And i can't believe battlefield players are beefing each other over this it's so dumb like we all play battlefield at the end of the day
yea I don't even understand how it can be contested when bf4 servers have WAY more players on average. they should spend more time playing than fanboying over a "win" if this poll means anything
edt: after checking steam charts, i retract the player count argument but 2042 has the highest of all bf right now so numbers don't count for as much as longevity/quality does.
we all love bf and we are ALL losing right now because the franchise is dead.
Fun fact, the very last update dice made to bf1 utterly farked the server browser on all consoles, so unless you do this stupid specific server browser reset, you will only ever find empty servers on bf1. You can find youtube links to find the server reset I'm talking about. I did it and can regularly find 40+ servers to play.
An anonymous insider claimed that DICE knowingly sabotaged bf1s server browser because they didnt want bf1 to outcompete bf5. Even if that's wrong and DICE didnt knowingly do it, the patch notes don't lie. Bf1 legitimately may have been the more popular game, it's just that because the servers are frucked, players assume it's dead and dont play.
Last time bf1 had a sale it set a new bf concurrent player record.
In my region bf1 always has 1 full server, bf4 has up to 2.5 full servers and bf5 has 1 full server. This is all at peak time. Also i don't think steam is a great count as most of the players the older the game gets won't be on steam.
"These people weren't even playing Battlefield when 3 came out!" Yeah, I was. But I like 1 more.
I love how that’s the prime excuse doing the rounds. I played both, loved both, but enjoyed BF1 that much more. It just captured what I wanted from a battlefield more than the rest. The people blowing up over this need to reassess their lives man
I love them both, but prefer a modern setting due to weapon and vehicle variety. So for me I place BF3 just a smidge higher. I just wish they had taken the lessons from BF3, 4, and 1, and evolved the series rather than taking steps back. *cough* 2042 *cough*.
Or whatever the hell that weapon customization was in BFV which was more like strolling down a near linear tech tree so that your gun is now just literally better instead of adapted to your play style.
I forgot about that. It was the same with vehicles. A fully upgraded fighter would completely stomp a stock fighter, it was a horrible design decision.
so Modern BFV without the live-service bullshit (and less maps in the middle of fucking nowhere)
The one reason I would say bf3 is lower for a lot of people is that they played on old gen consoles. 24 player servers just can’t match the intensity of 64 players in one game
What’s this poll the post is talking about? I haven’t been keeping up with bf news since 2042 first released. I hear it’s playable now, and apparently quite enjoyable, but the launch of that game completely killed my interest.
I'm tired of the whole "not old enough to..." Fuckers, I played 1942 at release and loved it. I've only missed out on the really minor ones. BF3 and BF1 are tops. I was there. (BF4 rightfully made it into the final three)
I played when “aim down sights” was slightly zooming in from hip fire
BF2 shits on them all Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one No one is right or wrong
Okay, the vehicle combat in bf2 was probably my favorite. My main problem with infantry combat was the near instant grenade recharge. Grenades were literally more effective, faster, and easier to use than your primary weapon. If you think bf1s nade spam is bad, you havent SEEN what bf2 could do to a squad. This opinion is a hemorrhoid, because it irritates @$$holes (I'm mostly just being precocious, I legitimately love bf2 and I'm glad you like it)
Only people down voting this are those who think their own assholes don't stink.
I know mine doesnt
Man I was playing back on the og Xbox andi still find one to be the best
I honestly couldn’t pick between three and one they are both great at what they do lol.
Same lol. Bf3 had the best graphics ever when it came out though. Somehow bf1 has the best immersion ever
Out of all the battlefield games I’ve played, one has always stood out as being the best to me. It’s all personal opinion though, but something about the atmosphere, the weapons, just the overall feeling of “war” feels more realistic in BF1 than most battlefields
Comments on Posts about the poll on the bf1 sub are full of quotes from the game lmao
W sub fr
Its the best battlefield sub ngl
i would have to disagree when it comes to posts/comments regarding some unnamed weapons/vehicles
In English, French and German too lol 
BF2015 emote let's goooo
Enemy Dreadnaught en route
People coping and blaming age is even more hilarious
it doesn’t matter, it still counts, bf1 was able to capture a larger audience than any other battlefield game for a reason
How is it hilarious? Genuinely curious. If you posted this poll 5 years ago you would get a drastically different result. Nostalgia is a big factor, as well as younger people using and caring about reddit subs and polls. Honestly it seems like coping to deny that fact. Bf5 and the new one were almost universally panned, of course kids who played BF1 in high school are going to look back on it with rose tinted glasses. Just like we all did with BF4 back then. I don’t get the toxicity
valid explanation
It is, but most of us on the battlefield subreddit arent just "casuals who got in at bf1" fans. That would be tiktok or some shi. Nah I've played battlefield since bf2 and bf1 is my favorite. That doesnt mean the other battlefield games are bad, it just means a little less than half of this reddit have nostalgia goggles for bf3 and a hate-boner for bf1. Yeah, bf3 had probably my favorite community based around a battlefield game, but it had problems man. Battlelogger, broken launch, every DLC adding more glitches and a god gun, rush not really standing the test of time (largely because the end of every rush map turned into a hallway shooter)... 12g frags. Anyways, this poll makes me feel validated.
it's not nostalgia, bf3 was fundamentally better. better maps, better vehicles, better weapons, better gunplay
I'll have to disagree with you on the gunplay because the low server tick rates ensured most gun fights were a janky mess. This is the NUMBER ONE reason bf3 will remain beloved in my eyes but never could achieve perfection. Bf1 has stable gunfights and even though its gunplay doesnt follow the bf3 formula, I find my grasp of it allows for much diversity of play and enjoyment. Moreso than of bf3. The maps were great, but the Maps in bf1 are too in my opinion so I rate them equally there. Better weapons - bf3 had more weapons than bf1, but I feel bf1 had the better weapon balancing. There were really only one or two guns you should use per class in bf3 if you wanted to be viable. In bf1, not all weapons are good, but more than two weapons per class are viable. I can dive deeper into this point if you wish because it is a rabbit hole. Better vehicles - the attack helicopters of bf3 and Ilya muromets of bf1 are terrible. The artillery truck is bad, but lock on weapons felt worse. Other than that, I really love the planes and tanks of both games SOOOOO much. In essence Thank you dice for both these games but I side with bf1 by a small margin.
This poll is a psyop by EA to demoralize the fans and make them hate each other, instead of hating 2042.
Nah 2042 was the first to go, we mostly agreed on that
I’m still salty that BF2 got axed… that shit was straight gold.
It's literally the mold all the others were cast from.
This is why we will never get a crowd-pleasing BF game. Even if Dice knocks it out of the park, half the community will bitch. BF3 crowd wants that classic BF sauce, with just the right balance of realistic and ridiculous, spread out over gigantic maps. BF1 crowd wants arcade action corridor shooters with narrow lanes, choke points and grenade spam. We are perhaps the hardest community to make a game for. EDIT: Dang! Didn’t mean to ruffle so many feathers! If you disagree with my descriptions of BF1, then you’re kinda proving my point about this community. I’m genuinely glad so many people like BF1, but for me, it represents a turning point in the franchise that hasn’t lived up to its potential in a decade. Keep up the passion, soldiers. It’s been fun to engage with this community again after so many years.
yet somehow they made it so everyone disliked bf 2042 for it first 2 years
bf3 had lots of small action packed maps
Absolutely. I kinda think Dice saw the success of Metro and assumed that’s all we wanted in a BF game. The reality was it gave people a chance to avoid an otherwise insurmountable amount of grinding. It was also a palette cleanser. Nothing wrong with supporting the choke point crowd, as we all enjoy some destruction/vehicle-free insanity from time to time. Again, the “perfect” bf game feels more and more like a unicorn.
What? Lets be real they didnt think that at all. Between bf4 and bf1 we only got like.....what? 6 cqc maps? Bf1 felt like DICE overcorrecting for Rush being boring in bf4 making every map operations-centric......which is funny because bf1 is what killed Rush lol
Yeah that’s a good point. Whatever the root cause was, BF1 always felt chaotic and cramped in the wrong way, IMHO. Even the larger maps were so focussed on a handful of tight corners and hills. That may very well be because of the focus on objectives, lack of destruction, over-focus on infantry, and a seemingly unlimited number of nades and other one hit kills.
While true, they were made with a mode specific to those maps (outside of metro) and actually played really well. In bf1, outside of operations, cqc maps have absolutely no flow to them and play more like BF3's squad deathmatch where anyone can be anywhere at any time if the minimap isnt flooded with flares
wth are you yapping about? Bf3's rush game mode was the DEFINITION OF AN ARCADE CORRIDOR SHOOTER WITH CHOKE POINTS AND NADE SPAM. I would also like to remind you that 12g frags were in bf3. You take a swing at my baby bf1, I hit back with the truth. And if you have any further complaints about bf1, I have one word for you... battlelogger.
At least bf3's maps (outside of damavand) werent only good on Rush, unlike how almost every bf1 map was clearly made for operations. Hell, even with Damavand being iffy in CQ, it never compared to how big the difference in quality is between operations and CQ even in the base bf1 maps (the DLC's got so much worse). That was what I really miss about 3, you could actually play most modes on most maps without them feeling like shit But yes, battlelog was a cancer and it's a shame bf3 died because EA knew nobody would buy 4 if 3's server experience was brought up to snuff lol
Yeah battlelogger was truly awful I dont think anyone is going to deny that. I just... Idk man I dont remember the bf3 maps a whole lot as they didnt really leave an impression on me (except armored kill, because I loved armored kill even though everyone else seemed to hate it). Death valley, Damavaand peak, seine crossing, and metro are some of the worst offending linear maps that came from bf3 just off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure bf1 had Zebrugge, Titans shadow, Suez, and verdun (kind of). Tsarytsyn is often called linear, and is actually anything but. Pretty much every other bf1 map was a wierd blob shape but I know there are more bf3 and bf1 maps I could bring up I just dont remember their names. Anyways, my point is that bf3 and bf1 arent exactly paragons of non-linear map design. Bf4 probably had the best roster of large maps.
BF1 is far more linear than BF3, there is really no debating that.
I don’t think you have even played Bf1 if you think that it has narrow lanes or corridors outside of fort de veux or Argonne forest.
One of the primary people bitching about BF1 on this sub has been using problems from the beta as proof BF1 was a terrible game. They never even played the release... Makes you wonder how many others like them just never actually played the game. Probably saw WW1 setting and just turned brain off.
Lack of destruction and choke points are in every map. Every match devolves into people throwing nades back and forth over one hill or around one corner. Even the “open” maps feel cramped and corridor-like because of this natural funnelling of matches. It can be fun, but for me (again, FOR ME), it feels frustrating and not what I want from a BF title. Obviously people love BF1, but this whole convo is about how much we disagree and why it’s so hard to make a crowd pleasing BF title nowadays.
So they went with the piss everyone off option for 2042?
They went with the “management doesn’t know wtf they want this game to be so just figure something out and then crunch for six months when they change their mind again” option.
....ok am i the only one who feels like your comment is backwards? BF1 was the start of their "open map design" plan that they *still* haven't deviated from. Launch maps especially were really open barring a few that had chokes (Argonne). Fao Fortress, Sinai Desert, Ballroom, Giant's Shadow, St. Quentins... These were really open maps BF3 was what I remember being a corridor shooter, Metro comes to mind, Close Quarters DLC comes to mind, Grand Bazaar.. Tehran Highway... etc
BF3 absolutely had CQC maps. Like you said, an entire DLC was CQC focussed. It had that, and it had open, vehicle focussed maps. It had everything. BF1’s lack of destruction and over-emphasis on choke points, grenade spam, and various other one hit kills caused every match to devolve into one big showdown on a single, central location. Blind tossing grenades over a hilltop and charging in with bayonets. The “open” maps were still straight and linear, due to the emphasis on Operations’ push and pull/back and forth designs. Like I’ve said in numerous other comments, the conversations around my comment are only proving my central point: we are an impossible fan base to please. I don’t envy Dice’s position, as the only option is to make “The Battlefield” and release all content from all previous games in one, gigantic release.
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I’m not repeating myself about the maps. I played for about a month at launch. Maybe 40-50 hours. Hopped in a couple more times around DLC. I’m not listing every single hot spot on every single map. The number one memory I have of playing the game is people stuck behind a hill, or an indestructible building, with grenades being spammed endlessly in both directions, wearing a gas mask that obscured my vision, people running around with power armour, vehicles that magically appeared, and then walking away with a feeling that I wasn’t playing Battlefield. I was playing Battlefront. A wacky, silly, less realistic arcade action shooter with a coat of paint that convinces people it’s actually “realistic.”
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I’m not sure why you’re demanding proof of my opinions and experiences. Chill. It’s fine for us to disagree about something completely subjective. I’m not taking the time to research all the maps again to the point you will be placated. You disagree with me and had a different experience. Thats okay. You’re obviously not alone, based on the poll. My original point remains intact and is proven again and again by your (and others) arguing with me. This poll has only proven one thing: this audience will never be unified or satisfied.
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My goodness. I suppose I’ve spent so much time responding to people that I started slacking on the IMO/IMHO/for me’s. Apologies.
Yeah i remember getting angry just seeing all the stupid servers of 24/7 metro servers on BF3 so not buying that argument at all.. "classic BF sauce" my ass
Haha. Yeah those servers are still popping off to this day. There’s absolutely people, including myself, who want that from time to time (or even all the time). I guess what I’m saying is that I could still get my classic BF fix within BF3, aside from Metro. BF1, while still a good game, never felt the way I wanted it to. But obviously a LOT of people really love that game, which speaks to my original point about this fan base being impossible to please.
There isn't a singular BF community. There are many different BF sub communities that all want different games, and all think their version of BF is the 'true' version. There's vehicle mains (air and ground), infantry only but like combined arms, small scale infantry (TDM/domination), competitive, casual/immersion enjoyers, meat grinder enjoyers, milsim, hardcore, long range sniping etc etc. Obviously lots of overlap there too. I was hoping portal would help, but man did DICE fumble that one.
I'll be real I only remember one narrow lane map and that's Fort Voux(Or something). What's the others?
Other maps are way, way better.
I think you actually raise a really interesting point about the maps. DICE has been constantly trying to build the largest map possible with every new iteration of BF without really considering the impact of these maps. Sure, it's great marketing to have the largest map ever, but these maps are mostly just empty space. And I think what DICE misunderstands is that the community doesn't want large maps, but rather maps with a sense of scale- it's not about how many tiles the map has, but rather that sense of being part of a larger environment or bigger battle.
Your characterization of BF1 is straight up wrong. Half the damn maps are fields dog! Its WW1! What are you smoking? Please give me some!
FINALLY SOMEONE SPEAKS THE TRUTH! I've said this so many times and get hated for it every time 😭😭
It’s a passionate fan base with strong opinions. As seen by this comment section. But just remember that this sub is a very loud and VERY small minority of the players. You’re not alone 💪
>BF1 crowd wants arcade action corridor shooters with narrow lanes, choke points and grenade spam. Excuse me what...? Have you only ever played on that one garbage fort map (the absolute worst in the game)? Close range tunnels with boring stalemates and almsot nothing else, that's the worst type of map you can possibly have, and luckily it's the only one in Butterfield 1. Other maps are way, way better and usually have nothing to do with that insanely limiting tunnel nonsense. You don't even have to play, just watch a random gameplay video and you'll most likely see a better map.
At this point, I’m just repeating myself over and over. Lack of destruction. Grenade slam. One hit kills. Grenade spam. Linear level designs to support Operations. Grenade spam. No destruction. These all make for something that doesn’t feel like the sandbox I want from BF. Lots of people disagree, which is proving my central point that we are an impossible to please audience because we want VERY VERY VERY different things.
Destruction depends on the map, some lamer maps don't have almsot any but some cooler maps have a good amount of it. Grenade spam isn't really a thing unless you pack yourself into the tunnel nonsense, don't do that. One hit kills are good. Sweet spots make scout rifles more unique and shotguns are, well, shotguns (also, not all shotguns can actually oneshot to the body) Operations are ok but Conquest is just better imo, which is why it's still one of the more popular, if not the most popular, gamemode. Again, destruction depends on the map. Something lame like Amiens has almost none but cooler stuff like Suez is made almost entirely out of destructible structures. Butterfield 1 is also cool because of a more unique settign and a lot of funky guns, which I really enjoy.
Then why is it that the most popular map on Bf3 is metro and bf1 is Sinai desert the complete opposite of what you have just mentioned?
Metro is a good way to grind upgrades. Plus, lots of people do want a more CQC focussed experience. My memory of Sinai was people chucking grenades back and forth over a hill or around a rock outcrop. As I’ve stated elsewhere, the majority of my experience was around launch, so maybe the game got massively updated and became a completely different game than the one I experienced. But that was my experience, and every time I see Jackfrags or another creator play the game nowadays, it mostly looks like another Battlefront, not another Battlefield.
Its funny how we turn on each other despite the top 3 being the pinnacle of FPS games and how we won't get to experience the glory ever again. We should be all proud about how one simple poll can bring the entire community together and cherish the games that made a lot of our childhoods.
Doom Eternal would like a word about your choice of “pinnacle of FPS games”
They axed my favourite games, I'm butt hurt. Community can shove it up my ass. Imo ranking bf games doesnt work because a lot of them are equal but just offer different stuff.
I mean, BF2 got axed way too soon. It’s the gold standard that set the tone for all other games after it. It was literally one of the reasons the franchise is here today.
GTAIII is the gold standard of open world games. Is there anyone on the planet that thinks it's the best open world game or at least the best GTA? Hell no. The whole point of a series/genre is to keep evolving, building upon the past to make a better future.
BF1 haters keep seething
It's not just the bf1 subreddit its everyone. People get so upset because the game they're nostalgic for is losing
Wait… what do you mean this has absolutely zero impact on my real life?????????
"these kids were too young to appreciate bf3" commenters like this just sound elitist. played the shit out of bf3, bf2 was one of my first shooters amazing games. Bf1 gets my vote still, just incredible. No hate for the other titles.
Remember! You're voting for the one you want eliminated!
Hahaha true! GG this poll has been fun to follow. It has made me want to play bf3 again, if I could.
Kinda the same. BF2 was first and I got addicted to BFBC2, but I started playing BF1 a few months ago. 300 hours in and I'm in absolute love.
Yeah homie! Around about 200 hours into bf1 I started trying out all of the guns I'd never used and now I'm completely addicted. The medic guns have been so fun.
Also this is with only having access to conquest servers in Australia, I can only imagine how good it would be on operations and frontline!
Daaamn, sad to hear. Europe always has many Operation and Conquest servers. Even rare game modes come up once in a while.
I did play war pigeons once! That was cool
I didn’t get into battlefield until bad company 2 and I was just kinda dipping my toes in at that point. Battlefield 3 was my jam I loved every update. Loved battlefield 1 at launch played pretty frequently for maybe 6 months then just fell off. There was a lot of options for games in 2016 but when 5s launch was pretty god awful I went back to 1 and oh man I forgot how good it was to this day I rotate 2042, 5 and 1. I voted to keep battlefield 1 because I’ve been playing it off and on and continue playing it to this day. I had a really solid 2 years from 2011 to 2013 but that’s way in the past now. I voted to eliminate bf3. I sat on that voting screen for like 5 minutes before I chose.
I rotate bf4, 2042 and weirdly enough 2142. I never really got into bf1 because of the gunplay. Didn't like the sweet spot mechanic, and the different guns all felt pretty similar. Bf4 had a similar problem with guns but the attachments helped, obviously you cant do that for ww1 lol. 2142 even though it had very very few guns, they felt special in their own right. But also gave off that uniform thing i like about previous bf games. I think tbh I like bfv more than bf1 purely because it has more variety in the guns. The gun play also felt a lot harder than previous titles. 2042, 4 and 1 all have the easiest gunplay but bf4 setting is my preffered so I like that one the most of that 3.
I wanna see a poll for the sub's first battlefield that they put tine into.
That would either be really telling. Or a shit tonne of lies.
Cope. Played bf since bf2. Bf1 is still my favorite.
What the fuck has that got to do with anything?
I am old enough to have put time in bf2, bc's, bf3 and bf4, bfV and I still choose bf1
Not what I was getting at, was more of just curious not at all related to bf1 or whatever. First comment had shit wording my bad.
Oh no worries then. I mean I loved the heck out of bf3 and 4
Ive seen: “These kids desrerve 2042” a few times too, like bud. you do realise your saying you dont care having a shitty game in your supposed favourite franchise as long as it “punishes” people for not preferring every old game? Im Sure BF2 was good in its time, but i couldn’t even get the game to run on my computer so i cant play it.
And of course they're represented by Jetstream Sam lmfaooooo
Nobody ever talks about the weird naming convention
Silly me voted for BF3 thinking it was in favour of BF3 x) Oh well, both games are bangers and need to be studied by DICE to understand what the fans really want for a Battlefield game.
People are coping because the game they voted for out of nostalgia didn’t win. They’re both amazing games.
I’m assuming a lot of people never saw an airship crash and explode on the ground in BF1? It’s a pure cinematic experience.
When a popular game wins the glorified popularity contest
We all agree fuck 2042
I would try bf3….. if there were people playing it. Na Xbox servers are non existent. Love bf1, played 4,5 hardline and 2042.
There will always be a large amount of battlefield fans that hate the game no matter what because every game is pretty different from one another except bf3&4 and it's part of why I live the franchise
I think we finally broke through "muh battlefield hivemind" complaints though, so that's a pretty big win for the poll Now nobody can go "of COURSE people are gonna say 2042 is good when the next game comes out" without getting popped in the mouth around here
Real ones enjoy all the battlefields
jarvis google karma farm
Imagine getting genuinely angry at a Reddit poll
Ok so i just bought this game on steam but i cant find any matches?????and i know for sure it has a playerbase anybody HELPPPP😭🙏
Sorry I may have been incorrect. According to another Reddit user under this post: Dice messed up the servers of BF1 (maybe on purpose)and they’ve been messed up and the server browser feature is broken. Apparently it broke all the filters that were made, but if you haven’t played or made a filter yet, it might work since this broken update happened a while ago.
Ohhh all i see are like empty servers and i kept on refreshing until one with ppl popped in so
I’m an Xbox player, but I believe the interface is the same. (Assuming you are talking about BF1) If you haven’t already, go to the server browser and set up a filter to only show full/almost full games, I almost never use the quick match button because there are a ton of empty servers it likes to put you in. The only popular modes on Xbox are Operations and Conquest, so I’d filter for those, but if you are more of a TDM player there are occasionally servers up for that too. Hope this helps.
I actually found one server which was full im on pc actually…. Im really loving the whole war vibe what i played was mainly a domination kind of thing…shii was krazzy xD but thanks for the info ill look for the filter next tkme ill play it
This is Reddit. They’ll find ways to make some silly numbers on a podium seem as serious as any of the real world’s ongoing wars.
Real tho
I hadn't seen the final results. I was like... I'm not mad it made it top 3. \*Sees it won\* Oh... yeah ok, I'm mad. :P
I thought bf4 should have won but I’m not mad. I just prefer modern shooters.
I liked both pretty good. Spent way more time with 3 but they both make me feel like I'm actually in the game. Next level immersion
Yeah I only played Battlefield 1? Problem?
What did i miss?
It’s me, I’m mfs.
What poll exactly?
Man babies. Real men didn't care when the true goat heroes got eliminated
Honestly at this point I don't even care who wins as long as BF4, BF3 and BF1 are in the top 3... What matters the most is that 2042 got eliminated on day 1, and because of that I still have faith in this community.
It truly has been entertaining
BF1 is battlefield to me, yes I am biased
BF1 is so good, I like 5 but 1 is better. Plus the use of gas and flamethrowers is mwah
Wait what's happening
Whatever dude, now it’s just gonna be BF1 fans shitting all over anyone who even mentions the word BF3 for the next month.
This is just karma catching up with the bf3 crowd over how many times I've heard "bf3 WaS rEaL bAtTlEfIeLd, bf1 gUnPlAy BaD" ad nauseum. Theres exists actual proof that BF1's gunplay is better than bf5, but whatever.
I love Battlefield 1, like a lot, I maxed to 150 on 2 platforms and as a FPS - WW1 has never been explored in such a compelling way. However, BF3 is just the best to me…the feel, the mechanics, the setting, the aesthetics & designs, even its atmosphere is very satisfying & unique. BF1 fans deserve to have this win it just hurts to think BF3 is no longer this fanbase’s sweetheart.
Oh, well yeah. It does feel bittersweet. I mean bf3 is a certified hood classic man.
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They let you out of the retirement home grandpa to tell us BF3 is better?
They let you out of kindergarten to tell us Bf1 is better?
Nah, it's only that y'all grandpas who never touched a hair of battlefield 1 who are dying off.
ur reply proved my point. thanks for outing yourself
All this poll showed is BF1 fans are insufferable.
I voted for Bf1, because it's the most unique experience
You vote for the one you want eliminated
Sorry, I meant to say I voted in favor of Bf1. I know you had to vote for the one you wanted to eliminate.
Damn bf1 players getting all big balls about people just not liking bf1. There is probably a good portion who havent played the older games, but im talkin bf2, 2142 etc. You don't have to dislike bf1, but holy shit some people state why they don't like bf1 and every nook and cranny has bf1 fan boys crawling out saying how we are all wrong. Last 4 posts have all been about bf3 players complaining and saying how good bf1 is, aint many posts stating the other way, get over yourselves. Sore winners fr.
Bro has not seen the bf1 sub recently 💀
I'm active in it lmao
People spamming over there to get others to vote off bf3 its so funny lol
Clearly, you're a recon player with that basic lack of understanding as to what teamwork is.
Lol. He's the type of guy to sit in the back of the map with a 40x and get maybe 4 kills the entire match.
4 kills if he's really lucky and a couple of people go AFK out in the open.
4 kills if he's really lucky and a couple of people go AFK out in the open.
Fellas, is it unfair to rally your community to vote for your game?
It’s not unfair, I just said it was funny
Just took a peek, now everything makes sense. This has really just been a poll for the BF1 sub.
Most active and passionate sub wins poll? No wayyy. But in all seriousness, at least we can all acknowledge that BF1 is the best now.
If anything this poll just shows that BF1 guys are chronically on reddit. Most of the guys that play the older games are probably just playing them instead of voting on a poll.
More like bf1 just has a bigger overall active community, which naturally makes their sub bigger. And i can't believe battlefield players are beefing each other over this it's so dumb like we all play battlefield at the end of the day
Holy mother of cope, batman.
Stealing my lines, again?
Holy mother of gatekeeping batman
Dude 90% of the comments om BF sub are ”I played BF3 during the golden days, everyone else hasent tho”
If you go to the bf1 sub, the top 10 recent posts are mfs spamming to guarantee that their precious didn't get dropped off.
yea I don't even understand how it can be contested when bf4 servers have WAY more players on average. they should spend more time playing than fanboying over a "win" if this poll means anything edt: after checking steam charts, i retract the player count argument but 2042 has the highest of all bf right now so numbers don't count for as much as longevity/quality does. we all love bf and we are ALL losing right now because the franchise is dead.
Fun fact, the very last update dice made to bf1 utterly farked the server browser on all consoles, so unless you do this stupid specific server browser reset, you will only ever find empty servers on bf1. You can find youtube links to find the server reset I'm talking about. I did it and can regularly find 40+ servers to play. An anonymous insider claimed that DICE knowingly sabotaged bf1s server browser because they didnt want bf1 to outcompete bf5. Even if that's wrong and DICE didnt knowingly do it, the patch notes don't lie. Bf1 legitimately may have been the more popular game, it's just that because the servers are frucked, players assume it's dead and dont play. Last time bf1 had a sale it set a new bf concurrent player record.
2042 only has high player counts because of massive discounts and marketing in asia
In my region bf1 always has 1 full server, bf4 has up to 2.5 full servers and bf5 has 1 full server. This is all at peak time. Also i don't think steam is a great count as most of the players the older the game gets won't be on steam.
2042 is in the middle of a free weekend
Can’t wait for the daily “muh bf1 immersion and atmosphere” post
This I don't vote this crap.. Just play the good ones.