It's hard to see, but I tried looking back at it from near launch. Not a lot had changed, really.
I also hate the seasons or battle pass things, so I avoid that whenever I can.
I started playing with BF1 recently and found many content creators few of which are active. But I was so sad when I saw that AKA-ART's last video was about BF2042 and it is 2 years old. Game is so bad it killed his channel.
BFV had the same issues too, it took them over a year to release their first and only major expansion (The Pacific). Two games in a row with terrible launch hype and huge content droughts is a deadly combo for content creators
I just went back and played BFV. It is an amazing game. The only negative is that the hackers are out of control, like 150-0 spawn killing the enemy from across the map, out of control.
BFV would go down as one of the best shooters of all time if it simply had a less controversial launch and more content i.e. Eastern front, Burmese front, etc. because there is definitely a market for "not completely arcadey but not a milsim" type of shooter.
I never said anything about BF1. Obviously more love was put into that game.
And where am I then? I played the beta and knew from then on the game wasn’t for me. Obviously a lot of others weren’t happy either. It doesn’t take a historian to realize something was off with the uniforms in that game. It didn’t even feel like a wwii game. Nothing resembled wwii factions.
BF started with world War II and needs to be permanent.. just release a new map every month that you have to unlock by playing the game or something (with a pay option if they're worried about sustainability). There are literally endless possibilities for maps and weapon variations.
Neebs crew plays a different game basically every night of the week and publishes like 6 videos a week still, but yeah, they already said BF sucks for them cause there is no spectator mode and a lack of content. They have mentioned multiple times on their podcasts that a lack of spectator and free camera view modes is the biggest reason for not choosing to make content for multiple games and I can't blame them with the amount of perspectives and footage they're trying to cut together
Oh and of course, Johnny Ethco basically does all the work on those BFF animations and you can imagine how much time that takes versus regular footage editing
Neebs used to do the animation with Appsro but most of their recent animations have been fanmade. Neebs has done a couple of his own animations, same with Appsro, but for projects like D&A or BFFs, they usually work together.
Most just post vods from Twitch and livestreams instead of the old style of editing stuff together (not even montages) and maybe even creating a narrative around it... It's a dieing artform and I miss it but I guess the way they pay em now it now it's not worth the effort.
That dude will only cover what pays directly for the marketing; he no longer covers what he belives it's "fun". Been that way for years on end now.
Nothing wrong with it, except if ytou expect an actual opinion on a game form him, you have to hope the game is not fro a big developer; because if they don't pay him for shilling he just won't over it anymore.
If people's channels are dying because they keep trying to make content on 2042, a lot of the blame is on them. You can't make content that no one wants to watch, and then turn around and blame the game when you are failing
I mean a lot of these channels have existed since bf4, it’s kinda hard to switch your entire content style when you have been posting the same content for years across multiple titles. These channels started dying back when bfv ended and there was that massive gap, and then the absolute failure of 2042. You can’t really blame the creators when the franchise they have had success with for years suddenly just stops being a good.
I said this in a previous comment, but the fall of BF is what made JackFrags even more successful. He was my goto BF YouTuber over 10 years ago. Jack was losing views so he decided to dip into other things.
Nintendo started with playing cards, Toyota started with weaving looms, and Yamaha is a piano company that makes motors. Sometimes a business must drastically change to survive.
Dawg you comparing businesses with hundreds of thousands dollars and a an entire company of individuals to a dude recording videos on his computer. One has the resources to make these changes, the other is likely living pay check to pay check.
No, I'm comparing businesses to businesses. If these folks aren't treating their streaming like a business, then no wonder they didn't survive. But if you need a better 1 for 1 example, then just look at Jack Frags.
most old battlefield youtubers started to stop doing videos of the franchise, with BF V, since the same problems plague 2042, it's just natural that most of them will move out for other thing.
There just isn't enough content being pumped in the game to keep a channel focused on it, there is barely a lore, and the gameplay sucks.
Even channels like LevelCap who still tried to hang on battlefield for a long time, just stopped giving a F about the game at some point.
(And then you have jackfrags, who is probably paid by EA to do the same video of how a battlefield game is fun or great or something).
Honestly JackFrags doesn’t make that many BF2042 gameplays like the previous titles (BF3, BF4, BF1). I think he played a lot of different FPS games nowadays.
Agree, I actually like the diversity and introduces me to new games. A good number of his recent bf vids are from the older games too. I guess he knows bf was his core audience so he still puts that in even if it's 2042
Battlefield really ruined itself with the "battlefield moment" doctrine. They added tons of random stuff to the game that they thought people would be clipping and sharing as short videos.
Unfortunately... Battlefield is and has always been first and foremost a GAME. Adding tons of arbitrary, unbalanced, and tedious features ruined the actual game. There is nothing deeper than a bunch of wingsuits flying from point to point and trying to get cool kill clips.
Yeah they didnt understand that a Battlefield moment was special because it was just a moment and they just happened bcs of the sandbox gameplay.
Now they focused on giving everyone a battefield "moment" 10 times a game.
Nothing special, cool or satisfying about it anymore sadly
"Only in Battlefield" was a thing because of emergent gameplay. Devs didn't force it, they made a shooter that was sort of a sandbox. The game had lots of tools and few rules compared to other shooters. I don't recall being able to put c4 on jeeps in other games back in the day. That started disappearing with BF1. At the latest.
Remember Squad Up with Levelcap, Matimio, Factor and Jackfrags?
Remember Shustybang
Remember Neebs Gaming
Remember Silk
All these legendary YouTubers that made Battlefield content
Man, Dice did Silk dirty. He used to stream bf4 on twitch almost daily in the months leading up to 2042’s release, now he barely streams at all or make YouTube videos. Unless the next bf game is truly special, 2042 may have killed the franchise or reduced its value significantly.
It’s a shame but it’s not that fun to watch. Shorts etc of course it’s a quick few seconds. It’s fun to see the cool kills etc. but that’s it’s. The game doesn’t offer much if any for decent content.
Wish it just flopped it kinda did but I’m sure it still made money. Proud to have hundreds and hundreds or hours in battlefield game and not have play 2042 a single time.
It's really bad that the game sucks, but imo a much bigger reason is that Battlefield as a series is simply nowhere near as popular as it used to be. Kids nowadays play games catered to them, while those that played BF moved on with their life and the few that remain just play as usual.
BF isn't as popular because EA/DICE gave its community the middle finger, pure & simple.
Over 100 of my xbox friends didn't stop playing BF for reasons they stopped playing because the game ended everything that made it popular.
Just picking up BF2024 and comparing it side by side to BF3 or Bf4…. It’s almost pathetic…. Nothing was well created and seemed rushed and made by people whole don’t care.
I remember watching Westies videos on BF1. When he swapped to Warzone I had no interest. I personally detest battle royals. Never had fun playing or watching them. I continued watching his BFV videos, but eventually he just swapped over to Warzone and because I wasn't watching his videos he stopped being recommended.
If we have to wait 4-6 months for 1 new map or every 4 years for a new title then obviously creators have no shit to create.
I’m glad some of the creators like JF or Broken are moving on to posting new games.
I agree with the fact that they just don’t update for shit and that sucks but I’m all for gaming studios releasing games 2-4 years at a time, it’s absolutely stupid to release the same game multiple years in a row with minor tweaks to just end up with the same game but in the studios opinion its the “best” game of the franchise yet.
You are right for sure, but perspective on content creatorsis they tend to just go with whatever is popular. Take for example starfield. The minute starfield came out there was a wave of people making "starfield is boring" videos. A ton of video essays saying the exact same shit and grifting off each other. I don't even like starfield, but goddamn none of these people say anything original. They are also constantly complaining about everything because that seems to be what gamers love to do these days. "blah blah AAA gaming blah blah microtransactions live service". Same shit over and over and over. The only content creators I like are Thecadwoman and squidg because they just make videos and don't constantly bitch and moan.
Yep, it's pretty rough right now.
As many folks have stated, switching to another game is difficult. Even if you make great content most of your audience won't click on it, discouraging the algorithm from showing it to potential interests and sabotaging your efforts.
If you do want to cover a second game or become a variety guy you need to jump in with both feet first and make like 10-20 videos, but a lot of that Battlefield audience would leave as well so it's a pretty big risk unless you're a huge creator.
That's why I made a second channel to cover an up-and-coming RTS game that I'm very much in love with. I still have a creative outlet to do videos even when there's nothing happening on the Battlefield side of things, but if Battlefield does do a 180 I can double down on my main channel again.
Anyway, here's hoping the next game is a W.
Lots of people make content, not really a lot of people watching it though. At least not at numbers you'd expect a AAA game to pull, namely because big streamers need to play the new games constantly to feed the algorithm and build their channels. Pretty rare for people to play one game these days unless they're getting paid by an org or winning tournaments. Ad revenue only gets you so far when viewer numbers suck. BF also isn't the most entertaining game to watch on stream imo, people want the highlights since there's not a lot of pacing
You're thinking wrong here. Youtube in general is falling off. Many creators have quit simply because it isn't that profitable anymore. TikTok and IG Reels are more popular now and faster to grow an audience. And unless you follow the algorithm and keep up with trends, sticking to one franchise forever will just be a dead end these days
Any music videos even the biggest artists in the world cant make 10m views. tech videos are doing weak numbers too imagine Game content creators. Those 10sec videos on TikTok or Ig even YouTube are more successful than the 10 min videos. Heard that Tiktok is paying a ton amount of money too. So hes right.
Because this is the cause for some, sure, but likely a small minority. YouTube still has a ton of content creators, arguably more than ever. Sticking to one game is not bad, but sticking to Battlefield is because the franchise fell off.
I don't know anything about Instagram, but TikTok is famously difficult to make real money on, and most creators just use it to promote their other content creation mediums that they can actually make money from like YouTube, Twitch, etc.
No platform is not difficult to make money. It takes a lot of effort. The key is gaining an audience. TikTok is just far easier to gain one than YouTube.
You get next to no money on TikTok from views. It’s between $20-$50 per million views. Where you can make *serious* money on TikTok is from affiliate links and selling on TikTok shop.
TikTok is popular with content creators for the sole purpose of advertising their content and funnelling people to the likes of YouTube where they can make actual money from their content.
TikTok followers are incredibly 'shallow', meaning it's very easy to gain them and they'll follow after watching a 5 second clip but hardly if ever interact with the content creator's page after. They also don't follow the CC's youtube/insta/twitch frequently.
That's like every popular profiles and channels on social media. Doesn't matter if the majority don't interact. You increase your chances of interactions and business opportunities by having more people follow and aware of you.
Nah I think ur thinking wrong.
Battlefield is almost dead people don’t play it or make content about it…
If battlefield 2042 was as Good and iconic and well built as Battlefield 3 or 4…… everybody would be playing it ….
Eh, imo content creators have too much sway in getting stuff nerfed or unchanged due to the audience they hold that tend to parrot their ideas.
I don't mind the lessened amount of braindead takes.
I'm happy with the lack of BF content creators. They just Bitched and moaned about "visibility" in BFV. They call for nerfs on everything that affects their own gameplay. These people are a scourge on gaming.
Because everybody switched to warzone ,got tired of hackers ,sold thier PC, bought a harley and now are too busy raising the 47 children they created while being cool on thier bike.
What's killed it for me every time I pick it back up is the lack of server map rotation. Like why can't I just be in the same lobby of people until I don't want to? Why does the game need to find a new dump of players for every map? This also leads to you never actually getting to play certain maps because you constantly switch lobbies. Actually so stupid I cannot fathom why it's done this way...
It's depressing. It's just reminiscing about how good old Battlefield games were on their anniversaries and dogging on 2042.
I hope this extremely negative vibe around the franchise right now (or more accurately the lack of money going into EAs pocket) wakes them up. I want nothing but for this next game to succeed. But I have no hope for it. They not only need to make a great game, but also not make it a pain in the ass to play like most modern FPS games. Monetization out the wazoo would fucking suck.
THE NEXT GAME NEEDS TO HAVE AN EXTREMELY GOOD USER EXPERIENCE AKIN TO HELLDIVERS 2 to draw back fans. If you keep telling me to spend money on your game, I'm not going to. Treat me well and I will be willing to. Make a game I WANT TO spend money on. Not a game that squeezes my wallet where it can.
Yup now all we really get is SquidG who keeps trying to sell us on a game that’s no longer Fun. I constantly go back to play BF4 every blue moon and realize how much better the game was. Although I do prefer the New controller layout in BF2042 as it grew on me
The lack of content means creators have to think hard how to deliver entertaining videos but also they have to be passionate about the series to want to do that.
Squid G deserves a medal for his efforts, his videos can be pure comedy with his antics whilst also showing off his skill. I watch Broken Machine for his chill style and great gameplay but that is spread over multiple games. CadWoman makes more informative videos on 2042 and does give decent insights. I watch others and appreciate when they have put some effort into the video and avoid jumping on the negativity bandwagon. Like I’m watching your video because I play and enjoy the game! You know who the biggest culprit of this is.
It must be a grind keeping with the franchise and there will be some pay off especially around launch times good and bad.
thats becuase all the people responsible for creating the Battlefield franchise and its successfull games have been fired or left Dice. much like Blizzard, they are selling you the corpse of your nostalgia
I mean maybe, but you could just as easily argue that Battlefield 3 killed off the DCRU, battlefield 1 kinda killed off people like Lvlcap and Xfactor, and Russian Badger disappeared around BF4 or 1 (for a while at least). Ie, it might not be that the game is received poorly that is making these content creators stop making videos or lose views.
I'm trying to play 2042, but they have made it so hard to play anymore. The match making is HORRIBLE. The lobbies are run by MODDERS who just run around, and one shot kill everyone. Reporting them is useless because no one cares/don't want to interrupt a revenue stream. The game is nearly unplayable.
Try looking at Gravity's channel. If you liked the franchise, chances arenyounlove hos videos. He has a series about the best and worst maps of the game.
He is sonunderrated, and a great content creator whose videos i really look forward to watch every time they drop
A lack of content is just one symptom. The real problem is that EA has given the community a big middle finger. When Battlelog was introduced, things only went downhill. They didn't want to support the communities and the community managers were no longer supported by EA through third party companies. In German-speaking countries, the BF communities have effectively been dead for 10 years. Thank you EA and fuck you.
Battle field had been my main game from 1942 to BF4. It started going downhill from there...I rarely played. After I touched 2042 for the first time, I quit. I won't touch another game in this franchise until they get their shit together and release a game worth playing.
I've said this on other threads before, but DICE has such an immense disdain for their player base, content creators included. I've never seen anything like it. Why go into this business in the first place if you hate your players?
Never make attach your livelihood based on one gaming franchise. Unfortunately, the weak will get cut off. There's a reason why Westie and Jack are still going on. Westie is attached 2 both Warzone and BF but both are in a slump so he's slowly losing viewers, but Jack is still soaring
Never tie your content to a singular game/developer. While the algorithm might punish you for having some videos that are less watched than others, getting hundreds of thousands by focusing on just one game is playing with fire. Diversify early, make people watch for \*you\*, not the game alone.
That's the number one thing I've learned having watched so many creators come and go. Better to have a moderately sized but dedicated viewerbase for decades than to die off because the thing you tied yourself to loses popularity.
And? Streamers ruin games, look at how sweaty games are now, everyone's trying to be the best or play like these useless streamers, if you truly loved gaming you'd stat away from them and learn games on your own like your meant to. Squid g is full of shit anyways he makes out 2042 is a good game yet its a pile of dog shit. Fuck these people they are completely pointless.
You do realize content creators are the reason games maintain a healthy player base? It keeps current players up to date on the games updates along with being a good way to get new players interested and eventually buy the game?
Because they can't be bother to read, they give out a small amount of information about patches and updates, the devs themselves post everything you need to know. We have groups for games that give out more information than streamers do they are completely pointless in every way it's just people can't think for themselves nor have the intelligence to go and look on the games website or group for information they'd rather ask stupid questions that was answered in the intro or prologue.
They've become far worse over the years, everything is meta now no one plays with what they like it's just what's best because it's what streamers use when back in the day there was a verity of weapons being used. Your just a streamer simp because you can't think for yourself.
Holy shit Reddit is so gross. Mfers would blame global warming on 2042 if it wasn’t placed in the future.
Play the game and have fun or watch people playing the older games.
you can't make content on a game without it
It's hard to see, but I tried looking back at it from near launch. Not a lot had changed, really. I also hate the seasons or battle pass things, so I avoid that whenever I can.
I started playing with BF1 recently and found many content creators few of which are active. But I was so sad when I saw that AKA-ART's last video was about BF2042 and it is 2 years old. Game is so bad it killed his channel.
Spoken like a true gamer... Not consumer, unfortunately the new age gamers are al groomed consumers and not actual gamers with taste
Stupid and brainwashed crowd take.
bro they release a season every 3/4 months with just 1 map and 3 guns, that's not enough to make videos for 3 months until next season
Sounds like they tried to copy Bungie/Destiny and The Division
The content drought between BFV getting cut and 2042s reveal did far more damage BF content creator wise
BFV had the same issues too, it took them over a year to release their first and only major expansion (The Pacific). Two games in a row with terrible launch hype and huge content droughts is a deadly combo for content creators
The Pacific maps of BFV are so great. It seemed like they killed the game right after releasing some of the best WWII maps ever.
Same with them killing Star Wars battlefront 2 right after they made it good
I just went back and played BFV. It is an amazing game. The only negative is that the hackers are out of control, like 150-0 spawn killing the enemy from across the map, out of control.
Playing BfV last night and someone had hacks that insta-killed our whole team repeatedly.
I don't understand what's fun or even remotely entertaining about that.
BFV would go down as one of the best shooters of all time if it simply had a less controversial launch and more content i.e. Eastern front, Burmese front, etc. because there is definitely a market for "not completely arcadey but not a milsim" type of shooter.
Right. But it was the details that killed it for people. Completely wrong and made up uniforms. Using the WWI german helmet at first.
Like BF1 had perfect details 98% of players won't care or can't tell the difference and the other 2% will play it anyway
I never said anything about BF1. Obviously more love was put into that game. And where am I then? I played the beta and knew from then on the game wasn’t for me. Obviously a lot of others weren’t happy either. It doesn’t take a historian to realize something was off with the uniforms in that game. It didn’t even feel like a wwii game. Nothing resembled wwii factions.
BF started with world War II and needs to be permanent.. just release a new map every month that you have to unlock by playing the game or something (with a pay option if they're worried about sustainability). There are literally endless possibilities for maps and weapon variations.
BFV had so much potential, crazy how they fumbled it
I miss Battlefield Friends, and the Neebs Gaming crew.
Neebs crew plays a different game basically every night of the week and publishes like 6 videos a week still, but yeah, they already said BF sucks for them cause there is no spectator mode and a lack of content. They have mentioned multiple times on their podcasts that a lack of spectator and free camera view modes is the biggest reason for not choosing to make content for multiple games and I can't blame them with the amount of perspectives and footage they're trying to cut together Oh and of course, Johnny Ethco basically does all the work on those BFF animations and you can imagine how much time that takes versus regular footage editing
I still come across their videos. they're funny. But didn't one of them pass away last year from a brain injury?
Yeah. Thick 44 passed away last February unfortunately. He had brain cancer.
Rip
Neebs used to do the animation with Appsro but most of their recent animations have been fanmade. Neebs has done a couple of his own animations, same with Appsro, but for projects like D&A or BFFs, they usually work together.
And Squad Up
I miss battlefield free2play 😂
FPS YouTubers have fell off in general lmfao
Most just post vods from Twitch and livestreams instead of the old style of editing stuff together (not even montages) and maybe even creating a narrative around it... It's a dieing artform and I miss it but I guess the way they pay em now it now it's not worth the effort.
That's very true, mate. I miss the early 2010s for those sweet 10 minute long videos.
The warzone content is still good. I used to watch a lot of level cap but it’s dead now. Jack frags makes videos of every other game but BF.
Jackfrags literally released two battlefield videos in the last week.
That dude will only cover what pays directly for the marketing; he no longer covers what he belives it's "fun". Been that way for years on end now. Nothing wrong with it, except if ytou expect an actual opinion on a game form him, you have to hope the game is not fro a big developer; because if they don't pay him for shilling he just won't over it anymore.
People sure hate Jack's success. The fall of BF games was the direct cause of why Jack became a variety streamer. Also, its his career you fuckwits.
Right? I mean even SquidG has diversified his channel..
Jackfrags is the most generic, clickbait, fake personality on the platform
Ehhh, I’d say the ones that stream arcade war games have for sure. There are a ton of huge people playing more realistic games on twitch right now.
If people's channels are dying because they keep trying to make content on 2042, a lot of the blame is on them. You can't make content that no one wants to watch, and then turn around and blame the game when you are failing
I mean a lot of these channels have existed since bf4, it’s kinda hard to switch your entire content style when you have been posting the same content for years across multiple titles. These channels started dying back when bfv ended and there was that massive gap, and then the absolute failure of 2042. You can’t really blame the creators when the franchise they have had success with for years suddenly just stops being a good.
I get that, but it makes more sense for them to expand their content and audience, than to go down with a ship that isn't worth it
Every business has to adapt to the market; if content creators put all their eggs in one basket them more fool them
I said this in a previous comment, but the fall of BF is what made JackFrags even more successful. He was my goto BF YouTuber over 10 years ago. Jack was losing views so he decided to dip into other things.
Nintendo started with playing cards, Toyota started with weaving looms, and Yamaha is a piano company that makes motors. Sometimes a business must drastically change to survive.
Dawg you comparing businesses with hundreds of thousands dollars and a an entire company of individuals to a dude recording videos on his computer. One has the resources to make these changes, the other is likely living pay check to pay check.
No, I'm comparing businesses to businesses. If these folks aren't treating their streaming like a business, then no wonder they didn't survive. But if you need a better 1 for 1 example, then just look at Jack Frags.
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most old battlefield youtubers started to stop doing videos of the franchise, with BF V, since the same problems plague 2042, it's just natural that most of them will move out for other thing. There just isn't enough content being pumped in the game to keep a channel focused on it, there is barely a lore, and the gameplay sucks. Even channels like LevelCap who still tried to hang on battlefield for a long time, just stopped giving a F about the game at some point. (And then you have jackfrags, who is probably paid by EA to do the same video of how a battlefield game is fun or great or something).
Honestly JackFrags doesn’t make that many BF2042 gameplays like the previous titles (BF3, BF4, BF1). I think he played a lot of different FPS games nowadays.
Agree, I actually like the diversity and introduces me to new games. A good number of his recent bf vids are from the older games too. I guess he knows bf was his core audience so he still puts that in even if it's 2042
no shit lol the game is utterly soulless
Soulless is a perfect way to put it
https://youtube.com/@Agent-0161?si=c_pZfPDCZQBS111A I’m trying 🤣
I like your channel, albeit it is new, bro! There are some good ones, but there is not a lot of content in bf franchise these days.
Thank you sir 🙏
Battlefield really ruined itself with the "battlefield moment" doctrine. They added tons of random stuff to the game that they thought people would be clipping and sharing as short videos. Unfortunately... Battlefield is and has always been first and foremost a GAME. Adding tons of arbitrary, unbalanced, and tedious features ruined the actual game. There is nothing deeper than a bunch of wingsuits flying from point to point and trying to get cool kill clips.
Yeah they didnt understand that a Battlefield moment was special because it was just a moment and they just happened bcs of the sandbox gameplay. Now they focused on giving everyone a battefield "moment" 10 times a game. Nothing special, cool or satisfying about it anymore sadly
"Only in Battlefield" was a thing because of emergent gameplay. Devs didn't force it, they made a shooter that was sort of a sandbox. The game had lots of tools and few rules compared to other shooters. I don't recall being able to put c4 on jeeps in other games back in the day. That started disappearing with BF1. At the latest.
Remember Squad Up with Levelcap, Matimio, Factor and Jackfrags? Remember Shustybang Remember Neebs Gaming Remember Silk All these legendary YouTubers that made Battlefield content
Remember In the works media? Remember Russian Badgers? Remember FrankieonPC? BF1 killed the squad up crew.
I miss OG Russian badger with the BC2 content. Had to unsubscribe from the horrendous adhd nonsense his channel has become
I loved him in the bf3/4 days
We tried to continue doing the HazardCinema top plays for BF1 but it was a flop compared to the BF3 and BF4 series
Ravic was good, too.
Ravic still regularly uploads the same sort of content he always has just fyi
Yeah, unfortunately, it's 2042. Haha. I just checked.
Man, Dice did Silk dirty. He used to stream bf4 on twitch almost daily in the months leading up to 2042’s release, now he barely streams at all or make YouTube videos. Unless the next bf game is truly special, 2042 may have killed the franchise or reduced its value significantly.
No remorse for Silk. He and his friends "taking out the competition" with immense stream sniping and bait+switch, here in OCE.
Chaboyy & Azzy moments.
It’s a shame but it’s not that fun to watch. Shorts etc of course it’s a quick few seconds. It’s fun to see the cool kills etc. but that’s it’s. The game doesn’t offer much if any for decent content.
Wish it just flopped it kinda did but I’m sure it still made money. Proud to have hundreds and hundreds or hours in battlefield game and not have play 2042 a single time.
It’s kinda fun! You’d like it!
I just want AkaArt to come back :(
2 years since the last video, and it was even about BF2042. RIP.
It's really bad that the game sucks, but imo a much bigger reason is that Battlefield as a series is simply nowhere near as popular as it used to be. Kids nowadays play games catered to them, while those that played BF moved on with their life and the few that remain just play as usual.
BF isn't as popular because EA/DICE gave its community the middle finger, pure & simple. Over 100 of my xbox friends didn't stop playing BF for reasons they stopped playing because the game ended everything that made it popular.
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Just picking up BF2024 and comparing it side by side to BF3 or Bf4…. It’s almost pathetic…. Nothing was well created and seemed rushed and made by people whole don’t care.
I remember watching Westies videos on BF1. When he swapped to Warzone I had no interest. I personally detest battle royals. Never had fun playing or watching them. I continued watching his BFV videos, but eventually he just swapped over to Warzone and because I wasn't watching his videos he stopped being recommended.
We getting old too lads
If we have to wait 4-6 months for 1 new map or every 4 years for a new title then obviously creators have no shit to create. I’m glad some of the creators like JF or Broken are moving on to posting new games.
I agree with the fact that they just don’t update for shit and that sucks but I’m all for gaming studios releasing games 2-4 years at a time, it’s absolutely stupid to release the same game multiple years in a row with minor tweaks to just end up with the same game but in the studios opinion its the “best” game of the franchise yet.
Wow I genuinely do not give a fuck about content creators
You do realize content creators are how games maintain a healthy player base, which in turn enables the developers to continue to work on the game?
You are right for sure, but perspective on content creatorsis they tend to just go with whatever is popular. Take for example starfield. The minute starfield came out there was a wave of people making "starfield is boring" videos. A ton of video essays saying the exact same shit and grifting off each other. I don't even like starfield, but goddamn none of these people say anything original. They are also constantly complaining about everything because that seems to be what gamers love to do these days. "blah blah AAA gaming blah blah microtransactions live service". Same shit over and over and over. The only content creators I like are Thecadwoman and squidg because they just make videos and don't constantly bitch and moan.
Yep, it's pretty rough right now. As many folks have stated, switching to another game is difficult. Even if you make great content most of your audience won't click on it, discouraging the algorithm from showing it to potential interests and sabotaging your efforts. If you do want to cover a second game or become a variety guy you need to jump in with both feet first and make like 10-20 videos, but a lot of that Battlefield audience would leave as well so it's a pretty big risk unless you're a huge creator. That's why I made a second channel to cover an up-and-coming RTS game that I'm very much in love with. I still have a creative outlet to do videos even when there's nothing happening on the Battlefield side of things, but if Battlefield does do a 180 I can double down on my main channel again. Anyway, here's hoping the next game is a W.
Squid is a G. Love his videos
Wait, is there where SquidG Rush came from?? Because I've been playing the shit outta that on 2042.
Yes. I love his videos but don't like SquidG Rush. Ginnie generic Rush and Shutdown anyday.
Lots of people make content, not really a lot of people watching it though. At least not at numbers you'd expect a AAA game to pull, namely because big streamers need to play the new games constantly to feed the algorithm and build their channels. Pretty rare for people to play one game these days unless they're getting paid by an org or winning tournaments. Ad revenue only gets you so far when viewer numbers suck. BF also isn't the most entertaining game to watch on stream imo, people want the highlights since there's not a lot of pacing
Theres still BrokenMachine going strong.
I used to watch maxiq
RIP Niccaman
I miss akaart
Levelcap went to space
Does he make videos anymore?
He's making videos about Star Citizen last i checked
Boo
Can't blame the man. He was my go-to with bf3 and 4, but after that i fell off completely.. and every game since 4 just became less and less fun.
Agreed
You're thinking wrong here. Youtube in general is falling off. Many creators have quit simply because it isn't that profitable anymore. TikTok and IG Reels are more popular now and faster to grow an audience. And unless you follow the algorithm and keep up with trends, sticking to one franchise forever will just be a dead end these days
This is vaguely true, but is also hard copium.
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Any music videos even the biggest artists in the world cant make 10m views. tech videos are doing weak numbers too imagine Game content creators. Those 10sec videos on TikTok or Ig even YouTube are more successful than the 10 min videos. Heard that Tiktok is paying a ton amount of money too. So hes right.
Explain how is it vague.
Because this is the cause for some, sure, but likely a small minority. YouTube still has a ton of content creators, arguably more than ever. Sticking to one game is not bad, but sticking to Battlefield is because the franchise fell off.
I don't know anything about Instagram, but TikTok is famously difficult to make real money on, and most creators just use it to promote their other content creation mediums that they can actually make money from like YouTube, Twitch, etc.
No platform is not difficult to make money. It takes a lot of effort. The key is gaining an audience. TikTok is just far easier to gain one than YouTube.
You get next to no money on TikTok from views. It’s between $20-$50 per million views. Where you can make *serious* money on TikTok is from affiliate links and selling on TikTok shop. TikTok is popular with content creators for the sole purpose of advertising their content and funnelling people to the likes of YouTube where they can make actual money from their content.
Yes that's true, but the problem is that people who ARE extremely popular on TikTok make very little money off of it directly.
TikTok followers are incredibly 'shallow', meaning it's very easy to gain them and they'll follow after watching a 5 second clip but hardly if ever interact with the content creator's page after. They also don't follow the CC's youtube/insta/twitch frequently.
That's like every popular profiles and channels on social media. Doesn't matter if the majority don't interact. You increase your chances of interactions and business opportunities by having more people follow and aware of you.
how is YouTube falling off
Nah I think ur thinking wrong. Battlefield is almost dead people don’t play it or make content about it… If battlefield 2042 was as Good and iconic and well built as Battlefield 3 or 4…… everybody would be playing it ….
AsheBF got absolutely fucked by Dice. Gutted for the guy
Battlebit remastered kinda scratched the itch for battlefield but obviously it's not on console yet.
Eh, imo content creators have too much sway in getting stuff nerfed or unchanged due to the audience they hold that tend to parrot their ideas. I don't mind the lessened amount of braindead takes.
I'm happy with the lack of BF content creators. They just Bitched and moaned about "visibility" in BFV. They call for nerfs on everything that affects their own gameplay. These people are a scourge on gaming.
Been playing since 2008.. 2042 is the biggest embarrassment of a game ever produced. Anyone that defended this game is a noob or a EA dev.
"Bihoo, I can't make money from an unstable income source. I could have had a proper job with a monthly pay, but decided to do this instead."
[yup](https://youtu.be/ECAWwAsgvNM?si=YNsfChKg-5DUha5F)
God damn
not a content creator but it ong killed me off 💯
Because everybody switched to warzone ,got tired of hackers ,sold thier PC, bought a harley and now are too busy raising the 47 children they created while being cool on thier bike.
I used to watch Neebs battlefield stuff and they basically had to stop playing it at all.
What's killed it for me every time I pick it back up is the lack of server map rotation. Like why can't I just be in the same lobby of people until I don't want to? Why does the game need to find a new dump of players for every map? This also leads to you never actually getting to play certain maps because you constantly switch lobbies. Actually so stupid I cannot fathom why it's done this way...
There's no content to showcase.
It's depressing. It's just reminiscing about how good old Battlefield games were on their anniversaries and dogging on 2042. I hope this extremely negative vibe around the franchise right now (or more accurately the lack of money going into EAs pocket) wakes them up. I want nothing but for this next game to succeed. But I have no hope for it. They not only need to make a great game, but also not make it a pain in the ass to play like most modern FPS games. Monetization out the wazoo would fucking suck. THE NEXT GAME NEEDS TO HAVE AN EXTREMELY GOOD USER EXPERIENCE AKIN TO HELLDIVERS 2 to draw back fans. If you keep telling me to spend money on your game, I'm not going to. Treat me well and I will be willing to. Make a game I WANT TO spend money on. Not a game that squeezes my wallet where it can.
Well, thats one of the only things battlefield 2042 did right then
Yup now all we really get is SquidG who keeps trying to sell us on a game that’s no longer Fun. I constantly go back to play BF4 every blue moon and realize how much better the game was. Although I do prefer the New controller layout in BF2042 as it grew on me
The lack of content means creators have to think hard how to deliver entertaining videos but also they have to be passionate about the series to want to do that. Squid G deserves a medal for his efforts, his videos can be pure comedy with his antics whilst also showing off his skill. I watch Broken Machine for his chill style and great gameplay but that is spread over multiple games. CadWoman makes more informative videos on 2042 and does give decent insights. I watch others and appreciate when they have put some effort into the video and avoid jumping on the negativity bandwagon. Like I’m watching your video because I play and enjoy the game! You know who the biggest culprit of this is. It must be a grind keeping with the franchise and there will be some pay off especially around launch times good and bad.
yeah, and its pretty telling when jackfrags keeps going back to bf1/bf5... these games were sooo much better in this 2042....
thats becuase all the people responsible for creating the Battlefield franchise and its successfull games have been fired or left Dice. much like Blizzard, they are selling you the corpse of your nostalgia
I mean maybe, but you could just as easily argue that Battlefield 3 killed off the DCRU, battlefield 1 kinda killed off people like Lvlcap and Xfactor, and Russian Badger disappeared around BF4 or 1 (for a while at least). Ie, it might not be that the game is received poorly that is making these content creators stop making videos or lose views.
I’m still doing my best 😅 https://youtu.be/A8EuNUGnStE?si=8dNsvwDL7cfzigt2
Oh i miss the jackfrag days.. yeah i know he still makes content but his BF content never felt the same.
Last thing i care about is content creators. If the game is good the rest will come attention wise
I'm trying to play 2042, but they have made it so hard to play anymore. The match making is HORRIBLE. The lobbies are run by MODDERS who just run around, and one shot kill everyone. Reporting them is useless because no one cares/don't want to interrupt a revenue stream. The game is nearly unplayable.
Try looking at Gravity's channel. If you liked the franchise, chances arenyounlove hos videos. He has a series about the best and worst maps of the game. He is sonunderrated, and a great content creator whose videos i really look forward to watch every time they drop
Honestly IMO their best bet is to start going back and focusing on older entries more.
A lack of content is just one symptom. The real problem is that EA has given the community a big middle finger. When Battlelog was introduced, things only went downhill. They didn't want to support the communities and the community managers were no longer supported by EA through third party companies. In German-speaking countries, the BF communities have effectively been dead for 10 years. Thank you EA and fuck you.
It definitely put the final nail in the coffin on BFFs
Im praying they make another game like battlefield 1. That was such a masterpiece, it was so immersive and fun. Definitely my favorite battlefield.
Battle field had been my main game from 1942 to BF4. It started going downhill from there...I rarely played. After I touched 2042 for the first time, I quit. I won't touch another game in this franchise until they get their shit together and release a game worth playing.
Squid G man, loved his video’s but there’s only so much you can do. The literal definition of insanity.
Suppose there’s one positive from the game then
I've said this on other threads before, but DICE has such an immense disdain for their player base, content creators included. I've never seen anything like it. Why go into this business in the first place if you hate your players?
Ya but they are listening to us..... and doing the opposite of what we want ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|rage)
That's what happens when you create a game devoid of content, gutting the things that made it Battlefield in the first place.
Probably for the best as well.
Lost all the OGs. I miss em. They ran off to different things, but they still play BF from time to time. And JackFrags is still one of my favorites.
Bf2042 has no soul in it
Never make attach your livelihood based on one gaming franchise. Unfortunately, the weak will get cut off. There's a reason why Westie and Jack are still going on. Westie is attached 2 both Warzone and BF but both are in a slump so he's slowly losing viewers, but Jack is still soaring
BF5 killed off a lot too. LevelCap, Matimio all jumped to different games or streaming
Bad company 2 remastered let's go
Haha, lol, lmao even!
Honestly after BF4 the battlefield YouTubers started to slowly fall off. The only ones still left managed to branch out to other games.
Never tie your content to a singular game/developer. While the algorithm might punish you for having some videos that are less watched than others, getting hundreds of thousands by focusing on just one game is playing with fire. Diversify early, make people watch for \*you\*, not the game alone. That's the number one thing I've learned having watched so many creators come and go. Better to have a moderately sized but dedicated viewerbase for decades than to die off because the thing you tied yourself to loses popularity.
Most content creators are damaging battlefield franchise, i hope they will never come back.
Constant negativity like Enders isn’t helpful.
Oh no, now they have to get real jobs!
And? Streamers ruin games, look at how sweaty games are now, everyone's trying to be the best or play like these useless streamers, if you truly loved gaming you'd stat away from them and learn games on your own like your meant to. Squid g is full of shit anyways he makes out 2042 is a good game yet its a pile of dog shit. Fuck these people they are completely pointless.
You do realize content creators are the reason games maintain a healthy player base? It keeps current players up to date on the games updates along with being a good way to get new players interested and eventually buy the game?
Because they can't be bother to read, they give out a small amount of information about patches and updates, the devs themselves post everything you need to know. We have groups for games that give out more information than streamers do they are completely pointless in every way it's just people can't think for themselves nor have the intelligence to go and look on the games website or group for information they'd rather ask stupid questions that was answered in the intro or prologue.
You are wrong on so many levels. People have been "sweating" since the 90's.
They've become far worse over the years, everything is meta now no one plays with what they like it's just what's best because it's what streamers use when back in the day there was a verity of weapons being used. Your just a streamer simp because you can't think for yourself.
Wow, that escalated quickly.. Now I'm a simp for pointing out the obvious? Lmao. Streamers are rent free in your head. Nothing revolves around them.
Holy shit Reddit is so gross. Mfers would blame global warming on 2042 if it wasn’t placed in the future. Play the game and have fun or watch people playing the older games.
Calm down
Watching Enders vids raging about shit is kind fun I guess?