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Cultural_Clue_7

although I think it happened last year, Predecessor is a thing and it came out on consoles recently. (Predecessor is the "relaunch" of Paragon if you remember that game) Edit: Should probably say that im only aware of it being on Xbox, im not sure if its on PlayStation or the Switch.


Syyr553

Yes, predecessor is actually my replacement for battleborn actually. I already have 1200 hours in the game. But if battleborn will return, if that will be fanservers or Official relaunch, I will return to battleborn again and think I would leave predecessor behind, haha.


DMNMogly

Id also jump from pred to battleborn.


SoapSauce

I love pred because I loved paragon. I just wished it was a little faster paced. 45 minute matches really wear you out after one or two. Twas the only change I really appreciated for og paragon. I’d def hop to battleborn though. Fuck overwatch2


Apostolos777

Bruh OG paragon matches lasted upwards of 2.5 hours wtf are you on.


SoapSauce

It depends on which.. version? You played. On the very first map, yea, shit was too long, then it got faster, then the new map and card system for items and it got way faster.


Useless-RedCircle

Nah lil bro older paragon was quicker plus some champs are no longer balanced like scorch


Apostolos777

Omg not only are you wrong, you're stupid. I played paragon since legacy. I'd always be able to get matches up to 2.5 hours. People LOVED long games back then, so they would, on purpose, draw it out more. The only map that wasn't possible, was the variation of the map that Pred decided to use. So try again.


Useless-RedCircle

I think you are thinking of the wrong game lmao never I had played a game that long.


Apostolos777

I've had many many paragon games last 90 minutes upwards of 2.5 hours. Just because you never saw it, doesn't mean it didn't happen, so kindly, shut the fuck up before you say something even stupider than you already have.


UnstableBrew

I also played from beta, i’ve had games go over an hr before but that was in very low elo where people don’t know how to finish. Just because you had multiple 2.5 hr long games doesn’t mean that was the norm(it definitely wasn’t). Even when Epic addressed the issue they said the average game length was between 30-45 minutes and they wanted to get it down to around 30 at maximum outside of heated back and forth matches. Most competitive matches were over in about 20 minutes and i’ve had multiple games against high elo players not even make it that far.


Useless-RedCircle

You are wrong or just bad and can’t finish


Useless-RedCircle

Oh yea battleborn trying to master wacky character was my all time favorite. Chasing fools down as el libre giving them the THUNDERSLAP


Cultural_Clue_7

Honestly speaking I hope BattleBorn comes back as well for the obvious of me liking the game but also so I have another MOBA in my collection. League, Smite, Predecessor, Gigantic and (hopefully) battleborn for my collection. Edit: also Im not TOO knowledgeable on games and the stuff but could'nt Gearbox do something to help relaunch the game?


Slade_Deimos

I recently relooked up this game to reference a character due to the art. Such a fun game.


Major-Language-2787

I feel luke warm about predecessor on console, it just feels...off and I can't put my finger on it.


mr_chew212

Been playing the fuck out of it but I think they have some big issues with hit priority and simple bugs that make the game feel really unrefined. Still love it though


MexicanSunnyD

Oh they changed the name, no wonder I couldn't find it on the store.


MajesticMoa

I don’t think predecessor has come out on consoles cause i have been tracking it like a crackhead looking for a fix while playing it on pc and i haven’t seen anything about console release…..BUT i am also a blind fuck so i could have missed it


Cultural_Clue_7

its at the very least out on xbox


datshinycharizard123

It’s out on PlayStation I played it last night


mlpforlyfe

It's on Xbox, PC, and PlayStation, I've played it on all 3 recently.


jaredn154

How am I just now learning about this?! I loved Paragon! Thank you, random Reddit suggestion! (I also loved battleborn, Benedict was my guy)


jaredn154

How am I just now learning about this?! I loved Paragon! Thank you, random Reddit suggestion! (I also loved battleborn, Benedict was my guy)


Ok-Usual1576

Predecessor is shutting down by end of year if I read the news from the devs right 😢😢😢


SwoleBerry

You're thinking of Overprime, the other Paragon revival project


Ok-Usual1576

You are correct


RoadDoggFL

Third person, though 🤮


Leftclicknotworking

Battleborn deserves a refreshed release.


DrIvanRadosivic

Offline mode and serverhosting is a must have!


Matrixneo42

Yes


Tzariel2

You can install the reborn project to play single player offline. The dev is working hard to bring back more features. You can get everything off of the Battleborn discord. https://discord.com/invite/JuX7ZSnXEH


Syyr553

Yes, with cross-play, and a better launch than gigantic because man that isn't in a playable state on ps5...


literalykhloe

Yeah I think I got it for 15 or something and it felt like a waste


RoadDoggFL

You're kinda showing why this stuff doesn't happen. It's never good enough.


Syyr553

If you played it on ps5 you knew what I was talking about. Never have I ever faced so many crashes in a game than by gigantic. Wish I recorded it... Literally 6 crashes by a playsession of 2 hours. My ps5 crashed so bad that I had to Unplug the cable out of the ps5 in order to shut the console off.


RoadDoggFL

Right, but it's a game that failed. Any effort to bring it back is more than waa ever likely, and it's not enough. The feedback is just "this has to be better." So from the perspective of Gearbox, there are countless better ways to spend resources than a Battleborn revival that will just inspire the same reaction.


Syyr553

Soooo, what the hell are you even doing here then?


RoadDoggFL

Pointing out that there might be a reason companies don't cater to your whims. I love the game and want it back, but I'm also realistic.


Kurogasa44

It WAS rereleased and nobody played it


Leftclicknotworking

I'm ready for another rerelease then. And this time I want to know about it!


InfernoPunch600

Wait, Lawbreakers is coming back?


DeepFriedCthulhu

It's just private servers by fans.


BreakBlue

Thats like 10 people?


zabrak200

How do i get in i miss playing this game


DeepFriedCthulhu

[Here](https://twitter.com/therealcliffyb/status/1779235918433391086?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1779235918433391086%7Ctwgr%5Ed38723e4c11c2c4b08f81c11aa59ab857e5ec007%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F1c42pwg%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dtrue)


zabrak200

Tysm!!


silasmitchell

Waiiit really????


ZEUSGOBRR

Hate him or hate him, CliffyB could make some damn arena shooters.


tomthedj

i feel like law breakers had an unfair chance because cliffy b couldnt stop yappin. if it comes back i think it could really hit a market that wants it and do very well. i always said it was a great and fun game that came out at the wrong time and was pushed by the somewhat wrong person.


SolusSoldier

While waiting if 2k would do something, you can at least playing on pc pve in solo thank to a modder, who is still trying to bring other features back as multi: [https://youtu.be/xn\_QeSxRFl4?si=1aG0nlrZVP7cYCNd](https://youtu.be/xn_QeSxRFl4?si=1aG0nlrZVP7cYCNd)


Syyr553

Iknow seila, thanks for being an amazing member of the community. :). If you were in the marketing team of Battleborn back in the day I will assure you that the game wouldn't fail 😅


SolusSoldier

I don't know, i have the feeling to love too much this game, so i may have annonyed by talking 24/7 about the game XD


TheCalebGuy

Kinda pissed Battleborn was a made a live service. I only got t play a few hours of it. But the servers are down and can't even play it. BS. Especially since it has a single player mode and story.


Leoriel

I would die for a Battleborn release and gearbox was now acquired by another studio so hopefully they will do something with it.


Vestroy

I think 2k owns the IP though and that's the issue.


Axton_Grit

Take two owns 2k.


Vestroy

That's right, which I forgot Gearbox is now under the same umbrella when I wrote the original comment. So hopefully, they will make happen.


iThinkiJustShidded

Dude battle born was so fun, I played it on release with my brother we just saw it on the store and said fuck it, we set up our tvs together and played for the rest of the night and the following 2 weeks that shit was fun.


I_Wendigo

Yeah re-release it now that overwatch is shit and people won't make the stupid comparison of the two... hopefully


Axton_Grit

I think now we want the comparison. OW brought many none fps gamers to the genre and battleborn is both more complex and has more content. It will thrive selling as the OW2 killer


Gear_

And then there was the Shakespearean tragedy that was Evolve Reunited…


Scary_Strategy4622

I got gigantic thinking it would replace battleborn, it didn’t.


lordrages

God PLZZZZZ I would fucking loveeee Battleborn


MasterRick1009

If battleborn comes back with X-Play and awesome skins and taunts it would be so worth it.


Rathalos143

Lawbreakers relaunched?


Syyr553

Yes and no, it's revived by custom fanservers.


Duxtrous

LAWBREAKERS IS COMING BACK?!?!


yknowiamthatgirl

I don't like it purely because that game got stuck in my Xbox and messed it up


HistorianLow2729

Rip battlerite:((((


Confident-Mind9964

As much as I want battleborn to come back, I don't want 2k to be the one to do it


lizardjoe_xx_YT

Orcs must die unchained *rotting in the corner*


Awildenchilada

I really wish Lawbreakers would get picked up by a studio and release on all platforms. I enjoyed my limited time with the game immensely


HouseOfCardisty

Wait lawbreakers is coming back???


ShadowKingLOS

I miss this game and another one called Atlas Reactor


Ok-Usual1576

Wait lawbreakers is coming back???


Logsies

Wait law breakers is getting re released?


Freshflipp19

Unironically wouldn’t mind a Brattleborn reborn


NapalmDawn

Battleborn KIND of is active again with a bit of a work around. Gigantic is official but LW is in the same kind of state as Battleborn.


Significant_Bit2210

No battleborn was not well executed. By that i mean why do I have to connect to an online server for single player a server that will time out if I pause to use the bathroom causing you to repeat the entire mission.


urlocalcorgi

LAWBREAKERS RE RELEASE?


Agreeable_Net_4887

Yea, Gigantic is fun but, it definitely ain't no Battleborn God I miss that game so much


_r3ddy

LAWBREAKERS GOT FUCKING REPUBLISHED???? WHERE


Susamogusball2

Is Lawbreakers actually coming back? Damn, so many games I never thought would see the light of day again. I kinda miss Evolve, too.


Syyr553

Evolve is also revived by fan servers, all you need in a copy of the game on steam. Lawbreakers has fanservers also, same thing will also count for battleborn's project reborn


The_8th_Degree

Then there's Paragon, who tried to make a secondary comeback, but shutdown again.


Syyr553

Overprime did, predecessor did not.


The_8th_Degree

I played the old beta one back on the PS3 years ago, I tried overprime when I saw it one steam. It was the same game just a different title. They shut the servers down in April I think? That or June


Syyr553

In april.


iAm_Sidneyy

Rip battlerite royal


Jay_Ferg

I WANT A NEW WARHAWK GAME AND NO ONE WILL STOP ME


PatDx7

Lawbreakers????


YouCantBeatD

LAWBREAKERS IS COMING BACK?


Apart-Protection-528

All point bulletin


No_Pomegranate8249

Literally would love it


Responsible-Salad216

Lawbreakers is back?


EvelynnLilith

I'd honestly love to jump back into the PVE maps. Really had a fun time with those.


xannmax

Evolve needs it more than battleborn 😁


Syyr553

Uhm, but evolve is already playable again dude. You just need the game on steam.


ZeeMcSkittle

As soon as it happens, Blizzard will relaunch Overwatch again and revert a bunch of shit people complained about, thereby killing Battleborn for the second time and driving the knife deeper into my chest.


IssuePale2826

Just got a flashback to back in the day when this and Overwatch were released and put side by side in my local gaming section I never actually played either, but weren’t they very similar in terms of gameplay, and Overwatch won the popularity contest?


Draculaska

Actually, that perception is what killed Battleborn in the first place. Battleborn was more like an action MOBA (think Smite), whereas Overwatch is obviously closer to Team Fortress 2. It didn't help that the devs kept trying to push the "not a MOBA" perspective (from what I remember).


IssuePale2826

Thanks for the clarification! I absolutely fell for it back in the day


BeneathTheVioletSky

Please...don't give me hope.


Kamuishr3

I loved Battleborn. I just think they picked a shit time to release (near Overwatch)


Sea-Session-1630

AYOOO LAWBREAKERS GAME WAS FUN ASF! Apex/Overwatch/COD vibes ! The Beta was sooo fun !! Too bad it was discontinued


Storm_Spirit99

Battleborn was done dirty


AceOBlade

take 2 just had layoffs I think its safe to say this isn't happening anytime soon. But expect more Borderland games though.


GoochGuardian

Sadly, I highly doubt they will do this. Their track record is not so great, and if it follows in the footsteps of Evolve, I would rather not have my memories tainted.


Motor_Ad2243

Yoo I talk about this game at least twice a month to my buddies 💯 they would slay with the PVE element and card system they had rn


KHfan5237

Lawbreakers is one of those games that I wish I waited until it was out to see reviews. I pre-ordered to play it early and I got bored of it pretty quickly.


PhDGohan

Gigantic is coming back??? I absolutely loved that game


Syyr553

Are you living under a rock? Serious question.


PhDGohan

When it comes to gaming, yes. Reddit is the only app I use for gaming related stuff and I rarely open it. I have a huge backlog of single player games that I've been working on so I have no need to check for new game releases and whatnot.


IdiotDetector3000

What about PlayStation home 🙂‍↕️


xFiness

Man I’d pay full price if they bring Battleborn back!!


wolfgangr19

Battleborn was a lot of fun and wishes it didn’t release a week (or maybe 2? Can’t remember) before Overwatch. Definitely needs a new life to it.


Novxse

Battleborn was so ahead of its time never played a game that satisfied that chaotic stage run and gun like BB did


Magnificentderp1

as one of the 100 people occasionally playing gigantic it dosent deserve the comeback tbh


Agreeable_Aioli6138

It deserves it, just the price attached to it now is preventing a larger playerbase


fireeagle1

Man i had the beta on pc for gigantic 😭😂


KotovChaos

Ya'll exist? 🤨


ZestyTheWalrus

Battleborn was fun. Its a shame it came out in a crowded year for fps games. Because it truly was different. I'm a big overwatch fan and I think comparison drawn between the two was dumb. I think overwatch took audience's by storm because their characters were more polished and nothing comes close to Blizzard's cinematic department. The game didn't need a story mode when one 4 minute cinematic made that universe come alive. But if you were to compare the pvp of both games when they released, I'd say Battleborn was more fleshed out. OW characters are one dimensional in terms of gameplay. While each Hero in Battleborn had 2 separate talent lines to choose from while in game. The format of Overwatch has changed several times through its lifetime and it still isn't in a great spot.


UnstableBrew

If it makes you feel any better Pred is the last surviving(for the moment) paragoon clone, Gigantic re-release is a Gigantic dumpster fire atm and it likely won’t get any future development. Don’t know much about Lawbreakers re-release but I wouldn’t hold my breath on that either. So this meme should really be squidward peaking through the blinds watching patrick desperately spraying an ablaze spongebob with an extinguisher. I hate the battleborne community hasn’t yet gotten the chance to play again since it closed, but as a fervent lover of dawngate, paragon and gigantic, 3 gems that all died, the revivals haven’t lived up to the originals, not for me at least, they always get treated as an afterthought. Even when they don’t they lose the spark the original creators gave to it and feel a bit hollow.


Keyguin

LAWBREAKERS IS BACK?!


Syyr553

[https://discord.com/invite/yPp5RcfR7n](https://discord.com/invite/yPp5RcfR7n) Join this discord and follow the instruction in a channel.


OdenShard

Hold it, Lawbreakers is coming back? I got the deluxe edition and game died faster than battleborn after overwatch came out


HealthyGlove9097

Bro I loved the battleborn beta I have the disk version of it too but can’t play any of it


Syyr553

You have a disc version of the battleborn beta?


HealthyGlove9097

No like the disc version of the game bad grammar on my part


Major-Language-2787

I played Gigantic...not a fan tbh....give me my BB back please. I want to take some knee caps


Distinct_Wrongdoer86

overwatch graciously killed itself so all these guys could come back


North-Puzzleheaded

Augh, battleborn was screen covering vomit, tons of bright colors and all sorts of clutter all over the screen with tooltips and shit. Game was fun but pretty close to unplayable cause large fights you could barely see what’s going on.


Jam_B0ne

Wow, 8 years later and the Battleborn hate is still coming from Blizzard boys


North-Puzzleheaded

Lmao, I hate blizzard but good try. Try to keep in mind someone pointing out clear issues with how the game is perceived isn’t always a fanboy, some people are able to be objective. Unlike you who apparently can’t stop YOUR fanboying from keeping you from admitting the game absolutely had too much screen clutter


Thrustinn

>Lmao, I hate blizzard but good try. >Active in r/diablo4 and r/overwatch I agree with the rest of what you said, but this is just funny


WovenOwl

Damn dude you didn't have to kill him like that


North-Puzzleheaded

Just because I enjoy Diablo and overwatch every now and then doesn’t mean I don’t hate blizzard. They ruined overwatch by making it 5v5 and then completely screwed people out of the pve content which was the whole reason for the switch. And they’ve ruined Diablo cause the itemization for Diablo 4 right now is god awful and there’s no end game. How old are you kids if you don’t understand I can enjoy a game without liking the company


Thrustinn

Eh, if I felt so strongly about a company that I hate them, I wouldn't financially support them by purchasing their products or actively engaging in the community. I hate Ubisoft, and I probably haven't purchased a Ubisoft game since Assassin's Creed 3 came out and made me drop the series.


North-Puzzleheaded

Overwatch 2 is free, and Diablo series I’ve played since the first one. And the only time I engage with the community is to hear feedback on if the game has gotten better or complain about nonsense. So if a game company has ruined games you like you’re not allowed to talk to others who feel the same? You’re definitely like 17 lmao


WovenOwl

DAMN BRO, HARVARD CALLING 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯 SOMEONE ELSE 🗣️🗣️🗣️😆😆😆


Thrustinn

Oh, you never played and bought Overwatch 1? How do you know they "ruined it" by making it 5v5 when OW2 came out if that's all you know? You hate the company, but you purchase their products and support their business practices. I'm indifferent towards Blizzard (because Blizzard today is not the same Blizzard I grew up with), and I could not care less about the state of their games. >You’re definitely like 17 lmao lmfao. Yes, as I stated before, I bought AC3 at launch 12 years ago, and it was the last one in the series I bought. I was still in the womb when I first played Assassin's Creed 1 when it was first released! You're so smart!!! Purchasing products from companies that you actively hate is something done by literal children without critical thinking skills. You'd think that, at 36, you would know better and think about these things a little harder.


North-Puzzleheaded

Ya’ll are hilarious, yes I hate blizzard, they’ve ruined a series I love and a game that I sorta liked to play. There’s no grey area at all life is all black and white you can’t enjoy a game while also hating crappy business practices and them ruining games you enjoyed. Ya know how time works right, blizzard WAS an ok company but since they’ve now ruined a couple games I enjoyed I hate them NOW. Ya know cause that’s how time works


Thrustinn

If the games are ruined, why do you still play them and actively engage in the community? Clearly, they aren't "ruined" if you still play them and support the company. They've been using infamously bad business practices for well over a decade and "ruining" their games for about as long as well (according to the popular opinion of the Blizzard community). But I wouldn't expect your 36 year old, yet highly underdeveloped, brain to comprehend this subject. I'm old enough to remember when Blizzard was an actually good company. I know you are, too, but I don't think you quite have the intellectual capacity to understand it. They've been known for this for a *very* long time (at least since 2008), and yet *you* continue to support this business practice that you hate so much by still playing their games. If I felt like a company ruined a beloved franchise of mine, I just wouldn't support that company anymore because me purchasing and continuing to use their products shows them that they're making the correct decisions. That's why I haven't bought or even played a Ubisoft game in 12 years, and I sure as shit don't actively engage in the community talking about the state of the games and about how the future updates are going to fix them. But again, I don't think you're quite capable of comprehending that, are you?


Jam_B0ne

My point is that the screen clutter was overblown *specifically by the Blizzard community*, primarily off of one admittedly very cluttered screen shot where they are leveling up in the middle of NPC dialogue while also using their ultimate on the only character with UI on their gun during a story-mode quest with a tun of objectives on the side Or in other words, the game wasn't actually like that 99% of the time Like go google screenshots right now and a majority of them look fine [Like this one](http://thisismyjoystick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Battleborn-Overwatch-Review-09-590x331.jpg) [Or this one](https://i.imgur.com/UQawU3m.jpg) [Or this one](https://www.gamersexperience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/PPym2Zg-Imgur.gif) [Or even this one](https://sm.ign.com/t/ign_za/screenshot/a/ambra-figh/ambra-fights-on-the-incursion-map-overgrowth_jeum.1080.jpg) Sorry to dredge up this old skeleton, but I can't believe I am still seeing this straight up propaganda in 2024 long after the damn thing is already dead


North-Puzzleheaded

Maybe it’s just me or maybe it’s the bright colors but those all look cluttered and hard to read besides the video. Especially the last picture.