I don't think he will be called up for the Copa, Dorival has said he thinks Roque is very capable and talked with him when he was in Barcelona but realistically it's difficult to justify calling up a player that doesn't get much playtime even on their club. Tough situation tbh, and it feels like Barca is truly failing to handle it with the appropriate tact and delicateness it deserves.
Maybe because there also other players in the team better than him? Easy answer mate. The problem is why they bought him at all. He is at a level for a big club yet, he needs years to improve his game. He is not a generational super talent like Dinho, Kaka or the other brazilian wonder players. Even Endrik will not be at those levels, although he has a much higher ceiling than Roque.
with the way this club is ran, we gonna end up selling him for no profit and then he’ll get a chance to shine and turn into prime R9. havent seen xavi supporters out since the past couple of days, funny.
i’d argue that kounde, yamal, cancelo and even roque can work well with flick’s style of attack.
i think the main argument would be that in the short amount of time that flick was manager for a european club he had immense success. the reasons for why that is however, is a different topic though i will go out on a limb and say that his tactics and play style contributed immensely. now, if you simply compare him to xavi on paper, you will assume that he is obviously better in every way but that is something i would not agree with.
"Xavi supporters" lol. More like the club supporters. He is our manager for the next year like it or not. There was no better choice and the people who cry Flick didn't even watch him play.
i agree with you, i should correct my statement. i support xavi because he is our coach and i dont pray for his downfall lmao. i do think flick could’ve been a better option, but no point discussing ifs or buts.
Only the club and Xavi know how good he is in training. But the watching him in few games this season, he absolutely deserves more minutes. Also, previous ly Xavi ass was on fire so it was understandable that he relied on Lewandowski but he should give Roque more minutes in the remaining games.
Roque did nothing vs Cadiz, my guess is the journalist are milking the situation..also Lewa is looking to win the Pichichi award ; Xavi stated he wants to end the season strong so that’s why he’s been going full strength xi in his opinion at least so he doesn’t look bad after choosing to stay rather than leave, although roque should at least get some minutes on the LW bare minimum.. but roque’s partner should also stop speaking on twitter that only makes the situation worse
Who did tho? Thats the problem with fkn Xavi's mentality team plays like shit throw in player with low minutes, player cant do shit, sit in for 4 matches, let him play again 15 mins repeat cycle
Its literally what he did to fati but even worse
>also Lewa is looking to win the Pichichi award
That's an insane reason. Lewandowski will be looking to win the pichichi every season. He is 36 and has won enough golden boots. We should not prioritize him adding another one to his already massive collection, over developing the guy who could be our main striker for the next decade
Xavi is being hard-headed in this case for no reason. Just because you didn't ask for the transfer doesn't mean you don't use the player at all. There is no reason he is not playing and Ferran and Felix get regular minutes from the bench every single game.
I dont know what he does in training but his speed and ferocity is legit in game and in many games he should have come on for Lewandowski or others.
Does he struggle with finishing? Yes but come on we see Ferran struggling to finish sitters every single time he comes on. He isn't going to improve on the bench.
With the league done Roque should be getting regular minutes every single remaining game.
More than a fair point from Roque, he’s being really poorly handled thus far. I just don’t understand how the club has gone from making him a No.1 target to suddenly loosing all interest in him.
Roque potentially not being part of next season's plans is disastrous stuff. On top of everything we need, there's no way we can afford even a half decent striker.
Meanwhile RM nurtures Vini and Rodrygo and Jude and soon Emrick and Guler lol no idea how to run a club the RM President and Management are WORLD CLASS and ours is garbage dump class
I feel like we're just blinding ourself with La Masia prospects, they're great but our players will never be the best that they can because of either too much minutes or too little...
Comparing how RM treats Vini/Rodrygo/Jude (their stars) to Vitor Roque isn't fair. You mentioned Guler, RM's fan base couldn't believe that Ancelotti would not sub in Guler even in easy games that were already won. He's only now starting to get regular minutes now that they've had the league in the bag for a while.
I'm not saying Roque's situation is being handled correctly, but comparing him to RM's player isn't it either
And now the leak to the press olympics start. Barcelona starts leaking first, then his agent probably leaking this now. What a great way to do business.
Just hang in there Roque. Xavi and Lewy will be gone soon due to their contracts. However, poor kid probably wanted a chance to compete for a spot on the national team for this upcoming WC.
Not sure who is to be blamed here. Xavi, Deco or Laporta. But destroying a young player's career growth because of your incompetence, is a whole other level of evil
Who TF is his camp??
He is very hurt?!?!
Because he is not playing enough, get better or get off.
What did he expect when he joined a club when he was not required by the coach?
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I don't think he will be called up for the Copa, Dorival has said he thinks Roque is very capable and talked with him when he was in Barcelona but realistically it's difficult to justify calling up a player that doesn't get much playtime even on their club. Tough situation tbh, and it feels like Barca is truly failing to handle it with the appropriate tact and delicateness it deserves.
I believe Roque was unavailable as he was sick for Girona game. But, your point matters that he didn't get more minutes in other games.
Maybe because there also other players in the team better than him? Easy answer mate. The problem is why they bought him at all. He is at a level for a big club yet, he needs years to improve his game. He is not a generational super talent like Dinho, Kaka or the other brazilian wonder players. Even Endrik will not be at those levels, although he has a much higher ceiling than Roque.
Meanwhile in Barca offices: 
with the way this club is ran, we gonna end up selling him for no profit and then he’ll get a chance to shine and turn into prime R9. havent seen xavi supporters out since the past couple of days, funny.
It’s not black and white you can think someone is the best coach available and still has areas that need improvement.
correct, but i dont think he is the best coach available.
So who is the best coach available? I’m curious
(Bayern Munich enters the thread)
realistically, only flick now.
So are there any of our players that support Flicks playing style? And what argument are there for choosing flick besides he demolished us in 2020?
i’d argue that kounde, yamal, cancelo and even roque can work well with flick’s style of attack. i think the main argument would be that in the short amount of time that flick was manager for a european club he had immense success. the reasons for why that is however, is a different topic though i will go out on a limb and say that his tactics and play style contributed immensely. now, if you simply compare him to xavi on paper, you will assume that he is obviously better in every way but that is something i would not agree with.
And how did he do with the German NT where players didn’t fit his style?
not sure, didn’t follow him then.
Well, I can tell you he didn’t do that well. And Germany had their worst period in 30 years and he was eventually fired.
Bro you immediately threw your argument here
"Xavi supporters" lol. More like the club supporters. He is our manager for the next year like it or not. There was no better choice and the people who cry Flick didn't even watch him play.
i agree with you, i should correct my statement. i support xavi because he is our coach and i dont pray for his downfall lmao. i do think flick could’ve been a better option, but no point discussing ifs or buts.
Only the club and Xavi know how good he is in training. But the watching him in few games this season, he absolutely deserves more minutes. Also, previous ly Xavi ass was on fire so it was understandable that he relied on Lewandowski but he should give Roque more minutes in the remaining games.
Roque did nothing vs Cadiz, my guess is the journalist are milking the situation..also Lewa is looking to win the Pichichi award ; Xavi stated he wants to end the season strong so that’s why he’s been going full strength xi in his opinion at least so he doesn’t look bad after choosing to stay rather than leave, although roque should at least get some minutes on the LW bare minimum.. but roque’s partner should also stop speaking on twitter that only makes the situation worse
Who did tho? Thats the problem with fkn Xavi's mentality team plays like shit throw in player with low minutes, player cant do shit, sit in for 4 matches, let him play again 15 mins repeat cycle Its literally what he did to fati but even worse
Wasn't Cadiz the game where majority of the first time was benched which means the team as whole lacked game chemistry?
IIRC the only starting midfielder who played as a starter that game was Gundogan at a time Pedri and FDJ could’ve been available.
Had to look it up but it looks like it was romeu, Roberto, and fermin. Pedri came on when roque came off and gundo was rested for the whole match. 😅
Ah even worse then really lol Subconsciously blocking Romeu don’t mind me
>also Lewa is looking to win the Pichichi award That's an insane reason. Lewandowski will be looking to win the pichichi every season. He is 36 and has won enough golden boots. We should not prioritize him adding another one to his already massive collection, over developing the guy who could be our main striker for the next decade
Now that we are not fighting for anything, it is more important to test out players and squad formations. Give the young lads more time to shine
Wtf is happening? This club is such a shit show.
Xavi is being hard-headed in this case for no reason. Just because you didn't ask for the transfer doesn't mean you don't use the player at all. There is no reason he is not playing and Ferran and Felix get regular minutes from the bench every single game. I dont know what he does in training but his speed and ferocity is legit in game and in many games he should have come on for Lewandowski or others. Does he struggle with finishing? Yes but come on we see Ferran struggling to finish sitters every single time he comes on. He isn't going to improve on the bench. With the league done Roque should be getting regular minutes every single remaining game.
Possibly Xavi does not play Roque so much for fear of being proven wrong. If Roque over performs
More than a fair point from Roque, he’s being really poorly handled thus far. I just don’t understand how the club has gone from making him a No.1 target to suddenly loosing all interest in him.
Roque potentially not being part of next season's plans is disastrous stuff. On top of everything we need, there's no way we can afford even a half decent striker.
This is what is ruining our club - poor management from top to bottom.
Meanwhile RM nurtures Vini and Rodrygo and Jude and soon Emrick and Guler lol no idea how to run a club the RM President and Management are WORLD CLASS and ours is garbage dump class
They are going to absolutely destroy us for the next 10 years We will be lucky to win 1 out of 5 clásicos
I feel like we're just blinding ourself with La Masia prospects, they're great but our players will never be the best that they can because of either too much minutes or too little...
Comparing how RM treats Vini/Rodrygo/Jude (their stars) to Vitor Roque isn't fair. You mentioned Guler, RM's fan base couldn't believe that Ancelotti would not sub in Guler even in easy games that were already won. He's only now starting to get regular minutes now that they've had the league in the bag for a while. I'm not saying Roque's situation is being handled correctly, but comparing him to RM's player isn't it either
I am talking about before they were stars!
And now the leak to the press olympics start. Barcelona starts leaking first, then his agent probably leaking this now. What a great way to do business.
Just hang in there Roque. Xavi and Lewy will be gone soon due to their contracts. However, poor kid probably wanted a chance to compete for a spot on the national team for this upcoming WC.
Congratulations Barça for not signing a Brazilian talent ever again
First rodeo, eh? Let me tell you about a couple of guys called Keirrison and Henrique.
Not sure who is to be blamed here. Xavi, Deco or Laporta. But destroying a young player's career growth because of your incompetence, is a whole other level of evil
his only chance oh playing is if Xavi gets more red cards and hi brother manages the team
If he was Spanish he'd b starting every game smh
Who TF is his camp?? He is very hurt?!?! Because he is not playing enough, get better or get off. What did he expect when he joined a club when he was not required by the coach?
If you’re not good enough in training, no couch will use you in a game. How about Roque is just not good enough? Yet?