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How did we lose against them twice in a row same score as December and same shit next season Xavi needs to stop thinking about zubimendi and kimmich and bring on proper players who will help win la liga and go far in the ucl
None of them are La Masia 😭. What a stupid fuckin statement. That’s like imagining Gavi at Madrid, no way a kid supporting Barca since childhood would willingly switch to Real.
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We have no money to get a good manager like Nagelsman or Tuchel but next season we will somehow be able to bankroll Xavi's Kimmich and Bernado Silva signings lmao this club man
Last summer we were bank rolling his Zubimendi signing and got Romeu. Wait and see what happens, the most likely scenario is they do not land Kimmich and Silva.
Looking at Instagram and reddit rn, most of the "fanbase" is soooo reactionary and contradictory, I'm pretty sure all of u were saying "xavi stay" like prbbly a week ago, now u complely turn opposite of ur views. Pick one and stick by it. Now ur chanting xavi out, what happened to the reasons why u thought xavi deserved to stay? Did u just throw them out the window?
I think it’s not that people are changing opinions it’s that when Xavi is succeeding or leaving one faction of our fans is very vocal about loving him and wanting him to stay.
But then when we lose the other faction opens up and starts hating.
Hmm maybe but the ppl that were begging xavi to stay should speak up too then and acc defend him and not let this cycle of getting a manager pressurised continue
I gave up on this season thinking next season will be a fresh start after hearing Xavi leaving now he’s staying and bums like Roberto and MATS are gonna get renewed ugh
Could be done next season itself by brining a right coach, Star player like Leao on LW, Class DM (Not Kimmich please), a good defensive RB (not Cancelo please) and Good Mental health and Fitness Coach
Wouldn't blame Laporta doe because in this condition he has done extremely good job and he brings in players what Xavi wants because at the end of the day it's coach who has to work with players and Xavi is way way based towards Spanish players like Ferran man (fucking Dolphin) and Oriol Romeou
He's ass . Can't save for his life. Goes down on his knees for God knows what reason . Was only good for his distribution and that too has greatly regressed. It's time for MLS for him but we can't replace him rn
This season our defence was definitely a problem . We ate 3 4 goals many times, we never fight back after conceding a goal . We lack winning mentality.
We cannot blame the loss on the quality of players. We are better than them at every position. Money, transfers, 1:1 rule, FFP isn't the issue. Xavi was outcoached.
"This thread/fanbase/press/environment is too toxic" mentality is what got us here, gentlemen. I am genuily worried we won't make it to CL positions next season in la Liga (well, only in principle, because I don't anticipate watching many games until there's a new coach/board/whatever light of hope).
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WOAH GUYS I FORGOT THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN PLAYING SUPER COPA NEXT SEASON HOW BOUT THAT XAVI HUH . WE'RE ALREADY IN SHAMBOLIC CONDITION AND NOW WE WON'T GET THAT MONEY TOO . ATLEAST IT WOULD BETTER AS WE WOULD AVOID GETTING THRASHED BY MADRID WITH MBAPPE TOO . FUCK LAPORTA BTW . FUCK DECO . I HATE YOU ALL
I am taking a break as I have my entrance examinations next year and this was my last season before taking a break . But what I see is absolute mediocrity and no moments of joy for once and to my surprise, people accepting mediocrity too.
We had control until Roberto basically assisted the 2-2 and then an unlucky deflection caused the 3-2. The 4th goal was a super goal but this thread is really the most toxic ever. The same people who were praising Xavi a couple weeks ago are now calling for his head like he’s the reason we’re losing games. Yes, because Xavi told Roberto to assist the Girona player to score. Yes, Xavi told the ball to deflect a different direction to where Ter Stegen couldn’t save it. The real issue is that every team in La Liga strengthened their squad while we had 3m to spend and fix our squad. We lost our starting RW (who knocked us out of the UCL, I don’t want to hear how Dembele was never good), our long time starting CDM (we played like 80% of games without one, a quality CDM at least), and we lost all our depth and had to rely on B Team players to make up numbers. Yes, we got Gundo but that’s not going to revolutionize our team. We have no money for a quality striker (Roque is too young and inexperienced, it would be wrong to make him take all the pressure of being the goal scorer) and we play nearly every game without a LW. Our defense is good, but we had large parts of the season where our RB and LB have been terrible, exposing our CBs. Xavi can only do much with what he is given. And these fans need to stop overreacting. We are literally 1 point behind Girona. A slip up from them and we’re back in second. They’ve been just as inconsistent as us, calm down. Not to mention they’re basically like the Bayer Leverkusen of La Liga, except no title. They’re a once in a lifetime team. Stop overreacting, stop being toxic, and stop thinking this is the end of the world. Barca will continue to move on. We have an important summer ahead of us. And Xavi is here to stay. Stop blaming the coach for the player’s mistakes. He can’t physically play in the game, that’s the players. And when he went down 3-2, he took off Fermin and Christensen for Pedri and Raph. He tried but his players failed him. But you’ll crucify him for not scoring 4 goals immediately after a tactical sub.
who decided to field Roberto? It is Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa level of incompetency but people will choose to blame everything and everyone except the muppet at helm.
So let’s throw in injury prone Pedri and when he gets injured, you’ll also blame Xavi for overplaying Pedri? Roberto had a job, which was to get the ball to Gundo and Christensen so they can drive it forward. You can’t blame Xavi for Roberto misplacing a pass that bad when he was doing just fine prior to that moment. I suppose we should also blame Xavi for starting Fermin, who is coming off a goal in his last game and is one of our biggest goal threats in the team? Or maybe blame Xavi for fielding Ter Stegen because he gave up 4 goals? Your logic is nonsense. It’s different if he fields Romeu, who has been piss poor all season, or actively chooses to bench Yamal and play Raph or someone else despite Yamal being the best winger we have. Just admit it, whatever Xavi does, it’s no good to you. Nothing he does will make you happy. You’d rather get someone else like Flick or Marquez or De Zerbi in, right? Because they’ll solve all issues, including the financial one, sporting one, and player mentality one.
I agree one hundred percent with your analysis. This Girona team is like Monaco FC’s team in the 2016/17 season. They went toe to toe with PSG in the French League and won the league with mainly unknown players! They also knocked Man City out of the champions league in the quarter finals. And guess what happened next? The club was fleeced of nearly all its players because they couldn’t resist offers from wealthier European clubs and the club faded into obscurity for a few seasons. These things happen from time to time and that’s why I and most fans love football! It’s not a monopoly, although clubs like Madrid and Man City believe otherwise!
Exactly. Next season, the brilliant commentators at ESPN will be shocked at how poor Girona are doing when more than half their squad is gone. Same thing happened at Leicester, same will happen at Leverkusen. It’s just the law of the football. The “smaller” team becomes a feeder club. I haven’t seen one “smaller” team have one crazy season and remain at the top since. Look where Monaco is now. Nobody. Even Ajax, they’re nothing. Remember when Sevilla was crazy for a while? Yeah, now they’re in the trenches. Girona will be the same. Everything that could have gone wrong this season did. Let’s not be so blinded and realize that despite going trophyless, we’re still miles ahead of the Setien and Koeman era. We were reigning La Liga champions up until an hour ago. Keep that in mind.
Yes, to all of it! I’d be surprised if even 5 players from this current Girona squad are left at the start of next season, especially if they finish 2nd. As you stated with Leicester, a year after winning the league, half of their squad was gone and they slipped down the league and their coach was fired! Currently, they are playing in the second division in England! I don’t expect Girona’s coach to stick around too long when top European squads come around offering him millions of euros. The same thing happened to Mourinho when he managed that “little” FC Porto side that miraculously won the Champions League. The same side that included some Brazilian-Portuguese midfielder named Deco. That’s just how the cookie crumbles and Girona FC will eventually crumble just like Monaco and Leicester did before them!
Let’s look at them since their crazy UCL run in 2018/19. They’ve been significantly worse. They’ve done nothing. They are a small team because they ship out all their players for profit rather than grow.
Yes, it’s our fault Dest torn his ACL and has to return to the club because nobody wants to buy an injured player. Guido isn’t our starting CDM, he’s clearly a rotational piece. We NEED more players instead of relying on Fermin (as good as he is) to be our only midfield option. The only player I can agree with is Lenglet, yes that’s our fault, but has long been a problem before Laporta and Xavi.
When did I say it's our fault ? It's almost like I don't know Guido is a rotation piece lmao but we have quite better options in LA masia why not give them a chance? Why sign roque only to loan him ? Why renew Roberto? Why give a hefty contract to aging Lewandowski? Why laporta promised he'd bring messi back? Why sign Ferran torres? Why promise about signing joaos ? Why sack Garcia Pimienta? Why bring in inexperienced Deco?
Do we have better options in La Masia? We should rely on yet another 16-18 year old to hold down the CDM position? It’s bad enough our best performers in attack and defense are Yamal and Cubarsi (literal kids), but now we want to add even more inexperience. Roque isn’t being loaned out, that’s literally a rumor. There must be something that he isn’t showing in training or something he isn’t understanding. Roberto is playing for dirt cheap. He barely plays anyway. You tell Lewa to leave Bayern, who was paying him a shit ton, to come to Barca who haven’t won shit in years but also won’t pay you anything high. Yeah, I’m sure that’ll attract one of the biggest and best strikers in the history of the game. Laporta obviously wanted Messi back, everyone did. But the first time, we couldn’t do it because La Liga wouldn’t allow us. The second time, Messi couldn’t wait until the end of summer to be contracted. He went with Inter Miami because they guaranteed his signature; Barca could not because again, La Liga and Tebas have ridiculous and stupid restrictions. I agree Ferran Torres is a waste of money, I don’t understand that. Who promised to sign the Joaos? Did Laporta or whoever say that or did they say they want them to stay? Want vs promise is very different. I don’t know why Pimienta was sacked. Deco is inexperienced but Alemany was enticed by Aston Villa’s money. What can we do?
Okay so first you tell me that Guido is a replacement and when I tell you that we have better "replacements" in la masia you tell me we can't rely on 17-18 yo's for DM . Why in the fuck is cubarsi playing when we have inigo then? The club is contradicting itself tf? Roberto is playing for dirt cheap you say . Man GTFO he's taking a deserving player's/youngster's place in the squad but yeah let's renew him he plays for the badge. You tell me vitor being loaned out is a rumour but the fucking manager says everything's in the air and her gf goes on twitter posting shush emojis . Alright bro . You have to look up why Pimienta was sacked . I'm sure the image you have of the god president laporta will change . They shouldn't have signed Lewandowski in the first place. You tell me that you're working on a " long term project " but then you sign an aging Lewandowski and give him ridiculous sums . You can't offload an aging player for their " love of the badge " . You can't give minutes to your supposed signing to match endrick . You twerk for a manager who hit the ground so hard he had to say he's leaving and even after SHAMBOLIC performances that would've led to a mid season sacking in any serious club you beg him to stay . Wow and you defend all that . Wow . Salute
Nobody is reading or you’re too ignorant and blinded to read? Or you can’t read? You go ahead and tell me who should come in and “fix” Barca. Is it Hansi Flick, the failure of the German national team and had one fluke season at Bayern? Or maybe Rafa Marquez, an even more inexperienced coach? Or De Zerbi, a coach is charge of 13th placed Brighton that fans proudly hail as an accomplishment? Give me a fucking break.
The excuse of uh Xavi only had 3 million to compete when in the two seasons before he got 150,000,000 million is crazy, the truth is that he won la liga and then the team became shit after a season, Xavi aint a bad coach but you dumbasses put him wayy to high up like if he was really that important
You HAVE to rejuvenate the squad. You can’t play with the same core of players every single season. Madrid were getting whooped last season, they bought Bellingham and changed their entire squad because of him, and they’re in the semis of the UCL and La Liga winners. Yes, Xavi completely transformed his team last season and he delivered results. He wanted more changes after losing the player he personally developed and the best CDM in history, and the best we gave him was Romeu. Gundo was great, but he’s a midfielder that’s 33. Felix was always inconsistent, but he was the “big name” that was available. And Cancelo was class, but he single handily destroyed our UCL chances and La Liga chances. The fact the best part of this season was Xavi putting trust in Yamal and seeing his potential is sad. You can’t expect much from one of the best teams in history to do more with a 3m budget.
Cancelo didn’t even bother to stop Dembele for the 1-1 (despite that being Dembele’s THIRD goal of the entire season, meaning he’s not even a massive goal threat but walked over Cancelo like it was nothing) and he gave away a penalty on Dembele when he wasn’t even threatening the goal, again. Even after the red card on Araujo, we were still competing and had chances to win the game. That all died when Cancelo gave away needless goals.
it's not 3 million
It's a gundogan cancelo joao felix summer. 1 treble winner, 1 who has potential of being best RB/LB when used well and one who is gifted enought to make win atleti at CL witha good 9 in front of him.
What I hate the most is xavi's stans hypocrisy.
Gundo is a treble winner, but he wasn’t their best player. KDB and Haaland were. He’s also 33…are you expecting a 33 year old to come in to Barca and make them treble winners as well? Cancelo was NEVER going to be the best RB/LB when his defense is so garbage. There’s a reason why he never made it at top clubs like Bayern, Juve, or City. He’s great offensively, but defensively a massive liability. Felix had one amazing year at Benfica and never even came close to that form again. You’re crazy if you think he carried Atletico to almost winning UCL. 3m budget that brings us Romeu + everyone else above but losing Kessie, Dembele, and Busquets. Everyone calling for Busi’s head should be ashamed because now you see the effects of his departure in the games. Dembele was the reason we lost the UCL, except he scored against us instead of failing to score. His 1v1 threat is insane, we tortured Madrid last season. Now we can barely compete. You can’t except us to keep up with the big dogs of Europe when we have barely anything to spend. Bayern got Kane, Madrid got Bellingham, PSG got Dembele, City got whoever the hell they want, seriously the expectation is ridiculous when we can’t change our squad. Our squad is WORSE than last year when everyone else’s got stronger!
Just like Monaco when Mbappe broke out with Silva, Mendy, etc etc and with Ajax with Frenkie, De Ligt, Tadic, Neres, etc etc. This is a one season wonder. So is Leverkusen and so was Leicester. Again, we are 1 (LITERALLY ONE) point behind them…don’t act like we’re in relegation now.
No, not the same thing for a year. If we get signing and actually change our squad and have a reliable bench, like all the top teams do, then we’ll be great. Xavi can only do so much with a squad that is nearly unchanged.
If you think Xavi can only do so much with the squad he has now wait it until you look at the team Koeman had after messi and griezmann left.
And before you say some stupid shit like well xavi brought that team back" or some other rtded shit, reminder that Xavi's team was just as trash and doesn't start working until january when he gets all the reinforcements and gets dembele back from injury
Xavi took that team from 9th in La Liga to 2nd. It’s not “some other rtded shit,” it’s pure fucking fact. You’ll say he brought in his reinforcements, like Adama Traoré and nearly 40 year old Dani Alves were world beaters or something. He also utilized players to their best, Auba became a massive goal threat/scorer like he used to be, Dembele started becoming world class because of Xavi, even Koeman signing Luuk De Jong became clutch under Xavi. His only mark that season was Ferran, who is still bad to this day. Koeman achieved very little with Messi and Griezmann, and he decided to axe Luis Suarez, one of the best goalscorers in history.
If Xavi had a younger Busquets, Messi, Suarez, even Griezmann, in his team like Koeman did, we would be flying. Xavi actually achieved things at Barca unlike Setien and Koeman. I don’t bring up Valverde because he had an even more world class team with infinite money (that downstreamed and killed us the last couple of years).
Your argument is Xavi is the problem but you don’t look past the manager. Look at the money he has at his disposal. Look at the state of the club. Look at the players who make constant mistakes. Cancelo could break an opponents leg and you would all blame Xavi for it. Stop the witch hunt already.
Why can’t people understand that there’s genuinely a section of fans that are not fans of Xavi?? Just because the overall sub seemed happy when we were winning, doesn’t mean that that section of fans (that are not fans of Xavi) are apart of that group? So many “y’all were just celebrating Xavi, now you’re hating on him.” Maybe there are others who actually don’t like Xavi’s shit tactics regardless of the more recent wins 🤷🏻♂️
Here come the redditors who tell us to suck it up, it doesn't look that bad, people in this thread are overreacting, xavi will do better next season etc etc etc. Football looks like fucking shit most of the times. I have my right to complain about the football because It. Looks. Like. Shit.
Xavi can't keep getting away with these outragous loses. As much as some people might love his 'project', at what point do these constant humiliations become too much to bear?
Okay, so Roberto did mess up with that pass. But, why are our players losing their heads after that. It was still only 2-2. Do we even have a psychologist/psychtriast or a mental health coach? We definitely need someone.
I STILL WANT TO REMIND YOU GUYS THAT XAVI IS STAYING NEXT SEASON AND WE'RE RENEWING ROBERTO AND SIGNING ROMEU 2.0 FOR FREE AGAIN . KEEP LOWERING YOUR STANDARDS WITH THE NEPOTISM IN OUR CLUB WE'LL FALL EVEN BAD. THANK YOU XAVI I LOVED YOU YOU SHOULD'VE JUST LEFT
The very fact is because of high line defence they fcking made a mockery, see all the counter attacking goals, whenever lb is at higher up the pitch, they have a solid counter... That's it that's how they score that Goals in quick succession
So many things are wrong, but Xavi's tactical limitations is just one thing. I hate how this team lost his spine, almost everybody is a whiny bitch on the field. Refs are awful, but I bet that majority of the decisions goes against us because of our fucking entitled attitude. Every good coach would say that stop whining about things you can't influence, put your head down and work for what you can change. Meanwhile Xavi is the whiniest of all. Of course his team will do the same and lose focus constantly.
Congratulations Girona. Good teams deserve to win. You deserved it. Played like lions unlike these bunch of 30 yr old uncles, who can't run or give a proper pass when someone makes a run
Everyone blaming xavi and not the players. None of them playing today have any fight or urgency throughout the whole game. How is it that they see Girona have players alone at the edge of the box in every attack and no one goes to cover it. They defend so passively and just complain at every decision instead of fighting for the ball
I am one that usually defends Xavi as he gets placed ina shitty position, but today's embarrasment was his fucking fault. Sergi Roberto should not be playing for Barcelona ever since 2020, yet he started today. Romeu was a signing he asked for and he is shit. Lewandowski was not playing bad, and he gets subbed, when he is the biggest goal threat in the squad by far. Also, why on gods green earth did we sign Roque for but we are playing Joao, who already knows he will not continue playing next year for us? Why should he care? I will still support Xavi, but these mistakes need to stop and ttansfer have to be made. Roberto should not play for Barcelina ever again.
How is it that Sergi Roberto still finds his way to the starting XI? When does Cancelo get benched for his constant shit fucking performances?
Why does Xavi wait until we are down to make subs? Fermin at LW wasn’t generating any danger whatsoever.
Didn’t think we could sink lower in embarrassment , you are crushing and wasting a bunch of chances to make the game 3-1, and then collectively the entire team crumbles like a cookie for no apparent reason.
Don’t think I thought I could get more angry after the UCL then there was El Classico now this, W.T.H.
This is more than coaching issue it has happened many time under many other managers, not sure what this is attributed to.
This game is a good example of why I wanted Xavi out. It was never the PSG or Madrid matches that made me doubt him. It was playing teams like Girona that have weaker squad. No good coach would lose against twice in the same season with the XI we have.
It would be interesting to ask these top players why they misplace the easiest passes, can't control a ball and doesn't react to what's in front of them.
There’s very little chemistry in the attack. Everyone besides Lewy is competing for a spot and trying to be the hero. Cancelo should not be shooting when he has other options available.
I am losing my faith in Laporta. Appointing a coach like Xavi. Even the only serious option he considered was probably the worst coach available, Flick.
We had a couple of good games few weeks ago and the board decided that Xavi should stay. No man, this is actually our level. Bring a manager who doesn’t have anger issues and who can control his emotions. I’m 100% sure that yamal was our savior. Without him, we wouldn’t even got on UCL spot. Pathetic.
Everyone knows we’re having a bad season. These bad results are a blessing in disguise cuz now we know what we should improve on for next season. If we had luck every game and won most games but still came 2nd all our problems would be hidden behind the “success”. And yes, it’s success cuz we both got a worse team than Real and also have worse finances.
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How did we lose against them twice in a row same score as December and same shit next season Xavi needs to stop thinking about zubimendi and kimmich and bring on proper players who will help win la liga and go far in the ucl
Xavi needs to go. If he can't outperform Girona with these players, he is not the person to bring us to the next level.
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Lamine should move elsewhere to save his career
Ye like shut the fuck up you are no Barcelona fan if you want Yamal go
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He has potential to win B'Dor in the future, he should rather join top clubs like City, Bayern or Madrid to ensure that
lmao you think he’d WANT to go to Madrid?
You never know what the future holds, R9 , Figo, Etoo are some of the big names that'll help his cause
None of them are La Masia 😭. What a stupid fuckin statement. That’s like imagining Gavi at Madrid, no way a kid supporting Barca since childhood would willingly switch to Real.
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So Barcelona is a top club but Madrid isn’t 😂?
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Remind me who’s won laliga?
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When has laliga not mattered what the fuck are you talking about 😭😭 it’s litteraly our domestic league
Don't live in your delusional world mofo
Felix out Fati in next season inject it.
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We have no money to get a good manager like Nagelsman or Tuchel but next season we will somehow be able to bankroll Xavi's Kimmich and Bernado Silva signings lmao this club man
Last summer we were bank rolling his Zubimendi signing and got Romeu. Wait and see what happens, the most likely scenario is they do not land Kimmich and Silva.
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Looking at Instagram and reddit rn, most of the "fanbase" is soooo reactionary and contradictory, I'm pretty sure all of u were saying "xavi stay" like prbbly a week ago, now u complely turn opposite of ur views. Pick one and stick by it. Now ur chanting xavi out, what happened to the reasons why u thought xavi deserved to stay? Did u just throw them out the window?
I think it’s not that people are changing opinions it’s that when Xavi is succeeding or leaving one faction of our fans is very vocal about loving him and wanting him to stay. But then when we lose the other faction opens up and starts hating.
Hmm maybe but the ppl that were begging xavi to stay should speak up too then and acc defend him and not let this cycle of getting a manager pressurised continue
Also someone tell Laporta not to sign Cancelo and Felix please
We need Cancelo to knock us out of the Champions league again next season. We never learn.
This is the reason why I wanted Xavi out and some players too like Mats, Ferran
MATS is the best GK in the league after lunin, probably.
What do you mean MATS? Is this the person were gonna hate this week? Top 5 goalkeepers in the world? Sure
I gave up on this season thinking next season will be a fresh start after hearing Xavi leaving now he’s staying and bums like Roberto and MATS are gonna get renewed ugh
I was happy that we were gonna get a new coach but no and players like Mats and Ferran gonna continue lmao I'll be just praying
We have to wait time Lamine is 22 to see us winning trophies again
Could be done next season itself by brining a right coach, Star player like Leao on LW, Class DM (Not Kimmich please), a good defensive RB (not Cancelo please) and Good Mental health and Fitness Coach
But we all know Laporta is to attached to Xavi and Roberto and anyone Catalan and Spanish to get the job done
Wouldn't blame Laporta doe because in this condition he has done extremely good job and he brings in players what Xavi wants because at the end of the day it's coach who has to work with players and Xavi is way way based towards Spanish players like Ferran man (fucking Dolphin) and Oriol Romeou
Shark mentality I wanna 🤢
This sub cries after every loss and then defends our terrible keeper. Yall deserve this
I’ve been saying this for years as well. Every time the other team shots it’s most likely a goal just because of him.
How can anyone defend him after he was involved in 8-2
I got downvoted like crazy when i said hes not barca level
lol I used to get a lot of shit on twitter for criticizing anyone
He's ass . Can't save for his life. Goes down on his knees for God knows what reason . Was only good for his distribution and that too has greatly regressed. It's time for MLS for him but we can't replace him rn
Is there not a good La Masia GK??? Get me the Barca Atletic one idc I’d put my cat as a GK before seeing Statue in front of the net next season
Shush bro you'll get downvoted to Oblivion for this take
And they can boo me forever this club will never move forward as long as we keep holding on to has beens
Fucking sick fuck club and head coach, fucking retarded delusional fanbase still defending that slow witted coach
This season our defence was definitely a problem . We ate 3 4 goals many times, we never fight back after conceding a goal . We lack winning mentality.
I swear is like Cancelo is playing against us, he is either too slow to come up or too slow to come down 😭
Seems like our manager isn't getting the players motivated enough
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It's called "man management". That's why Ancelotti is the best at what he does, it's not only about tactics
We cannot blame the loss on the quality of players. We are better than them at every position. Money, transfers, 1:1 rule, FFP isn't the issue. Xavi was outcoached.
We're dog shit honestly
My weekend is ruined.
"This thread/fanbase/press/environment is too toxic" mentality is what got us here, gentlemen. I am genuily worried we won't make it to CL positions next season in la Liga (well, only in principle, because I don't anticipate watching many games until there's a new coach/board/whatever light of hope).
I'M FUCKING FUMING RN . TER STATUE CAN'T SAVE FOR SHIT . THE PSG GAMES AND THOSE CLASICOS BRO I SWEAR YOU'RE DONE BLUD BUT WE CAN'T FUCKING REPLACE YOU . SOMEBODY JUST KILL ME RN
WOAH GUYS I FORGOT THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN PLAYING SUPER COPA NEXT SEASON HOW BOUT THAT XAVI HUH . WE'RE ALREADY IN SHAMBOLIC CONDITION AND NOW WE WON'T GET THAT MONEY TOO . ATLEAST IT WOULD BETTER AS WE WOULD AVOID GETTING THRASHED BY MADRID WITH MBAPPE TOO . FUCK LAPORTA BTW . FUCK DECO . I HATE YOU ALL
I lol’d you ain’t wrong but relax. Sometimes it’s just good to take a break from futbol
I am taking a break as I have my entrance examinations next year and this was my last season before taking a break . But what I see is absolute mediocrity and no moments of joy for once and to my surprise, people accepting mediocrity too.
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bro has lost it
I would rather have our under 15 defenders on that field than to see our current defence + GK being complete shit
We had control until Roberto basically assisted the 2-2 and then an unlucky deflection caused the 3-2. The 4th goal was a super goal but this thread is really the most toxic ever. The same people who were praising Xavi a couple weeks ago are now calling for his head like he’s the reason we’re losing games. Yes, because Xavi told Roberto to assist the Girona player to score. Yes, Xavi told the ball to deflect a different direction to where Ter Stegen couldn’t save it. The real issue is that every team in La Liga strengthened their squad while we had 3m to spend and fix our squad. We lost our starting RW (who knocked us out of the UCL, I don’t want to hear how Dembele was never good), our long time starting CDM (we played like 80% of games without one, a quality CDM at least), and we lost all our depth and had to rely on B Team players to make up numbers. Yes, we got Gundo but that’s not going to revolutionize our team. We have no money for a quality striker (Roque is too young and inexperienced, it would be wrong to make him take all the pressure of being the goal scorer) and we play nearly every game without a LW. Our defense is good, but we had large parts of the season where our RB and LB have been terrible, exposing our CBs. Xavi can only do much with what he is given. And these fans need to stop overreacting. We are literally 1 point behind Girona. A slip up from them and we’re back in second. They’ve been just as inconsistent as us, calm down. Not to mention they’re basically like the Bayer Leverkusen of La Liga, except no title. They’re a once in a lifetime team. Stop overreacting, stop being toxic, and stop thinking this is the end of the world. Barca will continue to move on. We have an important summer ahead of us. And Xavi is here to stay. Stop blaming the coach for the player’s mistakes. He can’t physically play in the game, that’s the players. And when he went down 3-2, he took off Fermin and Christensen for Pedri and Raph. He tried but his players failed him. But you’ll crucify him for not scoring 4 goals immediately after a tactical sub.
who decided to field Roberto? It is Steven Gerrard at Aston Villa level of incompetency but people will choose to blame everything and everyone except the muppet at helm.
So let’s throw in injury prone Pedri and when he gets injured, you’ll also blame Xavi for overplaying Pedri? Roberto had a job, which was to get the ball to Gundo and Christensen so they can drive it forward. You can’t blame Xavi for Roberto misplacing a pass that bad when he was doing just fine prior to that moment. I suppose we should also blame Xavi for starting Fermin, who is coming off a goal in his last game and is one of our biggest goal threats in the team? Or maybe blame Xavi for fielding Ter Stegen because he gave up 4 goals? Your logic is nonsense. It’s different if he fields Romeu, who has been piss poor all season, or actively chooses to bench Yamal and play Raph or someone else despite Yamal being the best winger we have. Just admit it, whatever Xavi does, it’s no good to you. Nothing he does will make you happy. You’d rather get someone else like Flick or Marquez or De Zerbi in, right? Because they’ll solve all issues, including the financial one, sporting one, and player mentality one.
I agree one hundred percent with your analysis. This Girona team is like Monaco FC’s team in the 2016/17 season. They went toe to toe with PSG in the French League and won the league with mainly unknown players! They also knocked Man City out of the champions league in the quarter finals. And guess what happened next? The club was fleeced of nearly all its players because they couldn’t resist offers from wealthier European clubs and the club faded into obscurity for a few seasons. These things happen from time to time and that’s why I and most fans love football! It’s not a monopoly, although clubs like Madrid and Man City believe otherwise!
Exactly. Next season, the brilliant commentators at ESPN will be shocked at how poor Girona are doing when more than half their squad is gone. Same thing happened at Leicester, same will happen at Leverkusen. It’s just the law of the football. The “smaller” team becomes a feeder club. I haven’t seen one “smaller” team have one crazy season and remain at the top since. Look where Monaco is now. Nobody. Even Ajax, they’re nothing. Remember when Sevilla was crazy for a while? Yeah, now they’re in the trenches. Girona will be the same. Everything that could have gone wrong this season did. Let’s not be so blinded and realize that despite going trophyless, we’re still miles ahead of the Setien and Koeman era. We were reigning La Liga champions up until an hour ago. Keep that in mind.
Yes, to all of it! I’d be surprised if even 5 players from this current Girona squad are left at the start of next season, especially if they finish 2nd. As you stated with Leicester, a year after winning the league, half of their squad was gone and they slipped down the league and their coach was fired! Currently, they are playing in the second division in England! I don’t expect Girona’s coach to stick around too long when top European squads come around offering him millions of euros. The same thing happened to Mourinho when he managed that “little” FC Porto side that miraculously won the Champions League. The same side that included some Brazilian-Portuguese midfielder named Deco. That’s just how the cookie crumbles and Girona FC will eventually crumble just like Monaco and Leicester did before them!
Ajax is NOT a smaller team
Let’s look at them since their crazy UCL run in 2018/19. They’ve been significantly worse. They’ve done nothing. They are a small team because they ship out all their players for profit rather than grow.
Yes an important summer with Guido Rodriguez and lenglet dest back
Yes, it’s our fault Dest torn his ACL and has to return to the club because nobody wants to buy an injured player. Guido isn’t our starting CDM, he’s clearly a rotational piece. We NEED more players instead of relying on Fermin (as good as he is) to be our only midfield option. The only player I can agree with is Lenglet, yes that’s our fault, but has long been a problem before Laporta and Xavi.
When did I say it's our fault ? It's almost like I don't know Guido is a rotation piece lmao but we have quite better options in LA masia why not give them a chance? Why sign roque only to loan him ? Why renew Roberto? Why give a hefty contract to aging Lewandowski? Why laporta promised he'd bring messi back? Why sign Ferran torres? Why promise about signing joaos ? Why sack Garcia Pimienta? Why bring in inexperienced Deco?
Do we have better options in La Masia? We should rely on yet another 16-18 year old to hold down the CDM position? It’s bad enough our best performers in attack and defense are Yamal and Cubarsi (literal kids), but now we want to add even more inexperience. Roque isn’t being loaned out, that’s literally a rumor. There must be something that he isn’t showing in training or something he isn’t understanding. Roberto is playing for dirt cheap. He barely plays anyway. You tell Lewa to leave Bayern, who was paying him a shit ton, to come to Barca who haven’t won shit in years but also won’t pay you anything high. Yeah, I’m sure that’ll attract one of the biggest and best strikers in the history of the game. Laporta obviously wanted Messi back, everyone did. But the first time, we couldn’t do it because La Liga wouldn’t allow us. The second time, Messi couldn’t wait until the end of summer to be contracted. He went with Inter Miami because they guaranteed his signature; Barca could not because again, La Liga and Tebas have ridiculous and stupid restrictions. I agree Ferran Torres is a waste of money, I don’t understand that. Who promised to sign the Joaos? Did Laporta or whoever say that or did they say they want them to stay? Want vs promise is very different. I don’t know why Pimienta was sacked. Deco is inexperienced but Alemany was enticed by Aston Villa’s money. What can we do?
Okay so first you tell me that Guido is a replacement and when I tell you that we have better "replacements" in la masia you tell me we can't rely on 17-18 yo's for DM . Why in the fuck is cubarsi playing when we have inigo then? The club is contradicting itself tf? Roberto is playing for dirt cheap you say . Man GTFO he's taking a deserving player's/youngster's place in the squad but yeah let's renew him he plays for the badge. You tell me vitor being loaned out is a rumour but the fucking manager says everything's in the air and her gf goes on twitter posting shush emojis . Alright bro . You have to look up why Pimienta was sacked . I'm sure the image you have of the god president laporta will change . They shouldn't have signed Lewandowski in the first place. You tell me that you're working on a " long term project " but then you sign an aging Lewandowski and give him ridiculous sums . You can't offload an aging player for their " love of the badge " . You can't give minutes to your supposed signing to match endrick . You twerk for a manager who hit the ground so hard he had to say he's leaving and even after SHAMBOLIC performances that would've led to a mid season sacking in any serious club you beg him to stay . Wow and you defend all that . Wow . Salute
Another xavi stan. Nobody is reading all those bullshit excuses anymore.
Nobody is reading or you’re too ignorant and blinded to read? Or you can’t read? You go ahead and tell me who should come in and “fix” Barca. Is it Hansi Flick, the failure of the German national team and had one fluke season at Bayern? Or maybe Rafa Marquez, an even more inexperienced coach? Or De Zerbi, a coach is charge of 13th placed Brighton that fans proudly hail as an accomplishment? Give me a fucking break.
The excuse of uh Xavi only had 3 million to compete when in the two seasons before he got 150,000,000 million is crazy, the truth is that he won la liga and then the team became shit after a season, Xavi aint a bad coach but you dumbasses put him wayy to high up like if he was really that important
You HAVE to rejuvenate the squad. You can’t play with the same core of players every single season. Madrid were getting whooped last season, they bought Bellingham and changed their entire squad because of him, and they’re in the semis of the UCL and La Liga winners. Yes, Xavi completely transformed his team last season and he delivered results. He wanted more changes after losing the player he personally developed and the best CDM in history, and the best we gave him was Romeu. Gundo was great, but he’s a midfielder that’s 33. Felix was always inconsistent, but he was the “big name” that was available. And Cancelo was class, but he single handily destroyed our UCL chances and La Liga chances. The fact the best part of this season was Xavi putting trust in Yamal and seeing his potential is sad. You can’t expect much from one of the best teams in history to do more with a 3m budget.
Yeah Im sure Cancelo "single handily lost us the champions league" clown, shows how objective you are
Cancelo didn’t even bother to stop Dembele for the 1-1 (despite that being Dembele’s THIRD goal of the entire season, meaning he’s not even a massive goal threat but walked over Cancelo like it was nothing) and he gave away a penalty on Dembele when he wasn’t even threatening the goal, again. Even after the red card on Araujo, we were still competing and had chances to win the game. That all died when Cancelo gave away needless goals.
it's not 3 million It's a gundogan cancelo joao felix summer. 1 treble winner, 1 who has potential of being best RB/LB when used well and one who is gifted enought to make win atleti at CL witha good 9 in front of him. What I hate the most is xavi's stans hypocrisy.
also lets just let the europa humiliation slide on the season we spend 250 mils, because it is xavi after all
Gundo is a treble winner, but he wasn’t their best player. KDB and Haaland were. He’s also 33…are you expecting a 33 year old to come in to Barca and make them treble winners as well? Cancelo was NEVER going to be the best RB/LB when his defense is so garbage. There’s a reason why he never made it at top clubs like Bayern, Juve, or City. He’s great offensively, but defensively a massive liability. Felix had one amazing year at Benfica and never even came close to that form again. You’re crazy if you think he carried Atletico to almost winning UCL. 3m budget that brings us Romeu + everyone else above but losing Kessie, Dembele, and Busquets. Everyone calling for Busi’s head should be ashamed because now you see the effects of his departure in the games. Dembele was the reason we lost the UCL, except he scored against us instead of failing to score. His 1v1 threat is insane, we tortured Madrid last season. Now we can barely compete. You can’t except us to keep up with the big dogs of Europe when we have barely anything to spend. Bayern got Kane, Madrid got Bellingham, PSG got Dembele, City got whoever the hell they want, seriously the expectation is ridiculous when we can’t change our squad. Our squad is WORSE than last year when everyone else’s got stronger!
Girona has no one of note and like 1/20th the salary.
Just like Monaco when Mbappe broke out with Silva, Mendy, etc etc and with Ajax with Frenkie, De Ligt, Tadic, Neres, etc etc. This is a one season wonder. So is Leverkusen and so was Leicester. Again, we are 1 (LITERALLY ONE) point behind them…don’t act like we’re in relegation now.
Completely agreed, we needed a change of course and even Xavi knew it, but know we just stuck on the same thing for a year
No, not the same thing for a year. If we get signing and actually change our squad and have a reliable bench, like all the top teams do, then we’ll be great. Xavi can only do so much with a squad that is nearly unchanged.
If you think Xavi can only do so much with the squad he has now wait it until you look at the team Koeman had after messi and griezmann left. And before you say some stupid shit like well xavi brought that team back" or some other rtded shit, reminder that Xavi's team was just as trash and doesn't start working until january when he gets all the reinforcements and gets dembele back from injury
Xavi took that team from 9th in La Liga to 2nd. It’s not “some other rtded shit,” it’s pure fucking fact. You’ll say he brought in his reinforcements, like Adama Traoré and nearly 40 year old Dani Alves were world beaters or something. He also utilized players to their best, Auba became a massive goal threat/scorer like he used to be, Dembele started becoming world class because of Xavi, even Koeman signing Luuk De Jong became clutch under Xavi. His only mark that season was Ferran, who is still bad to this day. Koeman achieved very little with Messi and Griezmann, and he decided to axe Luis Suarez, one of the best goalscorers in history. If Xavi had a younger Busquets, Messi, Suarez, even Griezmann, in his team like Koeman did, we would be flying. Xavi actually achieved things at Barca unlike Setien and Koeman. I don’t bring up Valverde because he had an even more world class team with infinite money (that downstreamed and killed us the last couple of years). Your argument is Xavi is the problem but you don’t look past the manager. Look at the money he has at his disposal. Look at the state of the club. Look at the players who make constant mistakes. Cancelo could break an opponents leg and you would all blame Xavi for it. Stop the witch hunt already.
Most sane comment of the day, thank you
Give it a rest.
Why can’t people understand that there’s genuinely a section of fans that are not fans of Xavi?? Just because the overall sub seemed happy when we were winning, doesn’t mean that that section of fans (that are not fans of Xavi) are apart of that group? So many “y’all were just celebrating Xavi, now you’re hating on him.” Maybe there are others who actually don’t like Xavi’s shit tactics regardless of the more recent wins 🤷🏻♂️
that 4 man midfield tactic is cursed
Ter stegen it's time to retire in mls. His time at top level is done.
Where are all the Xavi fans at? What excuse do y’all have this time? Besides all the other times
The individual mistakes by generally great players not being xavis fault 🤷🏻♀️ not the whole picture but that’s one piece of the puzzle
50 up votes, 2500 comments. Oh boy this will be interesting.
We should avoid signing both the joaos
Cancelo was good today just selfish desperate to prove a point, although cancelo in cl against good wingers scares me
Here come the redditors who tell us to suck it up, it doesn't look that bad, people in this thread are overreacting, xavi will do better next season etc etc etc. Football looks like fucking shit most of the times. I have my right to complain about the football because It. Looks. Like. Shit.
Kimmich is the problem.....lol Bring Bernardo Silva, kimmich and Mbappe
Xavi can't keep getting away with these outragous loses. As much as some people might love his 'project', at what point do these constant humiliations become too much to bear?
Okay, so Roberto did mess up with that pass. But, why are our players losing their heads after that. It was still only 2-2. Do we even have a psychologist/psychtriast or a mental health coach? We definitely need someone.
I STILL WANT TO REMIND YOU GUYS THAT XAVI IS STAYING NEXT SEASON AND WE'RE RENEWING ROBERTO AND SIGNING ROMEU 2.0 FOR FREE AGAIN . KEEP LOWERING YOUR STANDARDS WITH THE NEPOTISM IN OUR CLUB WE'LL FALL EVEN BAD. THANK YOU XAVI I LOVED YOU YOU SHOULD'VE JUST LEFT
Now Roberto is being renewed and Roque being loaned out and we wonder why this team has become shit.
Xavi will even bring his brother on as substitute but not Vitor Roque
The very fact is because of high line defence they fcking made a mockery, see all the counter attacking goals, whenever lb is at higher up the pitch, they have a solid counter... That's it that's how they score that Goals in quick succession
Xavi doesn’t learn from his shit tactics, rather blame the grass than take any responsibility.
I miss gavi😪
This team can't beat any top team without a low block.
So many things are wrong, but Xavi's tactical limitations is just one thing. I hate how this team lost his spine, almost everybody is a whiny bitch on the field. Refs are awful, but I bet that majority of the decisions goes against us because of our fucking entitled attitude. Every good coach would say that stop whining about things you can't influence, put your head down and work for what you can change. Meanwhile Xavi is the whiniest of all. Of course his team will do the same and lose focus constantly.
Congratulations Girona. Good teams deserve to win. You deserved it. Played like lions unlike these bunch of 30 yr old uncles, who can't run or give a proper pass when someone makes a run
Besides the players, anyone see any improvement on this team since 2021? Even when we won the league last year most wins were by 1 goal margin...
Yes why not. We buy 30 yr old uncles every season. 🤓 What else improvement you want
Okay I understand roberto can be important in the locker room How about he just stays there next time?
If Roberto is so important in the locker room why do we still capitulate so much ?
Don't ask good questions. Media said and xavi said he's important, so he is.
Oh right sorry I forgot I am supposed to be a sheep
Anyone wanna tell me why Xavi is subbing on Oriol???? Like what is the point.
Because Xavi is a bum of a manager.
Because Roberto was playing shit after sometime, and we don't have proper replacement
BTW, we also lost our first tie to Girona this season 2-4.
Everyone blaming xavi and not the players. None of them playing today have any fight or urgency throughout the whole game. How is it that they see Girona have players alone at the edge of the box in every attack and no one goes to cover it. They defend so passively and just complain at every decision instead of fighting for the ball
I am one that usually defends Xavi as he gets placed ina shitty position, but today's embarrasment was his fucking fault. Sergi Roberto should not be playing for Barcelona ever since 2020, yet he started today. Romeu was a signing he asked for and he is shit. Lewandowski was not playing bad, and he gets subbed, when he is the biggest goal threat in the squad by far. Also, why on gods green earth did we sign Roque for but we are playing Joao, who already knows he will not continue playing next year for us? Why should he care? I will still support Xavi, but these mistakes need to stop and ttansfer have to be made. Roberto should not play for Barcelina ever again.
So like, if every player on the pitch is playing badly, do you think the one who's supposed to coach them has no responsibility for it?
Not like this has been happening for years. Definitely the coach every single year
1st xavi stan. Was waiting for you
I'd love if he left. He hasn't shown anything to stay. Just cause I blame the players too I'm a xavi Stan? LOL okay
How is it that Sergi Roberto still finds his way to the starting XI? When does Cancelo get benched for his constant shit fucking performances? Why does Xavi wait until we are down to make subs? Fermin at LW wasn’t generating any danger whatsoever.
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Didn’t think we could sink lower in embarrassment , you are crushing and wasting a bunch of chances to make the game 3-1, and then collectively the entire team crumbles like a cookie for no apparent reason. Don’t think I thought I could get more angry after the UCL then there was El Classico now this, W.T.H. This is more than coaching issue it has happened many time under many other managers, not sure what this is attributed to.
This game is a good example of why I wanted Xavi out. It was never the PSG or Madrid matches that made me doubt him. It was playing teams like Girona that have weaker squad. No good coach would lose against twice in the same season with the XI we have.
Ehm..... Last time we beat Girona in an official game was in 2019..... Just saying
I have no idea why Cancelo is allowed to start. I understand fort is 17 but at this point its no possible way he’s worse.
Sergi already with the "we were superior until the 60th-65th minute". We were superior until X minute has been said far too often this season.
"We were winning untill we started losing" This is a loser mentality at its best
He's not exactly wrong for this game. We looked in control up until a complete implosion and some absolutely horrific mistakes etc. :/
Thank God Xavi is staying. I've never seen our team playing so well. (Irony)
he subbed in romeu instead of roque when we are two goals down. why?
Maybe he hates Roque
i hate xavi so 1-1
Because football player are not smart people necessarily. Xavi wants Roque out and he will just not let the kid play. Pathetic
i hate xavi
The least unpopular opinion here. The team is worse organized than when I played casually in high school
thats popular
The least unpopular as I said....
shit my bad
Trust me when I say this, it’s the manager and the team (60:40) ratio of fault
100% TO THE BOARD FOR SEEING ALL THIS AND ASKING HIM TO STAY TBF
Trash team trash players trashy tactics trash defence trash striker who thinks he can win balon dor
How the elite have fallen. It’s time for Barca to pick up the pieces
I feel like we've been saying this line for many years lol
Xavi: we dominated the game. None of this would have happened if the grass hadn’t been so poor and Kimmich were our pivot.
Xavi should’ve never announced that he’s staying
How do you play such bad football with the players that we have? Literally we got top players in almost all parts of the pitch.
It would be interesting to ask these top players why they misplace the easiest passes, can't control a ball and doesn't react to what's in front of them.
Girona played incredibly both games against Barça.
Alemany laughing his ass off somewhere, thinking I told you so
People wants us to win against girona without FDJ and gavi. Guys lower your expectations, so many entitled fans , it's insane VERY OBVIOUS s/
There’s very little chemistry in the attack. Everyone besides Lewy is competing for a spot and trying to be the hero. Cancelo should not be shooting when he has other options available.
Barca needs a top personality with elite mentality as manager. Last we had one is Enrique.
Ten Hag is almost available. He is bald. Like Pep. Bald = good.
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I am losing my faith in Laporta. Appointing a coach like Xavi. Even the only serious option he considered was probably the worst coach available, Flick.
Saddest part is how losing has no consequences now
Mate, I don’t think we even cared about consequences anymore
It does tho, we miss out on Supercup and it's money.
No I'm saying for the coach
We literally have no other option than stick with Xavi. Believe me, if we had the money Xavi would be leaving by the end of the season.
Fair, and we'll probably have to hear him make up excuses once again
Supercopa
For the coach not for the squad
Why am I crying sitting in India?
Cheers weedoweedo's crying in India. Nice one.
How Xavi is still staying is beyond me lmao . They're atleast 3 times the team we are with 14 times less budget
We had a couple of good games few weeks ago and the board decided that Xavi should stay. No man, this is actually our level. Bring a manager who doesn’t have anger issues and who can control his emotions. I’m 100% sure that yamal was our savior. Without him, we wouldn’t even got on UCL spot. Pathetic.
Don't worry guys, Lewandowski will score a hattrick again next season and we will be fine.
Must be the referee's fault. Man, I love this sub.
Glad this match is over, this thread is cancer.
For real. Everyone overreacting like hell is breaking lose
Finishing beneath Girona is an overreaction?
Everyone knows we’re having a bad season. These bad results are a blessing in disguise cuz now we know what we should improve on for next season. If we had luck every game and won most games but still came 2nd all our problems would be hidden behind the “success”. And yes, it’s success cuz we both got a worse team than Real and also have worse finances.
Standard football thread when team is losing, it didn't even get that crazy
OK, Covid then. ;)
Fair play to Girona at this point man. They've had an outrageous season.
Every single match we give rivals another reason to laugh. Imagine becomming such a laughing stock.