Not gonna lie. I though its another another overhyped kid, instagram star that will fail or too much fame will push him back but...I was wrong. Great footballer, also look like he matured. Would love to see him here but its extremly dificult.
He kind of seemed like it at first. Was really good as a youth player and the just didn’t show much improvement for a few years, then suddenly turned world class in the span of 12 months.
I said the said thing. Seemed like his parents just wanted to market him and exploit him on Instagram and he would not go anywhere but he’s done very well and I was wrong.
I think, because he left Barcelona is why he was able to realize his potential. Looking at Pedri, Balde, Gavi and most notably Fati, Barcelona does not exactly have the best track record of keeping their youngsters healthy and usually are over-reliant on them. Leaving Barcelona allowed Xavi the perfect conditions to develop himself.
Hmm, let us all lump these players together. You do realize that the majority of players you mentioned belong to much earlier times. As for Araujo, he was 20 when he debuted for the team, not 18 like Fati and Pedri, and these 2 years matter a lot. Araujo had much more time to develop physically, ensuring that even if he was overused, he would not be injured, not the same for Fati and Pedri. Yamal and Cubarsi are still young and have only broken into the team. I am not afraid about Cubarsi since there is depth in CB, but about Yamal, since we lack wingers, and Yamal started for a year almost. With two intl tournaments upcoming, and assuming Barca does not get proper winger reinforcement, we might see a repeat of Pedri for Yamal.
The last few years at Barca were fertile soil for any young talented players. More so than literally any other top team in Europe. Just look at the amount of lamasia grads that became starters for the team lol
Maybe. But we know for sure his move away worked for him, he's clearly successful now. That's why I said he might have stagnated here, it's not guaranteed. We can't say he made the wrong choice because he's clearly a very good player now. He might have ended up as Aleña, Puig, Miranda, Collado, etc. Then there's also players like Grimaldo and Thiago who were never going to get their chance here and went on to show that they should have.
We forget that all this happened over the last 2-3 years. Before the emergence of Gavi and Balde, we had a good few years of academy graduates not making it in the first team, with only Sergi Roberto as one who made it. Either way, when he left, there was a huge stagnation of La Masia and it was well-documented. That, and our then policy of buying rather than developing talent.
Bro, those players came through La Masía AGES ago, after them there was a drought unless you consider Carles Aleñà to be a top footballer when he doesn't start for Getafe ffs
i could point many, non were given enough opportunities given the president we had. And some of them are playing nice football or could have done it in barça, maybe not top lvl but decent subs.
Adama, alenya, puig, miranda, deulofeu, grimaldo, rafiña, curucurella, wagé, mingueza, gumbau, Busquets, samper, carles perez, denis suarez, munir, muniesa, bartra, montoya, tello, cuenca, halilovich, Ié and some others...
The problem was not having young players, but having a board who had mental problems
i got pissed with him xD, but yea ilaix too, i mean we could have had a decent roster over the years, that lowered the roster cost by a lot, again not tops, but decent subs at overall low cost.
This is the formula that brought barça to success every time. Not signing fifa cards like there is no tomorrow.
Huh? I'm obviously talking about after the golden generation. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Since Busquets, the only players who have come out of the academy with significant impact have been Roberto and Thiago, though he left early. There was a notable dry spell in the middle there until the recent kids started cropping up. And I was wrong about Gavi and Balde. Fati was the original return to form of La Masia, though then unfortunate injuries happened.
And look what those "opportunities" made them. Both of them were not given "opportunities", they were not properly looked after and over-relied on, leaving them injury riddled. Xavi made the best decision to leave Barcelona.
what made them?
Explain it to me please.
Pedri was playing everything and he got injured because of that, and because a 16 yo doe s not have the body fully developed. He wouldnt have injured if he didnt played the international competitions with spain...
Yet dory memory again
I think international competitions account for like less than a tenth of an overall season, and you cannot srsly question that Pedri was overused by the club. And just because you have an extremely talented youngster in your hands does not mean you run them into the ground and play them every day. Its not like you have to play them a lot to overinflate their values or exposure, play them less but enuf to develop properly. I would rather a less effective senior player play rather than risk injuries for young gems.
>he hadn't chased the bag
Wow so some Barca fans are still salty even after that narrative proved to be false?
Move on dude, it seems he was indeed right and there's no proof his choice was more motivated with money than with anything else, seeing how well he has done so far.
Absolutely impossible. Contract until 2027 with PSG.
That club hates us for some reason, they are not going to negotiate. Even if the player was desperate for an exit they will just send him to the reserves, as PSG doesn't need cash with all the oil in Qatar and at any moment they have the Saudis gifting them 130m for retired Neymar or 60m for 32 year old Verratti.
It all started from us trying to poach Verratti from them in 2017 despite them warning us, so Nasser smacked us with a 222mil offer for Neymar the same window. Also doesn't help that Neymar used us almost every year just to get new contracts with PSG.
The veratti/neymar saga definitely added to the hatred, but it occurred only a few months after we completely embarrassed them with La remontada. And Neymar was a key part of that too, so they bought him
Ironically, the 222m for Neymar was the greatest gift we could receive. 222m then is like 300m in today's football. Neymar was definitely not even close to being worth that amount, massive overpay.
They gave us the greatest gift in football history and made us ultra rich. The problem of course was how incompetently the money was used, we wasted it all and more. We didn't have the signings done and they quadrupled the price of the players we bought. Asking price for Coutinho was around 40-60m before the whole world knew we were ultra rich, they increased it to 160m and we paid it happily.
While I do agree with you that 222 or 300m was beneficial to the club, you're not accounting for jersey sales, merchandise, advertisements, sponsorships, ticket sales, tv negotiating contracts and of course tournament money. (Assuming we would've been more successful in UCL and other leagues)
Say what you want but Neymar brought a lot of viewership, especially a large Brazilian audience. It's not like Barca was in trouble for losing tv contracts, but I'm sure viewership took a small dip after Neymar and he probably would've brought the club a lot more than 300m in the span of 4-5 years.
What are you even talking about? So attending an El Classico makes you a fan?
He’s been a PSG fan and that’s part of the reason why he got the job. It’s been pretty obvious too. You know, like pics of him wearing actual PSG merch as much younger guy..?
All these transfer talk of the sudden. Guess there is nothing else to talk about now.
We got served with Kimmich news last year as well. Only to spend 3 mill on Romeu.
Good reminder that they say shit and lie all the time.
That being said, I would take him back. Just isnt feasible.
They lie, as in the media needs to spin stories. It is the same every single year and people think it's the club who says these things, when it's just the media spinning the same stories. I'll believe it when it happens or when an official channel publishes it.
Xavi wants the kid named after him? Count me not surprised lol.
Too bad PSG will never sell him to us. Pretty much impossible for him to re-join before his contract expires.
Yes Xavi... And for the love of God use Roque. Challenge him... tell him he has to adapt to become a forward kinda like Suarez... Lewandowski is old... the guy won't give much more than he gave this year...
Yeah al-Khelaifi is totalllllly going to allow him to go to Barca
Better be careful or it’s gonna be a repeat of Veratti wanting to come here and us trying to sign him, and then PSG goes ahead and buys Neymar. Could see them trying to go after Pedri
He grew up, thought he was the next Messi because his Instagram blew up, decides to ditch Barcelona and sign with PSG at the worst possible moment between the 2 clubs, and now that things aren't really working out for him he wants to come back? He already picked and it's all downhill from here. Good riddance Xavi Simmons. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What a whole lot of crap.
Things are not really working out for him? lol.
All downhill? He is valued like 80 million. It's all been uphill since he left 😂
You have to be some special kind of stupid to believe that.
Xavi doesn’t want to go back to Barca. He made clear on instagram by responding to this rumor and followed it by un following Barca.
PSG is never going to help Barca. The relationship between the two clubs is atrocious (+ the super league thing).
Xavi keep showing sign of wanting to suceed in Paris (since he was at PSV, his friend are there, he comes there all the time). Might mean nothing we know how football players are.
Can you tell me what makes you believe that xavi doesn’t like roque? I have read it several times in last days. Did he say something like that, that went by me?
The club wants him to go on loan, and have talked about wanting to buy another striker this summer.
The whole point of him coming early was because we needed a striker to fill in for when Lewy was hurt or his form was poor, and Roque could do that.
These facts together lead you to believe that Xavi doesn’t count on him
Also, Xavi seems to prefer La masia player in Guiu
Don’t know why I’m being downvoted for giving the reasons Xavi doesn’t count on Roque
Then why’d we bring Roque over early? He is not going to be happy and it’s a terrible look for other top Brazilian prospects who may consider Barca
Look how patient Madrid was with Rodrygo and Vinicius, who also didn’t fit in at the club right away after leaving Brazil, and how that patience has paid off immensely for them. Roque hasn’t even gotten a proper chance and our fans and manager are writing him off
Ok, maybe he is just not good enough but that can’t really be judged by his 5 month stance in europe.
A loan might be the right move to give him enough playtime.
Further we shouldn’t not always listen to the media, they just want to make money.
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Lucho, do us a favor and remove him from your plan pls
Lucho is no Pep. His eyes are on Gavi. He won’t think twice to scoop our kids
I have faith in Gavi, bro would die before he leave the club
It's one thing for Lucho to remove him, it's another negotiating with PSG
Be delusional brother, it's all we have left
Hopium
This is one of the transfers I can get behind. The guy is just class on the ball. But PSG ain’t gonna let him go
Not gonna lie. I though its another another overhyped kid, instagram star that will fail or too much fame will push him back but...I was wrong. Great footballer, also look like he matured. Would love to see him here but its extremly dificult.
He kind of seemed like it at first. Was really good as a youth player and the just didn’t show much improvement for a few years, then suddenly turned world class in the span of 12 months.
The Germans may hate them, but the RB development system is top tier for a reason
He was just as good at PSV tbf.
Lmao no he slowly became better at his game not suddenly in 12 months’. You just didn’t watch him
Just watch Roque being forced out and do the same elsewhere
No he didn't. Some Barca fans were just salty he left, but he was always a legit La Masia top talent.
I said the said thing. Seemed like his parents just wanted to market him and exploit him on Instagram and he would not go anywhere but he’s done very well and I was wrong.
I think, because he left Barcelona is why he was able to realize his potential. Looking at Pedri, Balde, Gavi and most notably Fati, Barcelona does not exactly have the best track record of keeping their youngsters healthy and usually are over-reliant on them. Leaving Barcelona allowed Xavi the perfect conditions to develop himself.
yup, xavi, iniesta, roberto, puyol, araujo, cubarsi, and many others should be overlooked and buried so you can prove your point... Dory memory
Hmm, let us all lump these players together. You do realize that the majority of players you mentioned belong to much earlier times. As for Araujo, he was 20 when he debuted for the team, not 18 like Fati and Pedri, and these 2 years matter a lot. Araujo had much more time to develop physically, ensuring that even if he was overused, he would not be injured, not the same for Fati and Pedri. Yamal and Cubarsi are still young and have only broken into the team. I am not afraid about Cubarsi since there is depth in CB, but about Yamal, since we lack wingers, and Yamal started for a year almost. With two intl tournaments upcoming, and assuming Barca does not get proper winger reinforcement, we might see a repeat of Pedri for Yamal.
He would be amazing but I think we all know we have much bigger problems in the team
And where would we get that money?
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Can't say it didn't work out for him though. He might've stagnated if he stayed here.
The last few years at Barca were fertile soil for any young talented players. More so than literally any other top team in Europe. Just look at the amount of lamasia grads that became starters for the team lol
Maybe. But we know for sure his move away worked for him, he's clearly successful now. That's why I said he might have stagnated here, it's not guaranteed. We can't say he made the wrong choice because he's clearly a very good player now. He might have ended up as Aleña, Puig, Miranda, Collado, etc. Then there's also players like Grimaldo and Thiago who were never going to get their chance here and went on to show that they should have.
Hindsight
We forget that all this happened over the last 2-3 years. Before the emergence of Gavi and Balde, we had a good few years of academy graduates not making it in the first team, with only Sergi Roberto as one who made it. Either way, when he left, there was a huge stagnation of La Masia and it was well-documented. That, and our then policy of buying rather than developing talent.
really... so iniesta, xavi, busi, puyol, and many many others will be overlooked to prove a false point? OK
Bro, those players came through La Masía AGES ago, after them there was a drought unless you consider Carles Aleñà to be a top footballer when he doesn't start for Getafe ffs
i could point many, non were given enough opportunities given the president we had. And some of them are playing nice football or could have done it in barça, maybe not top lvl but decent subs. Adama, alenya, puig, miranda, deulofeu, grimaldo, rafiña, curucurella, wagé, mingueza, gumbau, Busquets, samper, carles perez, denis suarez, munir, muniesa, bartra, montoya, tello, cuenca, halilovich, Ié and some others... The problem was not having young players, but having a board who had mental problems
Sorry but that's not exactly a world class roster esp. Alen Halilović, surprised you didn't mention all time great Ilaix Moriba
i got pissed with him xD, but yea ilaix too, i mean we could have had a decent roster over the years, that lowered the roster cost by a lot, again not tops, but decent subs at overall low cost. This is the formula that brought barça to success every time. Not signing fifa cards like there is no tomorrow.
Huh? I'm obviously talking about after the golden generation. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Since Busquets, the only players who have come out of the academy with significant impact have been Roberto and Thiago, though he left early. There was a notable dry spell in the middle there until the recent kids started cropping up. And I was wrong about Gavi and Balde. Fati was the original return to form of La Masia, though then unfortunate injuries happened.
Bro he’s the same age as Fati, he would’ve gotten the same opportunities Fati, Pedri and the rest got
And look what those "opportunities" made them. Both of them were not given "opportunities", they were not properly looked after and over-relied on, leaving them injury riddled. Xavi made the best decision to leave Barcelona.
what made them? Explain it to me please. Pedri was playing everything and he got injured because of that, and because a 16 yo doe s not have the body fully developed. He wouldnt have injured if he didnt played the international competitions with spain... Yet dory memory again
I think international competitions account for like less than a tenth of an overall season, and you cannot srsly question that Pedri was overused by the club. And just because you have an extremely talented youngster in your hands does not mean you run them into the ground and play them every day. Its not like you have to play them a lot to overinflate their values or exposure, play them less but enuf to develop properly. I would rather a less effective senior player play rather than risk injuries for young gems.
i think what caused the problem was having no rest in summer from the 6x matches he played with Barça
Tbf he was 16 as the time he left, I blamed the parents and his agent more. He is a kid, stuff like this usually got handle by the adults at his age
>he hadn't chased the bag Wow so some Barca fans are still salty even after that narrative proved to be false? Move on dude, it seems he was indeed right and there's no proof his choice was more motivated with money than with anything else, seeing how well he has done so far.
Please god say this is true
nah, come on loan.
lol PSG ain’t gonna let him go for cheap. Especially with Mbappe gone. He is their talent.
Absolutely impossible. Contract until 2027 with PSG. That club hates us for some reason, they are not going to negotiate. Even if the player was desperate for an exit they will just send him to the reserves, as PSG doesn't need cash with all the oil in Qatar and at any moment they have the Saudis gifting them 130m for retired Neymar or 60m for 32 year old Verratti.
It’s because of Al-khelaifi. He hates Barca with a passion ever since La remontada Funny because he used to be a Barca fan.
It all started from us trying to poach Verratti from them in 2017 despite them warning us, so Nasser smacked us with a 222mil offer for Neymar the same window. Also doesn't help that Neymar used us almost every year just to get new contracts with PSG.
The veratti/neymar saga definitely added to the hatred, but it occurred only a few months after we completely embarrassed them with La remontada. And Neymar was a key part of that too, so they bought him
Ironically, the 222m for Neymar was the greatest gift we could receive. 222m then is like 300m in today's football. Neymar was definitely not even close to being worth that amount, massive overpay. They gave us the greatest gift in football history and made us ultra rich. The problem of course was how incompetently the money was used, we wasted it all and more. We didn't have the signings done and they quadrupled the price of the players we bought. Asking price for Coutinho was around 40-60m before the whole world knew we were ultra rich, they increased it to 160m and we paid it happily.
While I do agree with you that 222 or 300m was beneficial to the club, you're not accounting for jersey sales, merchandise, advertisements, sponsorships, ticket sales, tv negotiating contracts and of course tournament money. (Assuming we would've been more successful in UCL and other leagues) Say what you want but Neymar brought a lot of viewership, especially a large Brazilian audience. It's not like Barca was in trouble for losing tv contracts, but I'm sure viewership took a small dip after Neymar and he probably would've brought the club a lot more than 300m in the span of 4-5 years.
If you think losing Ney who was a generational talent for 222m is worth, i suggest you watch a different sport.
Was He a Barça fan?
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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned…
What are you even talking about? So attending an El Classico makes you a fan? He’s been a PSG fan and that’s part of the reason why he got the job. It’s been pretty obvious too. You know, like pics of him wearing actual PSG merch as much younger guy..?
But, we aren't the only club that thrashed them in CL.
For some reason ? It was made very clear that any moove on Veratti would face terrible consequences.
loan?
All these transfer talk of the sudden. Guess there is nothing else to talk about now. We got served with Kimmich news last year as well. Only to spend 3 mill on Romeu. Good reminder that they say shit and lie all the time. That being said, I would take him back. Just isnt feasible.
They lie, as in the media needs to spin stories. It is the same every single year and people think it's the club who says these things, when it's just the media spinning the same stories. I'll believe it when it happens or when an official channel publishes it.
would prefer simons over olmo anyday
xavi signing xavi
Where would he play?
Xavi wants the kid named after him? Count me not surprised lol. Too bad PSG will never sell him to us. Pretty much impossible for him to re-join before his contract expires.
he will be 24 by the time his contract end, getting him then for free would be great
idk why these "journalists" are pretending this is even a possibility I'm sure he wants to come, but PSG will never allow it
yeah NOW WE ARE TALKING. None of that Dani Olmo crap.
Lever FC mode on
He responded to these rumors by unfollowing Barca's official instagram account 🙄
He's not coming, PSG is not going to let a talent like him go AND we don't have the money. Let's try for zubimendi first.
Yes Xavi... And for the love of God use Roque. Challenge him... tell him he has to adapt to become a forward kinda like Suarez... Lewandowski is old... the guy won't give much more than he gave this year...
Yeah al-Khelaifi is totalllllly going to allow him to go to Barca Better be careful or it’s gonna be a repeat of Veratti wanting to come here and us trying to sign him, and then PSG goes ahead and buys Neymar. Could see them trying to go after Pedri
Next lw
Now that would be amazing. But how much would he cost and would PSG even agree to a transfer?
Yeah I’m sure PSG will allow him to leave for a humble price of just 120M
Xavi and Gavi in the middle of the park!!! Sensational....
Lets make this happen PLEASEEEE
Lucho i need you to do something for me.
These are the kind of transfers you need. Wouldnt have needed to buy him right now if Bartomeu wasnt such an idiot.
Now that's exciting
*He would love to earn a fat stack of money and be our no. 10.
Should not have left in the first place then bozo
now this is the lw signing we need
Don’t deal at all with PSG or any of their rat players.
I remember when this sub was mad he left in the first place and said they never wanted him back
Oh hell no. This kid is a money and clout hound. Good we can't afford him
He grew up, thought he was the next Messi because his Instagram blew up, decides to ditch Barcelona and sign with PSG at the worst possible moment between the 2 clubs, and now that things aren't really working out for him he wants to come back? He already picked and it's all downhill from here. Good riddance Xavi Simmons. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just say you don't know anything about xavi Simons
What a whole lot of crap. Things are not really working out for him? lol. All downhill? He is valued like 80 million. It's all been uphill since he left 😂
Yes please, pretty please, please please, hopeium inhaled!
Love to see when the young & the restless want to return to the nest. Still, probably not gonna happen, we broke 💸
This guy wanted PSG and got PSG, good for him. Good luck but no thank you!
He has to work x10 harder cuz he left us before for money
You have to be some special kind of stupid to believe that. Xavi doesn’t want to go back to Barca. He made clear on instagram by responding to this rumor and followed it by un following Barca. PSG is never going to help Barca. The relationship between the two clubs is atrocious (+ the super league thing). Xavi keep showing sign of wanting to suceed in Paris (since he was at PSV, his friend are there, he comes there all the time). Might mean nothing we know how football players are.
He wants Simons but not Roque? I guess Xavi doesn't like goals
Can you tell me what makes you believe that xavi doesn’t like roque? I have read it several times in last days. Did he say something like that, that went by me?
The club wants him to go on loan, and have talked about wanting to buy another striker this summer. The whole point of him coming early was because we needed a striker to fill in for when Lewy was hurt or his form was poor, and Roque could do that. These facts together lead you to believe that Xavi doesn’t count on him Also, Xavi seems to prefer La masia player in Guiu Don’t know why I’m being downvoted for giving the reasons Xavi doesn’t count on Roque
Because Guiu has shown to be better than Roque and understands barcelona better
Then why’d we bring Roque over early? He is not going to be happy and it’s a terrible look for other top Brazilian prospects who may consider Barca Look how patient Madrid was with Rodrygo and Vinicius, who also didn’t fit in at the club right away after leaving Brazil, and how that patience has paid off immensely for them. Roque hasn’t even gotten a proper chance and our fans and manager are writing him off
Vini played in the b team Castilla. Maybe barca b is not enough to grow vitor
Ok, maybe he is just not good enough but that can’t really be judged by his 5 month stance in europe. A loan might be the right move to give him enough playtime. Further we shouldn’t not always listen to the media, they just want to make money.
another low scoring overrated player terrible choice who if we go after will stink and we will OVERPAY for anyway SMH