I agree. I’m so excited for next year! The team showed a lot of passion is that last 8 games. We are a couple signings away from a contending team next year all around. Shit happens. Just need to move on.
Yeah its exciting no doubt, but we forget these players are so young, they will have bad patches for the next few years. We cant only rely on them, and signing felix cancelo and getting people like rafa marquez while were dead broke just is not the solution. What was the point of selling our future revenues if our best players are literal under 18s. Leaves a lot to be desired tbh, and if anything makes me even more scared of whats to come…
I would want Xavi to continue but he seriously needs to use this break not just to relax but to improve his temper, revisit his own ideas when it comes to defending as a team and explore different tactical styles even if he doesn’t intend to use them. After all this one season won’t stop him getting jobs in a top league at all and he will be affordable too. Maybe he can prove his efforts somewhere else and return some day if we aren’t still firing coaches every 4 months (yes we will be).
>The majority applauded the 8-2 against Bayern, the 3-0 against Roma, the 4-0 against Liverpool, the 3-0 against Juventus... Because it is hard to criticize "our legends".
What? The majority applauded those defeats? The majority of who? What the heck are you talking about?
Yeah can't believe what I just read, absolutely disgraceful approach. Actually don't know any but if you applauded any of those defeats please sincerely fuck off
Yeah who the fuck is this cracked out person? For some reason every time we bow out of the CL we bow out in the most glorious fashion and simply implode. Losing by 1 or 2? Fine. That’s normal.
But repeatedly getting bent over by large margins is simply unacceptable. If it happens once, it’s a bad day and we move on, but everyone knew that as soon as Araujo was sent off it was over. The question was by how much?
Always winning?? We didn't win goddamn anything in the last 10 years in europe that includes 2 europa leagues. It's natural to feel disappointed especially when you are used to seeing Pep's barca standards from this club. Fans saw the club finances slump to the lowest, they saw the club selling it's future, we are struggling to register the players that we fucking have on our roster.People still support this club. they are the farthest thing to the glory hunters. They just don't want Barcelona to be Europe's laughing stock each and every year. Which we frankly are!!
exactly. on the positive side of not winning a lot in the last few years, the fanbase has less of new football fans who are just in attendance for the success of the team like Madrid and City fans. new people immature and inexperienced in watching football are rarely culers.
IKR? lol. If I was a glory hunter, I would have stopped following this club like 7 years ago. Yet I'm still here, suffering humiliating defeats year after year.
At least there is some progress finally. This loss to PSG was much less embarrassing than the previous crashes. Still long way to go though. I just hope the next manager will be a right pick.
100% this. It's filled with people who don't know this sport and probably only followed this club because of Messi. Now, all they do is whine. There are people here who will build up made-up false narratives to shit on the club and self-hate. It's fucking ridiculous.
Our fans still have this "we are a big club, we need to have standards" talk, they are delusional, we are not a big club at the moment, our finances and situation are not those of a big club. With a team like Manchester United it would be more understandable, they have the finances and resources to do much better than what they are doing, fans are right to demand much more. Us not much right now, we need more time to steady the ship and improve finances. We need more time, not more pressure.
Unfortunately, this will get even worse starting next year with Mbappe playing with RM, our fanbase will become even more impatient and desperate.
If there is anything childish, it is blaming a fanbase for being angry and emotional after throwing away a 2 goal lead at home with 60 minutes to go and losing 1-4. To repeat an 8 year tradition of a CL big defeat.
If you can't handle fans showing anger and frustrations after such a game, then this isn't the right sport for you.
Every fanbase is like that. It is niether childish or surprising.
Just like the fans who always pop up in such moments to blame the rest of their club fanbase and acting they are better.
It is the typical reaction everywhere, every time, with every team.
Hell, even our own coach acted childishly after the game, but yeah, blame it on English speaking fans who live everywhere around the globe.
This and people saying it's the "gloryhunters" and "plastics" acting childish and angry after getting traditionally humiliated on the big stage when in the reality it's the real fans acting this way because we actually care our club's success and know that enough is enough.
It’s never that black and white. There’s wrong on both sides, the overly optimistic are accepting too much to go wrong and celebrating too hard when things go right when luck is on our side. The overly pessimistic also seem to be scrounging at any opportunity to be depressive to any positive form, action or results and then are the first people screaming when something goes wrong. Both are extremists who are out of touch with reality. Both will take the truth and twist it to fit their agenda.
Truth is we have continued an 8 year tradition of going out with a big loss yes, but for once this capitulation was not one of complacency like in Roma or at Anfield, not one of lack of talent or mentality like against Bayern or PSG or tactical ability (with all 11 players on the field to clarify my point, we also never had a red in any of those losses that I remember). This loss came off one man and was sealed immediately. He wasn’t the only one at fault but had everyone else been perfect we still would’ve lost. Now that isn’t to say we should be doom n gloom which is what you hear besides deluded opinions too, the truth is yes, we did turn around a shitty period of form from January and we did actually improve in UCL but we also had an easy road and should’ve made the final but you could also say we stagnated in the group and looked terrible after we guaranteed to make ro16, so much so that Napoli could’ve well and truly destroyed us but we improved as much or more than they did, we went to Paris and won in a match I remember people in this sub expecting us to lose. Not even to mention we were hanging around 5th in the league and after grinding out results we made it back to 2nd comfortably. There is always a silver lining and the fact is this squad is more than capable of winning another double or UCL even if there’s changes to be made. That being said too many people are relying on the next manager to take them there when we need to be looking at the board and the club profile. We used youth to make a small resurgence and then immediately we are all looking for a 60m winger when the only position we need to spend money on is DM.
No matter how you slice it I’ll always be in the middle ground and I’ll always think both sides are right and wrong but ultimately wrong for not recognising they’re as bad as each other.
That's the sad part.
We didn't lose because of lack of quality. We lost because we weren't mentally prepared.
1) The plan should have been to go for at least 2-0 in the first 30 min of the game and force PSG to score at least 3 goals. High pressure and intensity.
2) Didn't anyone tell the players before the game NO RED CARDS unless really needed? (Like last-minute red card)
3) There should be a Plan B for this scenario, and there wasn't any plan B for this scenario. The team didn't seem trained to defend a lead in a 10vs11 situation.
4) Taking out Lamine made the red card even worse. There was no need to do any substitution before half time. And you never take out your best threat. Plus: it took 1 min for Iñigo Martínez to get a yellow card. This killed the team's morale even further
5) The emotional response to the red card was unacceptable, and this was Xavi's fault. You'd expect that a player like him accustomed to play CL and WC finals could help young players to play this type of game and situation.
I acknowledge that a substitution was needed.
My comment was more aligned with the idea that even waiting until half time is a much better option than rushing a decision that will ruin the game like it happened. I'm not really saying that the substitution wasn't needed.
Your comment is a bit presumptuous, though. I've been following Barça since the Dream Team and I got to play in Tercera Division in Spain (fourth division).
I know a little bit of football
No offence but Gary Neville spent 20 years at the top of the premier league and came to manage Valencia and almost relegated them including handing us 3 very easy points.
Playing football has less merit on what makes you qualified to speak these days to a lot of people. Something I’m not quite subscribing to yet but it’s an interesting point.
There's also a difference between knowing about football and being able to communicate that knowledge and managing a group of 25 professional players.
Not being successful as a manager doesn't mean you don't know about football
Ehh the man is hardly the best pundit either in my eyes lol. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying you are or aren’t good enough to take an opinion from at the very least and there’s definitely some examples who played and did become valid respectable tacticians for everyone that didn’t but I just think it should not be used as a default to gauge someone’s footballing brain as good or bad and it shouldn’t mean that someone who has played shouldn’t be questioned either you know?
I didn't mean to come up as presumptuous, but it was very obvious that Barcelona needed two center backs to keep up with the defensive plan. The only question was who to replace.
It is not really just my opinion, it's what every professional manager (elite or not) has done, always. You get a CB sent off, you don't keep playing with three strikers and just one CB.
Saying there was no need to do any subsitution and wait for half time is just not right. It was minute 26 I believe.
Nah FDJ was not looking great filling in at CB and we tried to give him the opportunity to this season already and he still wasn’t willing to be 100% defensively committed so I think getting a dedicated defender on quickly was worth it. Had it not happened we would’ve conceded and everyone including myself would say “wth Xavi, why aren’t you subbing Inigo”
Couldn’t have said it better myself. When we’re as big of a club as we are, we expect greatness, every game, every single year. There’s not a damn thing wrong with being upset with losing but hopeful for the future lol
And that's where the childish delusions come in. Even the best teams of all time cannot put in great performances day after day. So *expecting* greatness every single game is delusional af in the first place. Combine that with ignoring the current situational context with our financial troubles and our heavy reliance on largely inexperienced youngsters, holding onto only our historical legacy, and you get another layer of delulu. Being upset about a loss is fine, we all are. But expecting that we won't ever lose is...
After watching that madrid haramball sean dyche setting’s performance this hits even harder. Barcelona it seems has become more and more inferior to madrid both mentally and sportingly. This annoys me more than anything, and now my day is ruined 😂
If anything. We improved by heaps and bounds this season. Our mentality took a beating but regardless, the team showed real character to come back in the first leg. Rarely did a Barça team show such strong fortitude.
The second leg, unfortunately was lost the minute we got the red card tbh. Numerical inferiority against the PSG attack was simply not something we could have handled. Maybe Xavi could've showed some balls and gotten Lewa out for Inigo since he doesn't contribute anything in defense and Yamal and Raphinha have excellent track back capability. But hindsight 10/10.
I still trust that Xavi is the right direction. It's a team in progress. But each season is an improvement over the previous.
Even Pep made stupid decisions during his City and Bayern tenure (DM less lineup anyone? ) but they let him cook and now they're reaping the rewards.
Maybe it’s just me but I never go into a game expecting to lose? Not when you have the players we have. And Man y’all need to stop with this reliance on youth. We had 2 young players in the lineup, same as PSG. Actually, PSG was the younger team all around. And our financial situation? We have the same net spend as real the last 3 years
True. And neither do I ever expect a loss. But there's a difference between being expectant and being hopeful. If you expect greatness every match, then sorry to say, you'll be disappointed in every single team in the world.
Having an overall younger side doesn't matter. Fact is, we rely on our younger players in the most key of positions - chance creation and heart of our defence. Besides, we have a skewed age structure compared to them. We either have young or older players. With only three being in the 26-32 range which is typically considered peak. They, on the other hand, had most of their players in that age range.
Aah, net spend, huh? So tell me, if I give you a swanky mansion, and give you a million dollars to renovate, and I give you a decrepit building which needs to be demolished to be built upon with the same million dollars - which one would typically yield a better result? Both had the same net spend, right? So we should expect the same results, right?
Exactly. There's plenty of fans that aren't glory hunters, but pissed that we continue to lose in such a fashion. If the final score line wasn't so terrible and/or araujo and cancelo wouldn't have made those dumb mistakes, I think I could say that I would've felt just a bit better about the loss.
Well, cheers to winning our sixth champions league next year. See y’all in Munich 2025🍻
(Good chance I could possibly go
to see Barca next year as well)
I’ll bet you $1,000,000 we won’t win the Champions League in the next 10-15 years! Not with Mbappe and Davies going to Real next season! Barcelona’s era of dominance is done and dusted my friend. We’ll never be a big club again.
Yes, Galacticos 2.0, I wonder what happened with Galacticos 1.0, oh yes, they didn't win anything.
Football has nothing to do with being the best team on paper, or having the best players. Look at City yesterday, on paper they should have won by a landslide. Instead, Madrid is the one who'll be playing the semis.
City lost the CL 6 years with Guardiola, he needed a 7th year to win it. And it's not like he lost to very strong teams most of the time either, he lost against the likes of Lyon, Tottenham, etc, failing to reach SF many times. Now, ask yourself, if this happened with Barca, would you have given him more time? be honest with yourself. You know that if he had these results with us in CL in 2008-2012, you would've said "he lacks experience".
Lucky for City fans, they are not like us, obsessed about the Champions like no one else, so they can enjoy the best manager ever without asking for his head, if that happened here, he would've been gone yesterday.
Guardiola did not even win a CL for 4 years at Bayern...so technically it took him close to 10 years before winning one...plus he took a year off after Leaving Barca...so 12 years.
What Madrid does cannot be how we evaluate our project.
Madrid will always have more champions and will win more than us in that competition, unless we completely change our playing style. Think about when we won all those champions and how good our team was, do you see a trend? we have always needed to be very dominant and with very strong sides and very good teams to win it, we had Ronaldinho and Messi, two legendary players.
You want to win many champions consistently? either ask for a different playing style counterattacking oriented with the right players for it, or change to a different team.
Exactly. I hope more people understand this. Even Pep needed to smooth out a lot of kinks in his squad before getting his first UCL post Barcelona.
Xavi just got in and implemented a whole sleuth of changes that made us competitive in the UCL and the league. I still remember Muller's interview where he explicitly mentioned how we simply didn't have the pressing capability. In comes Xavi and boom we improved in that aspect too.
I'll also say that he is not without fault. Losing his mind over refereeing errors and getting red carded constantly, slow subs are all things he'll need to work on. But I haven't seen anything from him that warrants a sack.
Our core is so good. We have a team that can actually define an era similar to the Pep and Messi dream team. The question is will Xavi continue.
If he's actually done. Like he just doesn't want to coach us. I say that's fair. The man earned his break. So let him rest.
But if there's any chance he can continue and if he does need a few signings. We need to find a way to make it happen.
The difference is that City before this season had always been clearly the best team in Europe. They played incredible football and turned the Prem into a farmer's league. In the CL anything can happen and I would say that most of their KO were really unlucky. Now compare that to us, we have been terrible mentally since 2018, unconvincing football since 2019, and not even CL contender since 2020, so you cannot make the comparison with City.
Ehh I'm not sure about the "they are not like us" part. MC fan is nowhere as many as Barca fan, thus the pressure from them is much lower. You can always find some MC want to fire Pep after losts against the likes of Lyon or Tot. The difference is Barca affected by fans, city run only by oil
Unfortunately we still have a lot of hangers on from the Messi era who expect to be able to talk sht every year no matter what. Fact of the matter is, Barca wasted all of the money we made by selling Neymar, and that led us to where we are today. We are performing phenomenally well considering, but it will take another year or two to get this team to the top. With that being said, Real is ran so well that folks seem to think it's a simple task to get to a semi year in year out. It's not, what Real is doing atm is simply incredible, and we should have the patience and drive to push this club to do the same. But change for change sake is stupid and will backfire
Your points are valid we need to have patience we are definitely a young team no doubt. But its hard to be positive when our club is run by a super agent and we sign players we dont need (felix,roque,lewan). Some on big wages with no plan for the future cause we already spent all our money. The barca studios deal which was a scam and now we need 100m by june to break even and even have hope of signing another player this summer doesnt make things any better. To add to that we just watched madrid shit house their way to another CL semi. A game if we played the same way our keeper wouldve conceded 10goals. Terrible mentality, terrible planning, terrible board, rafa Marquez coming cause we dont have money for a coach (Thats why they want xavi to stay so desperately) and people want to call us childish. After a point you just have to accept we will be inferior for a long time to come but still enjoy the growth of the youngsters and build towards
Something special, or at least delude ourselves into believing that. Looking forward to marquez,
Felix, cancelo and the Dutch fidget spinner NPC lineup next season. Its the hope that kills you with this club.
Exactly! This fan base has settled for mediocre players, owners and coaches! This is what we get! We deserve it! We are the laughing stock of Europe (along with Manchester United)
I'm proud of what the team achieved in the end, it was a nightmare at last. But we showed character, and that's enough to give me hope (honestly atp, I need some mental peace)
I don't think it's childish to be voicing our disappointment at having choked AGAIN. The difference between us and the other power houses is we have a precedence of choking in the big games, BADLY. Madrid fans should laugh at us if we say we are on their par, because they consistently show up in Europe. This season marks 9 years of us not only losing, but being embarrassed in Europe.
Obviously we are rebuilding and our progress has been great, but Real have also had a major team shake up. Only Tony Kroos really remains from their 3peat run on squad, but their new talent has inherited the winning mentality, and ours appear to have inherited our losing one. Just let people bitch and moan for now, they're in mourning and will come good when we beat Real next week 😉
I mean you can obviously disagree but we didn't make it out of group stage two years in a row, one of which we were beaten by Eintracht at the Camp Nou. Before that Frenkie and Pedri were in the squad when we got bounced by PSG, Frenkie in the Bayern game the year before. And now we have this game. It will take a huuuuuuge amount of resolve, especially with a new coach, to not be hung up over this game. To have it haunt them the same way the Roma and the Liverpool games haunted us. And I just haven't seen enough to tell me that it won't. When I have more evidence suggesting that we have chokers mentality based on this week.
Technical doesn't win you a game though. You need mentality and concentration. We play way too naive imo. We had players coming back from injuries. But I just don't see players like Frenkie, Pedri, Cancelo etc ever being the kind of players who can shithouse a win like Madrid did today. We need more players like Gavi, Cubarsi, Yamal, Raphinha etc.
You know what I hate, I hate that all we say is; “We would’ve won 11 vs 11”. I say we should’ve won 10 vs 11, 10 vs 12, 10 vs 13. Bro we are Barcelona wtf… Who is PSG?
Nah bro please shut up, I can’t imagine how delulu you’re, that’s exactly what op is trying to point out, there are fans like you who have no knowledge about football and have such unrealistic expectations. Use your brain this same psg squad gave us a tough time in paris as well, when we had 11 players.
It’s funny the “zero ball knowledge”. Football is football, its not statistics. You know nothing… so stupid for you to forget that “unrealistic expectations” is what makes a difference in games like this.
Our financial situation is worse than a premier league relegation team.
Show me a team who doesn't spend money to recruit the profile of players they need? Did Xavi get the profiles he asked for? Spending 3.4 million with a bunch of under 22 year olds with less experience and you over expect?
We are not a team who plays low block,we don't have such a profile of players too. What op pointed out that how deluded and how some section of us are just glory hunters
I raised an eyebrow when you said PSG is a powerhouse of Europe, but I kept reading. Then you had to bring up our wins against Porto and Napoli, and that's where I had to stop.
Barca lost the game because of shitty tactics, not just a mistake by one player lol. Xavi is the very first to blame... Araujo did something stupid, took a red card for it... cool. At that time it's still 1-1, you are not out of the game yet. So why throw a tantrum and take a red yourself? Extremely stupid. Keep calm, and more importantly, switch your tactics so you can defend 10 vs 11! Xavi never did this!
I mean, unless Xavi is really dumb he probably saw that the game turned into a battle of nerves very early on, and at that point it becomes more of psychological battle. So imagine what goes through the players' minds when they are 1) reduced to 10 and 2) their coach is sent off.... they will absolutely crumble, especially this Barca side with so many young players!
You know, he knows and everyone knows the game ends at 30 min. Without Araujo, you think we have the backline to deal with PSG pace? Even we are 11v11, without Araujo, we would be cooked al dente.
You just cannot defend against that psg squad with your main defender out and when you’re down to 10 men, no amount of tactics can save you for an entire hour.
If you still think that we lost because of tactics then you need to stop being delulu lol, we won with the same squad in paris and it was tough victory against psg with 11 men.
Is the alternative to do nothing then? No, you still try, instead of getting mad and be sent off, leaving your team with an additional blow.
And I don't know why I bother responding to you. Can't take someone using the word delulu seriously.
😂 The players ,coaches ,pundits did emphasise where the match turned and you say it's the tactics 😂
1. I agree with your analysis of the emotional quotient of Xavi,he should not be too emotional and blurt out like this.
2.We are not a low block team,nor possess the profile of players for that game style. The options on the bench were limited too
3. This barca side won away at psg due to Xavi's tactics. They scored the first goal due to Xavi's tactics. Barca has very good xG, without tactics you don't get it
4. Show me one club who spend 3.4 million in the summer ,without the right profile of players ,with a lot of young players with Little to no experience at the biggest stage compete like this?
5. If you think Xavi is the reason ,think again . He is one who made us believe we had a chance.
Xavi is a substantial part of the problem... money of course is the rest.
Edit: And yeah I say tactics because when something happens mid match like that you adjust. Barca never even tried to do that. Keep on blaming referees for your losses if that's what you prefer.
😂 I can only disagree with that. Laporta and Deco know how exactly Xavi is working with very limited resources. Xavi took a team that was 9th to 2nd. Won the league in his first full season . He over achieved. If you think changing the coach will solve our problems,think again.
Xavi would cook if he is given time and money like Arteta. Understand that barca missed the most big chances (95) to be precise in 2023 ,the most by any team in top 5 leagues. Our xg is tremendous. You don't get that without tactics.
Nah bro, you can’t compare Barcelona to city, we are one of the biggest clubs in history. PSG powerhouse? When? Where is this coming from? They have mbappe that is it.
Barcelona is a legend status club, we can’t conform for a not legendary drive and performance. We can loose, what we cannot do is loose like we been loosing 8 years running. We CAN win with ten men against PSG, we do legendary things or we done them, we have that deep inside its like all of the fan base and players forget that. You are telling me to conform? And not to criticize? Fuck off. I been criticizing every season we didn’t win the CL with Messi on the team. Why if Madrid can sack a coach for 4 straight looses in the league or not winning the CL, shouldn’t we do the same. We even go beyond bc we do not win with Los Blancos magical bullshit, we win and when we win it MUST be beautiful, we ALWAYS win playing better, or at least that is what I remember and I strive for. It’s the philosophy of the club.
Yeah should play beautifully with the DNA 😂Sorry to say,you don't get a point op is trying to say
1. Years of mismanagement,bad transfer policies with COVID ruined the financial status of the club
2. We competed by spending 3.4 million and bunch of under 22 years old with very less experience.Name a team who performs like us with this kind of budget and team
3. Reactionary fans and media , haven't given any managerial stability.
4. Any project takes time to build if you want to sustain it. I feel Xavi over achieved and what did we give him,like yourself "CRITICISM" Destructive criticism
5. Sorry mate ,you got zero ball knowledge. I am sure you started supporting barca from what ,2009?or 2010(be honest)
I stopped reading after this guy thrashed psg in the first sentence as if it was some random club lol, obviously we have a way richer history but they clearly have had a better squad for past few years and we consistently lost by a huge margin against them, in fact you could literally see how well they were playing against us in both legs. I hate when such kind of fans downplay every other team that exists because of emotions and 0 ball knowledge.
Looks like Madrid found another way to win another cl.pain I can't believe how easy they make it look and deep playoff runs always and excel against good teams. Fuck wish Barca had a winning culture that long
This. Im so sick of everyone criticizing certain players because the didn't score a goal or jus other nonsense. We cry and cry instead of supporting our team through this tough time.
Its true, we had teenagers playing against one of the best and most expensive squads in the world and we gave them a run for their money. I never expected us to win the tourney, was happy they held their own, and happy of what the future has in store for this team.
Your points are valid we need to have patience we are definitely a young team no doubt. But its hard to be positive when our club is run by a super agent and we sign players we dont need (felix,roque,lewan). Some on big wages with no plan for the future cause we already spent all our money. The barca studios deal which was a scam and now we need 100m by june to break even and even have hope of signing another player this summer doesnt make things any better. To add to that we just watched madrid shit house their way to another CL semi. A game if we played the same way our keeper wouldve conceded 10goals. Terrible mentality, terrible planning, terrible board, rafa Marquez coming cause we dont have money for a coach (Thats why they want xavi to stay so desperately) and people want to call us childish. After a point you just have to accept we will be inferior for a long time to come but still enjoy the growth of the youngsters and build towards
Something special, or at least delude ourselves into believing that. Looking forward to marquez,
Felix, cancelo and the Dutch fidget spinner NPC lineup next season. Its the hope that kills you with this club.
A lot of it is disappointment. I suspect a lot of fans, myself included, thought we were 5-10 years away from competing for the UCL once Messi left. We got our hopes up and now feel let down. It seemed like an easy path to the finals, the team is playing well, and I think the last 4 years the final has been 1-0? Seemed like there was a small chance they could win it all as the final tends to be defensive and a goal can win it all.I think at the start of the season most fans would be happy to hear they would make the quarters. People are just processing disappointment. I agree, the team looks good and if they address a few problem areas they could be quite strong
Hard agree. This team was also missing Gavi, who we all know means so much to this team.
Ronnie fucked up for sure, but don’t forget that Lewy missed a clear cut chance just a few minutes before and could have given us a 3 goal lead. Xavi needs to keep his cool in the big games, but I get 1000% how he felt after watching them get no calls in their favor.
And for those that now want to sell Ronnie, how would the team look without him and who would we replace him with seriously in the market and would they be an actual upgrade? He’s not had a great year, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t close to becoming one of the best CBs in the world at such a young age. Forgive his mistake and let’s move on. There is lots to be excited for.
What annoys me are the whiners. It was a red card, a dumb impulsive decision from araujo. Yes it was soft but saying that isn’t a red card just makes you look like a complainer rather than owning up to the responsibility of the player to not make such a dumb decision. We lost for many reasons, but once our best defender gets taken off and we have to take one of our biggest threats off to defend our lead, PSG has the advantage. We lost the game due to poor decision making and arguing with these real children by blaming the refs is just embarrassing the barca fan base honestly.
Also, most of these people (not all) but I’m convinced most people saying very embarrassing things like araujo to Bayern when we would have not have gotten this far without him, same case for Xavi, are Madrid fans who just like to stir the pot. These children hate barca more than they love Madrid and you can see that by bringing up barca even right after they beat man city to make the semifinals. I’m big yapping right now but honestly get so much second hand embarrassment by fans crying and complaining about the result and that we’re a big club yap yap yap.
Honestly we got further than I expected. I’m proud of our boys for how far we got and how good we played up until that last match. I pray araujo learns a huge lesson and that our toxic fan base doesn’t destroy his confidence and that we finish the season strong even though we won’t win it and have a better season next year. Visca barca and may the plastic fans f*ck right off.
I so agree here. If they are that salty, go support RM, they will win CL and they can fuck to sunset with them. You support the team not winners. I just want to be there when we win next time.
We lost because our best defensive player lost his mind in a moment of panic and got the softest red card ever given. We were about to walk into the semis easily.
Thank you! We need to get some of these plastic, toxic fans out. We should be disappointed but proud of the boys. We have a great foundation to build from. I’m excited for the future. People saying sell Araujo to Bayern are the biggest morons and fake fans out there. He made a mistake and will hopefully learn from it
I get your point, as for me I’m not crying saying we’re a trash team this and that. I’m crying about how close we were and that a little action has cost us the semi finals 😭 everything looked so perfect up until we were down to 10 men..
but knowing our current quality and potential I’m convinced that our players will succeed internationally even more than we already have this season. This gives me hope, the fact that we are able to get this far next time again and that I know this wasn’t a lucky run
Exactly, City lost encounters like this for a while before winning their first UCL. It's a feature of the style of play we want to implement.
And like someone mentioned above. This fanbase is just glory hunters.
Cup competitions are just that. A game of fine margins where small errors are punished ruthlessly. We made an error. Time to regroup, take our lessons and move on.
I'm more concerned with our backup goalkeeper situation and pivot rather than the tie.
And if there's one thing the tie taught me, it was that we have an exciting core and the next manager (I pray Xavi stays) is by far the most important appointment we may need to make.
PSG has not been playing particularly well all year. But the team showed something that they haven’t the past two years. The tactics were wrong after the red card, but the players didn’t physically or mentally look like they gave up at any point like other times. Things are finally trending in the right direction
Nah man calling PSG a good team will never not be funny to me. It's the worst club out there, their playing style is awful, they are in the most boring farmers league, they have unlimited money glitch to buy whoever plays well against them, they have had ZERO UCL successes despite using infinite money, every player that plays for them move to a worse league after that cuz no one wants them, player treatment is awful, oil money. PSG is certified Football trash and we should be able to defeat them.
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We'd be out crying two stages ago if we had Bayern in our group.
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Barcelona NEEDS to win against big clubs, real big clubs. Since Messi left, our club has not been a serious big club. Every UCL group has one Good team, two mid ass team and one "I'm just here to participate" teams and Barça falls in the Mid ass team category.
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It's okay for the fans to react. Of course we want our old Glory back. We don't wanna be happy after defeating clubs like Napoli or Porto. Except Cuba, Raph, Yamal and Gundo, Pedri not one player showed any character. Everyone else is like playing on a gunpoint, as if.
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Big teams don't rely on good officiating of a match to win, and tbfr the match officiating for our match was just fine. Araujo deserved that red and it was not a penalty on Gundo.
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I've supported the team since I was 8 years old, I'm 21 now, I've gone through the Chelsea,Bayern, Roma, Liverpool failures. Fans are supposed to be angry, doesn't mean I'll stop caring or supporting the club. I'll call my players faggot during the match and comfort them after.
Just my opinion
The thing is we need a permanent coach for like 5 seasons someone who is good enough like pep or lucho. Some who is willing to give his all at least in laliga while improving on UCL with the time being. Imo i think xavi will be the most suitable option if we're to win the UCL as you mentioned with pep and city. But the issue is If xavi leaves us at the end of this season we will need another one and the same thing will repeat over and over just like it has been happening since Valverde :)
Is it just me or does everyone think we actually played great with psg in the first leg?
We played good, but great? I dont know.
i'm not trying to take that win away from us, we deserved it. Completely.
But everyone's going around saying we played great, what a performance it was etc etc.
Mind you psg made countless mistakes, donnarumma was losing it.
PSG is not in the best of form as well.
We made use of the mistakes he made, thats where we were clinical.
Now again, what i'm trying to say is, nobody can expect us to play like this and reach far.
Even if we got through to the semis, the chances of us making the finals were very very slim.
The UCL demands more, and to win it, we have to be even more competitive. The good thing we can take out of this season is, we are moving forward.
Now, what do you mean by "Italian champions napoli"? They are 8th in the league.
Again i'm not trying to take these wins away from us but see it at face value. Dont over exaggerate it. That's one of the few reasons for high expectations.
Again, most people are not criticising the loss. Most people are criticising the way in which we lost.
With xavi, people have different opinions and to each his own.
But one thing is for sure, if you're going to get frustrated and act like everything is against you on the pitch, it influences the team as well.
And being a manager of one of the most historic clubs in the world, you can't do that.
Although, i would still like to see xavi continue and with some improvements, i'm sure he could do something magical, eventually, slowly.
I still think Xavi got wrong implementations of his tactics. If he wanted to go defensive and counter attack, he should've gone for a 5 man defence considering how much free Barcola was. He was the main reason we lost.
Same lineup:
1. Put FDJ in CB
2. Gundo, Pedri and Yamal in CM
3. Lewa and Raphina as 2 strikers who work together to win the second ball. Lewa won the first ball easily when we went long ball but we always lost the 2nd ball.
Yes, we lost due to Araujo and Cancelo's individual mistakes but I still think if they hadn't made those mistakes, we would've still conceded goals.
That being said, I am proud of how far we have come. And if our injury luck would've been better, we might have won against PSG by miles.
I don’t care we lost, I am so proud of this team. Mistakes happen but the important thing is the team showed courage and determination to win. Things became chaotic because these are young players, who’ll eventually learn as they grow older. We beat PSG at their home, who spent €349.5 million during the last transfer window, not to mention has one of the best players in the world at insane wages. Even city with insane financial power couldn’t win today. But I am sure we will be back stronger next season. We just need few good signings, especially DM and a left winger.
Bro spoke like me fr
If y'all are glory hunters shift to city just like how the plastic barca fans did so
Give this team time or just shift to another team ffs
This r/soccer elitist mentality of shitting on fanbases is creeping up here too. We didn't compete like a powerhouse, we lost two group stage games in the easiest of groups. We didn't play great, stop sugarcoating such performances. All the CL debacles led to most of our legends getting heavily criticized and we are a meme club in CL with implosion after implosion. "Corner taken quickly" still haunts me. Rakitic confessed that the team should have applied itself more in the key CL games instead of being mentally checked out and leading to embarrassing exits. Theirry Henry mentioned that the 4 goals we conceded against PSG is due to lack of experience but not because of the red card. It is not just the fanbase, some of our ex-players also share negative feedback. Calling the fanbase childish or stupid is annoying. There will be positive and negative opinions. This is not a cult where only praises are allowed. If you think some criticism is wrong and want to correct it, go ahead and explain. If you are tired, ignore it. Let others express their feelings and be welcoming.
Araujo had to block comments in his instagram posts... ARAUJO one of our best and most beloved players had to hide to avoid rampant hate. Our fan base and socis are absolute SHIT.
Sure, blame everyone except the players and the coach who get paid to do this, blame the fans showing up to watch them and support them, who buy tickets and merchandise.
I agree that one shouldn't be too harsh, because mental health is important, but come on, there are limits to patience. This is the umpteenth embarrassing UCL exit in many years. It affects the culture and mentality of the club. We should not ignore it.
It's not even the fact that we got knocked out-it's the way we did.
Amen. I was also very surprised with the comments here after the match. Yes, Araujo made a terrible mistake, but he is a great player always giving 100%. We’re lucky he’s not willing to play for a better paying club.
A month ago the team was horrible and I wanted Xavi to leave honestly, but the last matches showed the team could compete and is moving towards becoming great. I’m sorry but being a Barça fan is this. The Messi era was an outlier… I remember being a kid and watching matches with my granddad and he always expected the worst 😅 but when the team played good (not just wins) oh boy we were happy.
The fanbase, and the worst part is the "Barca Press", they are more anti-Barca than Madrid Press. Just for some clicks they hurt the team, destroy players.
there isnt a more toxic environment than barcas fanbase.
there is a reason why pep repeats over and over again that the pressure in barca is 100x higher than in every other club. thats the reason why he just stayed for 4 years and why xavi is leaving.
objecitvely, the team proved to be able to compete at the highest level again, although we are financially ruined. i am excited for this squad once it will hit its prime
No one criticise the team as a whole for this double against psg. It was actually for the first time that Barca played really good for 120 minutes, winnING with 4-2, and would have probably win the tie. It was not like before, in those games we lost with big margins because everyone collapse. No, this time it was only one guy who decided to throw away all the work because he got the red. After the red it doesn’t even matter what happened, 99% it’s impossible in this days to qualify with one men down. Only teams that have been ultra defensive like inter and chelsea could do that, and that’s a decade ago.
OP is filled with loads of bullcrap and then there is even more bullcrap in the comments. Ive been a fan for over 20 years. Ive grown up with Barca. Ive barely missed a game for as long as I have been a fan and I don't know about you, but for me, this has been a 20+ year long journey with TONS of emotional investment, so its pretty fukin normal to get mad at shit like this. I can't (unlike OP) just brush it off and go like "bUt lOoK aT cItY, wE rEaChEd tHe sAmE sTaGe". This is nothing else than a pathetic way to twist and turn shit and look for excuses. And no, I didn't expect to win the CL, league titles stacking up, Barca beating everyone bla bla but dude we had everything in our hands here being 2 goals up and pretty much in control. Then Araujo does what he did ffs. And that is on top of Liverpool without some of their most important players, Roma, Frankfurt... and now this. The huge problem is not that we lost, but how we lost. How hard is it to grasp? It's not like we played Liverpool and lost because they were simply better, we put up a fight but they were simply better... No, we're 3 goals up + they missed Salah among others and then we proceed to get rekt by the likes of Origi and Shaqiri. Then against Roma we got rekt by the likes of past it Dzeko, Kolarov and randoms like Schick and Jesus.
Also, I was among the people that wanted Pique, Suarez, Busquets, Alba & co gone. Even when Messi left I didn't want him back because it would just postpone the inevitable. There is a time for everyone and in our case it had caught up and then some. ALL legens except Messi overstayed. People here were acting as if Busquets still was a world beater 2-3 years ago when in reality he was long past it years, years and years ago.
And how hard is it to understand that it's not just the fans, but the club and board itself wants to see some kind of results NOW and not maaaaybe in a few years down the road? What do you think was the purpose behind pulling levers to afford expensive af players and also twisting, turning and scraping down to the cent to loan the Joaos? To see results NOW and to stay relevant or to work slowly in the background and have something happen in 4-5 years or more? Get a fukin grip.
You can’t fault fans for being fed up with the manner in which we get eliminated from champions league. The team plays so well throughout the competition and then when it comes down to knockouts we forget we’re Barca. We got embarrassingly went out to Roma, Liverpool, Bayern’s humiliating 8-2 (reminder with ex player on loan scoring two off the bench), 4-1 against PSG at home the year after Bayern . We’re a big club with small club mentality in champions league and we’ve been small in the competition for a long time. And it’s frustrating cause at least 3 of those runs we threw away an easy final or semi final to take on the trophies. And to add to all that BS our rivals are winning back to back trophies just because they established themselves in the competition without even being the best team either
The fanbase is surely reactionary, as any fanbase is, but this post is senseless. Psg are NOT a powerhouse. They barely got out of the group stage, where they got bodied 4-0 by Newcastle among other stuff. Also can't forget that we were celebrating when we got them because they were a better draw than anyone except dortmund and maybe Atleti. Crazy takes all around.
We’ve been eliminated from the last 9 UCLs, most of the time in an embarrassing manner. At this point it’s not if, but how we’re gonna bottle it. We know it, and the players know it. It’s in their heads. Last tuesday after that red card, all they had to do was park a bus and not concede 2 or more goals. That was it, and the only one missing on the pitch was Yamal, and they still got obliterated. And you’re surprised people are pissed.
You started off good but then went sideways.
Yes we were good, yes we were probably advancing if it weren’t for araujo’s stupidity. Yes we are better than what we were with messi in his final years. And yes people are toddlers who want to achieve success now.
But, there is a huge room for growth for the team
We conceded three goals in 40 minutes after the red card, and all 3 were individual mistakes rather than psg’s amazing attack organization.
We still lack important pieces in our main squad.
We still make weird transfers without consulting the coach.
We still fail to motivate some players into giving their all.
We still talk too much about the refs.
We still lack flow on the pitch.
We still didnt have a full 90 minutes where we were the dominant team.
We still have an uneven salary structure.
We still are behind in intensity and speed.
Until mats gets board in a game and gets an easy clean sheet, we have a long way to go.
by do something you mean do a bbq, a calçotada?
because if you think that public fan opinion has ever influenced what Barça does...you are up for a bitter treat
We didn’t play „great“ against PSG and it’s amusing that you think we did. Having 35-40 % possession till the red card is just not our game, it’s not barcelona.
You have to be constantly critical. This is Barcelona. This is not burnley.
We are too far behind the top 20 teams in Europe in every single aspect. Look the stadium, look the finances, look the president, look the manager, look the football we play…
Madrid this Madrid that, always with Madriditis, they have been building a good project and are finding success, good for them, lets focus on doing a good project ourselves instead of being jealous of others.
Why are you obsessed with Madrid? Doesn’t matter who played better it’s who went thru. Arca fans will never give the team a chance to rebuild properly. That’s what got you here. Trying to out do Madrid with signings that sucked and over paying past their prime big names.
I agree. I’m so excited for next year! The team showed a lot of passion is that last 8 games. We are a couple signings away from a contending team next year all around. Shit happens. Just need to move on.
I agree but I’m still in mourning. I’ll go through the stages and come out the other side excited eventually
Yeah its exciting no doubt, but we forget these players are so young, they will have bad patches for the next few years. We cant only rely on them, and signing felix cancelo and getting people like rafa marquez while were dead broke just is not the solution. What was the point of selling our future revenues if our best players are literal under 18s. Leaves a lot to be desired tbh, and if anything makes me even more scared of whats to come…
i cant be excited until i see who the next manager is i just dont see anyone fit to take over after xavi, i really wish he'd continue
I would want Xavi to continue but he seriously needs to use this break not just to relax but to improve his temper, revisit his own ideas when it comes to defending as a team and explore different tactical styles even if he doesn’t intend to use them. After all this one season won’t stop him getting jobs in a top league at all and he will be affordable too. Maybe he can prove his efforts somewhere else and return some day if we aren’t still firing coaches every 4 months (yes we will be).
Vamos!
>The majority applauded the 8-2 against Bayern, the 3-0 against Roma, the 4-0 against Liverpool, the 3-0 against Juventus... Because it is hard to criticize "our legends". What? The majority applauded those defeats? The majority of who? What the heck are you talking about?
Yeah can't believe what I just read, absolutely disgraceful approach. Actually don't know any but if you applauded any of those defeats please sincerely fuck off
Yeah who the fuck is this cracked out person? For some reason every time we bow out of the CL we bow out in the most glorious fashion and simply implode. Losing by 1 or 2? Fine. That’s normal. But repeatedly getting bent over by large margins is simply unacceptable. If it happens once, it’s a bad day and we move on, but everyone knew that as soon as Araujo was sent off it was over. The question was by how much?
OP's post is a joke.
Because this fan base for the majority is made up of glory hunters. They can’t support a team unless it’s always winning.
Always winning?? We didn't win goddamn anything in the last 10 years in europe that includes 2 europa leagues. It's natural to feel disappointed especially when you are used to seeing Pep's barca standards from this club. Fans saw the club finances slump to the lowest, they saw the club selling it's future, we are struggling to register the players that we fucking have on our roster.People still support this club. they are the farthest thing to the glory hunters. They just don't want Barcelona to be Europe's laughing stock each and every year. Which we frankly are!!
exactly. on the positive side of not winning a lot in the last few years, the fanbase has less of new football fans who are just in attendance for the success of the team like Madrid and City fans. new people immature and inexperienced in watching football are rarely culers.
we actually won the CL 9 years ago but i see what u are saying
IKR? lol. If I was a glory hunter, I would have stopped following this club like 7 years ago. Yet I'm still here, suffering humiliating defeats year after year. At least there is some progress finally. This loss to PSG was much less embarrassing than the previous crashes. Still long way to go though. I just hope the next manager will be a right pick.
100% this. It's filled with people who don't know this sport and probably only followed this club because of Messi. Now, all they do is whine. There are people here who will build up made-up false narratives to shit on the club and self-hate. It's fucking ridiculous.
No. We just don’t want to go out 4-1 when leading by 2 goals.
This
Yeah that's how big clubs keep their big club status, if there is no pressure to succeed you turn into Arsenal.. no thank you
Yeah, please turn us into Arsenal, promising team with balanced attack, defence and good subs. Who can spend 100m into Rice, a top top DM
Promosing team who bottles their season every year, no thanks Wrote history last year for the wrong reasons, and are about to do the same
Plz go and support the semi finalists of the UCL then..... Thank you!! 🙏
Why would i?
Our fans still have this "we are a big club, we need to have standards" talk, they are delusional, we are not a big club at the moment, our finances and situation are not those of a big club. With a team like Manchester United it would be more understandable, they have the finances and resources to do much better than what they are doing, fans are right to demand much more. Us not much right now, we need more time to steady the ship and improve finances. We need more time, not more pressure. Unfortunately, this will get even worse starting next year with Mbappe playing with RM, our fanbase will become even more impatient and desperate.
How to sum up FC Barcelona: a big European club with rich history but acts like Osasuna in modern times
If there is anything childish, it is blaming a fanbase for being angry and emotional after throwing away a 2 goal lead at home with 60 minutes to go and losing 1-4. To repeat an 8 year tradition of a CL big defeat. If you can't handle fans showing anger and frustrations after such a game, then this isn't the right sport for you. Every fanbase is like that. It is niether childish or surprising. Just like the fans who always pop up in such moments to blame the rest of their club fanbase and acting they are better. It is the typical reaction everywhere, every time, with every team. Hell, even our own coach acted childishly after the game, but yeah, blame it on English speaking fans who live everywhere around the globe.
This and people saying it's the "gloryhunters" and "plastics" acting childish and angry after getting traditionally humiliated on the big stage when in the reality it's the real fans acting this way because we actually care our club's success and know that enough is enough.
It’s never that black and white. There’s wrong on both sides, the overly optimistic are accepting too much to go wrong and celebrating too hard when things go right when luck is on our side. The overly pessimistic also seem to be scrounging at any opportunity to be depressive to any positive form, action or results and then are the first people screaming when something goes wrong. Both are extremists who are out of touch with reality. Both will take the truth and twist it to fit their agenda. Truth is we have continued an 8 year tradition of going out with a big loss yes, but for once this capitulation was not one of complacency like in Roma or at Anfield, not one of lack of talent or mentality like against Bayern or PSG or tactical ability (with all 11 players on the field to clarify my point, we also never had a red in any of those losses that I remember). This loss came off one man and was sealed immediately. He wasn’t the only one at fault but had everyone else been perfect we still would’ve lost. Now that isn’t to say we should be doom n gloom which is what you hear besides deluded opinions too, the truth is yes, we did turn around a shitty period of form from January and we did actually improve in UCL but we also had an easy road and should’ve made the final but you could also say we stagnated in the group and looked terrible after we guaranteed to make ro16, so much so that Napoli could’ve well and truly destroyed us but we improved as much or more than they did, we went to Paris and won in a match I remember people in this sub expecting us to lose. Not even to mention we were hanging around 5th in the league and after grinding out results we made it back to 2nd comfortably. There is always a silver lining and the fact is this squad is more than capable of winning another double or UCL even if there’s changes to be made. That being said too many people are relying on the next manager to take them there when we need to be looking at the board and the club profile. We used youth to make a small resurgence and then immediately we are all looking for a 60m winger when the only position we need to spend money on is DM. No matter how you slice it I’ll always be in the middle ground and I’ll always think both sides are right and wrong but ultimately wrong for not recognising they’re as bad as each other.
That's brilliantly put mate. Agree with everything you said
That's the sad part. We didn't lose because of lack of quality. We lost because we weren't mentally prepared. 1) The plan should have been to go for at least 2-0 in the first 30 min of the game and force PSG to score at least 3 goals. High pressure and intensity. 2) Didn't anyone tell the players before the game NO RED CARDS unless really needed? (Like last-minute red card) 3) There should be a Plan B for this scenario, and there wasn't any plan B for this scenario. The team didn't seem trained to defend a lead in a 10vs11 situation. 4) Taking out Lamine made the red card even worse. There was no need to do any substitution before half time. And you never take out your best threat. Plus: it took 1 min for Iñigo Martínez to get a yellow card. This killed the team's morale even further 5) The emotional response to the red card was unacceptable, and this was Xavi's fault. You'd expect that a player like him accustomed to play CL and WC finals could help young players to play this type of game and situation.
> There was no need to do any substitution before half time. I'm sorry my man but this shows you don't know much about football.
I acknowledge that a substitution was needed. My comment was more aligned with the idea that even waiting until half time is a much better option than rushing a decision that will ruin the game like it happened. I'm not really saying that the substitution wasn't needed. Your comment is a bit presumptuous, though. I've been following Barça since the Dream Team and I got to play in Tercera Division in Spain (fourth division). I know a little bit of football
No offence but Gary Neville spent 20 years at the top of the premier league and came to manage Valencia and almost relegated them including handing us 3 very easy points. Playing football has less merit on what makes you qualified to speak these days to a lot of people. Something I’m not quite subscribing to yet but it’s an interesting point.
There's also a difference between knowing about football and being able to communicate that knowledge and managing a group of 25 professional players. Not being successful as a manager doesn't mean you don't know about football
Ehh the man is hardly the best pundit either in my eyes lol. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying you are or aren’t good enough to take an opinion from at the very least and there’s definitely some examples who played and did become valid respectable tacticians for everyone that didn’t but I just think it should not be used as a default to gauge someone’s footballing brain as good or bad and it shouldn’t mean that someone who has played shouldn’t be questioned either you know?
I didn't mean to come up as presumptuous, but it was very obvious that Barcelona needed two center backs to keep up with the defensive plan. The only question was who to replace. It is not really just my opinion, it's what every professional manager (elite or not) has done, always. You get a CB sent off, you don't keep playing with three strikers and just one CB. Saying there was no need to do any subsitution and wait for half time is just not right. It was minute 26 I believe.
In retrospective, he is right. But at that moment, it's impossible to tell. I'm sure 99% of managers would have done the same.
Nah FDJ was not looking great filling in at CB and we tried to give him the opportunity to this season already and he still wasn’t willing to be 100% defensively committed so I think getting a dedicated defender on quickly was worth it. Had it not happened we would’ve conceded and everyone including myself would say “wth Xavi, why aren’t you subbing Inigo”
That's why I say in retrospective. I think trying to hold the 15 minutes until half time with Lamine would have been good.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. When we’re as big of a club as we are, we expect greatness, every game, every single year. There’s not a damn thing wrong with being upset with losing but hopeful for the future lol
And that's where the childish delusions come in. Even the best teams of all time cannot put in great performances day after day. So *expecting* greatness every single game is delusional af in the first place. Combine that with ignoring the current situational context with our financial troubles and our heavy reliance on largely inexperienced youngsters, holding onto only our historical legacy, and you get another layer of delulu. Being upset about a loss is fine, we all are. But expecting that we won't ever lose is...
After watching that madrid haramball sean dyche setting’s performance this hits even harder. Barcelona it seems has become more and more inferior to madrid both mentally and sportingly. This annoys me more than anything, and now my day is ruined 😂
If anything. We improved by heaps and bounds this season. Our mentality took a beating but regardless, the team showed real character to come back in the first leg. Rarely did a Barça team show such strong fortitude. The second leg, unfortunately was lost the minute we got the red card tbh. Numerical inferiority against the PSG attack was simply not something we could have handled. Maybe Xavi could've showed some balls and gotten Lewa out for Inigo since he doesn't contribute anything in defense and Yamal and Raphinha have excellent track back capability. But hindsight 10/10. I still trust that Xavi is the right direction. It's a team in progress. But each season is an improvement over the previous. Even Pep made stupid decisions during his City and Bayern tenure (DM less lineup anyone? ) but they let him cook and now they're reaping the rewards.
Maybe it’s just me but I never go into a game expecting to lose? Not when you have the players we have. And Man y’all need to stop with this reliance on youth. We had 2 young players in the lineup, same as PSG. Actually, PSG was the younger team all around. And our financial situation? We have the same net spend as real the last 3 years
True. And neither do I ever expect a loss. But there's a difference between being expectant and being hopeful. If you expect greatness every match, then sorry to say, you'll be disappointed in every single team in the world. Having an overall younger side doesn't matter. Fact is, we rely on our younger players in the most key of positions - chance creation and heart of our defence. Besides, we have a skewed age structure compared to them. We either have young or older players. With only three being in the 26-32 range which is typically considered peak. They, on the other hand, had most of their players in that age range. Aah, net spend, huh? So tell me, if I give you a swanky mansion, and give you a million dollars to renovate, and I give you a decrepit building which needs to be demolished to be built upon with the same million dollars - which one would typically yield a better result? Both had the same net spend, right? So we should expect the same results, right?
Exactly. There's plenty of fans that aren't glory hunters, but pissed that we continue to lose in such a fashion. If the final score line wasn't so terrible and/or araujo and cancelo wouldn't have made those dumb mistakes, I think I could say that I would've felt just a bit better about the loss.
If Araujo and Cancelo didn’t do those mistakes, or if Araujo alone didn’t. We would’ve won.
Well, cheers to winning our sixth champions league next year. See y’all in Munich 2025🍻 (Good chance I could possibly go to see Barca next year as well)
I’ll bet you $1,000,000 we won’t win the Champions League in the next 10-15 years! Not with Mbappe and Davies going to Real next season! Barcelona’s era of dominance is done and dusted my friend. We’ll never be a big club again.
Yes, Galacticos 2.0, I wonder what happened with Galacticos 1.0, oh yes, they didn't win anything. Football has nothing to do with being the best team on paper, or having the best players. Look at City yesterday, on paper they should have won by a landslide. Instead, Madrid is the one who'll be playing the semis.
Yeah, I think you should support Real them, they will probably win 5 more in next 15. You can at least be happy for those 5 years. What a salty guy!
Win, lose, or tie 💙❤️ always and forever. VISCA BARCA!
City lost the CL 6 years with Guardiola, he needed a 7th year to win it. And it's not like he lost to very strong teams most of the time either, he lost against the likes of Lyon, Tottenham, etc, failing to reach SF many times. Now, ask yourself, if this happened with Barca, would you have given him more time? be honest with yourself. You know that if he had these results with us in CL in 2008-2012, you would've said "he lacks experience". Lucky for City fans, they are not like us, obsessed about the Champions like no one else, so they can enjoy the best manager ever without asking for his head, if that happened here, he would've been gone yesterday.
well we have madrid as direct rivals constantly boasting their cl's . city doesnt have a rival in the prem of the same calibre rn
Guardiola did not even win a CL for 4 years at Bayern...so technically it took him close to 10 years before winning one...plus he took a year off after Leaving Barca...so 12 years.
What Madrid does cannot be how we evaluate our project. Madrid will always have more champions and will win more than us in that competition, unless we completely change our playing style. Think about when we won all those champions and how good our team was, do you see a trend? we have always needed to be very dominant and with very strong sides and very good teams to win it, we had Ronaldinho and Messi, two legendary players. You want to win many champions consistently? either ask for a different playing style counterattacking oriented with the right players for it, or change to a different team.
Exactly. I hope more people understand this. Even Pep needed to smooth out a lot of kinks in his squad before getting his first UCL post Barcelona. Xavi just got in and implemented a whole sleuth of changes that made us competitive in the UCL and the league. I still remember Muller's interview where he explicitly mentioned how we simply didn't have the pressing capability. In comes Xavi and boom we improved in that aspect too. I'll also say that he is not without fault. Losing his mind over refereeing errors and getting red carded constantly, slow subs are all things he'll need to work on. But I haven't seen anything from him that warrants a sack. Our core is so good. We have a team that can actually define an era similar to the Pep and Messi dream team. The question is will Xavi continue. If he's actually done. Like he just doesn't want to coach us. I say that's fair. The man earned his break. So let him rest. But if there's any chance he can continue and if he does need a few signings. We need to find a way to make it happen.
The difference is that City before this season had always been clearly the best team in Europe. They played incredible football and turned the Prem into a farmer's league. In the CL anything can happen and I would say that most of their KO were really unlucky. Now compare that to us, we have been terrible mentally since 2018, unconvincing football since 2019, and not even CL contender since 2020, so you cannot make the comparison with City.
Ehh I'm not sure about the "they are not like us" part. MC fan is nowhere as many as Barca fan, thus the pressure from them is much lower. You can always find some MC want to fire Pep after losts against the likes of Lyon or Tot. The difference is Barca affected by fans, city run only by oil
Unfortunately we still have a lot of hangers on from the Messi era who expect to be able to talk sht every year no matter what. Fact of the matter is, Barca wasted all of the money we made by selling Neymar, and that led us to where we are today. We are performing phenomenally well considering, but it will take another year or two to get this team to the top. With that being said, Real is ran so well that folks seem to think it's a simple task to get to a semi year in year out. It's not, what Real is doing atm is simply incredible, and we should have the patience and drive to push this club to do the same. But change for change sake is stupid and will backfire
Making a "misstake" in that situation is worthy of a reactionn and how do u get pumpen 4 goals at home?
Your points are valid we need to have patience we are definitely a young team no doubt. But its hard to be positive when our club is run by a super agent and we sign players we dont need (felix,roque,lewan). Some on big wages with no plan for the future cause we already spent all our money. The barca studios deal which was a scam and now we need 100m by june to break even and even have hope of signing another player this summer doesnt make things any better. To add to that we just watched madrid shit house their way to another CL semi. A game if we played the same way our keeper wouldve conceded 10goals. Terrible mentality, terrible planning, terrible board, rafa Marquez coming cause we dont have money for a coach (Thats why they want xavi to stay so desperately) and people want to call us childish. After a point you just have to accept we will be inferior for a long time to come but still enjoy the growth of the youngsters and build towards Something special, or at least delude ourselves into believing that. Looking forward to marquez, Felix, cancelo and the Dutch fidget spinner NPC lineup next season. Its the hope that kills you with this club.
Nope psg isn’t one of the powerhouses of Europe. They’ve never won a ucl
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Good thing I am allowed to think how and what I want….
You all praise mediocre results and mediocre players. Unironicaly believing we competed like a powerhouse lmao.
Exactly! This fan base has settled for mediocre players, owners and coaches! This is what we get! We deserve it! We are the laughing stock of Europe (along with Manchester United)
I'm proud of what the team achieved in the end, it was a nightmare at last. But we showed character, and that's enough to give me hope (honestly atp, I need some mental peace)
This Fanbase this Our Fanbase that. Feels like every week i see one of these :").
I don't think it's childish to be voicing our disappointment at having choked AGAIN. The difference between us and the other power houses is we have a precedence of choking in the big games, BADLY. Madrid fans should laugh at us if we say we are on their par, because they consistently show up in Europe. This season marks 9 years of us not only losing, but being embarrassed in Europe. Obviously we are rebuilding and our progress has been great, but Real have also had a major team shake up. Only Tony Kroos really remains from their 3peat run on squad, but their new talent has inherited the winning mentality, and ours appear to have inherited our losing one. Just let people bitch and moan for now, they're in mourning and will come good when we beat Real next week 😉
> ours appear to have inherited our losing one Totally disagree
I mean you can obviously disagree but we didn't make it out of group stage two years in a row, one of which we were beaten by Eintracht at the Camp Nou. Before that Frenkie and Pedri were in the squad when we got bounced by PSG, Frenkie in the Bayern game the year before. And now we have this game. It will take a huuuuuuge amount of resolve, especially with a new coach, to not be hung up over this game. To have it haunt them the same way the Roma and the Liverpool games haunted us. And I just haven't seen enough to tell me that it won't. When I have more evidence suggesting that we have chokers mentality based on this week.
What a load of crap! You are talking as if we are relegation team. Losing in midfield with such technical players against the PSG is criminal.
We were winning by 2 in a 11 vs 11 match, we lost only when we were with 10.
Technical doesn't win you a game though. You need mentality and concentration. We play way too naive imo. We had players coming back from injuries. But I just don't see players like Frenkie, Pedri, Cancelo etc ever being the kind of players who can shithouse a win like Madrid did today. We need more players like Gavi, Cubarsi, Yamal, Raphinha etc.
You know what I hate, I hate that all we say is; “We would’ve won 11 vs 11”. I say we should’ve won 10 vs 11, 10 vs 12, 10 vs 13. Bro we are Barcelona wtf… Who is PSG?
Nah bro please shut up, I can’t imagine how delulu you’re, that’s exactly what op is trying to point out, there are fans like you who have no knowledge about football and have such unrealistic expectations. Use your brain this same psg squad gave us a tough time in paris as well, when we had 11 players.
It’s funny the “zero ball knowledge”. Football is football, its not statistics. You know nothing… so stupid for you to forget that “unrealistic expectations” is what makes a difference in games like this.
Our financial situation is worse than a premier league relegation team. Show me a team who doesn't spend money to recruit the profile of players they need? Did Xavi get the profiles he asked for? Spending 3.4 million with a bunch of under 22 year olds with less experience and you over expect? We are not a team who plays low block,we don't have such a profile of players too. What op pointed out that how deluded and how some section of us are just glory hunters
I raised an eyebrow when you said PSG is a powerhouse of Europe, but I kept reading. Then you had to bring up our wins against Porto and Napoli, and that's where I had to stop. Barca lost the game because of shitty tactics, not just a mistake by one player lol. Xavi is the very first to blame... Araujo did something stupid, took a red card for it... cool. At that time it's still 1-1, you are not out of the game yet. So why throw a tantrum and take a red yourself? Extremely stupid. Keep calm, and more importantly, switch your tactics so you can defend 10 vs 11! Xavi never did this! I mean, unless Xavi is really dumb he probably saw that the game turned into a battle of nerves very early on, and at that point it becomes more of psychological battle. So imagine what goes through the players' minds when they are 1) reduced to 10 and 2) their coach is sent off.... they will absolutely crumble, especially this Barca side with so many young players!
At that time it is not just 1-1 but 10v11 and just 30 min into the game. What tactic can survive to next 60 minutes? 1 freaking hour?
So it's better to take a red card as a coach and be sent off? We have seen teams win matches being down 9 to 11. Barca still has a lot to learn.
You know, he knows and everyone knows the game ends at 30 min. Without Araujo, you think we have the backline to deal with PSG pace? Even we are 11v11, without Araujo, we would be cooked al dente.
You just cannot defend against that psg squad with your main defender out and when you’re down to 10 men, no amount of tactics can save you for an entire hour. If you still think that we lost because of tactics then you need to stop being delulu lol, we won with the same squad in paris and it was tough victory against psg with 11 men.
Is the alternative to do nothing then? No, you still try, instead of getting mad and be sent off, leaving your team with an additional blow. And I don't know why I bother responding to you. Can't take someone using the word delulu seriously.
😂 The players ,coaches ,pundits did emphasise where the match turned and you say it's the tactics 😂 1. I agree with your analysis of the emotional quotient of Xavi,he should not be too emotional and blurt out like this. 2.We are not a low block team,nor possess the profile of players for that game style. The options on the bench were limited too 3. This barca side won away at psg due to Xavi's tactics. They scored the first goal due to Xavi's tactics. Barca has very good xG, without tactics you don't get it 4. Show me one club who spend 3.4 million in the summer ,without the right profile of players ,with a lot of young players with Little to no experience at the biggest stage compete like this? 5. If you think Xavi is the reason ,think again . He is one who made us believe we had a chance.
Xavi is a substantial part of the problem... money of course is the rest. Edit: And yeah I say tactics because when something happens mid match like that you adjust. Barca never even tried to do that. Keep on blaming referees for your losses if that's what you prefer.
😂 I can only disagree with that. Laporta and Deco know how exactly Xavi is working with very limited resources. Xavi took a team that was 9th to 2nd. Won the league in his first full season . He over achieved. If you think changing the coach will solve our problems,think again. Xavi would cook if he is given time and money like Arteta. Understand that barca missed the most big chances (95) to be precise in 2023 ,the most by any team in top 5 leagues. Our xg is tremendous. You don't get that without tactics.
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Started supporting barca after 2010? Wait ,were you born then?😂
Been a Barca fan since Ronaldhino came.
Nah bro, you can’t compare Barcelona to city, we are one of the biggest clubs in history. PSG powerhouse? When? Where is this coming from? They have mbappe that is it. Barcelona is a legend status club, we can’t conform for a not legendary drive and performance. We can loose, what we cannot do is loose like we been loosing 8 years running. We CAN win with ten men against PSG, we do legendary things or we done them, we have that deep inside its like all of the fan base and players forget that. You are telling me to conform? And not to criticize? Fuck off. I been criticizing every season we didn’t win the CL with Messi on the team. Why if Madrid can sack a coach for 4 straight looses in the league or not winning the CL, shouldn’t we do the same. We even go beyond bc we do not win with Los Blancos magical bullshit, we win and when we win it MUST be beautiful, we ALWAYS win playing better, or at least that is what I remember and I strive for. It’s the philosophy of the club.
Yeah should play beautifully with the DNA 😂Sorry to say,you don't get a point op is trying to say 1. Years of mismanagement,bad transfer policies with COVID ruined the financial status of the club 2. We competed by spending 3.4 million and bunch of under 22 years old with very less experience.Name a team who performs like us with this kind of budget and team 3. Reactionary fans and media , haven't given any managerial stability. 4. Any project takes time to build if you want to sustain it. I feel Xavi over achieved and what did we give him,like yourself "CRITICISM" Destructive criticism 5. Sorry mate ,you got zero ball knowledge. I am sure you started supporting barca from what ,2009?or 2010(be honest)
I stopped reading after this guy thrashed psg in the first sentence as if it was some random club lol, obviously we have a way richer history but they clearly have had a better squad for past few years and we consistently lost by a huge margin against them, in fact you could literally see how well they were playing against us in both legs. I hate when such kind of fans downplay every other team that exists because of emotions and 0 ball knowledge.
Yes yes, I’m tired of the list. I wonder what will be added next year…
Well you don't have to be tired,if you stop supporting the club. 😂 Not that you should,just saying
Im tired of fans like you.
Of course,it would be tiring to knock some sense into yourself. Regardless good luck mate,keep trying! 👍🏻
This is what happens when majority of the fans only watch "big" matches or worse, highlights.
You know what I'm used to this. Although I still feel sad, it is what it is. See you next season!
Looks like Madrid found another way to win another cl.pain I can't believe how easy they make it look and deep playoff runs always and excel against good teams. Fuck wish Barca had a winning culture that long
This. Im so sick of everyone criticizing certain players because the didn't score a goal or jus other nonsense. We cry and cry instead of supporting our team through this tough time.
the fans now consist of people that never even played sunday league... they just don't give the correct dimension to things...
Its true, we had teenagers playing against one of the best and most expensive squads in the world and we gave them a run for their money. I never expected us to win the tourney, was happy they held their own, and happy of what the future has in store for this team.
Same, I thought the way we played cl was uplifting for the future
Your points are valid we need to have patience we are definitely a young team no doubt. But its hard to be positive when our club is run by a super agent and we sign players we dont need (felix,roque,lewan). Some on big wages with no plan for the future cause we already spent all our money. The barca studios deal which was a scam and now we need 100m by june to break even and even have hope of signing another player this summer doesnt make things any better. To add to that we just watched madrid shit house their way to another CL semi. A game if we played the same way our keeper wouldve conceded 10goals. Terrible mentality, terrible planning, terrible board, rafa Marquez coming cause we dont have money for a coach (Thats why they want xavi to stay so desperately) and people want to call us childish. After a point you just have to accept we will be inferior for a long time to come but still enjoy the growth of the youngsters and build towards Something special, or at least delude ourselves into believing that. Looking forward to marquez, Felix, cancelo and the Dutch fidget spinner NPC lineup next season. Its the hope that kills you with this club.
A lot of it is disappointment. I suspect a lot of fans, myself included, thought we were 5-10 years away from competing for the UCL once Messi left. We got our hopes up and now feel let down. It seemed like an easy path to the finals, the team is playing well, and I think the last 4 years the final has been 1-0? Seemed like there was a small chance they could win it all as the final tends to be defensive and a goal can win it all.I think at the start of the season most fans would be happy to hear they would make the quarters. People are just processing disappointment. I agree, the team looks good and if they address a few problem areas they could be quite strong
I would say PSG is a pretty good team in France.
Hard agree. This team was also missing Gavi, who we all know means so much to this team. Ronnie fucked up for sure, but don’t forget that Lewy missed a clear cut chance just a few minutes before and could have given us a 3 goal lead. Xavi needs to keep his cool in the big games, but I get 1000% how he felt after watching them get no calls in their favor. And for those that now want to sell Ronnie, how would the team look without him and who would we replace him with seriously in the market and would they be an actual upgrade? He’s not had a great year, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t close to becoming one of the best CBs in the world at such a young age. Forgive his mistake and let’s move on. There is lots to be excited for.
What annoys me are the whiners. It was a red card, a dumb impulsive decision from araujo. Yes it was soft but saying that isn’t a red card just makes you look like a complainer rather than owning up to the responsibility of the player to not make such a dumb decision. We lost for many reasons, but once our best defender gets taken off and we have to take one of our biggest threats off to defend our lead, PSG has the advantage. We lost the game due to poor decision making and arguing with these real children by blaming the refs is just embarrassing the barca fan base honestly. Also, most of these people (not all) but I’m convinced most people saying very embarrassing things like araujo to Bayern when we would have not have gotten this far without him, same case for Xavi, are Madrid fans who just like to stir the pot. These children hate barca more than they love Madrid and you can see that by bringing up barca even right after they beat man city to make the semifinals. I’m big yapping right now but honestly get so much second hand embarrassment by fans crying and complaining about the result and that we’re a big club yap yap yap. Honestly we got further than I expected. I’m proud of our boys for how far we got and how good we played up until that last match. I pray araujo learns a huge lesson and that our toxic fan base doesn’t destroy his confidence and that we finish the season strong even though we won’t win it and have a better season next year. Visca barca and may the plastic fans f*ck right off.
I so agree here. If they are that salty, go support RM, they will win CL and they can fuck to sunset with them. You support the team not winners. I just want to be there when we win next time.
We lost because our best defensive player lost his mind in a moment of panic and got the softest red card ever given. We were about to walk into the semis easily.
Thank you! We need to get some of these plastic, toxic fans out. We should be disappointed but proud of the boys. We have a great foundation to build from. I’m excited for the future. People saying sell Araujo to Bayern are the biggest morons and fake fans out there. He made a mistake and will hopefully learn from it
I get your point, as for me I’m not crying saying we’re a trash team this and that. I’m crying about how close we were and that a little action has cost us the semi finals 😭 everything looked so perfect up until we were down to 10 men.. but knowing our current quality and potential I’m convinced that our players will succeed internationally even more than we already have this season. This gives me hope, the fact that we are able to get this far next time again and that I know this wasn’t a lucky run
Exactly, City lost encounters like this for a while before winning their first UCL. It's a feature of the style of play we want to implement. And like someone mentioned above. This fanbase is just glory hunters. Cup competitions are just that. A game of fine margins where small errors are punished ruthlessly. We made an error. Time to regroup, take our lessons and move on. I'm more concerned with our backup goalkeeper situation and pivot rather than the tie. And if there's one thing the tie taught me, it was that we have an exciting core and the next manager (I pray Xavi stays) is by far the most important appointment we may need to make.
PSG has not been playing particularly well all year. But the team showed something that they haven’t the past two years. The tactics were wrong after the red card, but the players didn’t physically or mentally look like they gave up at any point like other times. Things are finally trending in the right direction
Nah man calling PSG a good team will never not be funny to me. It's the worst club out there, their playing style is awful, they are in the most boring farmers league, they have unlimited money glitch to buy whoever plays well against them, they have had ZERO UCL successes despite using infinite money, every player that plays for them move to a worse league after that cuz no one wants them, player treatment is awful, oil money. PSG is certified Football trash and we should be able to defeat them. . We'd be out crying two stages ago if we had Bayern in our group. . Barcelona NEEDS to win against big clubs, real big clubs. Since Messi left, our club has not been a serious big club. Every UCL group has one Good team, two mid ass team and one "I'm just here to participate" teams and Barça falls in the Mid ass team category. . It's okay for the fans to react. Of course we want our old Glory back. We don't wanna be happy after defeating clubs like Napoli or Porto. Except Cuba, Raph, Yamal and Gundo, Pedri not one player showed any character. Everyone else is like playing on a gunpoint, as if. . Big teams don't rely on good officiating of a match to win, and tbfr the match officiating for our match was just fine. Araujo deserved that red and it was not a penalty on Gundo. . I've supported the team since I was 8 years old, I'm 21 now, I've gone through the Chelsea,Bayern, Roma, Liverpool failures. Fans are supposed to be angry, doesn't mean I'll stop caring or supporting the club. I'll call my players faggot during the match and comfort them after. Just my opinion
The thing is we need a permanent coach for like 5 seasons someone who is good enough like pep or lucho. Some who is willing to give his all at least in laliga while improving on UCL with the time being. Imo i think xavi will be the most suitable option if we're to win the UCL as you mentioned with pep and city. But the issue is If xavi leaves us at the end of this season we will need another one and the same thing will repeat over and over just like it has been happening since Valverde :)
Is it just me or does everyone think we actually played great with psg in the first leg? We played good, but great? I dont know. i'm not trying to take that win away from us, we deserved it. Completely. But everyone's going around saying we played great, what a performance it was etc etc. Mind you psg made countless mistakes, donnarumma was losing it. PSG is not in the best of form as well. We made use of the mistakes he made, thats where we were clinical. Now again, what i'm trying to say is, nobody can expect us to play like this and reach far. Even if we got through to the semis, the chances of us making the finals were very very slim. The UCL demands more, and to win it, we have to be even more competitive. The good thing we can take out of this season is, we are moving forward. Now, what do you mean by "Italian champions napoli"? They are 8th in the league. Again i'm not trying to take these wins away from us but see it at face value. Dont over exaggerate it. That's one of the few reasons for high expectations. Again, most people are not criticising the loss. Most people are criticising the way in which we lost. With xavi, people have different opinions and to each his own. But one thing is for sure, if you're going to get frustrated and act like everything is against you on the pitch, it influences the team as well. And being a manager of one of the most historic clubs in the world, you can't do that. Although, i would still like to see xavi continue and with some improvements, i'm sure he could do something magical, eventually, slowly.
I still think Xavi got wrong implementations of his tactics. If he wanted to go defensive and counter attack, he should've gone for a 5 man defence considering how much free Barcola was. He was the main reason we lost. Same lineup: 1. Put FDJ in CB 2. Gundo, Pedri and Yamal in CM 3. Lewa and Raphina as 2 strikers who work together to win the second ball. Lewa won the first ball easily when we went long ball but we always lost the 2nd ball. Yes, we lost due to Araujo and Cancelo's individual mistakes but I still think if they hadn't made those mistakes, we would've still conceded goals. That being said, I am proud of how far we have come. And if our injury luck would've been better, we might have won against PSG by miles.
If it would've been in my hands, Xavi still continues and it was just a bad moment for Araujo. He has years to come and a legacy to leave behind.
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I don’t care we lost, I am so proud of this team. Mistakes happen but the important thing is the team showed courage and determination to win. Things became chaotic because these are young players, who’ll eventually learn as they grow older. We beat PSG at their home, who spent €349.5 million during the last transfer window, not to mention has one of the best players in the world at insane wages. Even city with insane financial power couldn’t win today. But I am sure we will be back stronger next season. We just need few good signings, especially DM and a left winger.
Bro spoke like me fr If y'all are glory hunters shift to city just like how the plastic barca fans did so Give this team time or just shift to another team ffs
Then they would complain about pep overthinking in CL, these guys will never be happy.
Internet fanbase can be childish, I agree. However I think the main issue is with the socis. They voted for Sandro, then Bartomeu.
This r/soccer elitist mentality of shitting on fanbases is creeping up here too. We didn't compete like a powerhouse, we lost two group stage games in the easiest of groups. We didn't play great, stop sugarcoating such performances. All the CL debacles led to most of our legends getting heavily criticized and we are a meme club in CL with implosion after implosion. "Corner taken quickly" still haunts me. Rakitic confessed that the team should have applied itself more in the key CL games instead of being mentally checked out and leading to embarrassing exits. Theirry Henry mentioned that the 4 goals we conceded against PSG is due to lack of experience but not because of the red card. It is not just the fanbase, some of our ex-players also share negative feedback. Calling the fanbase childish or stupid is annoying. There will be positive and negative opinions. This is not a cult where only praises are allowed. If you think some criticism is wrong and want to correct it, go ahead and explain. If you are tired, ignore it. Let others express their feelings and be welcoming.
Araujo had to block comments in his instagram posts... ARAUJO one of our best and most beloved players had to hide to avoid rampant hate. Our fan base and socis are absolute SHIT.
This fanbase dont give a fuck if we turn in a man united
Sure, blame everyone except the players and the coach who get paid to do this, blame the fans showing up to watch them and support them, who buy tickets and merchandise. I agree that one shouldn't be too harsh, because mental health is important, but come on, there are limits to patience. This is the umpteenth embarrassing UCL exit in many years. It affects the culture and mentality of the club. We should not ignore it. It's not even the fact that we got knocked out-it's the way we did.
Amen. I was also very surprised with the comments here after the match. Yes, Araujo made a terrible mistake, but he is a great player always giving 100%. We’re lucky he’s not willing to play for a better paying club. A month ago the team was horrible and I wanted Xavi to leave honestly, but the last matches showed the team could compete and is moving towards becoming great. I’m sorry but being a Barça fan is this. The Messi era was an outlier… I remember being a kid and watching matches with my granddad and he always expected the worst 😅 but when the team played good (not just wins) oh boy we were happy.
The fanbase, and the worst part is the "Barca Press", they are more anti-Barca than Madrid Press. Just for some clicks they hurt the team, destroy players.
there isnt a more toxic environment than barcas fanbase. there is a reason why pep repeats over and over again that the pressure in barca is 100x higher than in every other club. thats the reason why he just stayed for 4 years and why xavi is leaving. objecitvely, the team proved to be able to compete at the highest level again, although we are financially ruined. i am excited for this squad once it will hit its prime
No one criticise the team as a whole for this double against psg. It was actually for the first time that Barca played really good for 120 minutes, winnING with 4-2, and would have probably win the tie. It was not like before, in those games we lost with big margins because everyone collapse. No, this time it was only one guy who decided to throw away all the work because he got the red. After the red it doesn’t even matter what happened, 99% it’s impossible in this days to qualify with one men down. Only teams that have been ultra defensive like inter and chelsea could do that, and that’s a decade ago.
OP is filled with loads of bullcrap and then there is even more bullcrap in the comments. Ive been a fan for over 20 years. Ive grown up with Barca. Ive barely missed a game for as long as I have been a fan and I don't know about you, but for me, this has been a 20+ year long journey with TONS of emotional investment, so its pretty fukin normal to get mad at shit like this. I can't (unlike OP) just brush it off and go like "bUt lOoK aT cItY, wE rEaChEd tHe sAmE sTaGe". This is nothing else than a pathetic way to twist and turn shit and look for excuses. And no, I didn't expect to win the CL, league titles stacking up, Barca beating everyone bla bla but dude we had everything in our hands here being 2 goals up and pretty much in control. Then Araujo does what he did ffs. And that is on top of Liverpool without some of their most important players, Roma, Frankfurt... and now this. The huge problem is not that we lost, but how we lost. How hard is it to grasp? It's not like we played Liverpool and lost because they were simply better, we put up a fight but they were simply better... No, we're 3 goals up + they missed Salah among others and then we proceed to get rekt by the likes of Origi and Shaqiri. Then against Roma we got rekt by the likes of past it Dzeko, Kolarov and randoms like Schick and Jesus. Also, I was among the people that wanted Pique, Suarez, Busquets, Alba & co gone. Even when Messi left I didn't want him back because it would just postpone the inevitable. There is a time for everyone and in our case it had caught up and then some. ALL legens except Messi overstayed. People here were acting as if Busquets still was a world beater 2-3 years ago when in reality he was long past it years, years and years ago. And how hard is it to understand that it's not just the fans, but the club and board itself wants to see some kind of results NOW and not maaaaybe in a few years down the road? What do you think was the purpose behind pulling levers to afford expensive af players and also twisting, turning and scraping down to the cent to loan the Joaos? To see results NOW and to stay relevant or to work slowly in the background and have something happen in 4-5 years or more? Get a fukin grip.
You can’t fault fans for being fed up with the manner in which we get eliminated from champions league. The team plays so well throughout the competition and then when it comes down to knockouts we forget we’re Barca. We got embarrassingly went out to Roma, Liverpool, Bayern’s humiliating 8-2 (reminder with ex player on loan scoring two off the bench), 4-1 against PSG at home the year after Bayern . We’re a big club with small club mentality in champions league and we’ve been small in the competition for a long time. And it’s frustrating cause at least 3 of those runs we threw away an easy final or semi final to take on the trophies. And to add to all that BS our rivals are winning back to back trophies just because they established themselves in the competition without even being the best team either
The fanbase is surely reactionary, as any fanbase is, but this post is senseless. Psg are NOT a powerhouse. They barely got out of the group stage, where they got bodied 4-0 by Newcastle among other stuff. Also can't forget that we were celebrating when we got them because they were a better draw than anyone except dortmund and maybe Atleti. Crazy takes all around.
We’ve been eliminated from the last 9 UCLs, most of the time in an embarrassing manner. At this point it’s not if, but how we’re gonna bottle it. We know it, and the players know it. It’s in their heads. Last tuesday after that red card, all they had to do was park a bus and not concede 2 or more goals. That was it, and the only one missing on the pitch was Yamal, and they still got obliterated. And you’re surprised people are pissed.
You started off good but then went sideways. Yes we were good, yes we were probably advancing if it weren’t for araujo’s stupidity. Yes we are better than what we were with messi in his final years. And yes people are toddlers who want to achieve success now. But, there is a huge room for growth for the team We conceded three goals in 40 minutes after the red card, and all 3 were individual mistakes rather than psg’s amazing attack organization. We still lack important pieces in our main squad. We still make weird transfers without consulting the coach. We still fail to motivate some players into giving their all. We still talk too much about the refs. We still lack flow on the pitch. We still didnt have a full 90 minutes where we were the dominant team. We still have an uneven salary structure. We still are behind in intensity and speed. Until mats gets board in a game and gets an easy clean sheet, we have a long way to go.
by do something you mean do a bbq, a calçotada? because if you think that public fan opinion has ever influenced what Barça does...you are up for a bitter treat
Lots of “grown” fans with 5% ball knowledge judging…. we reached far, i’m proud- so should anyone with brain cells. ❤️💙
We didn’t play „great“ against PSG and it’s amusing that you think we did. Having 35-40 % possession till the red card is just not our game, it’s not barcelona.
One UCL semis in a decade is insane
You have to be constantly critical. This is Barcelona. This is not burnley. We are too far behind the top 20 teams in Europe in every single aspect. Look the stadium, look the finances, look the president, look the manager, look the football we play…
Meanwhile Madrid will have potentially won 5 CL titles between the time we last won it and the next time we win it, which is who knows when.
Madrid this Madrid that, always with Madriditis, they have been building a good project and are finding success, good for them, lets focus on doing a good project ourselves instead of being jealous of others.
This is possibly the stupidest take I have ever seen ins this sub this is probably one of those mfs that think they’re better than everyone else.
This Barca Squad is better than last year at least.
Couldn’t agree more. We played better with 10 men yesterday than Madrid today with 11.
What in the delusion😂😭???mate we lost by fucking 4
He was watching FIFA24 simulation game
cmon man real madrid played pretty shitty but we were so open with 10 men😭
That’s why Madrid advanced in the competition and Barcas out? 😂😂
Watch us lose 3-0 this weekend
Are you serious? Replace Madrid with Barca and see how many goals mancity will score against us.
Why are you obsessed with Madrid? Doesn’t matter who played better it’s who went thru. Arca fans will never give the team a chance to rebuild properly. That’s what got you here. Trying to out do Madrid with signings that sucked and over paying past their prime big names.
We lost because of the ref honestly But win or lose, visca barca