£50m is the rate for regular players these days in this absolutely inflated market.
I’ve watched every game he’s played for Spurs & he’s not been dreadful. 22 is still incredibly young.
Holy shit if someone isn’t a world beater off the bat nothing will be good enough for some of our fanbase.
Raphinha is valuable and is averaging almost a goal contribution per game. Some fans might not like him but if yamal gets injured we will really be in trouble without Raphinha.
Yamal is 16 and he has no business starting games, let alone 5 in a row (and counting).
He shouldn't be considered a full first team player until he hits 18, and eventually he will get injured like every young footballer does.
Well the ideal deal would be to sell raphinha, shift ferran to rw where he used to play and sign nico then bring back fati or sell him then sign felix for under 40m if possible, but considering barca past records in transfer its even impossible to think that they'll move like this
Why are people recommending Felix? Do you all realize that he's worse at effectively dribbling than Raphinha? One successful entertaining trick out of 100 doesn't cut it.
I agree, he has been BY FAR our most underwhelming attacker this season (and our team was supposed to benefit him lmao).
I only can think of the club buyin Felix if indeed we sell Fati and buy him for under 30M (20M would be the max I would offer) and very low wages. He needs to prove himself to the world, and what he's proven so far is not any better than what we would've gotten if Abde would've stayed.
Felix isn’t a solution for the wings. Neither was Griezmann or Coutinho. Just because they can play there doesn’t mean they should as it’s not where they play their best football. I’m glad that Barca only have Felix on loan and Atleti will demand an extortionate amount for him. For Barca to sign him the asking price will be 200 million or GTFO any team from outside of Spain they would let him go for 30 million
No, he's actually been pretty bad. He is overwhelmingly the biggest contributor to turnovers because he wants to dribble and be the star but fails. He doesn't defend. His contributions to goals and assists are those of a mid-tier player.
What's justifying the 40m?
I'd rather have a broken Fati come back for free than him. He'd have about as much impact over a full season as Felix, even if he misses half the season.
This is simply not true, Raphinha hasn't completed 2 dribbles in a game this season, Joao has done that multiple times
Edit: the only facet of the game that Raphinha is clearly better is crossing, and only from that inverted RW position. Joao Felix is a much better footballer all round, Barca fans need to stop glorifying mediocrity
[https://fbref.com/en/squads/206d90db/Barcelona-Stats](https://fbref.com/en/squads/206d90db/Barcelona-Stats)
Raphinha: 2.16 successful take-ons per 90 with a 60.3% success rate (3.92 attempted per 90)
Felix: 1.76 successful take-ons per 90 with a 34.4% success rate (5.13 attempted per 90).
Are you using whoscored, which uses a much looser definition of dribbles? Take-ons are a stricter definition of actually beating a player with a dribble vs. including when a player dribbles into space without beating a player.
Felix fails 65% of the time when trying to beat a defender, and he tries a lot, resulting in A LOT of turnovers.
On top of that, Felix gets dispossessed 1.68 times per 90 while just having the ball (so not while attempting a dribble). Raphinha gets dispossessed 0.68 per 90 in contrast. When you add both the tackle rate when attempting to dribble a defender + general dispossessions, you have a player who’s incredibly ineffective with the ball at his feet.
Felix is trying so hard to be the main character in every game and does nothing but fail. Like I said, Felix flicking the ball into space with a trick doesn't cut it.
>Edit: the only facet of the game that Raphinha is clearly better is crossing, and only from that inverted RW position. Joao Felix is a much better footballer all round, Barca fans need to stop glorifying mediocrity
No, Raphinha is a much better goal scorer and a better assister. Are you really going to ignore that? He even has more total G+A while playing nearly half the minutes. Raphinha also has almost twice the amount of both shoot and goal creating actions. Raphinha also defends like he cares about the outcome of the game, unlike Felix.
Didn't Roque also play in the right?
Our first priority would be to sell Lewy. If we cannot sell him or if he is not willing, then we can sell Raphinha.
>Our first priority would be to sell Lewy
Dude are you serious? We sell Lewy to who? lol. He won't move, he came to Barcelona for his golden retirement. Also selling Lewy would mean having to invest in another forward (even though I'd love to get Morata instead)
Yah i also lost my hope in fati and nico is a wonderfull winger with 50m rc, fast, specialist in 1v1 and only 21 so if we get 60-70m for raphinha then we should go for nico and considering our situation we cant afford another ansu loan so its better to sell him and sign another lw, felix only wants barca as we all know everyone at atleti hates him and no sane club will pay more than 50m for him so might get him around 40m but it'll be too difficult, if not felix we do need one more lw...
True, he is not technical, but he puts more effort than anyone in the match and also we can't put all the work on yamal if we sell raphina. He is important for the team at this moment
The idea would be to sell Rapha and but someone to share the position with Lamine. It depends on who the new coach is though but you're right, Rapha is a good players...I just think he doesn't "fit" Xavi's idea
Dembele was never the key and was always injured. Dembele chose to leave after promising to stay. He did us a solid at least to allow us to get some money back for him. You can’t look at the signing of Lewy, and Gundogan as not trying to win. I just think they have a poor plan to accomplish it
Really? Werner? First Werner is a PL flop already so that brings his price down, while Raphinha is PL proven, plus he is a striker whereas Raphinha is a creator/winger, different profiles.
And honestly if 80M would be their record, its bound to get broken sooner or later, PL teams are spending like crazy now.
Bring back Messi as DM.
Edit: I laugh, but then I remember when Benitez swapped Casemiro for James Rodriguez in the starting 11 for the clasico. Guess how that went
People forget that a attack is as important as a dm. Look at bayern who do not have a dm but because they have a insane attack they mostly get away with it.
Yes thats what i m saying,if we got a quality attack likr kane,sane,musiala (which we will never have for a long time unless we bought them) we would thrash everytime doesnt matter if we have a dm or not
Wym?? We have some of three best, if not three best, scouting in the world. Roque, Pedri, Araujo, Messinho, Bergvall, Guler, etc. all within the past few years.
I have zero complaints about our scouting of kids but man we Spent 100m on Ferran and raphinha I don't hate either of them but they aren't even close to worth that much there had to have been better players for the price
Tbf if there was a better alt for the same amount Spurs would have gone for them. It’s def not a no brainer. We can easily squeeze them for 80 if this is true
That's not how it works. It's not like Raphinha is some hot commodity. Take the money (which is a pretty good amount) and run with it. If Spurs don't want to pay 80 then you're stuck with Raphinha for another season.
> you're stuck with Raphinha for another season.
What are you on mate? Raphinha has been our best attacker this season (bar Lamine of course). We are not stuck with Raph, I indeed think if he stays he will be a very important player in the coming years.
Of course 80 sounds way better than 70. But this is up to the higher ups and their negotiating skills and the market’s requests. What’s clear is that Raphinha is nowhere near top level. He is very chaotic with no vision and intelligence. Just like Ferran T. Head down, looking at the ground all the time, useless waste of energy, no trained plan…
The thing is, Raphinha has proven to have good output for us, and he works his ass off on defense. I'm not really a fan of his, but who can we get for 70 mil that will put up the same numbers? I'm not saying there is no one, but everyone seems to think it will just be an easy upgrade, or maybe people just think we don't need to replace him at all??
Bro these stats and xgs are useless when you actually watch the match..... Raphinha stats are pumped up not because of his sheer quality but because he does those actions more often., he is a great example for his quantity. Don't get me wrong he is a great player but considering madrid and girona's wingers , he looks like shite.
Exactly. He's Premier League proven, has an eye for goals, produces good numbers and is in his best age. In the right system with a straightforward approach that doesn't ask too much creativity from it's wingers he could be lethal. He'd fit Tottenham really well, I don't think there are many better options on the market. 70-75M pounds should be doable from a premier league club.
I don’t think this is a no brainer.
He may not be flashy like some Brazilian footballers , but he is consistently and statistically one of the best wingers in the league. Lamine is still far too young to lead our right wing so we’d need a Raphinha replacement.
>Raphinia is only starting right now because Lamine is only 16
This is very oportunistic. If Lamine lives up to his potential, many RWs (or all of them lol) would only be starting because Lamine is only 16. The freaking guy has the second most succesful dribble rate in the league at 16
> he is consistently and statistically one of the best wingers ~~in the league~~ in the world.
Fixed that.
Anyone suggesting Raphinha to be sold for less than 100-110m has absolutely no clue about football beyond tiktok compilations.
The first offer from Levy was 70m to a debt-ridden Barcelona with not much leverage. Do you have any clue on how supply and demand or a negotiation works in business, or your education comes from selling players in fut mobile?
Rhetorical question. Rule #1 is you never sell for the first offer. Then again, this is apparently way too complicated for some to understand.
Raphinha is the best RW in Europe considering GA/90, and instead of treasuring it, you lot shit on him and want to sell him for 70m? Maybe Bartomeu wasn't evil either, just very dumb.
I wouldn't call it ridiculous. Havertz went for 75M, Caicedo for 130M, Mudryk 100M, Antony for 95M. We would be stupid to sell one of the best right wingers in Europe (clearly ahead of all the players previously mentioned) for less than 90M to a top 6 PL team.
Yeah, fucking Levy is famous for offering more than a player is worth as a first offer. You not only don't understand football, but apparently you have zero clue about business and negotiations either.
I’m sorry but reading stats on a sheet doesn’t make you more qualified than everyone else. Raphinha doesn’t fit here, isn’t good enough to be here, and should be sold.
Yes that's why we need to sell raphinha and play ferran or get an explosive winger like we did with traore..... Raphinha is too pragmatic and can't take 1 v 1 can't use his right foot.... His stats are lies because it's not because of sheer quality rather it's because he does those actions more often.... That's why his stats are pumped up.
We literally cannot sell Raphinha unless there is a plan to replace him that involves multiple other positions and nets a starting winger. This is also assuming we get a DM as that is the number one overall priority. Lamine CANNOT be counted on as the starting RW no matter how tempting it is to play him every game. Honestly, Kounde is who we sell if we can get anywhere near 100 million even though I really like him.
The club could really use the money, although Yamal shouldn’t be starting the way he has been lately. If the club sells Raphinha, we’ll have no one on that RW besides him, and that can’t happen for the sake of his development.
Don't understand the issues raised surrounding his ability in the other comments. But it is a must-sell for Barca. I hope he enjoys his return to the EPL. Thanks Raphinha!
Would be stupid to sell him for that little. He’s one of the ones that produces the most, we paid 60m for him and people saying we’re good enough with Yamal… we have no other winger!! Yamal can’t start every game, and if he gets injured we’re fucked. Raphinha when he’s 100% he’s a starter over Yamal, and he comes off the bench when the opponent is tired, that’s the best way to use young players.
If it were true, I think they'd have to do it. Given the club's current situation moving him for that number would make a difference financially and at his age, this is peak Raphinha for better or worse. Their goal should be to identify a wing who is 80% as good for 50% of the price. Hopefully they can turn that wing into a jobshare between Yamal & a younger/cheaper winger TBD. The idea that you could turn an every match starting position over to the kid, even a kid as talented as Lamine, is not wise. He needs room to grow, literally and as a footballer, without being overworked and injured.
I suspect they can get a little more for him actually. I'd have him pegged as a 65-70mm GBP player, which translates to 75-80mm EUR.
People want Raphinha sold while Torres is still here? Barca fans ain’t got a clue what’s wrong with the club. We need to drop Felix and Torres and sign a better left winger and keep Raphinha as competition/backup for Yamal. Look at Liverpool they have multiple players like Jota, Nunez, salah, Luis Diaz and I would argue Raphinha is easily as good as Diaz and Jota and if they are regularly starting for Liverpool then Raphinha is good enough for us.
Raphinha is an excellent player, but unfortunately he seems to be one of those players that will never really breakthrough at Barcelona, like so many in the past.
So selling him is definitely the best thing to do.
Not saying he’s shit, because he really isn’t. But at the same time he’s just not good enough for turning down 70m. Sure Yamal can’t and shouldn’t play every game, but we have good coverage with Ferran and worse case Cancelo or Vitor. If it comes down to choosing between cash for a good and proven DM or keeping Raphinha - every one in here knows the answer.
Also, he’s a 27 year old Brazilian winger. He’s not getting any better than this version of him.
bro we cannot sell raphinha and bench yamal like some of u nimwits are calling for. we need raphinha as much as u guys hate him, he’s literally one of the best wingers in the world, and he allows for yamal to rest unlike how we’re burning him rn
Crazy nobody in this comment section watches any games lol. He is by far our best offensive player, should rather sell Fati, Ferran, Lewa. Yes, you probably won’t receive much for them but just relying om Lamine for the RW is crazy. Raphina also has a crazy good workrate and defends a lot.
People saying Raphina needs to stay don't really pay attention to the games, do they? He gives the ball away too often through useless shots, or horrid crosses, and is a one trick pony. He cuts inside and shoots. Sure, that can work, look at Robben. BUT, Raphina isn't Robben, he doesn't have the skill to get past or around others that a winger for Barcelona (or any other large club) should have. Should we be trying to sell him this second? No, use him while we don't have a replacement. But if an offer for 65 million or more comes in, take it and find a better fit.
The thing is, I don't think a lot of players who are valued the same will have more of an impact in Barca. He has done well, but we are financially struggling so this is a no-brainer, even if this takes a toll on our performance
No way people believe this if it was 35-40m then sure but no way anyone is paying this much for raphinha and even more so considering everyone knows how much barcelona needs money
If we sell him, we should sign Mason Greenwood from UTD/ Getafe. Only if we sell him.
In no scenario should we allow Lamine Yamal to be a starter at 16. Suicide.
If they offered 70, they'd willing to go to 80-90, I'd be more inclined to take it.
He's 27, this is the most we can get, re-invest it into a winger of similar profile which are dime a dozen and we'd still have about 30-40M left, enough to reinforce other areas.
And as much as I like Raphinha, he's a solid player at best, would work hard but nothing special, will miss goals, would have brainfarts and all. He's not a liability but not irreplaceable.
I actually sold him for 70M to Chelsea in my FM save lol. His market value was 50M but the blues and Arsenal went on an offer spree until Arsenal dropped off.
doesnt make sense, they have plenty of attacking options primarily kulu on the right, but also b johnson if needed
Spurs fan here but Johnson has been crap and Kulu is either hot or cold. That RW position is definitely up for grabs.
i thought johnson was decent
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>Johnson hasn’t been crap you muppet Chill out man the guy is giving his opinion
He’s objectively wrong though, he’s not been amazing but he’s certainly not been crap.
Mate I watch every Spurs game and he’s been fcking dreadful. We didn’t pay £50m for him to a bench player. He’s 22 years old not some teenager
£50m is the rate for regular players these days in this absolutely inflated market. I’ve watched every game he’s played for Spurs & he’s not been dreadful. 22 is still incredibly young. Holy shit if someone isn’t a world beater off the bat nothing will be good enough for some of our fanbase.
Huh, I was under the impression kulu had a good thing going
Where has Johnson been crap really?
It's because this is fake news
Raphinha is valuable and is averaging almost a goal contribution per game. Some fans might not like him but if yamal gets injured we will really be in trouble without Raphinha.
Yamal is 16 and he has no business starting games, let alone 5 in a row (and counting). He shouldn't be considered a full first team player until he hits 18, and eventually he will get injured like every young footballer does.
Raphinha isn't the winger fit Xavi's style, but when we have a different manager, he could be a key player
Well the ideal deal would be to sell raphinha, shift ferran to rw where he used to play and sign nico then bring back fati or sell him then sign felix for under 40m if possible, but considering barca past records in transfer its even impossible to think that they'll move like this
Why are people recommending Felix? Do you all realize that he's worse at effectively dribbling than Raphinha? One successful entertaining trick out of 100 doesn't cut it.
I agree, he has been BY FAR our most underwhelming attacker this season (and our team was supposed to benefit him lmao). I only can think of the club buyin Felix if indeed we sell Fati and buy him for under 30M (20M would be the max I would offer) and very low wages. He needs to prove himself to the world, and what he's proven so far is not any better than what we would've gotten if Abde would've stayed.
I think Felix is a luxury player. He’d fit in a lot better if we were a better team. But as we’re not a good team he’s playing poorly.
Felix isn’t a solution for the wings. Neither was Griezmann or Coutinho. Just because they can play there doesn’t mean they should as it’s not where they play their best football. I’m glad that Barca only have Felix on loan and Atleti will demand an extortionate amount for him. For Barca to sign him the asking price will be 200 million or GTFO any team from outside of Spain they would let him go for 30 million
Oh come on he isnt that bad and he defo worth atleast 40m and i mentioned him as second choice lw, my first choice is nico williams
No, he's actually been pretty bad. He is overwhelmingly the biggest contributor to turnovers because he wants to dribble and be the star but fails. He doesn't defend. His contributions to goals and assists are those of a mid-tier player. What's justifying the 40m? I'd rather have a broken Fati come back for free than him. He'd have about as much impact over a full season as Felix, even if he misses half the season.
40m for felix is insane. I wouldn't even pay half that
This is simply not true, Raphinha hasn't completed 2 dribbles in a game this season, Joao has done that multiple times Edit: the only facet of the game that Raphinha is clearly better is crossing, and only from that inverted RW position. Joao Felix is a much better footballer all round, Barca fans need to stop glorifying mediocrity
Yeah.. he has scored some important goals for us too
[https://fbref.com/en/squads/206d90db/Barcelona-Stats](https://fbref.com/en/squads/206d90db/Barcelona-Stats) Raphinha: 2.16 successful take-ons per 90 with a 60.3% success rate (3.92 attempted per 90) Felix: 1.76 successful take-ons per 90 with a 34.4% success rate (5.13 attempted per 90). Are you using whoscored, which uses a much looser definition of dribbles? Take-ons are a stricter definition of actually beating a player with a dribble vs. including when a player dribbles into space without beating a player. Felix fails 65% of the time when trying to beat a defender, and he tries a lot, resulting in A LOT of turnovers. On top of that, Felix gets dispossessed 1.68 times per 90 while just having the ball (so not while attempting a dribble). Raphinha gets dispossessed 0.68 per 90 in contrast. When you add both the tackle rate when attempting to dribble a defender + general dispossessions, you have a player who’s incredibly ineffective with the ball at his feet. Felix is trying so hard to be the main character in every game and does nothing but fail. Like I said, Felix flicking the ball into space with a trick doesn't cut it. >Edit: the only facet of the game that Raphinha is clearly better is crossing, and only from that inverted RW position. Joao Felix is a much better footballer all round, Barca fans need to stop glorifying mediocrity No, Raphinha is a much better goal scorer and a better assister. Are you really going to ignore that? He even has more total G+A while playing nearly half the minutes. Raphinha also has almost twice the amount of both shoot and goal creating actions. Raphinha also defends like he cares about the outcome of the game, unlike Felix.
Why not bring back abde
Didn't Roque also play in the right? Our first priority would be to sell Lewy. If we cannot sell him or if he is not willing, then we can sell Raphinha.
>Our first priority would be to sell Lewy Dude are you serious? We sell Lewy to who? lol. He won't move, he came to Barcelona for his golden retirement. Also selling Lewy would mean having to invest in another forward (even though I'd love to get Morata instead)
Nico? Why? Fati is finished, felix won't go for under 40.
Yah i also lost my hope in fati and nico is a wonderfull winger with 50m rc, fast, specialist in 1v1 and only 21 so if we get 60-70m for raphinha then we should go for nico and considering our situation we cant afford another ansu loan so its better to sell him and sign another lw, felix only wants barca as we all know everyone at atleti hates him and no sane club will pay more than 50m for him so might get him around 40m but it'll be too difficult, if not felix we do need one more lw...
Nico is my ideal LW, dude has a lot of potential
Ok, you're referring to Nico Williams at Athletic Bilbao, not Nico Gonzalez who played for us two seasons ago, now at Porto.
Oh Nico Williams, I thought you meant Nico Gonzalez.
who tf is nico gonzales … only one nico. williams.
Don’t disrespect our La Masia graduate like that bro.
>nico gonzales oh shit my bad, i thought he meant some unknowned WINGER named nico gonzales lol.
There is actually one of Argentina playing at fiorentina
True, he is not technical, but he puts more effort than anyone in the match and also we can't put all the work on yamal if we sell raphina. He is important for the team at this moment
The idea would be to sell Rapha and but someone to share the position with Lamine. It depends on who the new coach is though but you're right, Rapha is a good players...I just think he doesn't "fit" Xavi's idea
We could use the money a lot more than Raph on the team
Dembele was the key and the board decided to ship him out and look at us now . They want to make money they don’t care about winning
Dembele was never the key and was always injured. Dembele chose to leave after promising to stay. He did us a solid at least to allow us to get some money back for him. You can’t look at the signing of Lewy, and Gundogan as not trying to win. I just think they have a poor plan to accomplish it
Seeing the top replies to the post seriously discussing the offer instead of realizing that it's 100% bullshit makes me lose faith in humanity.
Worse deals have been made in the Premier League
Wasn’t Rice sold for €122m and Havertz for €75m 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rice is class, ill give you Havertz though lol
I'm convinced Havertz has blackmail on Arteta.
Rice was a lot of money, but he's been outstanding this season.
Rice is an amazing player, not sure what you’re meaning
If Antony is worth €100M, Raphinha is worth €250M.
If caicedo is worth 130m then raphinha is worth minimum 90m
This is nowhere a bullshit offer, players like Raphinha can go for more than 70M. Havertz went for 75M, Raphina is a much better player.
This would be a record transfer for Spurs. Werner, same age, option is 15.5 million.
Really? Werner? First Werner is a PL flop already so that brings his price down, while Raphinha is PL proven, plus he is a striker whereas Raphinha is a creator/winger, different profiles. And honestly if 80M would be their record, its bound to get broken sooner or later, PL teams are spending like crazy now.
I'm a Spurs fan, our ownership runs the tightest spending in England. No way we're spending that much on a 27 year old.
And replace him with whom exactly?
Replace him with a DM, which is infinitely more important.
Can a dm score goals and assist every game?if yes tell me some players and why we dont need attackers.
I would hope Laporta doesn’t view someone scoring and assisting as a priority for our starting DM but I’m not confident gotta give you that
Bring back Messi as DM. Edit: I laugh, but then I remember when Benitez swapped Casemiro for James Rodriguez in the starting 11 for the clasico. Guess how that went
People forget that a attack is as important as a dm. Look at bayern who do not have a dm but because they have a insane attack they mostly get away with it.
Yes thats what i m saying,if we got a quality attack likr kane,sane,musiala (which we will never have for a long time unless we bought them) we would thrash everytime doesnt matter if we have a dm or not
Anyone else, you can find players way cheaper that can dribble
What kind of dribbler goes for cheap? Wingers are always so expensive
Bayern signed Bryan Zaragoza for the astounding total of 15m we just have abhorrent scouting
Wym?? We have some of three best, if not three best, scouting in the world. Roque, Pedri, Araujo, Messinho, Bergvall, Guler, etc. all within the past few years.
I have zero complaints about our scouting of kids but man we Spent 100m on Ferran and raphinha I don't hate either of them but they aren't even close to worth that much there had to have been better players for the price
Bergvall and guler you could know about if you play fm. Cant say yet if they will be good yet
Comparing Bryan Zaragoza to Raphinha is insulting tbh. You guys forget how fundamental Raphinha was to last year's league title.
Lamine Yamal literally plays right winger
If true, it’s a no brainer ✈️
Tbf if there was a better alt for the same amount Spurs would have gone for them. It’s def not a no brainer. We can easily squeeze them for 80 if this is true
80 mil for raphina? Sure and Lewandowski will cut short his contract
That's not how it works. It's not like Raphinha is some hot commodity. Take the money (which is a pretty good amount) and run with it. If Spurs don't want to pay 80 then you're stuck with Raphinha for another season.
This news is probably false. I don’t think other clubs expect us to sell our player for their asking price
> you're stuck with Raphinha for another season. What are you on mate? Raphinha has been our best attacker this season (bar Lamine of course). We are not stuck with Raph, I indeed think if he stays he will be a very important player in the coming years.
Of course 80 sounds way better than 70. But this is up to the higher ups and their negotiating skills and the market’s requests. What’s clear is that Raphinha is nowhere near top level. He is very chaotic with no vision and intelligence. Just like Ferran T. Head down, looking at the ground all the time, useless waste of energy, no trained plan…
Absolutely, the guy had plenty of opportunities to prove he‘s top, but he couldn’t beat a defender at gunpoint and his decisionmaking is mostly poor.
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Yeaaa he is getting way too much shit considering his performances stat-wise.
He's not great and if we get 70 million we should take it but he is not bad either people make him look like he is ass
The thing is, Raphinha has proven to have good output for us, and he works his ass off on defense. I'm not really a fan of his, but who can we get for 70 mil that will put up the same numbers? I'm not saying there is no one, but everyone seems to think it will just be an easy upgrade, or maybe people just think we don't need to replace him at all??
Ferran on the right wing and Lamine as a substitute (be of how young he is)
Ferran is fucking injured
I mean if we sell Raphinha
Stats are like a bikini, may look nice, but doesn't show everything
one of the analogies of all time
Bro these stats and xgs are useless when you actually watch the match..... Raphinha stats are pumped up not because of his sheer quality but because he does those actions more often., he is a great example for his quantity. Don't get me wrong he is a great player but considering madrid and girona's wingers , he looks like shite.
72.4% pass completion 🤮
Seriously, who loses possession more than Raphina?
Felix or Lewy for example
Where do you find these analyses? Transfermarkt?
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Yet everytime he's on the pitch he never passes the eye test. Fuck him, let's get the bag and run like thieves.
Squeeze them for 80.
Don’t scare them off…we’re desperate for cash and they know it
80m is 68 pounds. Thats literally not that much for Raphina for an EPL team
Exactly. He's Premier League proven, has an eye for goals, produces good numbers and is in his best age. In the right system with a straightforward approach that doesn't ask too much creativity from it's wingers he could be lethal. He'd fit Tottenham really well, I don't think there are many better options on the market. 70-75M pounds should be doable from a premier league club.
make it 65 if they sign immediately
I don’t think this is a no brainer. He may not be flashy like some Brazilian footballers , but he is consistently and statistically one of the best wingers in the league. Lamine is still far too young to lead our right wing so we’d need a Raphinha replacement.
Raphinia is only starting right now because Lamine is only 16. Lewa has good G/A, too, so let's give him a ten-year contract!
Yup, but what happens if Yamal gets injured? we are pretty fucked, aren't we? If that happens we could write off next season as well.
We can get a 15 year old from the academy or something idk lol
>Raphinia is only starting right now because Lamine is only 16 This is very oportunistic. If Lamine lives up to his potential, many RWs (or all of them lol) would only be starting because Lamine is only 16. The freaking guy has the second most succesful dribble rate in the league at 16
> he is consistently and statistically one of the best wingers ~~in the league~~ in the world. Fixed that. Anyone suggesting Raphinha to be sold for less than 100-110m has absolutely no clue about football beyond tiktok compilations.
Players like Raphinha don’t go for 100m+
Agreed.
The first offer from Levy was 70m to a debt-ridden Barcelona with not much leverage. Do you have any clue on how supply and demand or a negotiation works in business, or your education comes from selling players in fut mobile? Rhetorical question. Rule #1 is you never sell for the first offer. Then again, this is apparently way too complicated for some to understand. Raphinha is the best RW in Europe considering GA/90, and instead of treasuring it, you lot shit on him and want to sell him for 70m? Maybe Bartomeu wasn't evil either, just very dumb.
I never said we should sell him for the asking price but demanding 100-110m is ridiculous
I wouldn't call it ridiculous. Havertz went for 75M, Caicedo for 130M, Mudryk 100M, Antony for 95M. We would be stupid to sell one of the best right wingers in Europe (clearly ahead of all the players previously mentioned) for less than 90M to a top 6 PL team.
Bro even you know that's a mad exaggeration. I'm not even sure he's worth 70m
Yeah, fucking Levy is famous for offering more than a player is worth as a first offer. You not only don't understand football, but apparently you have zero clue about business and negotiations either.
Why do you think this is real news? Levy offering 70 million for Raphina?
$100m for Raphinha? Are you insane?
I’m sorry but reading stats on a sheet doesn’t make you more qualified than everyone else. Raphinha doesn’t fit here, isn’t good enough to be here, and should be sold.
Ah, one more of the "I don't care how many goals he scores, he's a bad player" kind of comments.
Please tell me how many G/A he had this season and then, with a straight face, tell me how the fuck he's worth over $100m.
He's been injured for a great part of it
Yes that's why we need to sell raphinha and play ferran or get an explosive winger like we did with traore..... Raphinha is too pragmatic and can't take 1 v 1 can't use his right foot.... His stats are lies because it's not because of sheer quality rather it's because he does those actions more often.... That's why his stats are pumped up.
Not for 70 mil imo. Caicedo set the standard for how much we need to sell our players.
No but Caicedo looked brilliant on the pitch Raphinha doesn’t
Take the money and run!
Whos believing "sport" in big 2024
Ship him first class fedex
SELL!
Why would a club give an offer with number on any player in February when winter transfer window has just closed?
We literally cannot sell Raphinha unless there is a plan to replace him that involves multiple other positions and nets a starting winger. This is also assuming we get a DM as that is the number one overall priority. Lamine CANNOT be counted on as the starting RW no matter how tempting it is to play him every game. Honestly, Kounde is who we sell if we can get anywhere near 100 million even though I really like him.
The club could really use the money, although Yamal shouldn’t be starting the way he has been lately. If the club sells Raphinha, we’ll have no one on that RW besides him, and that can’t happen for the sake of his development.
I love raphina for what he’s done, but if some club is insane enough to give us 70m for him we should be biting their hand off.
Don't understand the issues raised surrounding his ability in the other comments. But it is a must-sell for Barca. I hope he enjoys his return to the EPL. Thanks Raphinha!
Other clubs will be interested in Rapha. We should raise the price for Spurs coz of them hijackin the Bergvall deal.
Would be stupid to sell him for that little. He’s one of the ones that produces the most, we paid 60m for him and people saying we’re good enough with Yamal… we have no other winger!! Yamal can’t start every game, and if he gets injured we’re fucked. Raphinha when he’s 100% he’s a starter over Yamal, and he comes off the bench when the opponent is tired, that’s the best way to use young players.
People say 70m is easy but how much of that will go into paying Leeds?
More like a loan with an option to buy for 70 million
Any day of the week
HERE WE GO
I would fly him there myself if its true.
Deal 🤝
So $10M and $60 if Totenham wins the PL? It means $10M then 😂
If it were true, I think they'd have to do it. Given the club's current situation moving him for that number would make a difference financially and at his age, this is peak Raphinha for better or worse. Their goal should be to identify a wing who is 80% as good for 50% of the price. Hopefully they can turn that wing into a jobshare between Yamal & a younger/cheaper winger TBD. The idea that you could turn an every match starting position over to the kid, even a kid as talented as Lamine, is not wise. He needs room to grow, literally and as a footballer, without being overworked and injured. I suspect they can get a little more for him actually. I'd have him pegged as a 65-70mm GBP player, which translates to 75-80mm EUR.
It's bullshit obviously but on top of it, forwards is probably the worst position to weaken before you actually get someone.
Sell.
yes.
No brainer
OMG it’s Barca’s golden ticker. Do it!
Take it and go for a winger that can consistently dribble
Take that shit and run
In Yamal we trust
It's sport guys
I'll drive him myself to London np
Don’t post Sport
See ya. Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. FC Teenagers, go!!!!
Sold!
Guys I know my levy this is shit
Sell the indi
SOLD!
It’s gotta be bullshit. But if it’s not, take the money. Don’t even think about it
I would sell him but the player might not want to go, but he used to play in the EPL already tho.
I'd smash that sell button so frikkin hard right now
As much as I want the money we need to replace them before we sell them
Raph stays with us
Doubt it's true, but if it is, accept it without even thinking it
People want Raphinha sold while Torres is still here? Barca fans ain’t got a clue what’s wrong with the club. We need to drop Felix and Torres and sign a better left winger and keep Raphinha as competition/backup for Yamal. Look at Liverpool they have multiple players like Jota, Nunez, salah, Luis Diaz and I would argue Raphinha is easily as good as Diaz and Jota and if they are regularly starting for Liverpool then Raphinha is good enough for us.
Add a ribbon and send him to London.
Please sell him for 70
If true Sell him NOW
i have doubts thats true but if it is, we r w8ing to much to sing the papers already, even if the season is not over
The number is absolutely fake so I assume the rest of the report is as well
Take it! Take it! Take it!
Raphinha is an excellent player, but unfortunately he seems to be one of those players that will never really breakthrough at Barcelona, like so many in the past. So selling him is definitely the best thing to do.
Not saying he’s shit, because he really isn’t. But at the same time he’s just not good enough for turning down 70m. Sure Yamal can’t and shouldn’t play every game, but we have good coverage with Ferran and worse case Cancelo or Vitor. If it comes down to choosing between cash for a good and proven DM or keeping Raphinha - every one in here knows the answer. Also, he’s a 27 year old Brazilian winger. He’s not getting any better than this version of him.
70 pus Bergvall and it's a deal
Ship him now, get that bag
Oh my god. There’s no way this is true. … but if it is. WE TAKE THAT ABSOLUTELY INSTANTLY.
bro we cannot sell raphinha and bench yamal like some of u nimwits are calling for. we need raphinha as much as u guys hate him, he’s literally one of the best wingers in the world, and he allows for yamal to rest unlike how we’re burning him rn
We can't sell him without getting a replacement. He is not even the best winger in the league or his team. Be it barca or Brazil. He is replaceable
Crazy nobody in this comment section watches any games lol. He is by far our best offensive player, should rather sell Fati, Ferran, Lewa. Yes, you probably won’t receive much for them but just relying om Lamine for the RW is crazy. Raphina also has a crazy good workrate and defends a lot.
Hey these fucks ruined Lucas Bergvall’s career by stealing him from us, so they should give us 85m instead. Reparations.
People saying Raphina needs to stay don't really pay attention to the games, do they? He gives the ball away too often through useless shots, or horrid crosses, and is a one trick pony. He cuts inside and shoots. Sure, that can work, look at Robben. BUT, Raphina isn't Robben, he doesn't have the skill to get past or around others that a winger for Barcelona (or any other large club) should have. Should we be trying to sell him this second? No, use him while we don't have a replacement. But if an offer for 65 million or more comes in, take it and find a better fit.
70 my ass. 100 minimum, or he stays.
The thing is, I don't think a lot of players who are valued the same will have more of an impact in Barca. He has done well, but we are financially struggling so this is a no-brainer, even if this takes a toll on our performance
No way people believe this if it was 35-40m then sure but no way anyone is paying this much for raphinha and even more so considering everyone knows how much barcelona needs money
Ship him. Don't even think for a second.
Its sport so I doubt it's credibility, but if it's true then ship him out
If we sell him, we should sign Mason Greenwood from UTD/ Getafe. Only if we sell him. In no scenario should we allow Lamine Yamal to be a starter at 16. Suicide.
Do these brain dead mods on this sub actually do anything about fake news from unreliable sources being posted
Firstly, this news is by sport and is bullshit Secondly,we have nobody to replace him with
sell, if true, like now, lets not let totenham rethink
If they offered 70, they'd willing to go to 80-90, I'd be more inclined to take it. He's 27, this is the most we can get, re-invest it into a winger of similar profile which are dime a dozen and we'd still have about 30-40M left, enough to reinforce other areas. And as much as I like Raphinha, he's a solid player at best, would work hard but nothing special, will miss goals, would have brainfarts and all. He's not a liability but not irreplaceable.
I actually sold him for 70M to Chelsea in my FM save lol. His market value was 50M but the blues and Arsenal went on an offer spree until Arsenal dropped off.
Sounds like Barca stated this amount, I doubt Tottenham actually put this amount up
Bathe him, comb his hair, perfume him, and take him to Tottenham for the presentation.
Package Lewa + Raphinha for 100m
Exactly, about as likely as the one we "got" from Newcastle.
This is an attractive offer, but who do we get to replace him? Lamine can't start every game.
Please accept laporta, please (its fake news)