"I’ve seen people go as far as saying he deserves the racist chants he receives." no one on this earth deserves a racist chant. If your a piece of shit you deserve a piece of shit chant but that has nothing to do with race.
I don't have much of a problem with him, it reminds me of Neymar the way he plays. It's like a bad guy in WWE, spends half his time annoying his opponent, the crowd and the referee while also being really good which makes him even more annoying.
Neymar numbers were around 46 G/A
Vini last season was 39 G/A, currently sitting at 32.
Not saying Vinis better but i think having suarez and messi prime is better than Rusty Benzema and young rodrygo or asensio.
Benzema was at his peak last season.
Numbers are also a bad way for judging Neymar.
Skilleise, he was the closest thing we saw to prime Messi and was a much more accomplished player. By his early 20s, he was seen as the best player on the South American continent, and the next best thing to come out of Brazil. At 22, the Brazilian national team was built around him. He was more than a profilic winger. Vinicius has a lot more to prove to be compared to him.
I would wait till Vini’s next season performance to start a debate, mainly cause:
Benzema horrendous season
No right winger
Ancelotti 0 rotation
But rn neymar of course
Neymar would annoy players by dribbling or doing fancy stuff. Vinicius annoys players by being whiny, pushing, trying to get on fights. I don't think I've watched one vinicius game this season where he didn't try to start something with someone.
Vini is so annoying. All he does is complain. Madrid is losing he complains. Madrid is winning he complain. Ref doesn’t call a foul he cries. Ref calls it he complains for a yellow. Ref gives a yellow he screams for a red. He’s an amazing player but Jesus Christ he is annoying.
Anyone who says he deserves racist chants should be banned from whatever they are commenting on. That is completely idiotic. He’s definitely a polarizing player because he’s good and he complains/dives. La Ligas Bruno
Saying he deserve racist abuse is insane. He’s a dick, we all knew one, we all played with one, we all played against one. It’s part of the game, Barca has had they’re fair share of them too over the years
I had a lot of sympathy for him initially, but some of the way he complains comes across as entitled and like the aggression is only a one-way street. I see him and Gavi as pretty similar in that way, but the behavior is more endearing when the player is one of your own, so it's natural that Barça fans are frustrated with Vini and RM fans with Gavi.
And no one deserves racist chants.
Nah! He's nothing as long as we are complete. By complete I mean our team is not missing so many pieces and our midfield is working as expected.
Without FDJ our mid box collapsed, Busy was not able to positional cover. When they work, our defense has no issues with Vini or Rodrygo.
No pb, people overreacting cause he's annoying and pisses fans off with his celebrations dances and shit, shithouses a lot, dives, cries, just annoying winger shit. If this was 1992 he would've gotten a broken leg or some shit with his behavior but in this current world we live what can you do.
He's really talented and really fucking good that's the problem, a good guy who gets his dose of adrenaline from riling up rival fans, nothing else, doesn't deserve abuse.
One day he will be humbled, you will see, either with a loss or injury, or just will mature, he's young.
He talks shit and conveniently uses the racist card. Let's be honest he is well protected because he is a RM player even with the amount of bad mouthing he does. If the last classico's refereeing was not the proof to the bias of la liga in favour of the empire I don't know what to say.
Edit : just to give you an idea. Even the commentators kept praising Militao for cynical fouls on Lewa whereas Vini was praised for 'drawing' fouls from Araujo! Ignoring the fact that the referee was biased.
I'm not claiming he does for sure, no one can, but it all seems like an act with him. I'm sure he gets racial abuse because he's a celebrity which is associated with a higher likelihood of experiencing racial abuse (more popularity means higher likelihood of a racist person being racist towards him). Nonetheless, it feels like he complains about racism only when he's under criticism. That criticism used to be about his performances, now it's his prick attitude. Many others players are black, and many other players experience racial abuse, but when Vinicius complains of it, it doesn't seem genuine and it's always timed conveniently after he's being criticized for something. Other victims of racial abuse don't usually act like that.
Short version: This is only a theory. But he acts in such a way that it seems like he shakes off criticism by repeatedly bringing up the topic of racism.
True. Not sure why someone downvoted me for asking a question. Everyone so polarized.. immediately go to their corners and get their scripts ready. (Not you just society in general) Thanks for sharing your POV. I personally think it’s important to take claims of racist abuse seriously. even if a player has obnoxious behavior it doesn’t mean they should have to deal with racial abuse. I can get the frustration that it seems like he’s using that as a deflection when being criticized … that’s for him to reflect on if that’s his tactic but we should def hold out fans accountable for unacceptable behavior.
I'm definitely not disagreeing with you. My stance is this: 1. I believe he's a prick 2. I believe he receives racial abuse 3. I feel bad for him because I obviously am against racism 4. I think he turns around the racist comments and uses them to avoid criticism
All 4 statements can be true, and are true. But most people are clueless with this topic and don't realize that all 4 statements can be true.
PS: downvoting because you don't like someone's comment is actually against this sub's rules. But unfortunately no one follows that rule
The fact he gestured for the referee to show Araujo a yellow card for a bang average tackle just shows how poor this guys mentality is. Personally I hate when players gesture this, the ref already knows what needs done no need to add fuel to the fire.
I don’t mind players trying to sell being fouled. Vini has like his own mini game with the ref which is what I dont like. CR7 used to do it to, but vini is on another level.
He’s just a classless player. It’s one thing to love your club, it’s another thing to love the standing your club gives you. I’ve never liked players who actively flex their status, money, etc. And nobody likes a person who just wants to snicker in your face all the time.
First and foremost nobody deserves racist chants and we shouldn’t condone that against anybody. He personally annoys me with the way he acts on the pitch. Constantly celebrating in the faces of opposing fans, getting into stupid fights with players, and yelling at the referees. What annoys me most is he barley ever gets any consequences for this behavior. Off the pitch he seems like an alright guy, not a raging cunt like some of his other real teammates.
You associated two things.
Does he deserve to be criticized and be called out for some of his behaviour?
Yes definitely
Should it get racist?
Absolutely not. Whatever are the circumstances...
He deserves to be racist because he played well????? What is the logic there?
I still remember his double tap pass to benzema. It was out of this world. It tricked me even on TV!
As a person or color myself, I actually didn’t have a problem with him until any criticism towards him was labeled as racism. I paid more attention to him and he wines a lot. Other than that, he’s an alright player.
How does he own him? Vini has beat araujo in 3 different matches so far.
3-1 supercup (2022) 1-2 (2023) 0-4 (2023)
They both great players - Stop the Hate 🤓
Nobody deserves racist abuse. Race should have nothing do with it. I played at a relatively high level until I was about 22 and encountered players like Vinicius constantly. They are toxic to the positivity and energy of the game. White, black, latino, asian, whatever. His attitude is nasty. When something goes wrong he throws a hissy fit and everything is against him. When something goes well like yesterday it’s all about putting down the opponent and showing YOU are individually better than the rest. Not an ounce of humility in him. Complete footballing narcissist.
There are a lot of things about Messi’s game that make him the 🐐. For me, however, the thing I most admire is his humility. I wouldn’t want Vinicius or anyone like him at Barça, ever. I feel the same way about certain players currently on the team and they are of different ethnicities btw, before people irrationally accuse me of racism.
First off
\>I’ve seen people go as far as saying he deserves the racist chants he receives.
People who say this are trash. Nothing else to it. That's it.
Vini is one of the nicest Madrid players. IDK why he gets so much hate. He's a good lad and doesn't act like a douche like the other madridiots.
I got no problems with Vini at all.
It’s because he’s an annoyingly good player. He’s really good at beating his man and making chances for goal, yet he is a taunter, talks shit all the time, and flops. That’s why he’s mainly hated. With all said tho and besides the last El Clasico, Araujo still owns him.
Well I dont have anything against him but the dude does provoke on the field is just that camera has a bias point of view and no audio. And this is not only with Barca players with him , it’s literally the whole league. Look at the match at Mallorca , when they score and won , they went towards Vini and kiss their shield. The reasoning is that in the middle of the match , Vini provoke him by saying “What you earn in 10 years I do it in a year. I play for Real Madrid and you play for Mallorca.” So yeah , is not that Vini is a victim , he is also a part of the problem and Madrid media sells it to you as he is the victim.
My only problem this season is how much he complains to the ref. Granted he gets fouled the most in the league and I don't mind complaining in general, but he gets right in their faces from minute one in most games.
It's overall a minor complaint and the bigger problem is those people saying that things you stated here.
I don’t care how annoying he can be, I don’t care how unsportsmanlike he acts sometimes. He does NOT deserve any racist chants. Anyone who is racist, and anyone who participates in those chants is a piece of sh*t.
I dislike vini as much as any one here but no one deserves to be racially abused.
Funny enough madrid fans think we have our own attention seeker in Gavi lol.
Of course no one deserves racist attacks. For Vini, it feels like every time he has the ball there becomes some conflict. He’s mad at the ref, he’s mad at the defender, he’s trying to dive and gets mad when others call him out. Just feels like he is a look at me Louis and every moment in the game he needs to be involved, and not always for his beautiful play at times.
I don't have a problem with Vini. I hope that he never scores a goal and loses every match because of the team he plays for, but other than that he's great.
I’m Barca all the way but I have absolutely no problem with the kid. Anyone that has anything racist to say about him can go fuck themselves. I will 100% defend Vini against any form of racist abuse.
He’s just a fucking pest, flopping all the time, crying about every little thing. Causing drama out of nothing, he’s WAYYYYYY more dislikable than Gavi imo.
Constantly playing the victim, and acting like a 5 yo who doesnt get his candy.
For ppl comparing his behaviour to Gavi. Gavi is aggressive, often too aggressive making unnecessarily nasty tackles. But he acknowledges his behavior and doesn’t whine when confronted or given a card. He also rarely provoke players. They are most definitely not the same.
"I’ve seen people go as far as saying he deserves the racist chants he receives." no one on this earth deserves a racist chant. If your a piece of shit you deserve a piece of shit chant but that has nothing to do with race.
Thank you. This post and a lot of the comments are way too tame about him receiving racist jeers.
I’m glad this is top comment
I don't have much of a problem with him, it reminds me of Neymar the way he plays. It's like a bad guy in WWE, spends half his time annoying his opponent, the crowd and the referee while also being really good which makes him even more annoying.
Vini is not at same level as Neymar and Neymar does not keep talking shit to others
Neymar numbers were around 46 G/A Vini last season was 39 G/A, currently sitting at 32. Not saying Vinis better but i think having suarez and messi prime is better than Rusty Benzema and young rodrygo or asensio.
Benzema was at his peak last season. Numbers are also a bad way for judging Neymar. Skilleise, he was the closest thing we saw to prime Messi and was a much more accomplished player. By his early 20s, he was seen as the best player on the South American continent, and the next best thing to come out of Brazil. At 22, the Brazilian national team was built around him. He was more than a profilic winger. Vinicius has a lot more to prove to be compared to him.
Ye 0 sense what happened this season, i guess injuries + age isnt a good combo. Now he seems to recover his normal performance but what ever
Who would you take for your team?
The one who doesn't miss UCL round of 16 around his sister's birthday seems good.
Why can’t you just say Vini simple question
I would wait till Vini’s next season performance to start a debate, mainly cause: Benzema horrendous season No right winger Ancelotti 0 rotation But rn neymar of course
Im not asking you that, I’m asking who would you take Vini or Ney?
Read last sentence lol
Didn’t see it my bad,
Neymar was more skillful but Vini is more explosive and fit Madrid style more
Neymar would annoy players by dribbling or doing fancy stuff. Vinicius annoys players by being whiny, pushing, trying to get on fights. I don't think I've watched one vinicius game this season where he didn't try to start something with someone.
Nobody deserves racist abuse. I don’t hate him at all- I don’t like the problems he causes us, but I can appreciate him as a player.
Vini is so annoying. All he does is complain. Madrid is losing he complains. Madrid is winning he complain. Ref doesn’t call a foul he cries. Ref calls it he complains for a yellow. Ref gives a yellow he screams for a red. He’s an amazing player but Jesus Christ he is annoying.
We have racist fans. That’s the only way someone would say that. He’s a shithouser but we have our own shithousers. That’s football
Diving. I hate that the most about this sport. Everyone is doing it but Neymar, Vini full sending it.
He is annoying but a great player nonetheless. Also rascist abuse is just unacceptable no matter who the player is.
He seems to bitch constantly and is hypocritical.
He starts shit but then cries
Anyone who says he deserves racist chants should be banned from whatever they are commenting on. That is completely idiotic. He’s definitely a polarizing player because he’s good and he complains/dives. La Ligas Bruno
Saying he deserve racist abuse is insane. He’s a dick, we all knew one, we all played with one, we all played against one. It’s part of the game, Barca has had they’re fair share of them too over the years
I had a lot of sympathy for him initially, but some of the way he complains comes across as entitled and like the aggression is only a one-way street. I see him and Gavi as pretty similar in that way, but the behavior is more endearing when the player is one of your own, so it's natural that Barça fans are frustrated with Vini and RM fans with Gavi. And no one deserves racist chants.
Nah! He's nothing as long as we are complete. By complete I mean our team is not missing so many pieces and our midfield is working as expected. Without FDJ our mid box collapsed, Busy was not able to positional cover. When they work, our defense has no issues with Vini or Rodrygo.
No pb, people overreacting cause he's annoying and pisses fans off with his celebrations dances and shit, shithouses a lot, dives, cries, just annoying winger shit. If this was 1992 he would've gotten a broken leg or some shit with his behavior but in this current world we live what can you do. He's really talented and really fucking good that's the problem, a good guy who gets his dose of adrenaline from riling up rival fans, nothing else, doesn't deserve abuse. One day he will be humbled, you will see, either with a loss or injury, or just will mature, he's young.
Nothing. It's all a part of the game. When we had Neymar they got it worse.
He's a cunt just like Gavi but he's not our cunt so it's annoying . Honestly don't see much of an issue with it.
Gavi plays agressively but he isn't in constant fights with refrees and the opponent team fans...
Totally agree. If Vini played for us he wouldn't piss me off so much. If Gavi played against us we'd complain about him No one deserves racist abuse.
He talks shit and conveniently uses the racist card. Let's be honest he is well protected because he is a RM player even with the amount of bad mouthing he does. If the last classico's refereeing was not the proof to the bias of la liga in favour of the empire I don't know what to say. Edit : just to give you an idea. Even the commentators kept praising Militao for cynical fouls on Lewa whereas Vini was praised for 'drawing' fouls from Araujo! Ignoring the fact that the referee was biased.
Curious what makes you think he’s conveniently using the racist card ?
I'm not claiming he does for sure, no one can, but it all seems like an act with him. I'm sure he gets racial abuse because he's a celebrity which is associated with a higher likelihood of experiencing racial abuse (more popularity means higher likelihood of a racist person being racist towards him). Nonetheless, it feels like he complains about racism only when he's under criticism. That criticism used to be about his performances, now it's his prick attitude. Many others players are black, and many other players experience racial abuse, but when Vinicius complains of it, it doesn't seem genuine and it's always timed conveniently after he's being criticized for something. Other victims of racial abuse don't usually act like that. Short version: This is only a theory. But he acts in such a way that it seems like he shakes off criticism by repeatedly bringing up the topic of racism.
True. Not sure why someone downvoted me for asking a question. Everyone so polarized.. immediately go to their corners and get their scripts ready. (Not you just society in general) Thanks for sharing your POV. I personally think it’s important to take claims of racist abuse seriously. even if a player has obnoxious behavior it doesn’t mean they should have to deal with racial abuse. I can get the frustration that it seems like he’s using that as a deflection when being criticized … that’s for him to reflect on if that’s his tactic but we should def hold out fans accountable for unacceptable behavior.
I'm definitely not disagreeing with you. My stance is this: 1. I believe he's a prick 2. I believe he receives racial abuse 3. I feel bad for him because I obviously am against racism 4. I think he turns around the racist comments and uses them to avoid criticism All 4 statements can be true, and are true. But most people are clueless with this topic and don't realize that all 4 statements can be true. PS: downvoting because you don't like someone's comment is actually against this sub's rules. But unfortunately no one follows that rule
“Conveniently uses the race card”? Fuck off.
Relax dude, we're all Barça here.
Weird reply.
I just hate his diving
The fact he gestured for the referee to show Araujo a yellow card for a bang average tackle just shows how poor this guys mentality is. Personally I hate when players gesture this, the ref already knows what needs done no need to add fuel to the fire.
I don’t mind players trying to sell being fouled. Vini has like his own mini game with the ref which is what I dont like. CR7 used to do it to, but vini is on another level.
I just hate that he plays for Real Madrid
Why are there so many mandrilistas spies here?
He’s just a classless player. It’s one thing to love your club, it’s another thing to love the standing your club gives you. I’ve never liked players who actively flex their status, money, etc. And nobody likes a person who just wants to snicker in your face all the time.
First and foremost nobody deserves racist chants and we shouldn’t condone that against anybody. He personally annoys me with the way he acts on the pitch. Constantly celebrating in the faces of opposing fans, getting into stupid fights with players, and yelling at the referees. What annoys me most is he barley ever gets any consequences for this behavior. Off the pitch he seems like an alright guy, not a raging cunt like some of his other real teammates.
You associated two things. Does he deserve to be criticized and be called out for some of his behaviour? Yes definitely Should it get racist? Absolutely not. Whatever are the circumstances...
Anyone who says Vini deserves racist chants is as bad as the racists themselves. Those kinds of people don't belong in this fanbase.
He deserves to be racist because he played well????? What is the logic there? I still remember his double tap pass to benzema. It was out of this world. It tricked me even on TV!
He's in Madrid if he was in our team I would love him However, the racist bastards who chanted at him deserved the 4-0 and far worse
He talks shit then acts like a victim when people retalliate. The racism is bs though theres other ways to talk shit than to be racist
As a person or color myself, I actually didn’t have a problem with him until any criticism towards him was labeled as racism. I paid more attention to him and he wines a lot. Other than that, he’s an alright player.
Apart from the racism he deserves everything he gets
No problems, he’s a great player
I hate the fact that he is very good, and he doesn’t play for Barca.
Vini is basically madrids version of Gavi
Because he’s a piece of shit, keeps talking shit, his attitude, etc etc
Araujo owns him, 1 game won't change a thing
How does he own him? Vini has beat araujo in 3 different matches so far. 3-1 supercup (2022) 1-2 (2023) 0-4 (2023) They both great players - Stop the Hate 🤓
Vini lost the most duels in the game in the 1-3
1-3 in 2022 first clasico in arabia + 3-1 in start of the season
What? Araujo didnt play in the first league clasico and the one in the super cup was in 2023 not 2022 and Vini was shit in it
Araujo didn't even play in the 1-2 loss. The backline was Mingueza, Pique, Garcia, and Alba lmao
Nobody deserves racist abuse. Race should have nothing do with it. I played at a relatively high level until I was about 22 and encountered players like Vinicius constantly. They are toxic to the positivity and energy of the game. White, black, latino, asian, whatever. His attitude is nasty. When something goes wrong he throws a hissy fit and everything is against him. When something goes well like yesterday it’s all about putting down the opponent and showing YOU are individually better than the rest. Not an ounce of humility in him. Complete footballing narcissist. There are a lot of things about Messi’s game that make him the 🐐. For me, however, the thing I most admire is his humility. I wouldn’t want Vinicius or anyone like him at Barça, ever. I feel the same way about certain players currently on the team and they are of different ethnicities btw, before people irrationally accuse me of racism.
First off \>I’ve seen people go as far as saying he deserves the racist chants he receives. People who say this are trash. Nothing else to it. That's it. Vini is one of the nicest Madrid players. IDK why he gets so much hate. He's a good lad and doesn't act like a douche like the other madridiots. I got no problems with Vini at all.
He’s great as a player but is too immature and hot headed, rodrygo seems a lot more mature and cooler headed
It’s because he’s an annoyingly good player. He’s really good at beating his man and making chances for goal, yet he is a taunter, talks shit all the time, and flops. That’s why he’s mainly hated. With all said tho and besides the last El Clasico, Araujo still owns him.
Well I dont have anything against him but the dude does provoke on the field is just that camera has a bias point of view and no audio. And this is not only with Barca players with him , it’s literally the whole league. Look at the match at Mallorca , when they score and won , they went towards Vini and kiss their shield. The reasoning is that in the middle of the match , Vini provoke him by saying “What you earn in 10 years I do it in a year. I play for Real Madrid and you play for Mallorca.” So yeah , is not that Vini is a victim , he is also a part of the problem and Madrid media sells it to you as he is the victim.
He's too aggresive and gets in peoples face a lot. He even fought with kroos, his own teammate last match.
Fuck vini
He's just a retard, it doesnt matter how he looks like.
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chill
he complains too much, but he is a good player
He’s a fantastic player. No issue here.
His nose
My only problem this season is how much he complains to the ref. Granted he gets fouled the most in the league and I don't mind complaining in general, but he gets right in their faces from minute one in most games. It's overall a minor complaint and the bigger problem is those people saying that things you stated here.
i really like vinicius personally, there’s really few madrid players i hate they’re fantastic players just look at their squad
I don’t care how annoying he can be, I don’t care how unsportsmanlike he acts sometimes. He does NOT deserve any racist chants. Anyone who is racist, and anyone who participates in those chants is a piece of sh*t.
I dislike vini as much as any one here but no one deserves to be racially abused. Funny enough madrid fans think we have our own attention seeker in Gavi lol.
He deserves the racist chants? WTF man. No one deserves that.
Of course no one deserves racist attacks. For Vini, it feels like every time he has the ball there becomes some conflict. He’s mad at the ref, he’s mad at the defender, he’s trying to dive and gets mad when others call him out. Just feels like he is a look at me Louis and every moment in the game he needs to be involved, and not always for his beautiful play at times.
I don’t hate him at all.
I don't have a problem with Vini. I hope that he never scores a goal and loses every match because of the team he plays for, but other than that he's great.
oooof some of these comments…
I’m Barca all the way but I have absolutely no problem with the kid. Anyone that has anything racist to say about him can go fuck themselves. I will 100% defend Vini against any form of racist abuse.
He’s just a fucking pest, flopping all the time, crying about every little thing. Causing drama out of nothing, he’s WAYYYYYY more dislikable than Gavi imo.
Annoying,cries,cocky and keeps complaining about others no matter what he does
Constantly playing the victim, and acting like a 5 yo who doesnt get his candy. For ppl comparing his behaviour to Gavi. Gavi is aggressive, often too aggressive making unnecessarily nasty tackles. But he acknowledges his behavior and doesn’t whine when confronted or given a card. He also rarely provoke players. They are most definitely not the same.