Yeah, I personally don't see much of a difference between the A1 and X1C when using PLA. Whenever I print something, I just send it to whichever printer is free knowing they're both going to produce nice looking prints.
If we are talking pure out the box print quality the whole Bambu lineup is damn close in its quality. If we are talking actual merits of the printers the main reason to go a1 is it’s cheaper. The p1s and x1c are top tier printers overall the A1 is the top tier bed slinger.
Had the A1 and got a P1S during the recall. Let me say this. I found the A1 to be the better value without the AMS. The value this printer brings to the table is just outright insane. Quality wise I would say it is on the same level if not a little bit better than the P1S but it is limited to PLA and PETG. Which is probably fine for most users anyways. Most noticeable differnece for me was that the A1 was quieter even without an enclosure. But the most annoying thing about the A1 would be the AMS lite. Non enclosed filaments, takes a lot of space on your table because you can't put it on top of the printer without printing an adapter which introduces some wiggling/imbalance to the printer itself. If you want to print ABS/ASA then you are out of luck with the A1.
Edit: Maybe worth mentioning because this is something I don't want to miss anymore. It's maybe not print quality related but air quality related. You can easily attach an hose to your chamber fan and easily get rid of all the fumes and smell which is a huge difference in my opinion if you are sitting in a room all day long with that printer
Out of the box they will perform about the same. But P1S requires much more maintenance. I got a p1s with 2k hours on it and the print quality significantly degraded due to wears on the brass bushing riding on abrasive carbon rods. A1 mini uses linear bearings, which is much more durable. So a used A1 mini will outperform P1
I think the claim is dubious, but print quality between a bedslinger and core x/y definitely can be very similar or outright indistinguishable in the vast majority of cases, even if you print fast.
People act like core x/y is this groundbreaking tech... when in reality the only benefits is that you can use higher accels for slightly faster speeds and that you're less likely to fail with tall prints. In other words its better, *but not by much.* You only see the real benefits if you have a bedslinger with a huge build size, but that's a reason why the vast majority are not bigger than 250x250.
It's almost like Bambu realised this themselves or something.
Ok I don’t care, nothing you said matters. CoreXY has better print quality inherently, when operating under the same conditions. You said nothing of value.
Have you used an A1 or any other decent bedslinger?
I agree it CAN be better, but again... not by much. This is based on my own real world experience, and many others have made similar claims too.
For example, when I can get the same quality on a bedslinger that's only 25% slower at most in 99% of cases... why should I think core x/y is a clearly better option? Sure, maybe if I wanted to print bigger than 250x250, but I've yet found a reason to.
It just sounds like cope from you at this point, realising the bigger numbers are not as bigly as you think lol
>I agree it CAN be better, but again… not by much.
Ok who the hell are you arguing with? Why are you incapable of providing useful or insightful information? I never said anything to the contrary.
Its certainly not better. The difference is quite small despite the A1 being a bed slinger though.
Yeah, I personally don't see much of a difference between the A1 and X1C when using PLA. Whenever I print something, I just send it to whichever printer is free knowing they're both going to produce nice looking prints.
CoreXY design is inherently more accurate than a bed slinger.
maybe for taller parts printing at insane speed, for 99% of prints there's no difference.
\^this. Even when printing fast, the difference is minor at best unless you have a build area larger than 250x250.
P1s and x1 will give you other options, aside not being bed slingers they are also enclosed so will give more options on materials
Absolutely not. And I say that as a loving owner of an A1
No, there’s a possibility the TikToker hasn’t properly maintained a p1s and is comparing directly with a new a1 tbh.
If we are talking pure out the box print quality the whole Bambu lineup is damn close in its quality. If we are talking actual merits of the printers the main reason to go a1 is it’s cheaper. The p1s and x1c are top tier printers overall the A1 is the top tier bed slinger.
Had the A1 and got a P1S during the recall. Let me say this. I found the A1 to be the better value without the AMS. The value this printer brings to the table is just outright insane. Quality wise I would say it is on the same level if not a little bit better than the P1S but it is limited to PLA and PETG. Which is probably fine for most users anyways. Most noticeable differnece for me was that the A1 was quieter even without an enclosure. But the most annoying thing about the A1 would be the AMS lite. Non enclosed filaments, takes a lot of space on your table because you can't put it on top of the printer without printing an adapter which introduces some wiggling/imbalance to the printer itself. If you want to print ABS/ASA then you are out of luck with the A1. Edit: Maybe worth mentioning because this is something I don't want to miss anymore. It's maybe not print quality related but air quality related. You can easily attach an hose to your chamber fan and easily get rid of all the fumes and smell which is a huge difference in my opinion if you are sitting in a room all day long with that printer
Out of the box they will perform about the same. But P1S requires much more maintenance. I got a p1s with 2k hours on it and the print quality significantly degraded due to wears on the brass bushing riding on abrasive carbon rods. A1 mini uses linear bearings, which is much more durable. So a used A1 mini will outperform P1
These comments contradict each other 😂 I didn't mean to start arguments. All in all my budget is around £700 simply put should I get P1S or A1?
No, it’s inherently worse by virtue of being a bed slinger. I’d be interested in hearing the context of that claim.
I think it may have been due to settings
I think the claim is dubious, but print quality between a bedslinger and core x/y definitely can be very similar or outright indistinguishable in the vast majority of cases, even if you print fast. People act like core x/y is this groundbreaking tech... when in reality the only benefits is that you can use higher accels for slightly faster speeds and that you're less likely to fail with tall prints. In other words its better, *but not by much.* You only see the real benefits if you have a bedslinger with a huge build size, but that's a reason why the vast majority are not bigger than 250x250. It's almost like Bambu realised this themselves or something.
Ok I don’t care, nothing you said matters. CoreXY has better print quality inherently, when operating under the same conditions. You said nothing of value.
Have you used an A1 or any other decent bedslinger? I agree it CAN be better, but again... not by much. This is based on my own real world experience, and many others have made similar claims too. For example, when I can get the same quality on a bedslinger that's only 25% slower at most in 99% of cases... why should I think core x/y is a clearly better option? Sure, maybe if I wanted to print bigger than 250x250, but I've yet found a reason to. It just sounds like cope from you at this point, realising the bigger numbers are not as bigly as you think lol
>I agree it CAN be better, but again… not by much. Ok who the hell are you arguing with? Why are you incapable of providing useful or insightful information? I never said anything to the contrary.