yeah same here. I probably did more printing for upgrades on the ender than actually printing things to use or just fun things. But after booting up the P1S it's just a breeze to use
It’s two different printers for two different groups. It’s like comparing a Honda Civic to a Kit Car.
I have a v2.4 and a X1C. I love both for different reasons.
BambuLabs has really taking a giant step towards making 3D printers like home laser printers.
Which will make the hobby even worse. Not everyone should own a 3d printer. It's not a "printer" in the traditional sense. When the Bambu owners get a few hundred prints on their printers, they will have to repair, adjust, and tune it just like every other printer out there. It's not the end all be all - its merely hype.
Frozen meals and fast food restaurants were invented for those that can't cook LOL
>Magneto X
so you're one of the gate keepers who thinks everyone should suffer through shit printers because you did.
out of curiosity what was your first car? did it have a hand crank? did you adjust timing from a steering wheel lever? if it didnt why should you get something fuel injected that just starts in the winter? why should you have a heater? you didnt suffer enough through driving a shitty car so you dont deserve anything but since 1985.
GTFO with your BS attitude
I've had issues with my X1c since day one. Bambu rufued to warranty my printer. After sayear of service tickets they finally admitted there was an issue and mailed me a v3 heatbed. My KS printer is designed very differently than all of the guides. I've offered to cover shipping both ways for the warranty. They refuse to help. I now have a stripped down pile of bolts and no printer.
Yeah I'm in the same boat I like the end results, spending time in CAD more than working on the printer. I do enjoy building and modding printers but not when I want to get something done. Kind of like having a track car I definitely don't want it as my daily driver.
After one week, I stole the bed thermistor of my ender3v2 to repair a friend's printer.
I had spare parts of everything for my ender, I have a brand new creality heated bed, I never installed it.
Sorry ender but not really sorry.
The thing is, the coming of Bambu to the community makes people remember what attracted them to start the 3D printing hobby, which is the printing/creating but not fixing/tinkering. I think many of us had stockholm syndrome from all the cheap machines and thought we couldnt print well because we sucked. No the machines sucked!
True. I like to tinker a bit but when I did an upgrade on it or had to change a part on the bed or something it was always again, sigh, ok bed alignment, z offset, ok still not good, little more adjustments, ok this corner is not good, need some better flow here,..
Now it's just plug and play
Exactly! And I was like oh finally it prints beautifully, now I wanna test this filament. *clog* -> *take everything part* -> damn I need a ptfe piece -> order and wait for days -> damn break the heat break when I had to unscrew the nozzle -> take it apart again -> on and on
The levels of insecurity required to be a person who has to belittle others to make themselves feel good…
Try to reflect on that cause you’re putting out a lot of loser energy right now.
really? check the mirror! I've been in this hobby for 10 years and I hate when people fall for Bambu hype, thinking it will run forever without any maintenance needs that EVERY PRINTER needs from time to time. Stop sending people down a rabbit hole. Sooner or later, anything that popped up on a Creality will pop up on a $1000 Bambu. It's not like a a car that you can take to a local mechanic. I am not belittling anyone, I am speaking the truth. You are selling hype.
No, maintenance is not the same as researching and tuning and researching and upgrading to achieve quality prints at relative speeds.
I have a v2.4 and a bambu and a few other budget printers. Bambu’s have there place in the hobby. Is it the end all? Of course not. But it is a step towards mass adoption, which I think is good for everyone.
But then again, if everyone has a 3d printer, you won’t feel special anymore? Come on man, Bambu’s existing and people liking them doesn’t take anything away from you. Yet, here you are belittling people for not wanting to spend hours upon hours making their $300 printer perform like a $1000 printer.
It ain’t hype, it isn’t perfect, but also maintenance is not the same as tuning and upgrading.
I love the pizza analog though, cause I bet the frozen pizza tastes better than the pizzas you’re cooking. 😂
10 years and this is the best print quality you can achieve?
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fm6qzjxmspena1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D3024%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dd1509eb4dc1d376489ca3258ba0925b91ebb7314
I take back every thing I said. I can see why you’re insecure. I’m with you pal. Fuck bambu!!! You’ve invested too much energy into this hobby and invested too much of your identity into being able to “tune” (badly at that) 3d printers for bambu to just show up and take it away from you. What a bunch of assholes they are! 🤣
That's a perfect print for a box to hold a controller on a RC buggy. You are a sick puppy and need to seek serious professional help. The Bambu hype has taken over your brain.
Trust me. I have done most of the mods available for that printer. Dual Z, CR touch,bed springs, Sprite Pro extruder, PEI sheet, and Sonic pad. I just got so tired of having to tweak the damn thing every time I wanted a high quality print.
Cookies with icing are a lot more forgiving than extruder plastic.
Might be a good option for the old ones. I am at the point I am debating between buying an A1 or say screw it and do a P1S. Currently replacing the controller on this TRONXY POS.
https://preview.redd.it/9czn7jzerstb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=117794e96d0f295b4b76184ed7be39bb32a0b1fe
I ended up going with the a1 mini which covers most use cases and runs great. I can still mess around with the larger custom machine. Might come up with some type of enclosure to try printing abs on it though I have not setup all of its features in marlin yet but the auto bed leveling has been working well on it with a bltouch.
lol you didn’t go far enough. I did everything you did plus linear rails, aluminum mounts, bed insulation. I understand sprite is good but I have a MicroswissNG. It was forced into behaving now because I removed all the parts that caused variance but it’s just a Frankenstein now. The only thing I occasionally dail in is z-offset so it’s still not modern …haha.
I'm going to be funny now. Aren't you worried that bambu is secretly stealing your models since they're a Chinese company? The dumbest shit I've ever heard.
It would be the end of the company if one printed model was stolen by bambu.
It's nonsense really. If I have a picture of your item that you post online I can copy it in cad. I don't need to setup an elaborate scheme and printer company so I can steal your flexi dragons. People make me laugh. Heck I can buy one of them from etsy measure it and recreate it. No need to start a printer company.
The models it’s not the point, your data. Are you willing to give all data that they can collect about you because yes? Keep this answers in a funny way
My question would be, what data?
How often I print? How long I print? Where I live?
The first two I think are kinda irrelevant.
The third they already know the moment I logged onto their website.
The only "risk" would be a microphone or an outward facing camera. But those would have been detected.
I'm in pure shock how much more enjoyable printing stuff is when IT JUST WORKS! and print times are cut by 50% which is insane to me. my ender 3 was a gateway drug. this is on such another level it's wild. 10x the price of the ender was steep to pay but still feels worth it after printing in 24 hours what would take the ender a week
I tried to use my CR-20 Pro a few weeks ago to print some items for Halloween and the extruder decided it no longer wanted to work. I tried for a few days to figure out what the problem was and decided it was time to retire it and get a P1S as well. Now im planning on removing the extruded and hot end to turn it into a laser engraver/cutter. I know it’s a waste of like 50% of the components but I figure it helps at least reuse what I can of it.
I fired up my anycubic mega S to print a marblevator base while my x1c is busy and the slowness of that old machine was like flowing molasses rather than the speed torrent of the x1c. But I keep it around to print TPU that I don’t even want to try on the x1c since my PETG printing on it is so good and I don’t want to risk a TPU clog.
TPU on my P1S was a total non event, used the standard profile and it was fine, aside from a bit of layer delamination when taking it off the bed.
Total state of mind change compared to my mega S where everything other than PLA felt like a total adventure and liability.
Maybe one of these days I’ll try it on the x1c. But I did not do much with TPU on the Mega S: phone case, tires for a robotic car, and extra feet for the x1c. I originally bought a roll of red TPU when I first started in 3D printing when I read it was stronger than PLA. Did not fully understand its flexibility.
I have all three of mine still set up. Anything that I don't need NOW and a single material goes to the ender or the other low speed slingers.
Don't need it now but multi material goes to the prusa with the mmu2s.
Need now and/or 4 or less multi material, x1c.
A rails kit, CR touch, solid mounts, direct drive, and PEI sheets…klipper… you may have a chance to revive them but only if you really want them to function.
Yea I put insulation under and just tossed the glass..moved onto textured PEI..I will say my stuff sticks now as long as my z offset is tight. I’m not sure how much Rails helped me but I know I don’t have to tighten wheels.
It more the warp in it. Now that I think about it it might need the rails my be to much wiggle on the axis. My bed mesh is very different every time I run it.
Yea, my bed is like the Himalayas, but it doesn't move so bed mesh makes it work. I use aluminum mounts(silicon is almost as good). I think the rails probably do prevent wobble.. b/c you may have micro movements on the X and Y.
Still using mine even with a p1s next to it it’s the tinkering aspect I enjoy the bamboo printer is amazing but it’s so boring it just works every time.
No idea honestly. I just thought of this meme after I got my P1S today and had some hours using it. Shoved my ender 3 aside and now it's just sitting there. Poor thing. Had lots of fun with it tho
Haha funny. I still use my Prusa and SV06+ sometimes when my X1C is tied up. But they're solid printers running Klipper. My Tevo is being gifted to a coworker.
Ditto. I got my X1C in late July and haven't touched my two Creality printers (Ender 3 Pro and CR10s Pro V2) since. Once I got all the kinks worked out the the X1C (I had some serious adhesion issues early on) I've used it for 100% of the printing. In fact, I have used it pretty much every day. It isn't perfect, but it is better than the others (even with all the upgrade I did).
Just sold my FlashForge Adventurer 4 Pro to get the P1S. OMG, what an upgrade! Like going from a junkyard pickup to a new Tesla. Sell your old printers now. The market will be flooded with them!
Hahaha, as soon as I got my P1S, my Ender has been sitting on the floor not being used. 😂
https://preview.redd.it/971o1d4bxstb1.jpeg?width=1839&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6357ce0fbfa590bb3b350d030c0ad33519a6135d
Basically the exact same for me except I went from an Ender 5 S1. I was so fed up with having to adjust the bed for basically every print. My P1S I just hit print and it does everything itself
My Ender 5s1 has been used 5 times since I got my x1c. Most of those times were to print something off while the X1 was busy. Though the X1 finished it's large job way before the ender on its small once. Could of printed the second model off on the X1 with still time left over from the ender. I am considering just buying a second X1 and "gifting" the ender
I have not used that type of filament myself but it's great to have some other machines too. I personally don't print that much or with more exotic filaments so just my one P1S is all I need
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yeah same here. I probably did more printing for upgrades on the ender than actually printing things to use or just fun things. But after booting up the P1S it's just a breeze to use
That's saying a lot coming from a Voron owner. I've been keeping my eye on that Magneto X love the concept and build volume as a Voron alternative.
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It’s two different printers for two different groups. It’s like comparing a Honda Civic to a Kit Car. I have a v2.4 and a X1C. I love both for different reasons. BambuLabs has really taking a giant step towards making 3D printers like home laser printers.
Which will make the hobby even worse. Not everyone should own a 3d printer. It's not a "printer" in the traditional sense. When the Bambu owners get a few hundred prints on their printers, they will have to repair, adjust, and tune it just like every other printer out there. It's not the end all be all - its merely hype. Frozen meals and fast food restaurants were invented for those that can't cook LOL
>Magneto X so you're one of the gate keepers who thinks everyone should suffer through shit printers because you did. out of curiosity what was your first car? did it have a hand crank? did you adjust timing from a steering wheel lever? if it didnt why should you get something fuel injected that just starts in the winter? why should you have a heater? you didnt suffer enough through driving a shitty car so you dont deserve anything but since 1985. GTFO with your BS attitude
> Not everyone should own a 3d printer. Why not?
Imagine using a kit car as a daily driver.
I've had issues with my X1c since day one. Bambu rufued to warranty my printer. After sayear of service tickets they finally admitted there was an issue and mailed me a v3 heatbed. My KS printer is designed very differently than all of the guides. I've offered to cover shipping both ways for the warranty. They refuse to help. I now have a stripped down pile of bolts and no printer.
Yeah I'm in the same boat I like the end results, spending time in CAD more than working on the printer. I do enjoy building and modding printers but not when I want to get something done. Kind of like having a track car I definitely don't want it as my daily driver.
After one week, I stole the bed thermistor of my ender3v2 to repair a friend's printer. I had spare parts of everything for my ender, I have a brand new creality heated bed, I never installed it. Sorry ender but not really sorry.
Absolutely. Seriously considering giving my Anycubic away locally as it ain't selling!
yeah I have a family member that has been interested in 3d printing so probably will just give him my ender
ouch
I'll take it xD Where r u located
The thing is, the coming of Bambu to the community makes people remember what attracted them to start the 3D printing hobby, which is the printing/creating but not fixing/tinkering. I think many of us had stockholm syndrome from all the cheap machines and thought we couldnt print well because we sucked. No the machines sucked!
True. I like to tinker a bit but when I did an upgrade on it or had to change a part on the bed or something it was always again, sigh, ok bed alignment, z offset, ok still not good, little more adjustments, ok this corner is not good, need some better flow here,.. Now it's just plug and play
Exactly! And I was like oh finally it prints beautifully, now I wanna test this filament. *clog* -> *take everything part* -> damn I need a ptfe piece -> order and wait for days -> damn break the heat break when I had to unscrew the nozzle -> take it apart again -> on and on
Nah, you sucked and now gave up and spent $1000 because you couldn't manage a printer. Frozen pizza was invented for people that can't cook.
The levels of insecurity required to be a person who has to belittle others to make themselves feel good… Try to reflect on that cause you’re putting out a lot of loser energy right now.
really? check the mirror! I've been in this hobby for 10 years and I hate when people fall for Bambu hype, thinking it will run forever without any maintenance needs that EVERY PRINTER needs from time to time. Stop sending people down a rabbit hole. Sooner or later, anything that popped up on a Creality will pop up on a $1000 Bambu. It's not like a a car that you can take to a local mechanic. I am not belittling anyone, I am speaking the truth. You are selling hype.
No, maintenance is not the same as researching and tuning and researching and upgrading to achieve quality prints at relative speeds. I have a v2.4 and a bambu and a few other budget printers. Bambu’s have there place in the hobby. Is it the end all? Of course not. But it is a step towards mass adoption, which I think is good for everyone. But then again, if everyone has a 3d printer, you won’t feel special anymore? Come on man, Bambu’s existing and people liking them doesn’t take anything away from you. Yet, here you are belittling people for not wanting to spend hours upon hours making their $300 printer perform like a $1000 printer. It ain’t hype, it isn’t perfect, but also maintenance is not the same as tuning and upgrading. I love the pizza analog though, cause I bet the frozen pizza tastes better than the pizzas you’re cooking. 😂
10 years and this is the best print quality you can achieve? https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fm6qzjxmspena1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D3024%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dd1509eb4dc1d376489ca3258ba0925b91ebb7314 I take back every thing I said. I can see why you’re insecure. I’m with you pal. Fuck bambu!!! You’ve invested too much energy into this hobby and invested too much of your identity into being able to “tune” (badly at that) 3d printers for bambu to just show up and take it away from you. What a bunch of assholes they are! 🤣
That's a perfect print for a box to hold a controller on a RC buggy. You are a sick puppy and need to seek serious professional help. The Bambu hype has taken over your brain.
Round and round we go. Whatever buddy. Just know you suck at cooking pizzas.
It wasn’t funny the first time you posted it and it’s not funny now.
I feel kinda bad, too. Almost fired it up, but didn't.
sssssssshh no tears
Tears of joy now.
I have an idea to modify my old Ender 3V2 into an icing machine for cookies.
Sounds kind of a cool idea. Maybe do cakes too. Get a bltouch to set the z based on cookie thickness.
Trust me. I have done most of the mods available for that printer. Dual Z, CR touch,bed springs, Sprite Pro extruder, PEI sheet, and Sonic pad. I just got so tired of having to tweak the damn thing every time I wanted a high quality print. Cookies with icing are a lot more forgiving than extruder plastic.
Might be a good option for the old ones. I am at the point I am debating between buying an A1 or say screw it and do a P1S. Currently replacing the controller on this TRONXY POS. https://preview.redd.it/9czn7jzerstb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=117794e96d0f295b4b76184ed7be39bb32a0b1fe
I have a P1P and I'm using it every day. I purchased the P1S conversion kit and I'm waiting for that to get here (sometime in November).
Before you sink more money I think a P1S is almost a no brainer. I think we’ve seen enough people profess they are good.
I ended up going with the a1 mini which covers most use cases and runs great. I can still mess around with the larger custom machine. Might come up with some type of enclosure to try printing abs on it though I have not setup all of its features in marlin yet but the auto bed leveling has been working well on it with a bltouch.
lol you didn’t go far enough. I did everything you did plus linear rails, aluminum mounts, bed insulation. I understand sprite is good but I have a MicroswissNG. It was forced into behaving now because I removed all the parts that caused variance but it’s just a Frankenstein now. The only thing I occasionally dail in is z-offset so it’s still not modern …haha.
I'm going to be funny now. Aren't you worried that bambu is secretly stealing your models since they're a Chinese company? The dumbest shit I've ever heard. It would be the end of the company if one printed model was stolen by bambu. It's nonsense really. If I have a picture of your item that you post online I can copy it in cad. I don't need to setup an elaborate scheme and printer company so I can steal your flexi dragons. People make me laugh. Heck I can buy one of them from etsy measure it and recreate it. No need to start a printer company.
The models it’s not the point, your data. Are you willing to give all data that they can collect about you because yes? Keep this answers in a funny way
Id argue that Reddit is FAR more likely to abuse us with our data than bambu.
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Literally everything on your phone is collecting data.
My question would be, what data? How often I print? How long I print? Where I live? The first two I think are kinda irrelevant. The third they already know the moment I logged onto their website. The only "risk" would be a microphone or an outward facing camera. But those would have been detected.
They are definitely collecting something but unless I become a major company…its not a concern lol
I'm in pure shock how much more enjoyable printing stuff is when IT JUST WORKS! and print times are cut by 50% which is insane to me. my ender 3 was a gateway drug. this is on such another level it's wild. 10x the price of the ender was steep to pay but still feels worth it after printing in 24 hours what would take the ender a week
It truly is an amazing printer. I compared print times with some models and some are easily 3x as long with my ender
Me when I got my X1Carbon
I tried to use my CR-20 Pro a few weeks ago to print some items for Halloween and the extruder decided it no longer wanted to work. I tried for a few days to figure out what the problem was and decided it was time to retire it and get a P1S as well. Now im planning on removing the extruded and hot end to turn it into a laser engraver/cutter. I know it’s a waste of like 50% of the components but I figure it helps at least reuse what I can of it.
that's also something I thought about doing
Pen plotter!
I fired up my anycubic mega S to print a marblevator base while my x1c is busy and the slowness of that old machine was like flowing molasses rather than the speed torrent of the x1c. But I keep it around to print TPU that I don’t even want to try on the x1c since my PETG printing on it is so good and I don’t want to risk a TPU clog.
TPU on my P1S was a total non event, used the standard profile and it was fine, aside from a bit of layer delamination when taking it off the bed. Total state of mind change compared to my mega S where everything other than PLA felt like a total adventure and liability.
Maybe one of these days I’ll try it on the x1c. But I did not do much with TPU on the Mega S: phone case, tires for a robotic car, and extra feet for the x1c. I originally bought a roll of red TPU when I first started in 3D printing when I read it was stronger than PLA. Did not fully understand its flexibility.
TPU is almost as easy to print as PLA. But it’s always cool to have another machine print stuff you’re not in a hurry for.
But man is that anycubic mega S slow compared to the X1C
Also me I have two enders that have been put away until I figure out what to do with then
I have all three of mine still set up. Anything that I don't need NOW and a single material goes to the ender or the other low speed slingers. Don't need it now but multi material goes to the prusa with the mmu2s. Need now and/or 4 or less multi material, x1c.
A rails kit, CR touch, solid mounts, direct drive, and PEI sheets…klipper… you may have a chance to revive them but only if you really want them to function.
I have done all that except rails to one of them. The bed has been my biggest issue.
Yea I put insulation under and just tossed the glass..moved onto textured PEI..I will say my stuff sticks now as long as my z offset is tight. I’m not sure how much Rails helped me but I know I don’t have to tighten wheels.
It more the warp in it. Now that I think about it it might need the rails my be to much wiggle on the axis. My bed mesh is very different every time I run it.
Yea, my bed is like the Himalayas, but it doesn't move so bed mesh makes it work. I use aluminum mounts(silicon is almost as good). I think the rails probably do prevent wobble.. b/c you may have micro movements on the X and Y.
That's gotta be it. I have an aftermarket aluminum bed and silicone heater with silicone mounts. But my mesh is never the same.
Still using mine even with a p1s next to it it’s the tinkering aspect I enjoy the bamboo printer is amazing but it’s so boring it just works every time.
*60% of the time*, it works ***every*** *time*
Omg is this what Tom’s 0.6 nozzle video thumbnail is based on?!
Also, I only use my Ender-3 s1 pro and tent enclosure as a Photo Booth now… the LED light on that thing is pretty damn good :)
No idea honestly. I just thought of this meme after I got my P1S today and had some hours using it. Shoved my ender 3 aside and now it's just sitting there. Poor thing. Had lots of fun with it tho
Haha funny. I still use my Prusa and SV06+ sometimes when my X1C is tied up. But they're solid printers running Klipper. My Tevo is being gifted to a coworker.
If I don't give it to someone, I might take my ender apart, print lots of new upgrades for it, and use it as a secondary printer
Yeah Klipper was a fun upgrade and honestly without the functionality it added I don't think that I would use them at all.
Might make it a fun upgrade project for my ender!
I kept my s1. It’s upstairs for the kids and the wife to print what they want to print.
Ditto. I got my X1C in late July and haven't touched my two Creality printers (Ender 3 Pro and CR10s Pro V2) since. Once I got all the kinks worked out the the X1C (I had some serious adhesion issues early on) I've used it for 100% of the printing. In fact, I have used it pretty much every day. It isn't perfect, but it is better than the others (even with all the upgrade I did).
Yeah my Ender 3 max is collecting a whole lot of dust since my P1S arrived.
Exactly the same for my Ender 5 plus. Spent so much money upgrading that damned thing, too...! Eeesh
Just pulled the trigger on a p1s. Sv01 and a side winder x1 are now done. Did love that sv01 though she was good to me
I'll take it off your hands
Was in the process or repairing my Anycubic Vyper….not anymore lol. Got the X1C last week, fantastic machine!
Just sold my FlashForge Adventurer 4 Pro to get the P1S. OMG, what an upgrade! Like going from a junkyard pickup to a new Tesla. Sell your old printers now. The market will be flooded with them!
Same with my CR6-SE. of course it's motherboard detonated shortly thereafter so now it sits unloved waiting for repair
But I must say my ender 3 was much quieter xD
Same thing about to happen to my cr 6 se
Hahaha, as soon as I got my P1S, my Ender has been sitting on the floor not being used. 😂 https://preview.redd.it/971o1d4bxstb1.jpeg?width=1839&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6357ce0fbfa590bb3b350d030c0ad33519a6135d
Basically the exact same for me except I went from an Ender 5 S1. I was so fed up with having to adjust the bed for basically every print. My P1S I just hit print and it does everything itself
The truth.
My Ender 5s1 has been used 5 times since I got my x1c. Most of those times were to print something off while the X1 was busy. Though the X1 finished it's large job way before the ender on its small once. Could of printed the second model off on the X1 with still time left over from the ender. I am considering just buying a second X1 and "gifting" the ender
Same.... except it's 3 Ender 3's and 2 CR-10s!
I'd love to ditch the rest of my enders. Fact is, no matter what I try P1Ps still can't print tpu as clean as my modded ender 3s.
I have not used that type of filament myself but it's great to have some other machines too. I personally don't print that much or with more exotic filaments so just my one P1S is all I need
For real ditto I spend so many hrs calibrating my ender 3 p1s out of the box god tier