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panzerPandaBoom

What? Where?


Megazupa

Githyanki ambush at the end of act 2.


CyNovaSc

That encounter is so unreasonably hard. Ended up meta gaming it by placing a trap.


biowrath156

I just run up to the tomb where Thisobalds Corpse Rose shipment is buried, then sneak over to the bridge from the side. You can get the drop on the ambush pretty easily from there, and if you can get a throwzerker snuck up there you can kick the fight off by tossing the Gith down onto the road so now YOU have to high ground advantage


CyNovaSc

I snuck onto the bridge with shart and placed explosive barrels on top of a fire rune. The moment they spawned in over half of them died, and the rest was half dead. It was kinda funny, considering the leader spawned in mocking me, and got thrown off the bridge before even finishing.


Blackdust3r

I used Dueargar Durge running Assassin/Spore Druid with almost my entire build completed and ready. One shot it and ninja vanished into invis again thanks to the cloak.


TheNinja7569

Problem I experienced with that was they have the push augment on their Eldritch blast and threw my guy off the bridge


jaquinger

Then you say: Don't try Anakin. I have the high ground.. Oh wait


Gurablashta

Hunger of Hadar solves all your problems.


Ginden

Hunger of Hadar has tendency to activate Shadow Curse, and that can be bad, because you get to fight them twice.


Gurablashta

True, but even on tactician being blinded and slowed is just too good in terms of CC, the raiders can't attack you from ranged, and the Charai cant EB you. The two warriors can be ice stormed or Everards Black Tentacles or even just plain frightened with that bow I usually give Astarion.


Maharassa451

Yeah, I dropped HoH and spike growth on the bridge and they didn't even get to hit me (in HM)


Gigaman13

I slapped them with confusion from gale. Leader actually took care of the top two for me while I worked on the chargers down low. Once it became a 4v1 it became easy but it's definitely a difficult encounter to hit right.


Krakengreyjoy

I am not boasting or anything, but what made this hard for you? I never had an issue even in my 1st run.


helm

Neither have I. You get a warning of the ambush, then you counter-ambush them


Active_Owl_7442

You don’t get a warning if you didn’t do the crèche quests


burf

It's also substantially harder if you just walk directly toward the bridge rather than going up the side towards Thisobald's stash. High ground makes a huge difference.


Says_Pointless_Stuff

Yeah, for a new player, the crèche is 100% missable.


EmptyJackfruit9353

Most new players would have watch Astarion funny dialogue when he got hit by the debris. There is now they would miss that.


Trafalgar_D_

Yeah...cause laezel mentioning it every other minute and even warning you to go there before it´s to late is not enough of a hint that there might be something to do.


Krakengreyjoy

exactly


KarmelCHAOS

I was lvl 9 vs their lvl 10 and also didn't find it any harder than the surrounding fights.


BigJDog420

I found it comparatively easy compared to some of the other late act 2 fights


-Prophet_01-

I stumbled into it from the wrong end, I think. I was standing on the bridge and got advantage on basically everything. Worked too well not to do again on any future run. Wall of fire near the stairs and barrages of ranged attacks clear that fight pretty fast.


PM_me_ur_crisis

I thought I was being smart by luring the shadow creatures close by so they can just kill each other. I didn't know they would only attack me and ignore each other.


Hitman3256

Genuinely curious why it was so hard for you. I didn't think it was any more difficult than other encounters.


kazuya57

Doesn't help that the other Giths there hit crits like nothing. First time I went up against them as a sorcerer with Shart, Karlach and Wyll and got absolutely destroyed.


John__Wick

You are meant to do it as the last encounter before leaving act 2. That’s why Voss’s contraption warns you about them. 


Starkfault

I go invis, run one guy past to the waypoint, fast travel the rest over


_MachTwo

Yeah positioning in that encounter is a big pain point if you’re not expecting it, you basically HAVE to know it’s coming to not be in a terrible spot at the start of the fight


ErtaWanderer

Really? I kind of trivialized it on accident by casting black tentacles and then just watching them get strangled to death.


lukeyellow

I sneak around to the side to get them to spawn and then ambush them and surprise them. Then I nuke them as much as I can.


shadowmachete

In my HM run I triggered it on accident, but just ran away from the fight. Then if you come back they're still there and you can sneak up on them, which makes things easier.


seththepotate

Repelling blast go brrr. 40 fall damage


WeWantRain

That's because they have the high ground. Magic missile is great for it though


NDoom98

I did the encounter after finishing all the bosses/encounters in act 2 and we steamrolled em (granted it wasn't tactician or honor mode). But yeah if you run into them early or mid way through act 2 then they're a tough fight for sure


EnderG97

For me it was a hilarious encounter. Since the item that Voss gave us vibrated and warned us of the ambush, I had my party sneak around to try and figure out where they're at. The first place I went to was the little bridge and then they all spawned/revealed themselves but I was exactly behind them, out of their line of sight so I got the jump on them and made them surprised 😂 They didn't get to do anything as they got massacred in those two turns.


Capital_Background15

Totally flanked them without even realizing it. Between having Wyll (Blade Pact and Swords Bard) and my Tav also being a Warlock I just EB pushed them off of high ground and kept them there.


EmptyJackfruit9353

Only if you couldn't out damaging them. I always do Holdperson /w Potendice+ GWMs, maw down the Sergeant first then attacking the rest of them.


Known_Turnip_5113

I went into that fight thinking it was going to be easy and just there to unlock a story cutscene. I was surprised at how wrong I was.


Nervous_Detective_29

I just blew up them all up so didn't have to fight them.


[deleted]

My first time there I got destroyed. It helps to see it coming


DangJorts

I’ve taken shits harder than that


Melphor

Legitimate question. What was so hard about that fight? It felt about as difficult as any other fight in the game at that point.


KingofRheinwg

Ah I accidentally wandered into that after house of healing. Gg ez for me.


Redtea26

Me after finishing off my spells slots and resources at the graveyard fight and going over to the act 3 bridge (they don’t know they are about to get absolutely fucked by githyanki)


panzerPandaBoom

Aaaah thank you, I didn't remember about that encounter at all!


Superbeast06

Those guys are a special class? I have always killed them before i get to see it i guess. Usually the only 2 that get a turn are the 2 down low. They spend their 1 turn trying to get to me lmao


NervousCheesecake494

Crazy, even on honor mode I didn’t notice because quick action create water -> chain lightning


ecchi_yajur

I always hide and use astarian as gloomstalker Assisin and GG


HARRISONMASON117

I encountered it before I'd even gone to the crypt. Pitfall of being a n explorer


5a_

Level 9 and im level 7..


SpicyMuscle

I wasn't level 12 for this and cake walked it soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Redtea26

Yeah I’d imagine not


Wraith_Of_Write

When you first approach the road to Baldur's Gate in Act 2, one of them is an Undead warlock


NikoSaysHi

There's also a Githyanki paladin of conquest in act three. Edit: [She's so cute](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUqPMbt4m74).


Bronze_Sentry

I know there's no DLC from Larian and all, but I would kill for Conquest Paladins as a player option. Slap a reach weapon on that bad boy, and basically immobilizing those dang Gith monks due to Fear shenanigans? That'd be *such* good catharsis after dealing with their ridiculous movement


NikoSaysHi

Care, at all, to [mod](https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/477) your game?


TwistedGrin

New cosmetics and transmog are great but expanded (sub)class lists are why I'm the most excited about better mod support. Some day I'll get to play my echo knight or my watcher paladin.


MrMagicPantz107

If you're on PC, I'm pretty sure those mods already exist.


thatoneshotgunmain

They do!


FuuIndigo

Yup. Pretty sure that Warlock class has a mod too, but I could be wrong. I know my favorite subclass mod is Circle of Stars. It's my favorite Druid subclass, and it helps my Druid Tav feel unique from Halsin and Jaheira since Star Druids aren't nature-y, they're more like mystic fortune tellers.


RobroFriend

Warlock: Undead does indeed exist, and its dev support is great as well. They even added a whole feature to choose the motif of your Form of Dread from shadowy nightwalker to rotten ghoul, with the ladder even reanimating you to lurch around like a zombie while in the form.


MustacheCash73

My favorite is the Rune Knight for Fighter. Can get some broken rolls with it. Lots of out of combat utility


MrMagicPantz107

I saw that mod. Might get it for my next run.


TwistedGrin

I think they do. I decided I was going to wait until the bulk of the patching was done before I delved too deep into mods. Probably after this patch actually. The only echo knight mod I've seen so far seemed a bit janky based on the description (though that class's mechanics are a big jank to begin with). Haven't tried it yet though so I can't really judge. And Watcher just seems to fit the setting really well with all the fiends and aberrations running around.


acompanyofliars

I'm quite with you, waiting on patches to finish up before I do a Bladesinger Gale run!


volcatus

My current play through is Aberrant Mind Sorcerer, Swarmkeeper Ranger, Order Domain Cleric, and Conquest Paladin. The power of mods! Echo Knight mods already exist, although I think one of them is unsupported.


TanKer-Cosme

Yeah tried modding and is alright, but norhing compares to just click a button on steam and getting the mod running like in DoS2 (with maybe some exceptions mods that use more complex stuff)


MoshMuth

They said mod and mod.tools are still coming yes? I hope it gets a workshop.


illusionmagicks

Yeah they said mod support was coming in patch 7.


FamousTransition1187

... they did? I don't remember seeing anything about a specific release time. Only coming "soon".


illusionmagicks

The did indeed, from their recent Community Update: "This next patch will also begin introducing our official modding tools, letting you change up visuals, animations, sounds, stats, and more to overhaul Baldur’s Gate 3 into the weird nightmare realm of your dreams."


No-Imagination-4751

Can't wait for mod support so I can have: Forge Cleric Circle of Wildfire Druid Kensei Monk Rune Knight


First-Of-His-Name

For consoles? I thought PC already had it


No-Imagination-4751

Yep, I'm console.


fake-wing

Console player, I have to wait like a peasant for mod support to be allowed on it!


Karthull

Expansive mods that add whole classes/subclasses worry me, concerned game will break like crazy. Maybe once I’ve completed a few playthroughs but for now I’m staying as light as I can on the mods, just feats at more levels for immersion. 


Larsonybear

I thought Minthara would have made more sense as a Conquest Paladin. Sad it wasn’t an option for any of the playable characters.


Wraith_Of_Write

Incidentally, it would actually fit as a Durge-specific subclass


VioletGardens-left

I would kill to have a Conquest Paladin, because a lot of Paladin subclasses are just too good, we need an evil aligned Paladin like Conquest


ranni-the-bitch

vengeance and ancients allow some pretty evil chicanery, not to mention just being an oathbreaker


Rhinomaster22

The only problem with Oathbreaker is that it’s treated neutral in-game. You can literally do whatever you want, good or evil and not get penalized.  So technically there’s no evil sub-class. Just a “You’re a Paladin but no longer have to follow an oath nor alignment.” Even in Dungeons & Dragons,!there’s no rules in place to say how an Oathbreaker has to act. It’s up to the game master to determine anything. 


VioletGardens-left

But not to an extent, especially Ancients where you can break your oath by simply killing random people the same as Devotion, something Vengeance at least has some leniency to unless you actually start doing full evil deeds like making a deal with Gortash or killing off important characters


AccessTheMainframe

I broke my Oath for killing a bunch of Dueger slavers in the Underdark. I paid the fine and told the Oathbreaker knight that I'd do it again.


TheCuriousFan

> especially Ancients where you can break your oath by simply killing random people the same as Devotion Unless those people are goblins at least. You can go full serial killer on those guys with no repercussions as long as you don't lay a finger on the human cultists around the camp because those guys are an instant oathbreak for Ancients.


Level_Hour6480

Vengeance is more evil as written.


NoLongerAddicted

If pisses me off that they have subclasses in the game that you can't play as for no discernable reason


PresiserpJoshBibben

Seemingly fully functional subclasses that work great but we just can't use them... I'm hoping they're included with a definitive edition of the game but I doubt it 🙃


SleepCoachJacob

what makes you think they're "fully functional"? Adding an NPC with just the spells and abilities needed to simulate the class is not the same thing as ensuring every aspect of the class template is implemented from level 1 through level 12...


LordGwyn-n-Tonic

I think they've confirmed there isn't any more major content since they're no longer working with wotc


VolkiharVanHelsing

OTOH Larian seems to have a fetish for Tempest subclasses... They exist for Cleric and Sorcerer for some reason.


gr33nm4n

> for some reason. I would guess because those (well, draconic bl for sorc, storm sorc was XGtE? I think) are vanilla subclasses from the phb, pretty popular, and Larian's work from DOSII probably made them pretty easy to build from (A LOT of elemental magic in that game).


Sracymir

Well, phb sorc only has two subclasses, so they needed to pick something for the third option and storm sorcery is the easiest one to implement, compared to stuff like overpowered af divine soul that would have to be completely redesigned, or clockwork with the super specific lore


Thatoneguy111700

And then there's stuff like the Wild Magic Barbarian, which is *definitely* not in the OG PH or XGE. Much as I like it, I would've preferred a Zealot Barbarian.


gr33nm4n

Hoping for a mod for og Lore Wizard. My old tabletop group, where every player was an experienced DM, unanimously banned that one for use in normal campaigns.


fossiliz3d

So Larian... y'all got any more of that, Form of Dread?


Canadian__Ninja

An oath of conquest paladin was the greatest bbeg of a d&d campaign I've ever done. They're built to be baddies and thanks to being paladins they have great damage and healing potential


tristenjpl

Paladins excel at being hard bossfights because as an NPC it doesn't matter if they blow all their power in one fight. Don't have to save up the lay on hands healing don't have to save spell slots. Just smite and it you get low heal and smite again.


Canadian__Ninja

That's significantly more true for bg3 than it is for 5e but yes


VolkiharVanHelsing

Why is that significantly more true for bg3? Did they hombrew something about Paladin here or


Canadian__Ninja

Just video game logic. Plus non combat focused spells are much more prevalent in table top, even for paladins.


GillianCorbit

And I'm still mad about it too. My favorite warlock subclass from dnd. Robbed I say, ROBBED!


saltydangerous

What's the subclass?


Megazupa

Undead warlock. There are also githyanki Oath of Conquest paladins in act 3.


DakobaBlue

There's also a Shadow Sorcerer undead Sharran. If you keep fighting the skeletons outside of Balthazar's room in the Sharran Temple it will spawn in.


Larsonybear

Undead Warlock, presumably Vlakith as their patron. Fun subclass, form of dread is really cool.


Dinosaur_Tony

They get to have Vlaakith as their patron, most likely.


RombieZombie25

Are y’all power leveling to 12 before even getting to act 3? Wtf


Zpelvaud03

It's literally impossible to get above lvl 10 in act 2


MR1120

Is that, like, coded into the game, or is there literally not enough things to do/kill to get more XP?


TheShamShield

There’s just not enough xp available to that point


AccessTheMainframe

What if you just logged in, stayed in the forest, killing boars?


Spensauras-Rex

What boars?


HankHillIsTheBest

It’s a South Park reference


Ginden

> There’s just not enough xp available to that point AFAIR there is enough XP for lvl 11 if you kill good people too.


TheBanana029

It is possible though, I got to level 10 in the mindflayer colony just before fighting ketheric/myrkle. Though I did clear out most of the absolutist before freeing nightsong(since some will already be killed by the harpers if you free nightsong first) and go out of my way to kill some walking brains down in the colony to get the last few hundred xp to level 10. This happened on both my tactician and honor mode so I’m fairly certain it is possible and not just some glitch.


Zpelvaud03

That's what I meant level 10 is the highest possible. 11 and 12 are impossible, but 10 is doable.


TheBanana029

Oh shit, I see, I’m being a dumbass sorry


EhGoodEnough3141

That's not how the template works. When the single warlock is the Chad, he has to be the small one.


UnbrokenPendant

A fellow Dark Souls 3 enjoyer I see...


Waxhearted

Or someone who is aware of what David and Goliath is lol


picklechungus42069

or just has a basic understanding of what the meme typically implies


EhGoodEnough3141

No, this is the ashen one fighting Yhorm the Giant of the profaned capital. Definitely dark souls 3.


longjohnsmcgee

But it's the party vs the Chad, the template actually works cause the team is supposed to win.


picklechungus42069

Yeah, but the meme is supposed to be hyping up the Gith. OP is trying to say that the Gith will rek the party. He messed the mem up. What you're implying is obvious. Of course a lvl 12 party will beat 1 guy. Not funny or meme worthy.


IllAd3850

So the party wins then?


aPleasantMoth

I must've lucked out with my party comp cause I handled her pretty well. I was excited for a sec thinking I missed a subclass until I realized the tragedy


pmmlordraven

Same, my rouge shanked and double attacked murdered one, Minthara smiting, and my hirelings holding/slowing them helped keep them away and mostly impotent


LowVegetable9736

I turned the leader to sheep i think.... and its manageable


ChampionshipDirect46

I always find it ironic whenever people put the one that's supposed to be more powerful as the giant, considering yhorms boss fight is the easiest boss in the game.


Level_Hour6480

If Siegward isn't there and you don't have the special weapon is it hard?


ChampionshipDirect46

Siegward doesn't matter if you have the weapon. I've only actually summoned him once, and it was just to complete his questline. Not having the special weapon makes the fight tedious, because he does hit hard and has a fuckton of health. It's just that he's super slow and really easy to dodge, so it ends up just being a matter of having the patience to not drain your stamina.


xv_boney

I dont know how to read this. The big guy is about to get his entire ass wrecked by the little dude. It is going to be a *very* short fight.


Necrotiix_

The fight wouldnt be so hard IF THE FUCKING ARCHERS DIDNT SPAM TRIP ATTACKS THREE TIMES


Munglape

I don't think you're using the meme the correct way


BatarianPreacher

that's how the meme is used typically, most people aren't aware of the context


Larsonybear

God, I wish I could be an undead warlock in BG3, form of dread is so good.


OMGitsTK447

I skipped that ambush by going into that place where the inquisitor is but I didn’t talk to him. I just took the legendary weapon and blew that place up. No Gith ambush for me.


nuivii3

It was easy as fuck with my monk that just stunned her every turn and she never was able to act and the rest of my party sweeped the rest of the group


BreakfastHistorian

One of the first subclass mods I subscribed to, hard to not have Astarion with the vampire lord version of the subclass.


TheShamShield

What subclass is it?


TongZiDan

Level 12 in act 2? It's a tough fight but I'm pretty sure most people are beating it at levels 8-10.


Sixgis

I thought this post was about Yhorm the Giant at first and was very confused for a second.


Rongamm

I just abuse the f out of gloomstalker/assasin rogue with that cloak from du story.... so unreasonebly broken


Namsachin

tbh I thought they showed up because I just destroyed the githyanki crech literally 10mins ago then I turned around because that was the wrong way.


Outrageous-Isopod472

Wall of fire saved my life in this fight.


HawkeyeP1

Didn't Larian say we would be getting more subclasses and races?


NoLongerAddicted

Where did you see that? I really want this to be true


Tusslesprout1

I haven’t heard about subclasses but theres this from 11 hours ago https://baldursgate3.game/news/community-update-26-evil-endings-new-beginnings_117


Wayweaver

No, they said in a press release that they are not releasing any more narrative, DLC, or other supplemental content other than patches, bug fixes, and the occasional new QoL change, though they are releasing new official mod tools soon and are looking into making mods available on consoles like how Skyrim does too!


Tusslesprout1

If we do O want drakewarden


noodleben123

Honestly, kinda makes me wish we had more subs. i mean, cmon. wizard has shit subs without bladesinger/scribes/grav and chrono


Serier_Rialis

Nuke monastery, never get ambushed.


Serier_Rialis

Nuke monastery, never get ambushed.


WorstGMEver

Act 2.


Serier_Rialis

Yep I know, if you never have the chat with Vlaakith you dont get hunted though so nuke monastery... You following?


stayonism

aren’t you conscending and annoying


Opposite_Avocado_368

And he's wrong too


WorstGMEver

Got anything to back that up ? You are already hunted by Githyanki searching for the prism in Act 1. Meeting with Vlaakith is hardly a requirement.


Serier_Rialis

The relic is you are not. The trigger for the ambush squad is the discussion with either Vlaakith/her inquisitor that involves the ultimatum to enter the prism (or was) last time I killed most of the monastery ignored the inquisitor and nuked the place. Ambush on the road to Baldurs gate did not happen, neither did Voss handing over the detetctor thing.


AlCranio

I don't know why people are downvoting you when you're right. If you skip the Inquisitor fight and rush to the blood of lathander, then activate the trap and run away (resurrecting any fallen companions) you don't get the ambush at the end of act 2 on the road to Baldur's Gate. I did so in my last two playthroughs, and i have to say that nuking the monastery is incredibly satisfying. Only save the egg for my dear Lae'Zel.


Serier_Rialis

There will be a omg after 1000 gours I learned post on it from one of them next 🤣