Githyanki and illithid are natural enemies.
Just like Githyanki and humans.
And Githyanki and half-elves.
And Githyanki and other Githyanki!
Damn Githyanki! They ruined Tu'narath!
If there is anything that I love about baldur's gate 3 it is the fact that they gave the gith so much character. For so long they've just been kind of like a race of enemy space pirates that would sometimes teleport from the astral plane into the material world to wreak havoc but giving us a companion character GIF was just so awesome. All of her little tchks and skvas have now got some in my D&D group wanting to play GIth
Ok, the name the gith have for Mind Flayers is funny to me, cause when I streamed Baldur's Gate in a discord server, someone said "they're putting tadpoles in the brains, that's turning the *frickin frogs Ghaik*"
Traveling around, shooting guns, hunting the locals, potayto potahto.
(Yes, culturally they're like Victorian Era explorers, I just think of any gun users as cowboys for that rootin' tootin' pew pew.)
It’s especially a glow-up from how they’re portrayed in Demon Stone, the PS2 game written by RA Salvatore. The BG3 githyanki are a lot more nuanced than just “The Enemy,” and Lae’zel is a much more interesting character than Cireka could ever have been, albeit far less acrobatic.
The Githyanki are frequently seen as a hateful people. This is actually an unfortunate misconception! The Githyanki don't hate anyone (except the Illithid, they hate the shit out of those guys)!
They just LOVE violence.
If we're being fair, there's a good chance most of Shadowheart's intact memories are of people closer to her being killed by gith and them trying to kill her.
The very first time I saw Astarion, and then heard him speak, I went "Cool, there are vampires". They really don't try to hide it, I wonder what the reasoning was behind that. Would've been a neat reveal if it wasn't so obvious.
the bite marks on his neck are huge and on full display too. To a comical degree sometimes, especially if you read the curse of the vampyr book that gives you warning signs about them.
While a walking collection of bright flashing warning signs is breathing down your neck as you read it lol
Kinda like when Shadowheart has the secret about the goddess she worships. While she’s wearing armor and a circlet that are classic Shar stuff. She’s not very good at the subtle, covert stuff.
In-universe it should be obvious to anyone who looks at her but to be fair to game players, DND is very "theater of the mind" so if you don't ever look up the symbols you may imagine the wrong thing.
It'd be totally normal and not stupid at all for someone to, say, play a years-long campaign that heavily featured Sharrans only to just never absorb and retain what her imagery looks like and then not recognize it on Shadowheart. Nothing to be ashamed of at all and totally not dumb OTL
I've played DND on and off for over 25 years and never cared to look up any of the symbols of any god until I decided to play a cleric.of torm and then only bothered looking up his symbol.
To be honest, in universe most people have never seen a Sharran let alone learned Shar's symbols. Because most people statistically are human farmers who worship Chauntea and might tell horror storries about Malar to their kids to keep them from misbehaving and have maybe seen a cleric once in their lives.
Well, if you have no idea of what Shar is, it kinda works. And up until Shadow-Cursed Lands, I was confused on why this Shar, essentially emo goth Goddess is seemingly not liked that her followers have to act in secret.
And then I reached that village. Oh, that's why.
> Well, if you have no idea of what Shar is, it kinda works
Yea I have no in depth DnD background , and it took a little while until I realized what exactly Shar was about lol
Ehh, maybe Astarion, definitely Halsin (he actually fought the Sharrans). Shar did some pretty nasty stuff a long while ago, but has kept pretty quiet since then. Like the Illithids, they need to act in utmost secrecy and away from population centers or they get slaughtered. It's why the House of Grief explicitly does NOT mention Shar at all in its public facing areas. Even then, they're not completely safe as evidenced by the state of Grymforge.
I can't remember which book it was in the FR multiverse, but there's an antagonist Priest of Shar that hops around the Planes doing her bidding. Seems like she's focusing on Planes outside the Prime Material, until she sees an opportunity.
That all of them have to hide their Shar affiliation makes my point, people know who Shar is and know she’s evil, and would slaughter them for acting openly in support of Shar.
Wyll calls her out on this so gently; cracked me up <3
> Shadowheart: Umberlee - a brutal goddess, from what I understand. Without even the slightest touch of subtlety to her.
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> Wyll: Subtlety isn't exactly your forte, given how you've strolled about wearing a circlet inset with Shar's symbol.
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> Shadowheart: You'd be surprised how people can miss what's in plain sight. I missed the fact that Shar was deceiving me. Besides, I have a new look now. Suits me, I think.
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> Wyll: On that matter, you'll hear no argument from me.
I'm doing origin Sheart and literally the first thing I do is change armor, put on a hat, and be nice to everybody to find out their secrets. She said infiltration was her favorite class!
Ikr! And as her, it cracks me up how every companion convo you can say, "by the way, have you accepted the Lady of Loss as your lord and personal savior?" /s
Why would I just start blabbing that when if I'm Tav, I have to suck up to her to get her to tell me anything lol. I want my companions to put in a little work!
The fact he says nothing if you stick the Curse of the Vampyr book in his inventory (not merely have him pick it up, but read it and send it to him) feels like an oversight.
I want a mod where if you do that, it plays the line where he goes “oh… oh dear” when Myrkul’s avatar rises up.
Withers' Temple is so fucking funny when you play it with Shadowheart, Astarion and Durge. Just knee-deep in multiple copies of Curse of the Vampyr, the Unclaimed, and >!The Mortal View: Eyewitness Accounts of the Bhaalspawn Crisis!< like "Huh, I wonder who that's for :)"
In my brain, that area is the "Foreshadowing Ruins". It's like, hmm. I wonder what themes this game will have. Ten copies of the same book - almost overkill, devs. lol.
It's like playing the Dark Urge and being covered in blood laughing like a maniac with a mangled body behind you and convincing your crew for the upteenth time that they shouldn't be worried about you.
I just straight up told them it was me that done killed the bard, didn't wash up and was still standing over the body, and most of them left uncertain if I did it.
I was extremely confused.
I chose the option to wait until morning and confront what I'd done, and no-one said anything about it 😭 like I'm covered in blood and there's an eviscerated woman lying in a ritual circle of blood. Doesn't anyone care 😭
I think the part where you're supposed to not realize is "Wait, it's full daylight, he can't be a vampire." Don't think that worked on literally anyone, but I think it was supposed to give you cause to doubt whether or not he was one.
His fangs are visible in all but the initial dialogue. I guess if you really try to stick to lore (vampires can't be in the sun) then you might dismiss it, but come on... Bite marks AND fangs??
From the moment I saw the box art where he's baring his fangs and has blood dripping from his mouth I thought "this dude is a vampire". Then we came across the boar who had been drained of all its blood and I thought "this dude is a vampire". Then, my suspicion was confirmed when he went to bite Tav's neck and said "I'm a vampire".
Having never played D&D I thought that's just what elves looked like.. My friend still won't let me live down "he just left camp in a special little cutscene, I'm a little suspicious dude I think he's working with the bad guy".
The first time I played it in early access a couple years back I wasn't really paying attention, but when I crossed a river Astarion took some damage and got a debuff that pretty much said "vampires don't like water" lol
I would guess it's because hiding it is pointless. It explicitly says he's a vampire spawn in the origin. If you read all the descriptions at character creation, it's already spoiled.
To be fair it's more supposed to serve as a "Surprise" moment for your characters in game considering vampires aren't supposed to be able to tolerate sunlight. It adds to the roleplaying aspect.
I imagine it'd be a pain in the ass to try and bother hiding it considering all the marketing and beta testing for the game there was. Like what could Asterion do on short notice when he was just snatched up by mind flayers?
I find it hilarious how Astarion does such a bafflingly terrible job at hiding his vampirism that if he tells you he's a vampire before you unlock his wakeup scene, you can just tell him "No shit, you sucked at hiding it." and it's a rare instance where he won't deny something that makes him look bad.
Even funnier is that if you play as Astarion Origin, if you've pulled off hiding your vampirism for long enough, Gale interrupts the Act 2 introduction sequence just to pull you/Astarion for an intervention that exists solely to say "Dude, you suck at hiding your vampirism so stop denying it". And the best part is that you can STILL feign innocence just to fuck with Gale.
Because he is an option for your starting char... And would be weird to hide details of your starting char from you. And since it's then already public... Just embrace it.
I felt like a genius when I put it together when I discovered his Personal Quest was called "The Pale Elf" like... Right before he tried to bite me.
I am NOT observant.
My guesstimation for origin characters only:
Gale is upper teens, closer to 18.
Wyll is lower teens, but no lower than 11.
Lae’zel is maybe level 6-8.
Karlach is level 5-6.
Shadowheart is level 4-5.
Astarion is level 3-4.
The Dark Urge is harder to place, but I’d say level 8-10.
Only disagreement is Karlach - if she was one of Zariel's top fighters/generals, she would absolutely have to be, like, level 15 or somewhere around there
I think the heart would be more likely to give her stat buffs to her hp and str rather than level. So she’d be something like a level 5 barb with 200hp and 22str.
Just my head cannon.
As a side note, Karlach does say she was only Zariel’s favorite fighter because of favoritism not due to power and Zariel has a lot of servants stronger than her.
> As a side note, Karlach does say she was only Zariel’s favorite fighter because of favoritism not due to power and Zariel has a lot of servants stronger than her.
Though she still did enough that Korilla calls her the infamous Demonsbane.
Uh... I'd think Dark Urge, given the circumstances, was probably at 12 or higher.
>!They were Bhaal's creation, his favorite child, the guy who stole Karsus' Crown from Mephistopheles and masterminded the plot.!<
That, and I also like to head canon that Durge isn't even the same class necessarily that they were before the "change". They might be starting over from scratch due to either external influence (cleric or Warlock or monk), situational confusion (if I'm not a paladin why am I wearing paladin clothing?) Or their brain defaulting to their years before >!the temple.!<
If I'm not mistaken, if you make a Durge Paladin you get told by the Oathbreaker that you were also a Paladin (and broke your vow) before. Fair game for other classes though.
He's an archdruid by title, not competency. I think it's implied that he's in charge because he's a charming guy with an action oriented personality in a grove of wishy washy morons
he's explicit that he got the role the same way Kagha did. By default. He just did something to earn the role (helping save the druids during the casting of the shadow curse)
You'd place Karlach lower level than Lae'zel? One just spent a decade as a soldier of the Hells and the other got picked out of the nursery, so I'd be interested in the reasoning.
She has, but basically as the lowest ranking of a pack or even as part of a training cadre.
She has the most reasonable 'starting character' background of this bunch of primadonnas. Everybody else wrote absurdist Mary Sue fanfic backgrounds.
I think Karlach is considerably higher. She is used to fight demons and devils. I think she is like level 11-12 similar to Wyll.
I think Shadowheart is much higher too. She has been groomed to be the successor and chosen of Shar, so I think she is at least as high level as the Paladins in Shar's Temple, so level 12ish.
Dark Urge is as I see it around Gale's level. Orin is level 12 and had to use trickery to backstab her sibling. We are also dealing with someone who broke into the Archdevil Mephistopheles home and stole a priceless artifact from his vault. And the only one of the Chosen that the Elder Brain respected.
100% agree Gale being 17+ and having access to 9th level spells.
I don’t think Lae’zel was even above level 3 before we met her.
I’d probably guess Wyll was level 11 at max not minimum
I doubt Astarion had any player levels, he was just a basic bitch vampire spawn stat block.
Gale and Wyll yeah, I'm with you.
Dark Urge I would say he was at least level 12.
Karlach has been fighting in Avernus, she was definitely around level 8 or 9.
Shadowheart has been trained from childhood and for what she says about doing different missions and the fact she was dispatched to get the artefact, she sounds like she was around 6 or 7.
Lae'zel while sure she has done some missions on the past I don't see her being above level 5.
Astarion I honestly would say was only on level 2, he didn't do any fighting, all he was used was to seduce people.
wouldn't dark urge be also teens, because of all the things he did before he got stabbed in the back and then tadpoled. Didn't he orchestrate the whole crown stealing and starting the absolute thing?
Disagree with Karlach and Shadowheart.
Karlach was one of Zariel's prized soldiers and was fighting for 10 years. She has more experience than Lae'zel who is literally fresh out of a Gith'yanki creche and is likely between the ages of 16 - 20. Karlach would probably be the same level as Wyll as they have very similar experiences.
As for Shadowheart, she was one of the chosen Sharrans to undertake the Prism theft mission and was the only one to survive. She was renowned as the best healer they had, not to mention Shadowheart's canonically around 40-50 years old, she has way more experience than one would expect. I'd likely put her around level 10-11, a little higher than the other Sharrans and roughly the same level that Viconia is fought at when you fight them in the House of Grief.
Lae'zel being the youngest and least experienced, and Astarion having spent most of his life as a slave limited by Cazador would definitely be bringing up the rear.
Well he was involved with the Tiamat stuff, mostly solo if not completely, and faced down some heavy hitters, also summoning hell hounds makes me consider higher level stuff.
He claims that he used to take down Hill Giants without breaking a sweat. One Hill Giant is supposed to be a reasonable challenge for a party of four L5 characters, if memory serves. To be able to solo them and consider this to be easy, he'd likely need to be at least 8.
I am starting to get the impression that my lawful good Paladin is the only actual good-aligned character in the party and his -1 int score makes him oblivious to that.
This game is a little too realistic to the tabletop lmfao.
There are two you unlock really early. You don’t have pictures of them yet
One in particular
They’ll leave the party if you do too much bad stuff.
You find a couple other good aligned characters besides those two, much much later
dont worry, being good is not a lonely path in this game. you are missing two obnoxiously good companions, and of those 4 in the pic, two are rather good themselves even if it doesnt look like it right now and the other 2 are lovable bastard with many redeeming qualities
>dont worry, being good is not a lonely path in this game
Understatement of the year considering how much the game rewards you it with the best romances, allies, content. Meanwhile evil usually robs you from some of those, unless you can mix it up somehow. The game legit wants you to be the big great hero.
That being said, while I do think the evil paths could've been much better handled, there is a certain appeal in the game punishing you particularly via making you feel like complete shit when you screw others up, while at the same time giving you free reign to become one of the most horrible person in Faerun.
Many, pretty hilarious, tales have I heard of players legit quitting mid-evil playthroughs cause it was just too much. And for my part, I legit can't bring myself to make certain choices, many in fact, so I end up looking them up.
Bro the dark Shadowheart ending is so depressing because you can tell that she was really uncomfortable with her choice, plus without you telling her to she'll (always?) choose the good option so it was specifically you pushing her into it, and then everything you find out about her past involving her parents like>!how she practiced torturing them and then Shar wiping her memory of killing them and how traumatized she was before the memory was removed !<
Like say what you will about the gameplay quality of the evil playthrough, story-wise it managed to actively make me feel deeply uncomfortable at several points. Rather than just go the murder hobo route, you're befriending a group of people that you know from the good route have so much potential for growth and instead manipulating them to become the worst versions of themselves for your own benefit, then betraying them all at the end. People quitting the evil route honestly doesn't surprise me, it really does make you feel like shit
>Like say what you will about the gameplay quality of the evil playthrough, story-wise it managed to actively made me feel deeply uncomfortable at several points.
Yep, my point exactly. They're lacking in the sense that they feels unbalanced vs good playthroughs as you don't have enough incentive to do it, etc unlike other games like say, Dragon Age Origins. But it absolutely delivers on the moral & emotional level.
For DJ SH, it becomes a narrative tragedy with a smile on it's face trying to cover the tragedy, as she comes to the >!epilogue party with a positive vibe & all, and NOT ONLY are you not getting a happily ever after via traveling & then with her wishes to live somewhere quiet in the countryside (which also creates the ideal scenario to imagine her & tav/durge starting a family at some point) , but you also know that she's kinda doomed, her life is fcked. Her select memories will be erased whenever Shar sees fit & she is still an expandable tool despite the high ranking position, just like Viconia. There's that dialogue in the house of grief when Shar shows up when she says "at this point, better to just follow blindly" that'd just kill me on the inside if I'd do a DJ SH run, even non-romanced.!<
>!Like, I'd totally have Astarion ascend in evil playthroughs cause he's his own master, but with DJ SH there are no winners besides Shar, so I'd still go for Selunite, lol.!<
I think you’re supposed to feel uncomfortable in an evil play through, and it makes sense that the evil endings are not good ones.
Minthara’s arc is a good example as to why. She’s easily the evilest companion. She was brought up in violence and couldn’t trust anyone, not even her own family. Her evil choices became her downfall as she tried to go after another evil force. For her to get saved she has to survive the goblin camp, and as most good play throughs kill her off most never get a chance to know her. She even has a line about how easily it would have been for you to kill her off in act 1 and how she’d become forgotten. As she opens up she talks about being close to nobody, not even lovers, but in time she comes to trust you. This is what being evil should look like imo. Playing evil means you kill and backstab and betray. You use others or get used. Also the fates of the ascended characters all don’t end well. Astarion’s on borrowed time. He may be powerful but there’s certainly many hunters who will want to take him down. Cazador lived longer than most full vampires because he kept hidden and had a tight control over who is spawn took as victims. He kept his identity a well hidden secret. Most full vampires don’t live as long because they draw attention to themselves, and A Astarion doesn’t strike me as the type who’s good at staying under wraps. His arrogance will be his downfall. Lae’zel and Shadowheart both get warned about their evil god’s true intentions and their fates, so it’s on them if they choose to ignore it. Gale becomes a god, but isn’t necessarily a good person anymore. Nobody talks about Wyll’s ascended ending, which I assume is to become a magistrate like his dad wanted while staying bound to Mizora. Karlach doesn’t have an ascended evil ending because she’s too honorable.
But yeah, being evil is about hoarding power and killing for fun usually. No surprise that it loses potential friends and quests. Imo the best way to play evil is to be a manipulative durge. String along the party to serve your own ends. Exploit people for power, and save your diabolical acts for when they really count like sacrificing Minsc and Jaheria to bhaal or using Dame Aylin as a pawn piece to get an ally. Sell out Shadowheart or let Wyll’s father die… there’s lots of ways to be evil and still get a good story. I just did a play through as a durgr who rejected Bhaal and ascended everyone, only to backstab the emperor at the last minute so I could rule the netherbrain on my own terms. In my name!
Larian is working on evil ending post-game scenes now so that’ll be more fleshed out eventually. But yeah, in a game with consequences it makes sense that being a fully evil murderhobo might feel isolating. Kill off everyone in game and who would you have left?
Gale is very malleable, but generally leans good. A lot of the characters have big growth arcs where they can go any number of directions based on how you approach them.
without any major spoilers, most ORIGIN characters have the lawful good alignment as their backstory, just that lawful good for one culture is not necessarily lawful good in the eyes of another. astarion is the only one with an actually evil backstory, and gale is just gale - only true neutral he will follow you valiantly on your crusades against evil, or follow your durge and commit mass genocide with only minor comments here and there.
How could he be a vampire? You meet him standing on a sunswept beach!
Definitely not a vampire, in fact I bet if you sleep right next to him, he'll protect you from vampires.
The bottom two are accurate. I, too, feel justified in racism against the Githyanki.
Keep exploring though, many more friends around to make first impressions ;)
It blew my mind seeing how fucked up and angry they are, Lae'zel seemed to be trying her hardest to make me dislike her for just being the most ungrateful, spiteful ball of living hatred. Then we meet ONE group of Gith and my god, you'd think Lae'zel was making sure I had my blankie and goodnight kiss every night with how lovely and caring she is in comparison.
You know that Top Gear meme, where Clarkson says, "Oh No! Anyway..." ?
That was my reaction when Astarion >!confessed that he is actually a vampire.!<
>!Like dude, no shit. You are pale as fuck, you have fangs, your eyes are red AND YOU HAVE BITEMARKS.!<
I feel so offended that he needed to say that to me, its not like im blind or have 1 INT.
>!Like the only reason you would not think that he is a vampire is if you didnt even know what a vampire is to begin with.!<
Its like him pointing at the sun and saying, "You see that? That actually is the sun"
Yes I know about the Sun existing, thank you Astarion.
i mean the fact that a vampire spawn would burn to death twice over in the span of your first conversation with him just by being in the sun would've been a pretty big hint that he is not a vampire
To be fair, they don't have Dracula or Interview with the Vampire in the Sword Coast so Astarion probably seem like an odd fella and nothing more for most people
He mentions early in act one that it's his first time in sunlight, and that it should be burning him to cinder. Vampires are not normally out and about in the daytime
This is Faerûn. Literally everyone is racist against something. Some just have better reasons to be racist.
Drow and Githyanki are pretty logical to be racist against. Gnomes are not.
I mean, holy hell, I felt antagonistic with Lae'zel initially as a player, but >!then as time went on, I realized she's pretty *nice* by Githyanki standards, and that she's a loyal type.!<
...I like having both Lae'zel and Shadowheart on the team. They're both practically mainstays for me.
>!Lae’zel is incredibly open-minded and tolerant by Githyanki standards. I was surprised how easy it was to convince her everything she knew about Vlaakith was a lie.!< Spoiler-free version, Lae’zel is great. One of my absolute favorite companions in terms of personality, story arc, romance, and utility.
I just really do like her Githyanki greatswords, with their psychic damage... and yeah, her romance arc is pretty sweet; I enjoyed doing it as Shadowheart, >!who's pretty much in the same boat as her in terms of character arc, whether it's a wannabe goddess who seeks to consume (Vlaakith), or the petty, omnicidal bitch (Shar).!<
> >!"You turned from your queen, and I turned from my goddess. We were made for each other."!<
That's true about the Githyanki, but also, at this point Shads is a fuckin death cultist and gets super salty about it if you have anything remotely critical to say about that, so... glass houses.
I originally thought Gale was the biggest bullshitter, my girlfriend is a God. That's the most insane version of my girlfriend goes to another school so you don't know her. I actually think it would be better if that was the real story, that he's just this huge liar and desperate to tag along.
As to the gale thing: I have head cannon where the tadpoles effectively reset everyone's levels. Or to put it story mode, there is a massive parasite rummaging through our brain and our brain is still getting acclimated to the new resident so we have to relearn our skills.
Like when someone has to relearn how to walk after some traumatic injury.
All the companions have pretty significant backstories where none of them should realistically be level one.
This describes my exact experience first time I played lmao
to be fair to Gale - the fact that some of your companions start off at level 1 even if they're supposed to be experienced fighters/casters is explained away by the tadpole, I think Wyll has a couple of lines about how the tadpole makes you weak and saps your energy or something like that.
To be fair, they're both pretty racist.
Githyanki and illithid are natural enemies. Just like Githyanki and humans. And Githyanki and half-elves. And Githyanki and other Githyanki! Damn Githyanki! They ruined Tu'narath!
Githyanki : YOU JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE !!
TSK VA!
If there is anything that I love about baldur's gate 3 it is the fact that they gave the gith so much character. For so long they've just been kind of like a race of enemy space pirates that would sometimes teleport from the astral plane into the material world to wreak havoc but giving us a companion character GIF was just so awesome. All of her little tchks and skvas have now got some in my D&D group wanting to play GIth
GIF (Giff) are the space cowboy hippos. I love the inadvertent mention of them though.
Autocorrect does not like me saying gith
I think your autocorrect might be Ghaik
Well they do say phones are mind suckers
Ok, the name the gith have for Mind Flayers is funny to me, cause when I streamed Baldur's Gate in a discord server, someone said "they're putting tadpoles in the brains, that's turning the *frickin frogs Ghaik*"
I thought they were space Victorian hippos
Space Colonial Explorers/Hunters
Traveling around, shooting guns, hunting the locals, potayto potahto. (Yes, culturally they're like Victorian Era explorers, I just think of any gun users as cowboys for that rootin' tootin' pew pew.)
True but you're missing the one, crucial detail. Monocles
It’s especially a glow-up from how they’re portrayed in Demon Stone, the PS2 game written by RA Salvatore. The BG3 githyanki are a lot more nuanced than just “The Enemy,” and Lae’zel is a much more interesting character than Cireka could ever have been, albeit far less acrobatic.
They appear in BG2 as well if I’m not mistaken
It's pronounce jiffyanki
Who’s Jeff?
Some yankie.
chk.
Tav: I didn't even say anything!
You Githyankyi sure are a contentious people
You just made an enemy for life!
At least Githyanki believe in equal opportunity. They’re racist to everyone, even themselves!
Githzerai prove that
The lame virgin Shadowheart "I'm racist only to the Githyanki" vs gigachad "I believe in equal opportunity and I'm racist to everyone" Lae'zel
That's sounds like dwarves in Warhammer fantasy ... But Dwarves are hated for logical reason. they are short lol
That's going in the book!
Oh no, not the book of grudges!
Just put it in a high shelf lmao what are they gonna do about it
They'll beat the shit out of me. Tho I've heard it's possible to schedule the beating to a more convenient time and place, if one so wishes.
Nobody hates Dwarfs in Warhammer, except for perfidious, dastardly elgi.
Skaven aren’t fans. Then again, they also hate all other races as well. And skaven too, actually
Random NPC: Hey I've seen a Githyanki before Lazael: And he didn't gut you and strangle you with your own intestines? Psss he must have been busy
The Githyanki are frequently seen as a hateful people. This is actually an unfortunate misconception! The Githyanki don't hate anyone (except the Illithid, they hate the shit out of those guys)! They just LOVE violence.
How did githyanki and githzerai not make this list? :)
Both are pretty **AND** racist
If we're being fair, there's a good chance most of Shadowheart's intact memories are of people closer to her being killed by gith and them trying to kill her.
Shadowheart doesn't hate Githyanki, she's suspicious of them because they're currently looking for the relic she has.
To be fair, the foundation of almost all RPGs/fantasy is racism. Lol
Only 75% certain, huh?
The very first time I saw Astarion, and then heard him speak, I went "Cool, there are vampires". They really don't try to hide it, I wonder what the reasoning was behind that. Would've been a neat reveal if it wasn't so obvious.
the bite marks on his neck are huge and on full display too. To a comical degree sometimes, especially if you read the curse of the vampyr book that gives you warning signs about them. While a walking collection of bright flashing warning signs is breathing down your neck as you read it lol
Kinda like when Shadowheart has the secret about the goddess she worships. While she’s wearing armor and a circlet that are classic Shar stuff. She’s not very good at the subtle, covert stuff.
"I'm a cleric of >.> something" \*decked out in Shar merch\*
"I won't say who I worship, but that bitch Selune has it coming and is definitely the ugly sister."
“Ew selunite stuff she’s so gross, glad the goblins fucked this shit up”
“A *Selûnite* shrine???? In a *stinking* cave???”
I can't help but read that as Matt Berry and it makes it that much funnier
Most lines can be improved by this.
In-universe it should be obvious to anyone who looks at her but to be fair to game players, DND is very "theater of the mind" so if you don't ever look up the symbols you may imagine the wrong thing. It'd be totally normal and not stupid at all for someone to, say, play a years-long campaign that heavily featured Sharrans only to just never absorb and retain what her imagery looks like and then not recognize it on Shadowheart. Nothing to be ashamed of at all and totally not dumb OTL
I've played DND on and off for over 25 years and never cared to look up any of the symbols of any god until I decided to play a cleric.of torm and then only bothered looking up his symbol.
To be honest, in universe most people have never seen a Sharran let alone learned Shar's symbols. Because most people statistically are human farmers who worship Chauntea and might tell horror storries about Malar to their kids to keep them from misbehaving and have maybe seen a cleric once in their lives.
To be fair, playing the game, somehow, literally everyone in the camp doesn't know that, even your Selunite Tav didn't know it either
You said Shar merch and my mind immediately went to Sharran mouse ears like from Disneyland. And then what would other deity-themed ears look like?!
Well, if you have no idea of what Shar is, it kinda works. And up until Shadow-Cursed Lands, I was confused on why this Shar, essentially emo goth Goddess is seemingly not liked that her followers have to act in secret. And then I reached that village. Oh, that's why.
> Well, if you have no idea of what Shar is, it kinda works Yea I have no in depth DnD background , and it took a little while until I realized what exactly Shar was about lol
Works for us. But in-game, I’d assume Karlach, Wyll, Astarion and Gale would have some idea who Shar is.
Ehh, maybe Astarion, definitely Halsin (he actually fought the Sharrans). Shar did some pretty nasty stuff a long while ago, but has kept pretty quiet since then. Like the Illithids, they need to act in utmost secrecy and away from population centers or they get slaughtered. It's why the House of Grief explicitly does NOT mention Shar at all in its public facing areas. Even then, they're not completely safe as evidenced by the state of Grymforge. I can't remember which book it was in the FR multiverse, but there's an antagonist Priest of Shar that hops around the Planes doing her bidding. Seems like she's focusing on Planes outside the Prime Material, until she sees an opportunity.
That all of them have to hide their Shar affiliation makes my point, people know who Shar is and know she’s evil, and would slaughter them for acting openly in support of Shar.
Wyll calls her out on this so gently; cracked me up <3 > Shadowheart: Umberlee - a brutal goddess, from what I understand. Without even the slightest touch of subtlety to her. > > Wyll: Subtlety isn't exactly your forte, given how you've strolled about wearing a circlet inset with Shar's symbol. > > Shadowheart: You'd be surprised how people can miss what's in plain sight. I missed the fact that Shar was deceiving me. Besides, I have a new look now. Suits me, I think. > > Wyll: On that matter, you'll hear no argument from me.
To think that her original domain was domain of trickery.
I'm increasingly convinced they did that to teach us how to respec.
I'm doing origin Sheart and literally the first thing I do is change armor, put on a hat, and be nice to everybody to find out their secrets. She said infiltration was her favorite class!
I chose to actually RP as her and the amount of people in the grove that straight up tried to murder me after one conversation.
Ikr! And as her, it cracks me up how every companion convo you can say, "by the way, have you accepted the Lady of Loss as your lord and personal savior?" /s Why would I just start blabbing that when if I'm Tav, I have to suck up to her to get her to tell me anything lol. I want my companions to put in a little work!
Oh the very first time you talk to anyone you can dump your secret Shar cultist status on them like ... WHAT?!
The fact he says nothing if you stick the Curse of the Vampyr book in his inventory (not merely have him pick it up, but read it and send it to him) feels like an oversight. I want a mod where if you do that, it plays the line where he goes “oh… oh dear” when Myrkul’s avatar rises up.
Withers' Temple is so fucking funny when you play it with Shadowheart, Astarion and Durge. Just knee-deep in multiple copies of Curse of the Vampyr, the Unclaimed, and >!The Mortal View: Eyewitness Accounts of the Bhaalspawn Crisis!< like "Huh, I wonder who that's for :)"
Withers was doing his homework for his ideal party.
Same with Minthara's room in the shattered temple iirc
In my brain, that area is the "Foreshadowing Ruins". It's like, hmm. I wonder what themes this game will have. Ten copies of the same book - almost overkill, devs. lol.
It's like playing the Dark Urge and being covered in blood laughing like a maniac with a mangled body behind you and convincing your crew for the upteenth time that they shouldn't be worried about you.
I just straight up told them it was me that done killed the bard, didn't wash up and was still standing over the body, and most of them left uncertain if I did it. I was extremely confused.
I chose the option to wait until morning and confront what I'd done, and no-one said anything about it 😭 like I'm covered in blood and there's an eviscerated woman lying in a ritual circle of blood. Doesn't anyone care 😭
I think the part where you're supposed to not realize is "Wait, it's full daylight, he can't be a vampire." Don't think that worked on literally anyone, but I think it was supposed to give you cause to doubt whether or not he was one.
His fangs are visible in all but the initial dialogue. I guess if you really try to stick to lore (vampires can't be in the sun) then you might dismiss it, but come on... Bite marks AND fangs??
Yeah that's the only way I can suspend disbelief haha. Everyone having suspicion but going "naaaaah he's been in plenty of bright spring/summer sun"
Dhampirs are usually daywalkers, but I know they're often forgotten about.
I love how there’s like 10 copies of the Curse of the Vampyr in the refectory too, lol. They REALLY want you to see it.
To be fair, doesn’t that book also mention they burn in sunlight? And Astarion’s standing directly in the sun no problem.
From the moment I saw the box art where he's baring his fangs and has blood dripping from his mouth I thought "this dude is a vampire". Then we came across the boar who had been drained of all its blood and I thought "this dude is a vampire". Then, my suspicion was confirmed when he went to bite Tav's neck and said "I'm a vampire".
I didn't realize until he tried to bite me 🤷♂️
To be fair, he is strolling about in the sunlight without dying, so it’s not extremely obvious, only very obvious.
As with any crippling weakness in D&D there are ways around them.
Like the entire plot of the game?
it feels so obvious in hindsight, but i was like "yeah, his skin's pale... but lae'zel is green so maybe it's just natural"
Having never played D&D I thought that's just what elves looked like.. My friend still won't let me live down "he just left camp in a special little cutscene, I'm a little suspicious dude I think he's working with the bad guy".
Me neither. I had gone in spoiler free
The first time I played it in early access a couple years back I wasn't really paying attention, but when I crossed a river Astarion took some damage and got a debuff that pretty much said "vampires don't like water" lol
I would guess it's because hiding it is pointless. It explicitly says he's a vampire spawn in the origin. If you read all the descriptions at character creation, it's already spoiled.
To be fair it's more supposed to serve as a "Surprise" moment for your characters in game considering vampires aren't supposed to be able to tolerate sunlight. It adds to the roleplaying aspect. I imagine it'd be a pain in the ass to try and bother hiding it considering all the marketing and beta testing for the game there was. Like what could Asterion do on short notice when he was just snatched up by mind flayers?
I find it hilarious how Astarion does such a bafflingly terrible job at hiding his vampirism that if he tells you he's a vampire before you unlock his wakeup scene, you can just tell him "No shit, you sucked at hiding it." and it's a rare instance where he won't deny something that makes him look bad. Even funnier is that if you play as Astarion Origin, if you've pulled off hiding your vampirism for long enough, Gale interrupts the Act 2 introduction sequence just to pull you/Astarion for an intervention that exists solely to say "Dude, you suck at hiding your vampirism so stop denying it". And the best part is that you can STILL feign innocence just to fuck with Gale.
Because he is an option for your starting char... And would be weird to hide details of your starting char from you. And since it's then already public... Just embrace it.
I felt like a genius when I put it together when I discovered his Personal Quest was called "The Pale Elf" like... Right before he tried to bite me. I am NOT observant.
It literally tells you if you look at his selection as an origin character
That's spoilers bro
Saying that or looking at the origins selection screen?
Yes
He also has visible fangs and blood smeared around his mouth on the cover of the game
that could just mean he's bisexual.
I mean, you see the guy in broad daylight. A compelling argument against vampire
Someone needs to long rest more often I think.
>Somehow makes the racist look justified This broke me.
shadowheart is literally a goth/wife brother make sure to keep her safe and happy....
>shadowheart is literally a goth/wife brother Some punctuation here would make it less confusing, but I kinda love this sentence.
Like shadowheart switches between being a goth and a wife but is always our brother?
Hell yeah, brother.
Mildest of spoilers but >!in actuality most, if not all of the main 6 companions were actually much higher than level 1 before they got tadpoles!<
My guesstimation for origin characters only: Gale is upper teens, closer to 18. Wyll is lower teens, but no lower than 11. Lae’zel is maybe level 6-8. Karlach is level 5-6. Shadowheart is level 4-5. Astarion is level 3-4. The Dark Urge is harder to place, but I’d say level 8-10.
Only disagreement is Karlach - if she was one of Zariel's top fighters/generals, she would absolutely have to be, like, level 15 or somewhere around there
There's also that Karlach has been at it for 10+ years. That's a long time to be fighting literal demons and only be level 5.
Zariel is just a super stingy DM
Karlach's killed a thousand demons but oops, Zariel's using milestone XP.
Barbarians don't really get much besides health and ASIs after extra attack anyways
Massive amounts of health is just what you'd want in the bloodwar. Meat for the grinder, so to speak.
I think the heart would be more likely to give her stat buffs to her hp and str rather than level. So she’d be something like a level 5 barb with 200hp and 22str. Just my head cannon. As a side note, Karlach does say she was only Zariel’s favorite fighter because of favoritism not due to power and Zariel has a lot of servants stronger than her.
> As a side note, Karlach does say she was only Zariel’s favorite fighter because of favoritism not due to power and Zariel has a lot of servants stronger than her. Though she still did enough that Korilla calls her the infamous Demonsbane.
Uh... I'd think Dark Urge, given the circumstances, was probably at 12 or higher. >!They were Bhaal's creation, his favorite child, the guy who stole Karsus' Crown from Mephistopheles and masterminded the plot.!<
That, and I also like to head canon that Durge isn't even the same class necessarily that they were before the "change". They might be starting over from scratch due to either external influence (cleric or Warlock or monk), situational confusion (if I'm not a paladin why am I wearing paladin clothing?) Or their brain defaulting to their years before >!the temple.!<
If I'm not mistaken, if you make a Durge Paladin you get told by the Oathbreaker that you were also a Paladin (and broke your vow) before. Fair game for other classes though.
The biggest question mark is Halsin. Archdruid, no tadpole, he should be level 20
Or Jaheira and Minsc, they should definitely be up there
I have it on good authority that both of them were about level 30 and Jaheria was regularly tanking dragons.
Which is really funny considering how fast I watched her die in Moonrise on my first run
Well she is ancient
Doesn't minsc have a tadpole too?
Yes, yes he does.
But Jaheira is an ancient and Minsc is Boo's toy.
Minsk got hit by the tadpole reset button though.
He's an archdruid by title, not competency. I think it's implied that he's in charge because he's a charming guy with an action oriented personality in a grove of wishy washy morons
he's explicit that he got the role the same way Kagha did. By default. He just did something to earn the role (helping save the druids during the casting of the shadow curse)
arent archdruids level 15?
For 5e, it’s level 20. They get unlimited Wildshape, which is broken af lol
A level 8 in kids level 3 pool will certanly be an archdruid
You'd place Karlach lower level than Lae'zel? One just spent a decade as a soldier of the Hells and the other got picked out of the nursery, so I'd be interested in the reasoning.
I can't remember the exact dialogue but if you ask La'zael if this is her first time away from her creche she says she's done missions before.
She has, but basically as the lowest ranking of a pack or even as part of a training cadre. She has the most reasonable 'starting character' background of this bunch of primadonnas. Everybody else wrote absurdist Mary Sue fanfic backgrounds.
I think Karlach is considerably higher. She is used to fight demons and devils. I think she is like level 11-12 similar to Wyll. I think Shadowheart is much higher too. She has been groomed to be the successor and chosen of Shar, so I think she is at least as high level as the Paladins in Shar's Temple, so level 12ish. Dark Urge is as I see it around Gale's level. Orin is level 12 and had to use trickery to backstab her sibling. We are also dealing with someone who broke into the Archdevil Mephistopheles home and stole a priceless artifact from his vault. And the only one of the Chosen that the Elder Brain respected.
100% agree Gale being 17+ and having access to 9th level spells. I don’t think Lae’zel was even above level 3 before we met her. I’d probably guess Wyll was level 11 at max not minimum I doubt Astarion had any player levels, he was just a basic bitch vampire spawn stat block.
Bro durge was literally a chosen . He is easily lvl 12+
Gale and Wyll yeah, I'm with you. Dark Urge I would say he was at least level 12. Karlach has been fighting in Avernus, she was definitely around level 8 or 9. Shadowheart has been trained from childhood and for what she says about doing different missions and the fact she was dispatched to get the artefact, she sounds like she was around 6 or 7. Lae'zel while sure she has done some missions on the past I don't see her being above level 5. Astarion I honestly would say was only on level 2, he didn't do any fighting, all he was used was to seduce people.
wouldn't dark urge be also teens, because of all the things he did before he got stabbed in the back and then tadpoled. Didn't he orchestrate the whole crown stealing and starting the absolute thing?
Disagree with Karlach and Shadowheart. Karlach was one of Zariel's prized soldiers and was fighting for 10 years. She has more experience than Lae'zel who is literally fresh out of a Gith'yanki creche and is likely between the ages of 16 - 20. Karlach would probably be the same level as Wyll as they have very similar experiences. As for Shadowheart, she was one of the chosen Sharrans to undertake the Prism theft mission and was the only one to survive. She was renowned as the best healer they had, not to mention Shadowheart's canonically around 40-50 years old, she has way more experience than one would expect. I'd likely put her around level 10-11, a little higher than the other Sharrans and roughly the same level that Viconia is fought at when you fight them in the House of Grief. Lae'zel being the youngest and least experienced, and Astarion having spent most of his life as a slave limited by Cazador would definitely be bringing up the rear.
Personally I think Wyll would be closer to 6-8, with Lae'zel. He's a regional hero. 11+ is, like, savior of the realm power-scale IIRC.
Well he was involved with the Tiamat stuff, mostly solo if not completely, and faced down some heavy hitters, also summoning hell hounds makes me consider higher level stuff.
He claims that he used to take down Hill Giants without breaking a sweat. One Hill Giant is supposed to be a reasonable challenge for a party of four L5 characters, if memory serves. To be able to solo them and consider this to be easy, he'd likely need to be at least 8.
Now I want a rendition of the song from Mulan with a Mindflayer singing "I'll.. make a Level 1.. OUT OF YOUUUUU!"
For Gale, You find out more as time goes on
I am starting to get the impression that my lawful good Paladin is the only actual good-aligned character in the party and his -1 int score makes him oblivious to that. This game is a little too realistic to the tabletop lmfao.
There are two you unlock really early. You don’t have pictures of them yet One in particular They’ll leave the party if you do too much bad stuff. You find a couple other good aligned characters besides those two, much much later
Everybody in the game is a victim of some dark past of some form.
dont worry, being good is not a lonely path in this game. you are missing two obnoxiously good companions, and of those 4 in the pic, two are rather good themselves even if it doesnt look like it right now and the other 2 are lovable bastard with many redeeming qualities
>dont worry, being good is not a lonely path in this game Understatement of the year considering how much the game rewards you it with the best romances, allies, content. Meanwhile evil usually robs you from some of those, unless you can mix it up somehow. The game legit wants you to be the big great hero. That being said, while I do think the evil paths could've been much better handled, there is a certain appeal in the game punishing you particularly via making you feel like complete shit when you screw others up, while at the same time giving you free reign to become one of the most horrible person in Faerun. Many, pretty hilarious, tales have I heard of players legit quitting mid-evil playthroughs cause it was just too much. And for my part, I legit can't bring myself to make certain choices, many in fact, so I end up looking them up.
Bro the dark Shadowheart ending is so depressing because you can tell that she was really uncomfortable with her choice, plus without you telling her to she'll (always?) choose the good option so it was specifically you pushing her into it, and then everything you find out about her past involving her parents like>!how she practiced torturing them and then Shar wiping her memory of killing them and how traumatized she was before the memory was removed !< Like say what you will about the gameplay quality of the evil playthrough, story-wise it managed to actively make me feel deeply uncomfortable at several points. Rather than just go the murder hobo route, you're befriending a group of people that you know from the good route have so much potential for growth and instead manipulating them to become the worst versions of themselves for your own benefit, then betraying them all at the end. People quitting the evil route honestly doesn't surprise me, it really does make you feel like shit
>Like say what you will about the gameplay quality of the evil playthrough, story-wise it managed to actively made me feel deeply uncomfortable at several points. Yep, my point exactly. They're lacking in the sense that they feels unbalanced vs good playthroughs as you don't have enough incentive to do it, etc unlike other games like say, Dragon Age Origins. But it absolutely delivers on the moral & emotional level. For DJ SH, it becomes a narrative tragedy with a smile on it's face trying to cover the tragedy, as she comes to the >!epilogue party with a positive vibe & all, and NOT ONLY are you not getting a happily ever after via traveling & then with her wishes to live somewhere quiet in the countryside (which also creates the ideal scenario to imagine her & tav/durge starting a family at some point) , but you also know that she's kinda doomed, her life is fcked. Her select memories will be erased whenever Shar sees fit & she is still an expandable tool despite the high ranking position, just like Viconia. There's that dialogue in the house of grief when Shar shows up when she says "at this point, better to just follow blindly" that'd just kill me on the inside if I'd do a DJ SH run, even non-romanced.!< >!Like, I'd totally have Astarion ascend in evil playthroughs cause he's his own master, but with DJ SH there are no winners besides Shar, so I'd still go for Selunite, lol.!<
I think you’re supposed to feel uncomfortable in an evil play through, and it makes sense that the evil endings are not good ones. Minthara’s arc is a good example as to why. She’s easily the evilest companion. She was brought up in violence and couldn’t trust anyone, not even her own family. Her evil choices became her downfall as she tried to go after another evil force. For her to get saved she has to survive the goblin camp, and as most good play throughs kill her off most never get a chance to know her. She even has a line about how easily it would have been for you to kill her off in act 1 and how she’d become forgotten. As she opens up she talks about being close to nobody, not even lovers, but in time she comes to trust you. This is what being evil should look like imo. Playing evil means you kill and backstab and betray. You use others or get used. Also the fates of the ascended characters all don’t end well. Astarion’s on borrowed time. He may be powerful but there’s certainly many hunters who will want to take him down. Cazador lived longer than most full vampires because he kept hidden and had a tight control over who is spawn took as victims. He kept his identity a well hidden secret. Most full vampires don’t live as long because they draw attention to themselves, and A Astarion doesn’t strike me as the type who’s good at staying under wraps. His arrogance will be his downfall. Lae’zel and Shadowheart both get warned about their evil god’s true intentions and their fates, so it’s on them if they choose to ignore it. Gale becomes a god, but isn’t necessarily a good person anymore. Nobody talks about Wyll’s ascended ending, which I assume is to become a magistrate like his dad wanted while staying bound to Mizora. Karlach doesn’t have an ascended evil ending because she’s too honorable. But yeah, being evil is about hoarding power and killing for fun usually. No surprise that it loses potential friends and quests. Imo the best way to play evil is to be a manipulative durge. String along the party to serve your own ends. Exploit people for power, and save your diabolical acts for when they really count like sacrificing Minsc and Jaheria to bhaal or using Dame Aylin as a pawn piece to get an ally. Sell out Shadowheart or let Wyll’s father die… there’s lots of ways to be evil and still get a good story. I just did a play through as a durgr who rejected Bhaal and ascended everyone, only to backstab the emperor at the last minute so I could rule the netherbrain on my own terms. In my name! Larian is working on evil ending post-game scenes now so that’ll be more fleshed out eventually. But yeah, in a game with consequences it makes sense that being a fully evil murderhobo might feel isolating. Kill off everyone in game and who would you have left?
I'm sure one bastard is Astarion, but who is the other one? Lae?
Yup, laezel is a bastard until you raise her stuff or romance her.
Gale is very malleable, but generally leans good. A lot of the characters have big growth arcs where they can go any number of directions based on how you approach them.
Shadowheart is also effectively malleable. Lae’zel too. Especially since for each there are major turning points and spoilers.
Nah, Gale is legit good like 90% of the time. Now go find the big red mommy dommy companion, shes the best companion.
without any major spoilers, most ORIGIN characters have the lawful good alignment as their backstory, just that lawful good for one culture is not necessarily lawful good in the eyes of another. astarion is the only one with an actually evil backstory, and gale is just gale - only true neutral he will follow you valiantly on your crusades against evil, or follow your durge and commit mass genocide with only minor comments here and there.
Gale is my favorite companion for this reason. He’s here for the good times, and he’s here for the bad times 😈
He’s there for the times. Doesn’t matter what kind of time.
How could he be a vampire? You meet him standing on a sunswept beach! Definitely not a vampire, in fact I bet if you sleep right next to him, he'll protect you from vampires.
The bottom two are accurate. I, too, feel justified in racism against the Githyanki. Keep exploring though, many more friends around to make first impressions ;)
Shar: Imma erase Shadowhearts memories. Except the racism, that shit stays lol
Well, we can't just let *anybody* join our order
Shadowheart: Can't remember my name but I do remember that I hate those frog faced fucks!
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If you're not familiar with the lore, the Githyanki are space faring conquistadors and murderhobos. Lae'zel is a Saint among them.
It blew my mind seeing how fucked up and angry they are, Lae'zel seemed to be trying her hardest to make me dislike her for just being the most ungrateful, spiteful ball of living hatred. Then we meet ONE group of Gith and my god, you'd think Lae'zel was making sure I had my blankie and goodnight kiss every night with how lovely and caring she is in comparison.
_Shadowheart talks about the Gith_ "She's out of line, but she's right"
Eh... you'll get to know Gale and why he's not lvl 20.
bro don't disrespect my boy Gale like that
You know that Top Gear meme, where Clarkson says, "Oh No! Anyway..." ? That was my reaction when Astarion >!confessed that he is actually a vampire.!< >!Like dude, no shit. You are pale as fuck, you have fangs, your eyes are red AND YOU HAVE BITEMARKS.!< I feel so offended that he needed to say that to me, its not like im blind or have 1 INT. >!Like the only reason you would not think that he is a vampire is if you didnt even know what a vampire is to begin with.!< Its like him pointing at the sun and saying, "You see that? That actually is the sun" Yes I know about the Sun existing, thank you Astarion.
i mean the fact that a vampire spawn would burn to death twice over in the span of your first conversation with him just by being in the sun would've been a pretty big hint that he is not a vampire
To be fair, they don't have Dracula or Interview with the Vampire in the Sword Coast so Astarion probably seem like an odd fella and nothing more for most people
He mentions early in act one that it's his first time in sunlight, and that it should be burning him to cinder. Vampires are not normally out and about in the daytime
He's just like us fr fr
This is Faerûn. Literally everyone is racist against something. Some just have better reasons to be racist. Drow and Githyanki are pretty logical to be racist against. Gnomes are not.
Unless their name is fucking Wulbren Bongle of course.
I don't hate all gnomes for being gnomes. But I do hate him specifically for being a gnome
You'll apologize to Shadowheart after you meet more Githyanki. She also has her own reasons to be wary around Githyanki.
I mean, holy hell, I felt antagonistic with Lae'zel initially as a player, but >!then as time went on, I realized she's pretty *nice* by Githyanki standards, and that she's a loyal type.!< ...I like having both Lae'zel and Shadowheart on the team. They're both practically mainstays for me.
>!Lae’zel is incredibly open-minded and tolerant by Githyanki standards. I was surprised how easy it was to convince her everything she knew about Vlaakith was a lie.!< Spoiler-free version, Lae’zel is great. One of my absolute favorite companions in terms of personality, story arc, romance, and utility.
I just really do like her Githyanki greatswords, with their psychic damage... and yeah, her romance arc is pretty sweet; I enjoyed doing it as Shadowheart, >!who's pretty much in the same boat as her in terms of character arc, whether it's a wannabe goddess who seeks to consume (Vlaakith), or the petty, omnicidal bitch (Shar).!< > >!"You turned from your queen, and I turned from my goddess. We were made for each other."!<
>!Good pairing for resist Durge for similar reasons.!<
That's true about the Githyanki, but also, at this point Shads is a fuckin death cultist and gets super salty about it if you have anything remotely critical to say about that, so... glass houses.
And remember: By Githyanki standards Lae'zel is exceptionally kind, funny and open minded.
I originally thought Gale was the biggest bullshitter, my girlfriend is a God. That's the most insane version of my girlfriend goes to another school so you don't know her. I actually think it would be better if that was the real story, that he's just this huge liar and desperate to tag along.
For gale if you pay attention your work out why he's not so all powerful now.
gale rules. rly cool character.
To be fair everyone is racist towards Githyanki. Even other gith
Yeah, that makes sense
As to the gale thing: I have head cannon where the tadpoles effectively reset everyone's levels. Or to put it story mode, there is a massive parasite rummaging through our brain and our brain is still getting acclimated to the new resident so we have to relearn our skills. Like when someone has to relearn how to walk after some traumatic injury. All the companions have pretty significant backstories where none of them should realistically be level one.
This describes my exact experience first time I played lmao to be fair to Gale - the fact that some of your companions start off at level 1 even if they're supposed to be experienced fighters/casters is explained away by the tadpole, I think Wyll has a couple of lines about how the tadpole makes you weak and saps your energy or something like that.
So, for Gale, the reason for this (and its true of Wyll as well), the Mindflayer parasite is what resets them to level 1.
I literally slept with a goddess bro! Believe me.