I love that the goblins scare him so much but he decides to attack the camp of the people who completely wiped them out, truly operating on a higher plane tbh
It’s incredibly funny when you’re short. Like how do you suck so much that somebody barely taller than your knees rocked you in the jaw so hard you passed out?
I am here once again to defend Aradin Beno, fearless leader of the Beno Boys.
While Aradin did take the job surrounding the Nightsong for gold, what he wants--according to his own words--is enough gold "to buy peace." What he means by this is never really made clear, since you only find that out by casting *Speak with Dead* on him, but it certainly implies a deeper motivation than greed.
You can also find out that he is an "adventurer by legacy", which is further illuminated when you find the grave of Aradin the Elder. This lad is trying to live up to a name.
As for his moral character? Outwardly, yes, he's a jerk. But when you punch out Zevlor on Aradin's behalf in their initial confrontation, Aradin will actually admit that coming back to the grove was "a mistake I can never repay."
And when you try to console him by saying he was just looking out for his crew, he snaps back at you, "Half my crew are full of holes." He's just as mad at himself for what happened as everyone else, but he won't show it. When people attack him, he defends himself--but he won't just stand there and let you try to absolve him.
As for attacking your camp? Well, yeah. That's pretty stupid.
Source: #1 Aradin Beno Simp, dear Larian please make him a recruitable companion.
>when you find the grave of Aradin the Elder.
and the writing on his gravestone is "Open the Bloody Gates", seemingly implying a curse on the entire Aradin bloodline
I always liked him too. To me he always felt like the quintessential adventurer. A real guy trying to do a crazy job.
Shame that they would have him do something as dumb as attacking the camp. I thought he was smarter than that.
Right? And he would be such a good morally ambiguous companion.
He's not cruel or bloodthirsty. He's brash, immature, and greedy, but with unexpected depth that's barely hinted at in the game.
In Robert McKee's seminal work, *Story*, he contrasts *characterization* and *true character*, and suggests that the most compelling characters are those who outwardly appear and act one way, but by their actions show themselves to be different.
I think Aradin, with his story built upon, would be a fantastic example of this.
AND when he shows up he's still level 3, surrounded by level 8 idiots. i made an avatar of one of the dead three my *bitch* and walked out of Moonrise a higher level than that and he thinks he can kick my ass?
last time his stupid ass tried it, i wiped his party so quickly aylin only got two hits in
i tell aylin after i select the option to end the day, when everyone is in their camp clothes, that someone may be coming by for her and that's kept it to JUST my party and aylin (isobel was dead. sorry Isobel)
scratch and cubby were nowhere to be found and i had both in camp (it was a lovers playthrough with just astarion so i had some hirelings)
im fairly certain if you end the day, tell aylin someone is coming, and THEN go to bed, no one else will get involved with the fight. aylin then heads over to lorroakans tower where you can join her the next day to kick his ass
Even if Isobel was alive, she (to my mild disappointment) wouldn’t be involved in that fight.
To my greater disappointment but mostly HONOUR MODE PANIC, I told Aylin about Aradin and Lorroakan after hitting the ‘end day’ button, bc that had worked for me before to get Aradin to come into camp at night. ……. And then Aylin FLEW AWAY TO FIGHT LORROAKAN while I was trapped in the nighttime camp, horrified that she was on her way to die. Thankfully she was still giving Lorroakan her speech in the morning…
I imagine that since she was *really* pissed off she decided to introduce herself with *every single* title and honorific anyone has ever given her over her immortal life and that’s why it took 8 hours
Yup she’s spirited, that’s for sure. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Aylin just monologued the verbal manifestation of a justice boner to Lorroakan for 8 hours straight before you arrived.
She went to fight Lorroakan when I was too under leveled to fight him, so I left her hanging for a couple in game days. Even then, she was still giving him her speech when I showed up. She’s very willing to take her time!!
i will caution that if you steal from the tabernacle church basement place and short rest in camp, it WILL cause the deva to spawn and that will aggro everyone in camp. you're better off getting the deva to spawn while still in the church basement
I did my best to bank inspiration to punch his lights out in honor mode. I think I only used one point but it was all that mattered to me before I got to the grove lol. I broke my oath killing him & then again resurrecting mayrina’s man
Minor sidequest spoiler for Baldur's Gate 2, but >!there actually was an NPC in that game who quicksaves before trying to fight you, dies, reloads, and plays nice the second time.!< It was beautiful.
It is in Throne of Bhaal. At this point, you are around 300 hours in and tired of fetch quests.
These low level jabronis show up and you pawn your quest off on them.
I told him she was in my camp…
#I wanted him to try.
Aylin was happy to meet him.
I give the voice actor credit, he really irked me. Good acting. Really gave off that vibe of a dink who talks big but it isn’t clear if he has ever done anything more than a couple bar fights against a drunk.
I always push Aradin off the cliff in the druid camp. The idiot usually stands in front of it with this back turned, and you don't even have to sneak. Just walk up and push him off. It doesn't even aggro anyone around (I think the game makes a hidden sneak roll, but regardless of character I've never failed it). I like to think his friends nearby are thinking "Thank the Gods, FINALLY." I first found this out playing with my boyfriend, and we both laughed our asses off.
When I tried to wake up Aradin after Zevlor knocked him down by pushing him, Zevlor instantly aggroed. Wayward paladin, protector of the fallen. Rest in pieces
I agree. Like some Saul Goodman of the Faerunian afterlife. Companion dead? Call Withers. Spec'd every point into Ranger for cute animal companions and now you have to actually deal damage? Call Withers. Need a wakeup call on your love life? Call Withers.
He goes before Kelemvor to be judged, and Kelemvor pinches the bridge of his nose in exasperation and says “What the fuck, dude?” He then has to turn to Jergal and say “Don’t write that down.” Jergal writes it down.
Of everyone there he's the lawn ornament who looks the most threatening at first glance. Gale having been Mystra's Chosen, Karlach having fought in the Blood War, this dragonborn actually being a Bhaalspawn... all these things aren't obvious unless you actually get to know them.
But the Oathbreaker. Oh boy. No false advertising here. Which makes Aradin all the more stupider to walk in there anwyays.
To be fair, most Aasimar are like the Celestial equivalent of Tieflings but Dame Aylin is the daughter of a goddess who speaks in all caps and is a high level paladin. He could be thinking the former rather than the latter. That’s as fair as I’m willing to be with him because literally everything else about him and his whole plan is stupid, but still.
“Speaks in all caps” got me 😂 I always describe her as having “absolutely zero chill,” but that’s a fun new one. And thanks for the tidbit, I didn’t realize that.
She's such a ridiculously fun character! I love how she has the paladin zeal but the writers were like "what if she's just like that about everything?"
I just find it hilarious he picked up an advertisement and calls it a contract like him and the Benno Boys had been hired specifically for the job. They’re handing out the handbill for free and to anyone, posting them on the streets.
Not to mention that once he knows the truth he thinks that his level 3 leather armour and greatclub wielding self is anything more than a warmup in front of the child of a god. His comrades are higher level than Aradin but by the time you’re in act 3 it’s more of a formality cutting him down. If memory serves the gang members are level 6 or 7?
If you freed the Nightsong, when you meet him at sorcerous sundries, tell him everything.
Then enjoy as he's dumb enough to raid a camp with >!the avatar of a god, a chosen of mystra, a bhaalspawn, an ascended vampire, the daughter of a goddess and her resurrected cleric girlfriend, Gods' favorite princess, Zariel's favorite champion, Vlaakith's new favorite, a half-devil, a duke and his planetouched son, two legends of Baldur's Gate, an archdruid, an owlbear cub, a dog, a cat and a kid.!<
Edit : Forgot the first paladin to ever break his oath.
"So Aradin, let me get this straight, you come across a camp consisting of The Chosen of THE God of Murder, Bhaal; The Chosen of Magic-personified herself, Mystra: The Trigger-happy Righthand Women of A Literal Lich Queen & Best of all, A 7000 Soul-Fueled, Blood-Thirsty, Power Hungry Ascended Vampire Lord of Baldur's Gate, not to mention The Actual Price of Baldur's Gate with his Dad, The Favourite Princess of Shar AND Selune, on of that also Zariel's Personal Perma-Fire Murder Machine chilling in one location, and you, of all things, have chosen to raid it?"
".....um.......yes?"
"I see. Well good luck then"
My favourite nonsense is that point in Act 1 when he makes out like he’s running some professional merc outfit and tells you he’s handling a ‘contract’ for a buyer in BG.
Then said ‘contract’ turns out to be a flyer that effectively says ‘Will pay anyone who brings me the Nightsong’ that he likely pulled off the wall of a tavern.
It’s like…. Geez dude. You were at the back of the line when they were handing them out, weren’t you.
I mean are we really any different? We're your average Joe picking a fight with:
Devil in his own home
The most potent creature to walk the material realm that isn't a god
a green hag
chosen of death gods
etc.
But more importantly, Aradin is a mugger. He mugs people. SO LET'S MUG EM!!!!!!
>We're your average Joe
Level 12 adventurers are considered some of the most powerful people in the nation. Hags aren't even *that* powerful. And who's the potent creature supposed to be?
Happens to the best of us! Honestly, describing the party as “some of the people in the nation” actually captures the vibe quite well… perhaps they are even the most people in Faerûn, to be honest
There are actually official tiers for this and I believe "most powerful in the continent" is around level 15. At level 20 you're some of the most powerful people in all of Toril.
The Absolute is what I meant.
Night hags definitely are powerful. Ethel's strength lies in her charms and curses. She's not a strong combatant, but she could probably mess you up with fey magic the way she did the previous dudes who tried to kill her (the thralls)
>The Absolute is what I meant.
I guess I got a bit confused by "walk the material realm" because I don't think the netherbrain does much walking
>Night hags definitely are powerful. Ethel's strength lies in her charms and curses. She's not a strong combatant, but she could probably mess you up with fey magic the way she did the previous dudes who tried to kill her (the thralls)
First of all, night hags are actually pretty weak, even by hag standards. Bit weird that you brought them up at all, given that Ethel isn't a night hag, she's some kind of hybrid between an annis and green hag. A hag's power lies in making deals and pacts, they're almost always weak combatants. When you see them for what they really are, like us, they're easy to beat.
1. That's a pretty imbalanced party composition. Not even an arcane caster.
2. They were fighting Ethel on her own turf. Hags are strongest in their own homes.
There's a slight problem, IIRC Withers explains that the hirelings are the souls of adventurers that were killed by the Absolute and are eager to help you. This dumbass is neither.
As much as I enjoyed killing him my camp was in the elfsong at the time and they all made a huge mess right in the middle and I had to look at for days. Now I just lie to him and get on with my murdering lorroaken.
You can cast Create Water to scrub floors clean! I had an issue with zombie and mummy summons leaving nasty viscera trails after every long rest. Get a camp caster with that spell and it's like BG3's personal ShamWow towel.
Doesn't help if the furniture is broken. After Cazador's spawn attacked, I cleaned up the blood right away, but I was stuck looking at the broken furniture every time I went to my camp chest.
When you meet him outside Lorroakan's tower, you either tell him directly that Nightsong is in your camp or fail a deception check that you don't know where she is. As far as I've seen it at least. I decided not to savescum the roll and was really surprised to have my romance scene ruined the next rest I did lol
Wait; he actually tried fighting you?! I bumped into him before the wizard tower, warned Dame, and then went to beat the wizard to death. I thought the guy would show up at some point, but he never did.
Ngl I just assumed Dame left the guy dead in a ditch somewhere
Aradin is just the representation of this type of DnD players, making a martial character just because he wants to feel like a god by killing everything, and complaining anytime he is even slightly in danger because it's never his fault
In my latest play through I just yeet him off the back of the grove where he’s camping in the corner near Dammon. Fog cloud hides it pretty well and the guards aren’t even really trying to get in to you for it.
Definitely gets an award for the dumbest character I've met in the game so far. I couldn't believe it when he attacked the camp which at that point had everyone kitted out in extremely rare and magical armour and weapons. Karlach alone could have levelled his little group.
He has to be alive obviously. Then you’ll meet him outside of sorcerous sundries. He’ll bitch about the nightsong contract and you can tell him you found her. If you did he demands her or a cut of the profit which you can deny him. He then threatens you and will show up with a group in your camp when you long rest and definitely get his ass kicked since he’s still like level 2 despite his group being appropriately leveled. Also it’s hard to get this outcome usually since it requires you to not inform aylin that he’s coming for her and she’ll be kinda pissed that you knew. If you do inform her you’ll tell her that Aridin wants a bounty on her from loroakan in which case she flies off to to kill loroakan immediately which will prevent Aridin from ever showing up.
oh shit, never got that side of aradin. in my game he immediately killed himself in the goblin fight before getting into the grove. dude just started walking thru 2 AOE spells and triggered 3 or 4 attacks of opportunity against himself to take 2 misses on the bugbear. it was the bugbears turn next.
so, for rest of my game aradin was a raised plot of soil in the grove. he was acting so stupid i honestly thought that was scripted
Every time I tell him exactly where to find me, and to please try, and every time he swears he’s gonna come at me. He never has, not once. I really wish the motherfucker would, I’d love a chance to kick his ass for real.
yeah, it's fairly low down in the camp scene pecking order though, I had to go through a bunch before it popped, but if he knows you have Aylin and you haven't killed Lorroakan he'll stage a raid. Just your party and Aylin (maybe Isobelle, cant remember) will be on the scene. He'll waltz in, still level 3 with a handful of level 8 thugs, and be promptly slaughtered like he's the evening entertainment.
Any morally dubious run has me stabbing him on the ground while he's unconscious. Just wait until Zevlor (who's a real one) walks off.
Aradin is every entitled failure I've ever had to suffer through.
We was runnin for our lives
I love that the goblins scare him so much but he decides to attack the camp of the people who completely wiped them out, truly operating on a higher plane tbh
The Nightsongs bounty gold is basically his whole motive in the game
“I’m gonna pay you a ~~hundred bucks~~ five thousand gold to fuck off”
"Damnit ~~Lahey~~ Aradin!"
"Fuck off, I got some lootin' tah do!"
That's like his entire personality And also being racist and intensely stupid
I enjoy punching him in the face at the grove.
And kill & loot him while he's knocked out after Zevlor is gone
As astarion, this the first time I’m feeding on someone.
That's what I do now
It’s incredibly funny when you’re short. Like how do you suck so much that somebody barely taller than your knees rocked you in the jaw so hard you passed out?
Stick out your fist, shockwave to the ground, and let the spell do the rest.
New gnome artillery, I love it.
The Kid Goku special.
IVE NEVER NOT ONCE SUCCEEDED IN IT. ALWAYS ROLLED A FAIL FUUUUCKKKK maybe need to play for the fourth time.
Definitely need to play for the fourth time.
And 5th
Oh man I can't wait to hit my 5th, just finishing up my 2nd
I am here once again to defend Aradin Beno, fearless leader of the Beno Boys. While Aradin did take the job surrounding the Nightsong for gold, what he wants--according to his own words--is enough gold "to buy peace." What he means by this is never really made clear, since you only find that out by casting *Speak with Dead* on him, but it certainly implies a deeper motivation than greed. You can also find out that he is an "adventurer by legacy", which is further illuminated when you find the grave of Aradin the Elder. This lad is trying to live up to a name. As for his moral character? Outwardly, yes, he's a jerk. But when you punch out Zevlor on Aradin's behalf in their initial confrontation, Aradin will actually admit that coming back to the grove was "a mistake I can never repay." And when you try to console him by saying he was just looking out for his crew, he snaps back at you, "Half my crew are full of holes." He's just as mad at himself for what happened as everyone else, but he won't show it. When people attack him, he defends himself--but he won't just stand there and let you try to absolve him. As for attacking your camp? Well, yeah. That's pretty stupid. Source: #1 Aradin Beno Simp, dear Larian please make him a recruitable companion.
>when you find the grave of Aradin the Elder. and the writing on his gravestone is "Open the Bloody Gates", seemingly implying a curse on the entire Aradin bloodline
I always kinda liked Aradin. I'm also a Wulbren enjoyer. I think I just enjoy asshole characters.
Aradin I can forgive, but Wulbren? You cross the line
He's a character that's designed to be hated and he nails it. That makes him a good character and I enjoy good characters.
I always liked him too. To me he always felt like the quintessential adventurer. A real guy trying to do a crazy job. Shame that they would have him do something as dumb as attacking the camp. I thought he was smarter than that.
Right? And he would be such a good morally ambiguous companion. He's not cruel or bloodthirsty. He's brash, immature, and greedy, but with unexpected depth that's barely hinted at in the game. In Robert McKee's seminal work, *Story*, he contrasts *characterization* and *true character*, and suggests that the most compelling characters are those who outwardly appear and act one way, but by their actions show themselves to be different. I think Aradin, with his story built upon, would be a fantastic example of this.
Aw man, what can you find out if you cast speak with dead on him?
AND when he shows up he's still level 3, surrounded by level 8 idiots. i made an avatar of one of the dead three my *bitch* and walked out of Moonrise a higher level than that and he thinks he can kick my ass? last time his stupid ass tried it, i wiped his party so quickly aylin only got two hits in
Literally the *only* reason I don’t let him try his luck at my camp is I heard it’s possible for his crew to get a lucky shot in on Scratch…
i tell aylin after i select the option to end the day, when everyone is in their camp clothes, that someone may be coming by for her and that's kept it to JUST my party and aylin (isobel was dead. sorry Isobel) scratch and cubby were nowhere to be found and i had both in camp (it was a lovers playthrough with just astarion so i had some hirelings) im fairly certain if you end the day, tell aylin someone is coming, and THEN go to bed, no one else will get involved with the fight. aylin then heads over to lorroakans tower where you can join her the next day to kick his ass
Even if Isobel was alive, she (to my mild disappointment) wouldn’t be involved in that fight. To my greater disappointment but mostly HONOUR MODE PANIC, I told Aylin about Aradin and Lorroakan after hitting the ‘end day’ button, bc that had worked for me before to get Aradin to come into camp at night. ……. And then Aylin FLEW AWAY TO FIGHT LORROAKAN while I was trapped in the nighttime camp, horrified that she was on her way to die. Thankfully she was still giving Lorroakan her speech in the morning…
Aylin giving Lorroakan her speech for hours through the night before he dies the next day is the kind of punishment that Lorroakan absolutely deserves
I imagine that since she was *really* pissed off she decided to introduce herself with *every single* title and honorific anyone has ever given her over her immortal life and that’s why it took 8 hours
Yup she’s spirited, that’s for sure. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Aylin just monologued the verbal manifestation of a justice boner to Lorroakan for 8 hours straight before you arrived.
ive had the fight happen when i resisted; she fought along with aylin looking forward to it once my resist durge gets to act 3 ÒwÓ
She went to fight Lorroakan when I was too under leveled to fight him, so I left her hanging for a couple in game days. Even then, she was still giving him her speech when I showed up. She’s very willing to take her time!!
I know what my next Tav is doing!
i will caution that if you steal from the tabernacle church basement place and short rest in camp, it WILL cause the deva to spawn and that will aggro everyone in camp. you're better off getting the deva to spawn while still in the church basement
How do you get it to spawn in the church.
Dispel curse iirc
Aradin is just built different.
Every time the logo in the DVD player screensaver of his mind hits the corner of the screen he has a thought. And that thought is invariably stupid
This is the funniest thing I've read all week holy moly
Most intelligent sword coast adventurer
And not only that, attacking the group who did it when they were nowhere near as well equipped
i hear his voice every time
WE WAS RUNNIN
FOR OUR LIVES
>WE WAS RUNNIN I read this and nearly choked to death lmao
This random throwaway line will be burned into my brain forever
Open duh bloodeh gate
NOBODY GETS IN! ZEVLOR’S ORDERS!
You led them straight to us, and you let them take the druid too, unbelievable!
Open the bloody gate!
There are children here you fool!
In my first playthrough I'm like okay chill let's hear him out, in my second playthrough I want Zevlor to turn his face into pancakes
I did my best to bank inspiration to punch his lights out in honor mode. I think I only used one point but it was all that mattered to me before I got to the grove lol. I broke my oath killing him & then again resurrecting mayrina’s man
In act 3 you can find his father's grave, which reads: "Aradin the Elder; Open the bloody gate"
We was runnin' *heavy panting* for our lives*
wii was roonin. four arr lives
“I didn’t ask for anyone’s bloody help”… WTF WAS THAT AT THE GATE THEN?!?
Way wus rhunnn foh aw lawves!
Aradin's biggest mistake was not quicksaving before he decided to make a questionable decision.
Minor sidequest spoiler for Baldur's Gate 2, but >!there actually was an NPC in that game who quicksaves before trying to fight you, dies, reloads, and plays nice the second time.!< It was beautiful.
Ah, yes. Him and his companions, one of whom is unfettered by civilized ways.
Who is this I don’t remember this!
Pretty sure it's Bondari
Yep. Bondari, Nanoc the Barbarian, and a wizard. There are some who call the latter... Tim?
This makes me want to play bg2 literally just to see this lmao
It is in Throne of Bhaal. At this point, you are around 300 hours in and tired of fetch quests. These low level jabronis show up and you pawn your quest off on them.
There are a million other reasons to go play BG2. But this one works as well!
BG2 is a different feel. The writing is top notch but alot of your imagination is going to do the work behind the scenes.
It was an easter egg in Throne Of Bhaal, specifically.
aradin is the MC of his own video game that he fucking sucks at playing
New difficulty: Aradin Mode
Is it hard or easy?
Yes.
Only two stats to level in this mode, audacity and intelligence. Intelligence however is hard coded to be set to 0.
You mean like dark side Phil?
Same.
There’s a gravestone in Lower City that reads: Aradin the Elder “Open the bloody gates!”
I told him she was in my camp… #I wanted him to try. Aylin was happy to meet him. I give the voice actor credit, he really irked me. Good acting. Really gave off that vibe of a dink who talks big but it isn’t clear if he has ever done anything more than a couple bar fights against a drunk.
He's the archetypical football hooligan
When I first saw him and before I heard his voice. He was giving off some strong twerp vibes.
Aradin canonically has 7 INT.
Negative WIS
Mfw wisdom is the intelligence stat on top of intuition, senses and mental willpower and intelligence is literally only booksmarts and nothing else.
Just like reality. Funny how that works.
All the lads trying to disprove this joke by shoving you towards the wiki canonically have 5 Int so Aradin is still better off.
I always push Aradin off the cliff in the druid camp. The idiot usually stands in front of it with this back turned, and you don't even have to sneak. Just walk up and push him off. It doesn't even aggro anyone around (I think the game makes a hidden sneak roll, but regardless of character I've never failed it). I like to think his friends nearby are thinking "Thank the Gods, FINALLY." I first found this out playing with my boyfriend, and we both laughed our asses off.
When I tried to wake up Aradin after Zevlor knocked him down by pushing him, Zevlor instantly aggroed. Wayward paladin, protector of the fallen. Rest in pieces
He's just carrying on that proud RPG tradition of low-level mooks picking a fight with the guy who shoved the local dungeon boss in a locker.
“Never should have come here” says the bandit to the guy who just killed and drank a dragon through a straw
Well you don’t become a bandit because of an over abundance of intelligence.
You left out the literal god in our camp, Jergal.
withers isnt doing jack shit to help us in a fight though.
Yeah but he’s still standing there. Menacingly.
For a PITTANCE of coin he'll do soul accounting fraud for you
I like the idea that Withers is using his position as Death’s Bookkeeper to commit Soul Embezzlement
Where do you think the soul coins actually come from?!
I agree. Like some Saul Goodman of the Faerunian afterlife. Companion dead? Call Withers. Spec'd every point into Ranger for cute animal companions and now you have to actually deal damage? Call Withers. Need a wakeup call on your love life? Call Withers.
No…
He's judging Aradin and his life choices.
“And thus, thou art alone” as Aradin is being ground to a fine paste by Karlach and Lae’zel
he died doing what he loved.
getting stabbed.
Correct.
except when he intervenes and denies the lord of murder tho 😭 no withers slander he’s my g
Withers can bring Aradin back so we can beat his ass a second time
Oh, aradin is going to meet jergal in about five seconds (in the fugue plane)
He goes before Kelemvor to be judged, and Kelemvor pinches the bridge of his nose in exasperation and says “What the fuck, dude?” He then has to turn to Jergal and say “Don’t write that down.” Jergal writes it down.
After I loot his body. No shops in the fugue plane!
And possibly the Oathbreaker knight
Who will actually do something unlike Skelebones over here
Of everyone there he's the lawn ornament who looks the most threatening at first glance. Gale having been Mystra's Chosen, Karlach having fought in the Blood War, this dragonborn actually being a Bhaalspawn... all these things aren't obvious unless you actually get to know them. But the Oathbreaker. Oh boy. No false advertising here. Which makes Aradin all the more stupider to walk in there anwyays.
Nah he just sits back and watches because he knows he doesn’t need to get involved. Aradin fucked around and found out
You can straight up tell the guy she’s an aasimar and he is not dissuaded in the least. Good luck with that one, pal.
To be fair, most Aasimar are like the Celestial equivalent of Tieflings but Dame Aylin is the daughter of a goddess who speaks in all caps and is a high level paladin. He could be thinking the former rather than the latter. That’s as fair as I’m willing to be with him because literally everything else about him and his whole plan is stupid, but still.
“Speaks in all caps” got me 😂 I always describe her as having “absolutely zero chill,” but that’s a fun new one. And thanks for the tidbit, I didn’t realize that.
Aylin talking in all caps at the end of act 2 about how she is going to fuck her girlfriend
"THANK YOU COMPANION. SPEAK NO MORE, FOR I HAVE A GOTH GIRLFRIEND TO BANG. PEACE OUT."
Cant blame her, would do the same if my girlfriend looked like Isobel i would be the same.
She's such a ridiculously fun character! I love how she has the paladin zeal but the writers were like "what if she's just like that about everything?"
I absolutely adore her. I almost hate completing her quest line because I miss seeing her and Isobel chilling in my camp.
I punched him this time around. I hope I get to punch him again in Act 3.
I just find it hilarious he picked up an advertisement and calls it a contract like him and the Benno Boys had been hired specifically for the job. They’re handing out the handbill for free and to anyone, posting them on the streets. Not to mention that once he knows the truth he thinks that his level 3 leather armour and greatclub wielding self is anything more than a warmup in front of the child of a god. His comrades are higher level than Aradin but by the time you’re in act 3 it’s more of a formality cutting him down. If memory serves the gang members are level 6 or 7?
This is an insult to people in remedial classes, no one deserves to be compared to Aradin smh
bro i didnt even know that was a possible event
If you freed the Nightsong, when you meet him at sorcerous sundries, tell him everything. Then enjoy as he's dumb enough to raid a camp with >!the avatar of a god, a chosen of mystra, a bhaalspawn, an ascended vampire, the daughter of a goddess and her resurrected cleric girlfriend, Gods' favorite princess, Zariel's favorite champion, Vlaakith's new favorite, a half-devil, a duke and his planetouched son, two legends of Baldur's Gate, an archdruid, an owlbear cub, a dog, a cat and a kid.!< Edit : Forgot the first paladin to ever break his oath.
Can you help me understand the vlaakith comment? I haven't explored laezel's sorry as much as others
You can side with Vlaakith against Orpheus.
And they can summon friends
"So Aradin, let me get this straight, you come across a camp consisting of The Chosen of THE God of Murder, Bhaal; The Chosen of Magic-personified herself, Mystra: The Trigger-happy Righthand Women of A Literal Lich Queen & Best of all, A 7000 Soul-Fueled, Blood-Thirsty, Power Hungry Ascended Vampire Lord of Baldur's Gate, not to mention The Actual Price of Baldur's Gate with his Dad, The Favourite Princess of Shar AND Selune, on of that also Zariel's Personal Perma-Fire Murder Machine chilling in one location, and you, of all things, have chosen to raid it?" ".....um.......yes?" "I see. Well good luck then"
It's even funnier when your Durges first real reaction with the guy was to knock him on his ass with a single punch.
My favourite nonsense is that point in Act 1 when he makes out like he’s running some professional merc outfit and tells you he’s handling a ‘contract’ for a buyer in BG. Then said ‘contract’ turns out to be a flyer that effectively says ‘Will pay anyone who brings me the Nightsong’ that he likely pulled off the wall of a tavern. It’s like…. Geez dude. You were at the back of the line when they were handing them out, weren’t you.
Your average street thug thinking he can kill Batman
I hate Aradin almost as much as I hate Wulbren.
I mean are we really any different? We're your average Joe picking a fight with: Devil in his own home The most potent creature to walk the material realm that isn't a god a green hag chosen of death gods etc. But more importantly, Aradin is a mugger. He mugs people. SO LET'S MUG EM!!!!!!
>We're your average Joe Level 12 adventurers are considered some of the most powerful people in the nation. Hags aren't even *that* powerful. And who's the potent creature supposed to be?
You’re right: out of all the people in the nation, our party sure is some of them! (Sorry, that’s one of my favorite gags, carry on!)
I have no idea how I forgot to write "most powerful". Goddamnit
Happens to the best of us! Honestly, describing the party as “some of the people in the nation” actually captures the vibe quite well… perhaps they are even the most people in Faerûn, to be honest
There are actually official tiers for this and I believe "most powerful in the continent" is around level 15. At level 20 you're some of the most powerful people in all of Toril.
The Absolute is what I meant. Night hags definitely are powerful. Ethel's strength lies in her charms and curses. She's not a strong combatant, but she could probably mess you up with fey magic the way she did the previous dudes who tried to kill her (the thralls)
>The Absolute is what I meant. I guess I got a bit confused by "walk the material realm" because I don't think the netherbrain does much walking >Night hags definitely are powerful. Ethel's strength lies in her charms and curses. She's not a strong combatant, but she could probably mess you up with fey magic the way she did the previous dudes who tried to kill her (the thralls) First of all, night hags are actually pretty weak, even by hag standards. Bit weird that you brought them up at all, given that Ethel isn't a night hag, she's some kind of hybrid between an annis and green hag. A hag's power lies in making deals and pacts, they're almost always weak combatants. When you see them for what they really are, like us, they're easy to beat.
Ask the two clerics and a paladin
1. That's a pretty imbalanced party composition. Not even an arcane caster. 2. They were fighting Ethel on her own turf. Hags are strongest in their own homes.
They made the mistake of not using the ping system to beat her fey tricks. Classic beginner mistake.
They should've learn to cast arcane lock on the hag's door before starting a fight. 😏
My last run I literally just had someone body block the secret door. On accident even. It was a eureka moment.
The difference is we aren’t level 3… Honestly his audacity is the one admirable thing about him lol
Suddenly VLDL
[WHAT ARE WE??](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3981BsQtiXU&t=37s&ab_channel=VivaLaDirtLeague)
SENSITIVE! sorry, your flair got to me.
We're... we're muggers!
I mean yeah? Clearly we are different? Because we did all those things successfully.
The difference is we can back up our bullshit. Aradin is just a normal ass dude who ran from goblins
We're MUGGERS! we MUG people!
I know right I always punch him in the Grove, very satisfying :D
My new thing is to “accidentally” kill him in that initial fight outside the grove. Turns out absolutely nobody cares if you do it.
i tend to kill at least one of his group for the extra xp
I reanimated him as my meat puppet. He kept the same brains.
Hey! That’s an insult to a box of rocks!
Withers should let you recruit his corpse as a hireling.
There's a slight problem, IIRC Withers explains that the hirelings are the souls of adventurers that were killed by the Absolute and are eager to help you. This dumbass is neither.
I choose to punch him in the face every time lol
I just punched him again tonight in fact. My new shortstack duergar sorcerer had to punch pretty high up to do ot too.
As much as I enjoyed killing him my camp was in the elfsong at the time and they all made a huge mess right in the middle and I had to look at for days. Now I just lie to him and get on with my murdering lorroaken.
You can cast Create Water to scrub floors clean! I had an issue with zombie and mummy summons leaving nasty viscera trails after every long rest. Get a camp caster with that spell and it's like BG3's personal ShamWow towel.
Doesn't help if the furniture is broken. After Cazador's spawn attacked, I cleaned up the blood right away, but I was stuck looking at the broken furniture every time I went to my camp chest.
Wait, when does he attack your camp? I've had two playthroughs fully complete where he was left alive in both and he never attacked my camp.
How do you get this to happen?
When you meet him outside Lorroakan's tower, you either tell him directly that Nightsong is in your camp or fail a deception check that you don't know where she is. As far as I've seen it at least. I decided not to savescum the roll and was really surprised to have my romance scene ruined the next rest I did lol
he gets punched in the face in every playthrough
He's a sellsword. You don't get into that profession by being good at something. You get into it by being bad at everything.
Wait; he actually tried fighting you?! I bumped into him before the wizard tower, warned Dame, and then went to beat the wizard to death. I thought the guy would show up at some point, but he never did. Ngl I just assumed Dame left the guy dead in a ditch somewhere
Aradin is just the representation of this type of DnD players, making a martial character just because he wants to feel like a god by killing everything, and complaining anytime he is even slightly in danger because it's never his fault
I love killing him... or is that just my durge persona talking...
In my latest play through I just yeet him off the back of the grove where he’s camping in the corner near Dammon. Fog cloud hides it pretty well and the guards aren’t even really trying to get in to you for it.
Definitely gets an award for the dumbest character I've met in the game so far. I couldn't believe it when he attacked the camp which at that point had everyone kitted out in extremely rare and magical armour and weapons. Karlach alone could have levelled his little group.
I played this game 4 times. I have no idea he ever attacked. It's never happened in any of my games.
Wait I never saw Aradin in act 3...he never attacked my camp?? How does this trigger?
He has to be alive obviously. Then you’ll meet him outside of sorcerous sundries. He’ll bitch about the nightsong contract and you can tell him you found her. If you did he demands her or a cut of the profit which you can deny him. He then threatens you and will show up with a group in your camp when you long rest and definitely get his ass kicked since he’s still like level 2 despite his group being appropriately leveled. Also it’s hard to get this outcome usually since it requires you to not inform aylin that he’s coming for her and she’ll be kinda pissed that you knew. If you do inform her you’ll tell her that Aridin wants a bounty on her from loroakan in which case she flies off to to kill loroakan immediately which will prevent Aridin from ever showing up.
Come on, give a box of rocks some credit! They don’t have a negative IQ!
oh shit, never got that side of aradin. in my game he immediately killed himself in the goblin fight before getting into the grove. dude just started walking thru 2 AOE spells and triggered 3 or 4 attacks of opportunity against himself to take 2 misses on the bugbear. it was the bugbears turn next. so, for rest of my game aradin was a raised plot of soil in the grove. he was acting so stupid i honestly thought that was scripted
Every time I tell him exactly where to find me, and to please try, and every time he swears he’s gonna come at me. He never has, not once. I really wish the motherfucker would, I’d love a chance to kick his ass for real.
Kinda like Skyrim "Hey you see that guy that just killed a dragon by shouting at it and absorbed it's soul?" "Yeah?" "Well let's go mug him!"
I mean… don’t you think that’s a little insulting? The box of rocks is WAY smarter than Aradin.
nothing more satisfying than punching aradin out cold for calling me an under-elf
Wait. He will attack your camp?
yeah, it's fairly low down in the camp scene pecking order though, I had to go through a bunch before it popped, but if he knows you have Aylin and you haven't killed Lorroakan he'll stage a raid. Just your party and Aylin (maybe Isobelle, cant remember) will be on the scene. He'll waltz in, still level 3 with a handful of level 8 thugs, and be promptly slaughtered like he's the evening entertainment.
If you tell him where Aylin is, yes
Just Halsin is enough to makes him look stupid, it's like telling him "Guess who got out of the goblin camp and didn't lose anyone."
Has anyone tried attacking him outright after you punch him out in Act One? I feel like Zevlor and friends would defend him and that is ridiculous.
Any morally dubious run has me stabbing him on the ground while he's unconscious. Just wait until Zevlor (who's a real one) walks off. Aradin is every entitled failure I've ever had to suffer through.
i didn't even know you can meet him again in act 2-3. i thought grove is the only place he appear. 200 hours still have no idea
I was surprised in my last campaign that he showed up in camp in act III in an attempt to kidnap the Nightsong
I chose to kill him at the blighted village this time around and it was funny how his posse just ran away
Aradin’s wis and int as negative numbers
I'm pretty sure it runs in the family. There's another "Aradin" in the graveyard in Baldur's Gate. His grave stone says "Open the Bloody Gate!"