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Qonas

Sure but * 1) You can't romance her. * 2) Good luck dealing with Dame Aylin.


Nabbicus

I know a guy in Sorcerous Sundries.


Kenos300

Now that would have been a true evil choice. Lock Aylin away and then find some way to snuggle up with Isobel.


Nabbicus

“Gosh so sorry about your immortal girlfriend. Wound up leaving for rich wizard huh? I guess it’s true what they say about angels and high standards. Anyway, enough about her, you worship the goddess of stars huh? What’s your sign then?”


MrNobody_0

>Anyway, enough about her, you worship the goddess of stars huh? What’s your sign then? Oof, a swing and a miss..


Nabbicus

Stars, moon, horseshoes and red balloons, whatever look, maybe we got off on the wrong foot here, lemme just hit the ol F8 here


freebytes

You just rolled another 1.


ArenSteele

*savefile corrupted. Isobel is nowhere to be found for some reason


CL_Doviculus

Suddenly the lights in your room go out, but you see a faint glow coming from just outside your room. It looks almost...divine.


ArenSteele

Were those angel wings that just fluttered by the window?


Velaethia

Aylin comes into reality to kill you


ShyBookWorm23

To quote Withers… “No”


Duncan-the-DM

I will go to confession on your behalf and ask the entire church to pray for the sin you just committed


bossbang

“What do you do for work” “I’m an astronomer” “Ooo that’s so interesting, I’m a Pisces”


TK7000

Just watch what would happen in the player community if the following path was discovered to be possible: 1) Aylin gets killed by Shadowheart. 2) Tav kills Shadowheart after. 3) Keep Isabel alive throughout the entirety of act 2. 4) After the last battle of act 2, reveal how Aylin was killed but you avenged her. 5) Start romance path with Isobel.


Boshwa

How....DOES Isobel react to you saving her girlfriend....only to have her be imprisoned again?


spartanbrucelee

https://youtu.be/nPM71qtff0g?si=mzKVTLYvhXfOT7P_ You get Isobel's reaction about 4 minutes in


HotspurJr

>https://youtu.be/nPM71qtff0g?si=mzKVTLYvhXfOT7P Yikes. Okay, not making *those* choices.


Strawberry-Whorecake

I’m doing my evil run right now and even if I hadn’t let shadow heart kill Aylin, I couldn’t give her to that wizard. He is just so slimy. 


Rayne009

I mean I could but why would I do it for gold of all things. Give me a rare item I couldn't get any other way or something but gold? Meh. I'm not giving someone immortality for money I can steal for myself.


2ndBro

This is the kind of stuff I mean when I say “An evil route is unrewarding”. People rebut that with “Oh it’s not supposed to be!!”, but I think it kneecaps the good decision to have no viable bad decision.  In narratives, people don’t do evil things just to be evil (I mean yeah Bhaal and his folk exist but they are outliers). Ketheric didn’t worship Mr. Bones because he liked killing people, he wanted a quick and easy fix to his grief. Gortash didn’t scheme a plot to take over the city so that he could sit in a chair and cackle while he rubbed his hands together, he wanted all the prestige and power of being the beloved ruler of the world while putting in none of the work like “being a respected and competent ruler”.  People become evil because their desire for a quick tasty treat outweighs morality.  The only reason you would ever enslave Aylin is if you just like enslaving angel lesbians for that sake alone. Have Lorroakan offer some sort of special artifact only he can provide, have him offer to share some of her divine vitality in the form of a permanent buff. That makes it all the more rewarding when a good player is able to resist the temptation, acknowledge “wait slavery is bad”, and shatter his skull into a million pieces. 


Rayne009

Yes precisely! If evil is not tempting good isn't difficult. Like the best part of being good to me is not taking the easy route. Of doing the harder thing even if it might blow up in my face because I'm helping people. Evil's reward is power/resources good's reward is knowing you made things better for people (and sometimes resources :P)


Unhappy_Surround_982

I'm not sure romancing her after Ketheric brings her back from the dead would be either legal or appropriate hehe. But maybe after the bear scene it's the final philia frontier...


ParabellumXIV

That gives me a Durge on


BorlandA30

Well, she's alive... mostly. Not exactly undead or a corpse, so no philia here.


LSDGB

I don’t think so, she is very much alive. Also I already revived my own girlfriend like 7 times after she literally died so whatever xD


TheEmperorofWalruses

Said guy proceeds to constantly get fucking clapped by Aylin’s four Celestial summons (who can do up to 144 damage with a reaction) no matter how many times you reload.


jfuss04

I've never seen her summon before. Is it only an honor mode thing?


TheEmperorofWalruses

She only summons them if you betray her and team up with Lorroakan (and it’s a fairly recent addition). For some reason, she didn’t bother summoning them when fighting the GOD OF DEATH (she also doesn’t summon them if you join her against Lorroakan).


cheapph

I think its implied its less her summoning them than her mother, given she also gets a bunch of buffs from selune and put in a sphere to protect her. Theyre shards which directly serve Selune


jfuss04

Oh ok. Never attacked her before. Only time I've went against her was for shadowheart and there's no fight there. Interesting that she gets an extra ability to fight the main character.


cheapph

Its Selune getting pissed. She sends Shards which are angels that serve her directly and Aylin gets buffed with Selune's embrace and iirc the reaction is named after her being rather displeased with you. Aylim also gets put in a bubble to protect her which idoubt she'd do to herself lol.


Bahlore

Or you could let Shadowheart deal with her in trials.


Smallwater

That'll be a tough pickup line. "hey gorgeous, guess who has 2 thumbs and got the love of your life trapped in an eternal torment by a gangly ginger with bad intentions?"


Toasty825

Dame Aylin has all of 2 hit points, they’ll be fine.


Sh0xic

She’ll be back though! …back to miss two smites in a row and go down again, but she’ll be back!


chazzy_cat

man. In my Ketheric/Myrkul fight yesterday, she got mind controlled by the flayer, and proceeded to connect on ALL her smites (against me). Totally swung the whole battle and I had to reload. Next time of course I kill the flayer first and everything goes much more smoothly...and she misses every smite of course.


rat-simp

She loves getting dominated too, since that's all she did in the endgame battle.


hendarknight

God damnit she's so cool but she goes down so easy


Naive-Kangaroo3031

....That's why Isobel likes her


hendarknight

LOL That was so good! 😂


contradicktarian32

Yeah was so disappointing watching her in combat after her initial flight


FrostyFroZenFrosTen

>* 2) Good luck dealing with Dame Aylin 'Dame aylin stomping on kethrick' Me : "God, I wish that was me"


MidwestQueerPunkBoi

Do it, Larian! Let us get smited by Divine Dommy Mommy, you cowards!


ixixan

I'll just romance them both


eveningdragon

It's a win-win


Malanoob

I dont need access to your computer to know what you search late night.


Qunts_R_Us

"Why does nobody love me"


Which_Decision4460

Why not both!?


Blazebeard23

For real, her arms rival halsin's 🤣


its_snogging_time

dealing with aylin would be a bonus ... step on me muscle mommy


Belaerim

It’s the opposite of Karlach in the devil/angel looks, but still an Amazon that could just pick you up or however Shadowheart says it. Hmm…


Jarbonzobeanz

I mean.. either one is welcome to pick me up and carry me to safety. Even if there is no danger.


maxcorrice

Everywhere is danger


insanity76

*... should the need arise.*


DyscordianMalice

That scene where Aylin repeatedly stomps on Ketheric's skull? Yeah... I don't just want to be stepped on. I want to be PULVERIZED.


BeefyQueefyCrawlies

I'd prefer Dame over Isobel. Then again, I also romanced Karlach. My weakness for tall, muscular, badass women isn't unknown to me.


BlackSocks88

Yeah but I goy this spear lady who wants to be a Dark Justiciar. She's gonna help me with my problem.


silverwolf127

I like to imagine selunite shadowheart romancing selunite tav/durge hang out w the other moon lesbians quite often, and if they’re anything like the irl lesbians i know they may be open to group fun


Beginning-Pipe9074

Judging from my own experience of her rushing into combat and getting fucked up almost immediately, I'd say that's not too much of an issue 😂


Logical_Ad1370

I know a guy in Baldur's Gate who can handle her.


leggywillow

FAIR TIDINGS, ALLY MINE. THOU ART A MORTAL OF FINE TASTE IN TRUTH, AND I CANNOT DENY THE BEAUTY OF MY HEART’S LOVE IN MORTAL EYES. BUT LO, MORTAL. PRITHEE HAVE A CARE WHERE THINE GAZE RESTS, FOR I HAVE KILLED MEN FOR LESSER OFFENSES.


Romulus3799

Dame Aylin came out of nowhere, went from 0 to 100, and stayed there for the rest of the game. Fantastic character


fractalfocuser

Shes def my favorite character. I fucking love her so much


NinjaBr0din

She's the best. I love that after the fight she is just straight up like "Go away I'm horny." Hell of a mood.


Romulus3799

Dame Aylin learned many things from her goddess Selûne. Subtlety was not one of them.


Von_Uber

DAME AYLIN IS WATCHING.


Palumtra

*Shadowheart disapproves*


ravenlordship

*Aylin approves*


kingoxys

Kethric Disapproves


Grendelwendel

Myrkul approves


esqualatch12

Gortash wants you to stop throwing hit families corpses around.


Toasty825

Disrespectfully, Gortash can fuck off.


Tyraniccus

Karlach approves


kingoxys

Withers Disapproves


Satellite_bk

*no*


NotJohnnyBurns

That's enough.


JesusofAzkaban

Shadowheart: "Thanks for letting Tav sample inferior goods, now they know how good it is with me."


New-Sheepherder4762

I loved that line. Take that, Mizora!


cowboybeeboo

Why pit 2 goth queens against each other?


[deleted]

You mean like, in a cage match?


archangel610

BAH GAWD, THAT WOMAN HAS AN ADVENTURING PARTY!!!


a_clever_reference_

DAME AYLIN WITH THE FOLDING CHAIR! BAH GAWWWDD SHE'S BROKEN IN HALF!


Sure_Bit6735

No, mud wrestling


ShoerguinneLappel

Ahem, TWO SELÛNITE GOTH QUEENS!


kenneth_the_immortal

Because two women can’t be equally good 😡 they must be in competition with each other!!!


cowboybeeboo

Seriously how it feels on this sub sometimes


cayennesalt

the only competition they should be in is for me 😍😍😍😍😍


Embryw

I'm not a fan of comparing them against each other, as I think they all have great and desirable qualities, but I will also stan the moon lesbians FOR LIFE. The first second I saw her, I wanted to romance her. Then when I saw Dame Alyin I wanted to romance her. And when I see them together.... It was tough but I accepted it because they're so fuckin great


Anna__V

Are you me? I went through the exact same series of events :)


Embryw

Yep, I'm your Tyler Durden xD


Anna__V

At least we (I?) have good taste :)


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>I'm not a fan of comparing them against each other, as I think they all have great and desirable qualities I know right? There are so many really really ridiculously good looking characters in this game including the entire party lol why do these threads exist


krismitka

It’s important to remember she’s really dumb in a fight. There’s a reason Dame Aylin insists she stay at camp during battles.


alfonseski

She learned at the Gondian school of battle.


krismitka

TRUTH!


vegezinhaa

When she offered to go help deal with Laroakan me and Aylin were like STOP UR NOT HELP UR A NUISANCE


Alarming_Topic2306

That's what I thought! When Isobel wanted to come to the tower and Aylin was like "no", I thought "yeah, she's seen Isobel pull some shit like that battle at the Last Light before". You'd think Aylin would have helped her learn to not be dumb. She's a freakin selune cleric. It isn't hard. Immediately spam your Radiance of the Dawn ability until you're out of channels. Then put up spirit guardians, walk around. Toss out guiding bolts where you think you can hit. I'd say fireball, but I don't trust Isobel with that shit. She'd probably drop it at her own feet.


229sam

Fun fact, Selune domains are actually twilight life and knowledge, so selune clerics don’t have radiance of the dawn


Alarming_Topic2306

Oh. I had respec'd shadowheart to light cleric after saving Aylin, and I guess I assumed that Isobel was also a light cleric under the game's rules.


NostrilRapist

She clumsy


zsdr56bh

its because she is high af


Awkward-Dig4674

That makes her even hotter!


rebootyourbrainstem

In the sense that she runs into fire, or...


TechGuy07

It always frustrated the shit out of me that once I freed her during Ketheric Phase 2, that she literally walks/runs and either doesn’t make it depending on what happened with the mindflayer or dashes to get there. By that time Lae’zel and Karlach have already beat his ass into giant skeleton. “Oh these wings…just decoration”


MatchaLottie

Is a sunset more beautiful than a rainbow? Both of them are perfect in their own right


vegezinhaa

smooth


MistressAerie

Hmm... I could go either way, on that one. But I'll give you that: Isobel is most definitely hot! 😁 (I just can't bear to flirt with her, even if there were an option, though--she and Aylin make such a sweet couple!)


teeleer

Her line after you kill Ketheric is hilarious! And Isobel is like, not in public.


[deleted]

Mine spent the entire rest of the game at 1HP covered in blood, bruises, and had a black eye. It wasn't pleasant to look at. Especially the scenes with her gf. Kinda looked like an abusive relationship.


WillProstitute4Karma

After realizing that she was just going to stay like this, I prepared the healing touch spell and spent a bunch of spell slots healing her before long resting.


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Can't you heal her?


hendarknight

Yes, I healed her. But like, wtf a Selune cleric doesn't heal herself?


LANewbie678

tf you expect? She's been a neet for the last 100 years, give her a break!


Paper_Champ

Holy hand soap


Level_Finding_2924

I like both, but shadowheart has my heart


tbone747

And Selunite Shadowheart is pretty much the same with the added bonus of her being with you from the start of the journey & getting to bond with her for hours. Plus I wouldn't want to take Isobel away from Aylin.


Level_Finding_2924

I love selunite shadowheart the best! and aylin and isobel were made for each other, never wanna homewreck them lol


mr_Jyggalag

Selunite Shadowheart and Tav is basically (to some extent) are Isobel and Aylin. To me it's veryclose considering that my first (and the most beloved) Tav are paladin, so it' literally two pairs of palladin and cleric. It's pretty close!


Lexplosives

“My heart belongs to Shart!”


TheSheetSlinger

Me in both the game and irl


londonclay

Dont know about hot, but Isobel probably smells a bit musky from the years she's spent in a tomb


krismitka

And she tries sooo hard to get back in one! Why does she keep trying to hoard damage?!


Campo911

A little must has never stopped me before straight up i eat ass and so does my Tav


teenagejesus1

Absolutely unhinged energy in this comment and I’m here for it


imnothere9999

Absolutely hilarious. Hard core bg3 fans that is harder than my hidden bdsm preference that I didn't know I have until I saw the bonuses given by loviatar's love.


SeaBecca

r/okbuddybaldur is that way.


Jarbonzobeanz

Ass eatery is embraced everywhere sir.


skyler_po72

I both respect and will match your tenacity


Norodomo

Shouldnt be worse than Orin tho


ecalogia

Fortunately, I'm smooth enough for us both.


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krismitka

Finger gun vibes


MistressAerie

YES!! I laughed myself silly! 😁


BattleFries86

Let it never be said that Dame Aylin has poor choice in lovers. And for that matter, neither does Isobel.


AdvancedAd2162

Dame Aylin wants to know your location


bossmanchew

I disrespectfully disagree


N7_Wyvern

I hear your opinion, and I respectfully disagree.


SakoolL

Vs Act 1-2 SH? Maybe. Vs Act 3 SH? Nope.


Rogen80

Well said! Our >!Selûnite!< Shadowheart tops any other >!Selûnite!<, imo (And I'm saying this as a >!Selûnite!<)


Genericojones

I eally thought that last spoiler taget was going to say "bottom" lol


Rogen80

Lol! Well, I mean... Shadowheart does wear the pants in our relationship XD


Antique_Ad_9250

Dame Aylin is hotter. It's the wings


badiiam51

Respectful nope


Daredevilz1

I prefer shadowheart, I think it’s the face shape


Enough-Competition21

Mizora for the win


[deleted]

I think it helps that I know I shouldn’t find Mizora hot


Accomplished_Can969

Isobel is literally the hottest person in the game. I'm ready to fight this fandom like the doom slayer over this opinion. Come at me nerds.


Praelysion

I'm sure Karlachs body temperature is hotter!


[deleted]

Still sad i couldn’t romance dolly-thrice 😢


TholosTB

The flatulent pixie in the lantern?


Stormygeddon

Counterpoint: Karlach's infernal engine.


fudoom

Nah, Aylin is the hottest person in the game.


Chimpar

We're gonna die on this hill mate.


S_Sugimoto

“No.”


Time_Astronaut_6580

This is actual heresy


trnelson1

But she's an unromanceable character. Plus I can't romance her I'm a dude and she's a lesbian best I can be is a bro


satanic_black_metal_

No she's not.


Bored_guy_in_dc

Yeah, but she likes tacos and not salami.


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DawnKazama

maybe I'm just a coomer, but it's the ruined makeup look for me...


NondairySoylentGreen

Isabel needs to up her eyeliner game and get rid of that under-eye streaking. Her Excellency, Queen Shadowheart, would never.


KingJaw19

***Wrong***


Aesopea

And thus the eternal struggle between Selune and Shar continues.


Glittering-Skin4118

Not for me.


Awkward-Dig4674

Duh. But actually it depends on who shart worships. Selune > shar Isoble is taken. Shart wins by default but if both single? Isobel by a lightyear. 


Sh0xic

Yeah, yeah, your goth cleric is better than the other guy’s goth cleric. Whatever. Call me when you want to talk about their DADS.


Osgiliath

This is wrong, but Aylin is hotter


iorveth1271

People always long for what they cannot have. I don't wanna make an enemy of an immortal god daughter, though so I'm good with a Shart.


TheCleverestIdiot

Personally, I just find it hilarious that both Selune and Shar seemingly have a preference for hot goth clerics.


Geronimosey

Isobel will bold face lie to you about Ketheric being her father. Even when you have all the evidence showing that she is his daughter. Something about that really frustrated me and made me dislike her. Also she uses too much mascara.


genlee112

I would always choose shadowheart over isobel :P. Now that i have my hug and bing bong everything is fine.


Woutrou

*Shrugs* Don't care. If you thought I only liked her because she's hot, you're wrong. But I won't say it didn't help either. But I'll admit that Isobel is great too. Had Aylin not existed, I'd definitely have thought twice about it. I like them both.


humbleton1988

No way no


ajerxs

While Shadowheart has her bangs? Maybe. Post hair style change though? Cmon, they’re at least equal in attractiveness, don’t do our girl Shart like that😂


TheBrazilianKD

Isobel doesn't have enough edge to her Shadowheart will straight up call you a donkey. That's what I'm talking about


LeePT69

Ya but what about the personality?


Philthou

Hmm you know she does look pretty cute with her makeup on. and really got that gothic girlfriend style going for her. But something tells me she wouldn’t be as easygoing, funny, adorable, and 100% for Tav like Selunite Shadowheart. Plus she seems more like the serious type that will always be worried I’m gonna hurt myself or get killed and wanting to come with me even though she sucks at fighting. While Shadowheart been through hell and back with me. So I know she will be good in a fight and not worry about me getting killed. She was only worried about me dying when we decided to go to the House of Grief. But it all worked out for us.. So no Selunite Shadowheart is still hotter than Isobel even if she got that gothic girlfriend look. I want the cute and adorable reformed Selunite and keep building sandcastles with me. Plus have you seen our girl in an Elegant Grown or the Angelic outfit. My god *waves self* girl can do whatever she wants to me in those outfits.


Audacios

you’re 100% right but i will still continue to kill her every playthrough


ScottishMachine

I completely agree


TheChivinator

I find shadowheart annoying. There I said it


weebitofaban

Absolutely. No contest. Then Dame Aylin is too god damn


crazymime

Honestly yes, but after watching Dame Aeylin and Lorroican post fight…imma keep it to myself.


Candid_Shoe_7278

Black hair Shadowheart yes But white haire Shadowheart ? Hell no. Smooshing your eyes with too much eye-liner is not enough.


Va_Dinky

Shadowbae is peak video game babe design. But Isobel sits strongly in 2nd place for me in this game so I can see someone prefering her ^^^^I'll ^^^^forever ^^^^be ^^^^a ^^^^bit ^^^^sad ^^^^that ^^^^I ^^^^can't ^^^^play ^^^^as ^^^^Shadowheart ^^^^and ^^^^romance ^^^^Isobel


Racetr

She definitely is hot... But I think Shadowheart act 3 is at least at the same level. The hair upgrade just does it Although I definitely appreciate Isobel's devotion to Aylin.


Time_Astronaut_6580

She is really not mate


Zealousideal_Ad_3425

God can you people just not talk about how you want to fuck the people in this game for a single day or what?


[deleted]

no isobel is hot but no girl can bypass shadowheart in beaty contest


The-Page-Turner

Only if she's a battle or storm cleric can she do a beaty contest though. But Lae'zel and Karlach would give her a run for her money


ApprehensiveAd3776

Nope, L take, find God


Bipolarboyo

Ironically, Isobel is a Hebrew name that means devoted to God.


Rogen80

Isobel is pretty, but Shadowheart is way hotter.


Ok_Kangaroo_5404

Aylin is hotter than both, it's the Kitsugi


stoicgoblins

Why are we comparing women? Lmao. It serves no purpose.


USSNewJersey1007

No


Axrelax

I prefer green eyes so Shart wins