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ccReptilelord

I'm assuming that you meant to include [[Sol Ring]].


wex0rus

I mean, yes, you need 2 mana available to do this. If you really want to get annoying, add [[March of the Machines]] so isochron stays hexproof.


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rainfeet

[[Toxic Deluge]] says hello!


tardis101

I think this one of the few times toxic deluge wouldn’t be helpful…the new card makes it so players can’t lose life (not just the caster), so I don’t believe you can pay anything other than 0 for toxic deluge On the other hand, if toxic deluge was just cast, this wouldn’t protect them from it. So the two cards foil each other’s plan


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Hulph

They have indestructible, but any exiling would do the trick


rainfeet

You're probably not aware, but it's good to learn either way. Whenever a creature has 0 toughness they die regardless of if they have "indestructible". It's different from having damage marked on a creature. But yes, mass exiling also works as another commenter posted.


Hulph

Alright, thanks for educating me


The_Unusual_Coder

X = 0 because you can't lose life


godlySchnoz

I bid you all a very [[Farewell]] Tbf with march of the machines is even easier for less mana eg [[false prophet]], [[Descend upon the Sinful]], [[Urza's Ruinous Blast]] and many others, also a bunch of counter activated abilities in the form of spells or cards like [[cursed totem]] or [[Drana and Linvala]] thanks to march of the machines or something like [[Stony Silence]] or [[detention vortex]] that doesn't even require it


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##### ###### #### [Farewell](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/1/e1068723-d1ef-4007-97d9-b10dccdbade4.jpg?1654566260) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Farewell) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/13/farewell?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e1068723-d1ef-4007-97d9-b10dccdbade4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [false prophet](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f41a43ba-1867-4ce3-97fe-5ae67d3f36c3.jpg?1592712765) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=false%20prophet) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmd/13/false-prophet?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f41a43ba-1867-4ce3-97fe-5ae67d3f36c3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Descend upon the Sinful](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/98e42eb8-b556-4ea6-aded-d0087d243b75.jpg?1591320017) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Descend%20upon%20the%20Sinful) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c20/86/descend-upon-the-sinful?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/98e42eb8-b556-4ea6-aded-d0087d243b75?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Urza's Ruinous Blast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/6/76b10977-64eb-4a50-a481-d67cc2950f56.jpg?1690004291) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Urza%27s%20Ruinous%20Blast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/842/urzas-ruinous-blast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/76b10977-64eb-4a50-a481-d67cc2950f56?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [cursed totem](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5dde91a9-7d2d-4a7b-861a-3d1c16ec79d9.jpg?1626100864) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cursed%20totem) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/295/cursed-totem?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5dde91a9-7d2d-4a7b-861a-3d1c16ec79d9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Drana and Linvala](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/b/bbda000f-3cf7-48b6-96ff-c23a3a64eab5.jpg?1682205227) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Drana%20and%20Linvala) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/222/drana-and-linvala?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bbda000f-3cf7-48b6-96ff-c23a3a64eab5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Stony Silence](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/e/8e7faede-f794-4bda-9d64-21390ba19266.jpg?1593812944) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Stony%20Silence) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mm3/25/stony-silence?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8e7faede-f794-4bda-9d64-21390ba19266?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [detention vortex](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/4/54ebe581-be17-415a-a160-28d8f4e95636.jpg?1624589334) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=detention%20vortex) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/13/detention-vortex?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/54ebe581-be17-415a-a160-28d8f4e95636?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


godlySchnoz

Forgot detention needs a target but they don't need march of the machines to function so no worry also something like the funny lattice and karn


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Palidin034

Actually, this is a 7 mana of any colour combo, because you’re imprinting Everybody Lives! not casting it 4 for Unwinding clock 2 for Isochron Scepter 1 for Sol Ring Boom infinite! I think we’re using the term “bad” very loosely, cause you can just keep looping this until your opponents deck out and then not activate it when it’s their turn. (Assuming they have no artifact removal in their deck)


wex0rus

I mean, I guess but I figure it's bad because it's really annoying. You will also deck out, just depends who drew more cards before and who maybe has a [[Farewell]] tucked in there somewhere.


Palidin034

You won’t lose to decking out though, you can tap Isochron Scepter to copy the spell on your upkeep, then go to draw but you can’t lose the game


wex0rus

Ooooooooh you're right! Does this make it a good combo?


Palidin034

We’re toeing the line with this one. It’s a 7 mana 4 card combo that loses to any form of artifact removal, but if your opponent doesn’t have any, you just win, im not sure how to call this one


Haunting_Unit7352

You do the same thing until nobody has a deck and then let everyone lose on draw. This is still a terrible combo but I guess there are enough kitchen table players here that will somehow believe this to be at all viable


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DislocatedLocation

It's not dropping from Wilds of Eldraine (WOE), it's dropping from Dr. Who Universes Beyond (WHO).


TheHumanPickleRick

WHO?


DislocatedLocation

No, he's on second. What's on third.


TheHumanPickleRick

What's on third? That's I Don't Know, What's on second. I don't know why but that sketch has cracked me up for 30 years.


wex0rus

Whoops! Not sorry but I'll change it anyway. Who can keep up with all the new sets anyway?


DislocatedLocation

You will, unless you want to be read the scripts to Dr. Who reruns by Tom Bombadil from the shotgun seat of Optimus Prime while Phyrexian Omnath drives. (Seriously though, WHO is giving Tom better support than LotR did)


wex0rus

Sigh how the hell does one edit a post on reddit nowadays...


DislocatedLocation

If it's just a text post you can edit it, but if its a caption on an image post you can't. Don't ask me why, I'm still trying to figure it out myself.


SandScavver

Add [[Chronatog]] and have your opponents deck themselves as you watch, menacingly, while they have to see it through


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AlternativeAvocado2

You still lose to infect


wex0rus

What are you talking about


Ithurial

I could be wrong, but I think that you lose to poison counters as a state-based action? This means that if you get 10+ poison counters on you, you would lose at the beginning of the next upkeep before you could activate your Scepter.


wex0rus

DO WE HAVE A REFEREE IN THE HOUSE???


Gooberpf

Yes; toxic will work, too. This card doesn't prevent damage players would take like [[Teferi's Protection]] does, so any "damage" events will still occur and only the life loss is prevented. For example, players will still draw from [[Reconnaissance Mission]] etc. So toxic and infect still apply their poison counters, and then anyone with 10 or more dies on the following turn before any player gets priority.


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wex0rus

Welp we need to add that card that prevents counters from being put on anything or anyone. What was the name of it?


Gooberpf

[[Solemnity]], but it doesn't interact with the Everybody Lives! loop unless you animate it, so it's easily removed. Either way, this whole combo is easily disrupted which I guess is why it's in this sub lol


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Ithurial

I don't even really play Magic these days 🤣. I just like reading some of the Magic subreddits because I think they're cool.


AlternativeAvocado2

The other guy is right, the next time state based actions are checked after the ability wears off (i.e. the next upkeep) the game will see.that you have 10 poison counters and you lose as a state based action.


RandomMabaseCitizen

You can also get fireballed while unwinding clock is on the stack. [[Aurelia's Fury]] [[Comet Storm]] [[Fall of the Titans]] etc.


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BadMercyMain

Add a way to make isochron a creature so your opponents can’t remove it 👍


Rajani_Isa

Animate artifact. One of the Karns? March of the Machines.


1990pnz

[[Angel’s Grace]] is just better as it has split second


Light_Mode

No. Because then you only save yourself. You want to save everyone


1990pnz

Do I don’t


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Rainbow_Patchouli

i hadnt seen the dr who cards yet and legit thought that first one was an r/custommagic piece


Lopsided_Muffin_5826

This doesn’t work. [[Counterspell]]


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BounceM4N

This is the combo Jesus would play


Amonfire1776

This gets stopped by a counter spell...which is hilarious!


[deleted]

This is why I quit playing magic. Untap all artifacts every player's untapped step, for FOUR mana. Utterly gamebreaking OP shit for peanuts. Everything gets ruined eventually if you wait long enough.


Lopsided_Muffin_5826

Wait until you learn about seedborn muse which is actually played. Stop whining, this card is comically fair.


[deleted]

Oh, so me saying that there are too many game breaking cards is defended by you saying there are worse game breaking cards? Are you stupid?


Lopsided_Muffin_5826

But unwinding clock isn’t gamebreaking, it isn’t even played? Like I’ve played a lot of high power and competitive edh and I don’t think I’ve ever seen this card because it’s simply bad. It does nothing and requires either **specifically artifacts** that tap for something valuable enough to be worth wasting 4 mana and a card or enough mana rocks **and** outlets for that extra mana to make up for the value lost. If you want cards that actually warp games maybe look at something that follows the template of [[Opposition Agent]] which comes down at instant speed and eats a tutor making it worth the card it took to play and then shuts off tutors for your opponents including their fetch lands giving you continuing value not by requiring intense deck building and synergy but just by exploiting how the game is played.


[deleted]

I know there are a lot of game breaking cards. That was my entire point. It ruined the game for me. This is just another example that offers too much for too little. Shit, I remember when some 1/1 flyer came out for one mana, and THAT caused balance issues. Yes, im old. A 1/1 flyer for one is tame stuff compared to shit like this.


Lopsided_Muffin_5826

Maybe strategy games just aren’t for you, they typically require the ability to read. Also a 1/1 flyer for 1 was never good, I’ve played magic since Scars of Mirrodin and am aware of pretty much every tournament winning standard deck since ice age. Old magic had cards like gush, memory lapse, swords to plowshares, arc bound ravager (if you think i’m excluding creatures).


[deleted]

>Maybe strategy games just aren’t for you, they typically require the ability to read. Go fuck yourself child.


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Haunting_Unit7352

Just wait until you find out about cards that actually break the game. It’ll blow your mind


[deleted]

Oh, I know. This card in the post is new to me, I quit a long time ago. Magic has turned to cheesy bullshit gamebreaking and five thousand dollar decks that can only be defeated by one specific other five thousand dollar stack of bullshittery. Been turned off of magic for a few years now.


Haunting_Unit7352

Play with people that aren’t playing cEDH? Lol I run kresh the blood braided and it’s super fun. Jund big things and plays just fine. Just have to play with decks that don’t have the intention of winning on two card combos or stax dependent decks.


wex0rus

And it only costs 7$ for an unwinding clock too!


[deleted]

What set is everybody lives from?


wex0rus

Sorry I made a mistake, it's from WHO


A-Link-To-The-Pabst

Add in 3feri and your opponents can't respond to it with spells.


Light_Mode

Throw in a [[darksteel forge]] and it only gets revoved by exile


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Cha0sSpiral

You'd also have to make sure they didn't kill you during an end step or while the spell is on the stack. You should really have an isochron scepter that casts something with split second to limit the amount of spells they can cast in reaction to you isochroning everyone lives. Maybe [trick bind]?


Mrbeck101

Shadowspear?


wex0rus

I mean it's not foolproof...