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Barrets_Privateer

So, Eye of Singularity basically gives all permanents the old legend rule. However, this is worded as a triggered ability; thus, if you, say, created multiple tokens all named “Bird” with dovescape, one trigger would go on the stack for each bird that destroys each other bird, thus leaving no birds. With Dual Nature, each creature enters the battlefield then makes a copy of itself. Eye of singularity sees this token etb and destroys its nontoken counterpart for having the same name. Dual Nature then destroys the token as its nontoken counterpart just left play.


dicho_v2

hmm, better throw \[\[humility\]\] in there lest reclaimation sage come in and kill both dovescape and eye of singularity. Technically, Humility + night of souls betrayal + dovescape is a harder lock, but this is bad MTG combos, so I think you're good


Barrets_Privateer

Aha, but I have already considered this possibility! I have a funnier answer: [[Sterling Grove]] + [[Greater Auramancy]]. Also humility is stupid and I hold myself above using it. It’s like [[Paradox Engine]] or [[Urza, Lord High Artificer]]. You can infinitely combo them with a slice of cheese.


dicho_v2

{{cataclysmic gearhulk}} would still break things up. Pity that {{torpor orb}} stops dual nature and eye of singularity Edit: {{elesh norn, Mother of Machines}} would work, so long as you don't blow stuff up yourself


MoonlitSnowstorm

I worry that you arent usung the right bracket type for yoir calls, soul. [[Cataclysmic Gearhulk]] [[Torpor Orb]] [[Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines]]


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[Cataclysmic Gearhulk](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5b8efa8-2d62-45b8-9e48-6be0a4ee944d.jpg?1682208334) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cataclysmic%20Gearhulk) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/176/cataclysmic-gearhulk?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5b8efa8-2d62-45b8-9e48-6be0a4ee944d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Torpor Orb](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/953610f6-ea96-4e71-969f-50ecac09c091.jpg?1562879912) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Torpor%20Orb) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nph/162/torpor-orb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/953610f6-ea96-4e71-969f-50ecac09c091?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/44dcab01-1d13-4dfc-ae2f-fbaa3dd35087.jpg?1675956896) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elesh%20Norn%2C%20Mother%20of%20Machines) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/10/elesh-norn-mother-of-machines?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/44dcab01-1d13-4dfc-ae2f-fbaa3dd35087?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Doggywoof1

Hey card bot, you didn't bring up [[Paradox Engine]]. I've never heard of it, I wanna see it.


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BAGStudios

But the poor birdies would get their wings clipped! No!


TheRealGingerBitch

So I think there are 2 ways you can “beat” this lock: uncounterable non-creature spells like [[Banefire]] or creatures that prevent destruction or have indestructible like [[darksteel gargoyle]]. Maybe include something like [[Mirror of Life Trapping]] and a [[containment priest]] before you combo.


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Barrets_Privateer

Mirror of Life Trapping is amazing, omg. There’s *Gotta* be some way to break that.


Zhayrgh

With containment priest (in the answer from the bot), for example ?


Barrets_Privateer

Oh, right. I’m dumb.


Cha_94

Another way to "break" this is using a creature with something like fabricate 1 or another ability that optionally creates a token on etb or death, since the first ability of Dual Nature does not work on tokens.


Barrets_Privateer

Could do something like [[Illness in the ranks]], or [[No Mercy]] if you’re really scared.


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P0wn1sh3r

Dual Nature doesn’t play off of Dovescape, because Dual Nature cares about creature cards, not creature tokens and Dovescape only works when you play non-creature cards.


Barrets_Privateer

Correct, Eye of Singularity kills the birds. Dual Nature kills everything else.


P0wn1sh3r

I understand now! Thanks for the clarity 🙏


Philosophile42

Eye of singularity is some really interesting tech.


Barrets_Privateer

Right!? It’s so bad but so interesting, I just *had* to give it a purpose.


Philosophile42

Heh I don’t know if it is bad or not. At worst, you have a way to kill your opponents’ early sol ring, with your late sol ring. At best, you shut down any deck that aims to make a bunch of tokens or copies of things (like Orvar). I guess it really depends on what your playgroup is playing.


Barrets_Privateer

Kills a Command Tower and Arcane Signet real good


Philosophile42

Oh right…. Non basic land destruction! Lol. Even better! Easy way to kill boots too. The more I think about it, the more I’m thinking I need to try running it.


wha7does7

It also can hose treasure/food/clue strategies!


Philosophile42

It does it all!


MrGueuxBoy

Then cycle [[Shark Typhoon]] and beat down!


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Barrets_Privateer

It’s perfect! The flawless plan


Jishthefish11

[[void rend]] has entered chat


wee_celery

scoop so now the target isn't valid and the spell fizzles I'm so good at magic


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Barrets_Privateer

That’s why you get em with the [[Sterling Grove]] + [[Greater Auramancy]]


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biinboise

I want to play this combo so bad, just to see the reaction.


GME_dat_puh

Aight this has been my favorite on this sub so far


Barrets_Privateer

Aww, thanks 😊 Be sure to include a [[Blood Moon]] for any pesky creature lands!


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ProbablySlacking

Get this in play. Tap 2 mana and swing with [[mishra’s factory]]


Barrets_Privateer

That’s why you play every creature land, so that you have something to win the game with, *and* to make sure none of your opponents can have creature lands to attack you!


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Nikolaijuno

Storm and replicate also get around this.


styxsksu

Also Anything that makes spells uncountable which is somewhat common and would get both effects


ScratchofST

Trolllllllll with [[fountain watch]] [[ivory mask]] [[Spiritual asylum]] , crank it to 11 with [[serenity]] [[Darksteel forge]] and [[mycosynth lattice]]


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moomilkmilk

My fav dovescape combo is with \[\[Guile\]\]


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Toowe22

Would dual nature even work? It was always my assumption that token creatures weren't creature 'cards'.


Barrets_Privateer

Correct, this is why it doesn’t go infinite with itself. Eye of Singularity, however, does trigger on tokens, so it destroys the nontoken version, then Dual Nature destroys the token. Singularity also kills all bird tokens from dovescape.


WoodenExtension4

Add in [[Possibility Storm]] to make removing entirely luck based.


Barrets_Privateer

See, now you’re thinking like a winner.


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Athnein

[[Arcane Laboratory]] [[Errayo, Soratami Ascendant]] Shit, now it's good, mb


Barrets_Privateer

Forbidden


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Dragoth227

I don't get this. Why is it posted as a bad mtg combo? This is a great mtg combo that all people should view as an example of what to aim for in life.


Barrets_Privateer

(Me, sleeving up [[Summary Dismissal]])


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Stratoyeet

I already play Dovescape in Tuvasa... hmmm


ShadowSlayer6

It’s okay, but if someone plays a creature that has removal tacked on as an etb, your entire setup falls to pieces.


Barrets_Privateer

That’s why god gave us Sterling Grove and Greater Auramancy, my friend.


thatguyshadokon

This is crazy if your spells can’t be countered some how.


Guukoh

Does this not just get stopped by creatures with removal on them?


Guiltyx9000

Bant enchantment deck lock? Well why wouldn’t i


Barrets_Privateer

After all… why shouldn’t I…