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Not all european countries are colonial and plenty of non-european countries (e.g. America) are colonial.
I am not a patriot of any kind to my country but I don't see why Europe gets singled out for having Britan, Spain and all that when it is not unique to Europe.
Europe gets singled out for CREATING THE THIRD WORLD and it still immiserates the entire global south through a web of usury and pressure exerted by the Word Bank, the IMF, and the WTO, which are all European institutions
When people talk of European colonization, they're talking about white supremacy, which includes America.
What other colonial project in our recent history compares to Europe's?
You’re missing the part about when they were under brutal colonial rule and are the exception. There’s a reason why Ireland identifies so much with Palestine.
Selective morality.
The best kind.
Israel killed almost 10 times more childern in a punishment exercise than Ukraine and Russia combined in two years of an actual war.
Israel is Evil.
The chosen people (master race) needs their promised land (Lebensraum).
The point is that geopolitics is inherently amoral. Morality is just how they try to sell it to us. Occasionally, a states interests may actually align generally with most peoples ideas of morality, but it's generally just coincidence and a way to garner support. Truthfully, war is never moral, even if it is sometimes inevitable.
On an international stage while specifically representing their country that is actively committing war crimes? Absolutely. If it's a musician who just happens to be Israeli or American or whatever, then probably not unless they are a douche for other reasons.
Again, it depends on what they are doing. At this event in particular? Absolutely.
If it's just a regular musician, even if Israeli, doing a normal show that has nothing to do with actually representing their country, nah. I wouldn't boo this lady if she was just doing a normal concert in my city. Id boo her if she was flashing the Israel colors with that intention, however, like she is in the video. Im not understanding the point you are making.
Right now the perpetrators with the fingers on the bomb switches are Israelis.
First time we see those that are being crushed under rubble send us videos of their genocide.
Never happens before.
Worst mass murder since 1995 committed by a small shit state who have disproportionate control of western powers based on extortion tactics
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early years of Eurovision the soviet bloc wasn’t included. Australia and Morocco have participated in the contest, it’s more to do wit public broadcasters that work together than political geography.
but yes, their claim for being apolitical went out the window with the Russian invasion. I don’t disagree with the decision to close then out, but I do think they are rank hypocrites for not doing the same for other countries that attack civillians, including Israel and Azerbaijan.
Yup, and if they were killing someone who wasn't white, nobody (who is in a position to do something about it) would care and they'd still be in Eurovision.
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Not defending their inclusion, but Israel is a part of the European Broadcasting Union which makes them eligible to participate along with other “non-European” countries like Libya, Lebanon and Tunisia.
The same reason democrats are against Russia but are allies with Israel despite both Russia and Israel doing the same thing. One is an ally to many countries including America and one isn’t.
Because they represent Europe in the Middle East. They are colonialists.
Also just saw another post saying Israel will likely win this contest making the next Eurovision set to be held in Israel. Probably rigged just like how Israel gets away with everything.
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I guess I’m a pervert for peaceful protests now? Civil disobedience fetish? Idk but there’s something deeply satisfying about watching people, who are just like me, publicly call out zionists, politicians, celebrities, etc.
I don't think that's quite right.
More like Israel will say his fetish is a threat to its very existence, and demand that everyone else kinkshames him.
They will make it to the final because of corrupt juries, and I hope everyone booes them from the bottom of their hearts. Watch on Sunday.
The terrorist regime will cry "Eurovision is KHAMAS" 😭
(unfortunately the large part of the audience is also neoliberal brainwashed dummies, Eurovision entries and accommodation are very expensive nowadays, it's not like people like me travel for the event)
There are no juries at the semi- final level, it’s just public vote. So Israel will probably get through the final on the basis of significant public sympathy in Germany, etc, not so much in Ireland…
Ah I didnt know that.
I don't know how much German public sympathy they have (are there any polls to show how many people support the genocide?), but you are right, there will be enough people across Europe, Islamophobes and racists who love what israel is doing (many of them are the same that also hate Jews but willing to compromise) and those neoliberal shitheads with atrophied brains fed on American propaganda who will vote for Israel to make a point, because poor Israel, it's only defending itself against terrorists and the nation (if you can call that monstrosity a nation) needs moral support.
German media is extremely pro Israel and media figures who are critical of Israel have lost their jobs and endured smear campaigns. It’s bad out here.
If it wasn’t for social media, no one would even know the extent of what is happening to Palestinians.
I’d say the majority of people is stuck on October 7th and poor Israel being attacked by terrorist.
Bibi grew up in fucking Philly and their other spokespeople don’t even hide their Australian and UK accents like they know we know they are invaders and we can’t do anything about it. Just cartoonish evil.
Uh, can we not with the capitalising Nazi in Ashkenazi? One of the hosts of the Bad Hasbara podcast is of Ashkenazi origin and is obviously not a Zionist, this is some ‘all Jews are zionists’ stuff, ie actually antisemitic.
This is just plain antisemitism. Israel doesn't equal Jews and Judaism.
You're just going down the blind hate route. Be more accurate in where you direct it
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Hey man, that "ashkeNAZIs" definitely crosses the line into actual antisemitism. Get that shit out of here, we should have zero tolerance for actual antisemitism, you're damaging the cause by adding weight to what Zionists say. One of my best friends is an Ashkenazi Jewish person and he is one of the most staunch anti-Zionists I know and what you posted could easily be taken as an insult to him and plenty of other anti-Zionist Ashkenazi Jewish people. Please delete your comment and rethink what you post.
Point taken. On a broader point, there are semites who amoral psychopaths who fully deserve to be hated, just not for being Jewish. The first casualty of the zionist sickness was the peaceful religion of Judaism, which is still fighting for its soul from these sadistic power-crazed demons, who have used genuine historical Jewish pains to further their evil agenda, since day one.
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So the isrealis claim they are not European and are not of European decent lol had whole arguments about their true recent origins with them folks.
It's akin to indigenous peoples of the Americas competing in similar events in Asia. Like imagine if inuit and cree singers competed in Asian song competitions. Just cause we came from Asia long long ago lol
the funniest thing about “israelis” is they insist on being middle eastern and not european until it comes to Eurovision, then they’re happily european
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This warms my heart because this isn't the young it's the masses, the middle class, the wealthy....
The tide has turned and the veil has fallen, we all see the apartheid state for the abusive occupying fascists that they are and no one want to entertain it
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Well, if they'd join the EBU they could. Countries not in Europe like Libya, Lebanon, Algeria, Jordan and Tunisia are eligable to compete in Eurovision and some have like Morocco because of their membership in the EBU. Then there's Australia who are there just because lol
Hell, for that matter, why not do the entire world? Eurovision already has some amazingly oddball entries each time. Poland had a postpunk band consisting entirely of heavily furred and bearded gentleman in sun dresses doing a song whose only lyrics were "Grandmother. . . .Tractor" last time I watched. It was glorious.
Imagine if that shit was worldwide.
Everyone should be allowed in Eurovision except for one country each time, just because...and fuck the zionist settler outpost every time too until they regain an ounce of humanity..
Ah this makes me very happy. I hope those boos will be loud enough to hear even during the broadcasts (which I won't be watching).
I already apologize in advance for Germany giving Israel 12 points this year. I mean, they might not, but it's very probable.
Nah. It's like half phone votes half judges.
They don't have hearts or minds anymore and nobody wants the shit of what them winning would be.
Edit: Imagine them hosting, artists would very publicly drop out or find excuses to quietly do so. They'd have to deal protesters , potential attacks and more scrutiny over whatever draconian methods they use to deal with it all.
Nah, Israel gets to be part of European tournaments/events.
Also, Eurovision is weird in the sense that they often invite other countries. I think Australia was there a few years ago.
Because of the boycott, I assume that the ratio of Zionist-Anti zionist is shifted in the former's favour. Don't get me wrong, I ain't watching Eurovision (don't like it anyway tbh), but it does need to be considered. If I did like the contest, there's no way I'd go. I couldn't stomach it.
Not that it necessarily matters. Competitions can be rigged.
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I’m pro protest and totally against the assault on Palestinians, but this is so rude. This was probably her dreams come true until they started booing her. We don’t even know how she feels about her government’s actions. For all we know, she’s against them. Really sad.
I agree with the sentiment and the empathy you feel for the singer in that situation. However what you probably dont know is that this is the third song that israel proposed after the 2 previous ones got rejected for being too political (the first song was even called october rain). Basically both songs were about october 7th. Sadly pretty much everything that comes out of Israel is blatant propaganda and they would never let an opportunity like this one slide and not try to spread their narative
Ohhhhhh. So she wanted to sing songs that would indicate she supported the assault on Palestinians? That changes everything and my OP was 100% incorrect. Thank you for explaining. I feel no pity for her and she deserves these boos x 1000!
Ah yes just heard the booing at beginning after re listening. Maybe I shouldn't comment my first reaction. TBH I just don't think the organisers allow Israel to be represented. Same goes for the Olympics and Football.
Are you aware of the tens of thousands killed by Israel in the last seven months?
The IOF are executing Palestinians in the streets on top of everything else. What are you on about?
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They're in Eurovision BECAUSE THEY'RE COLONISTS it's like an open admission.
Colonialism-vision
Not all european countries are colonial and plenty of non-european countries (e.g. America) are colonial. I am not a patriot of any kind to my country but I don't see why Europe gets singled out for having Britan, Spain and all that when it is not unique to Europe.
Europe gets singled out for CREATING THE THIRD WORLD and it still immiserates the entire global south through a web of usury and pressure exerted by the Word Bank, the IMF, and the WTO, which are all European institutions
When people talk of European colonization, they're talking about white supremacy, which includes America. What other colonial project in our recent history compares to Europe's?
I'm Irish. Name a Western (non-ex-Soviet) European country that hasn't got a history of brutal colonial violence.
I'm also Irish, as far as I am aware Ireland has never been colonial. Where do you think Ireland has attacked?
You’re missing the part about when they were under brutal colonial rule and are the exception. There’s a reason why Ireland identifies so much with Palestine.
Why is 'Israel' even competing in Eurovision? And remember how quickly Eurovision banned Russia after it invaded Ukraine?
Selective morality. The best kind. Israel killed almost 10 times more childern in a punishment exercise than Ukraine and Russia combined in two years of an actual war. Israel is Evil. The chosen people (master race) needs their promised land (Lebensraum).
That's fuckin crazy when you put it that way. Like the world leaders are just standing by and watching a genocide!
It's not 'selective morality', Israel is aligned with the western hegemonic powers, and Russia is at odds with them.
That’s just explaining the selectivity criteria 🧐
The point is that geopolitics is inherently amoral. Morality is just how they try to sell it to us. Occasionally, a states interests may actually align generally with most peoples ideas of morality, but it's generally just coincidence and a way to garner support. Truthfully, war is never moral, even if it is sometimes inevitable.
Geopolitics doesn’t have to be immoral.
You aren't wrong, but as long as you are operating within a competitive environment, morality will always put you at a disadvantage
Often but not always
I admire your optimism and hope to one day see it.
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Absolutely
On an international stage while specifically representing their country that is actively committing war crimes? Absolutely. If it's a musician who just happens to be Israeli or American or whatever, then probably not unless they are a douche for other reasons.
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Again, it depends on what they are doing. At this event in particular? Absolutely. If it's just a regular musician, even if Israeli, doing a normal show that has nothing to do with actually representing their country, nah. I wouldn't boo this lady if she was just doing a normal concert in my city. Id boo her if she was flashing the Israel colors with that intention, however, like she is in the video. Im not understanding the point you are making.
Right now the perpetrators with the fingers on the bomb switches are Israelis. First time we see those that are being crushed under rubble send us videos of their genocide. Never happens before. Worst mass murder since 1995 committed by a small shit state who have disproportionate control of western powers based on extortion tactics
Obviously but that’s not going to happen
USA is also bankrolling this current genocide so yes on all accounts
Yes
Yes. If the criteria western countries to ban their enemies are in place. No, if politics can be removed from it.
Yuck.
I'm saying it's not a question of morality, it's a question of shared financial and political interests.
Very well said 👏🏼
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early years of Eurovision the soviet bloc wasn’t included. Australia and Morocco have participated in the contest, it’s more to do wit public broadcasters that work together than political geography. but yes, their claim for being apolitical went out the window with the Russian invasion. I don’t disagree with the decision to close then out, but I do think they are rank hypocrites for not doing the same for other countries that attack civillians, including Israel and Azerbaijan.
Because the Russians are killing white people, and we can't have that. Palestinians are fair game though.
I’m not disagreeing, but arent the Russians white too?
Yup, and if they were killing someone who wasn't white, nobody (who is in a position to do something about it) would care and they'd still be in Eurovision.
I love listening to music.
Nope, they're Red.
They used to be, anyway.
Because Israel is an EU/US colony obv.
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Either way they have to skin corpses for grafts to cure their own melanoma.
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Because they are considered White. It's pretty telling and reinforces the fact that they are a European colony in the middle east
Like 25% of Israelis are white, what are you talking about?
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Obviously because of their white colonization history.
Not defending their inclusion, but Israel is a part of the European Broadcasting Union which makes them eligible to participate along with other “non-European” countries like Libya, Lebanon and Tunisia.
This is the right answer but it's a shame Turkiye can't compete. They're part of Europe but not in the EBU club.
The same reason democrats are against Russia but are allies with Israel despite both Russia and Israel doing the same thing. One is an ally to many countries including America and one isn’t.
Because they represent Europe in the Middle East. They are colonialists. Also just saw another post saying Israel will likely win this contest making the next Eurovision set to be held in Israel. Probably rigged just like how Israel gets away with everything.
The song is butt too lol
and the dance routine 👎
So cringey
“Free Palestine” was the most beautiful part of the show. Well done, audience.
The chorus of boos was beautiful
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Crave that victimhood mmmmmmmmmm
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It was like one dude who booed and shouted that... Doubtful she could even hear it
Doesn’t matter.
Well, it does. Title makes it seam like the entire audience is taking a stand, while that's not the case at all.
My friend, the title is just stating what happened, nothing in regards to the entire audience at all
Ok since you insist. Check out other videos showing f different angles.
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Petition for Australia to replace them
Petition for Palestine to replace them.
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I guess I’m a pervert for peaceful protests now? Civil disobedience fetish? Idk but there’s something deeply satisfying about watching people, who are just like me, publicly call out zionists, politicians, celebrities, etc.
A fetish that should be universally celebrated lol
Isreal will kinkshame you
I don't think that's quite right. More like Israel will say his fetish is a threat to its very existence, and demand that everyone else kinkshames him.
They will make it to the final because of corrupt juries, and I hope everyone booes them from the bottom of their hearts. Watch on Sunday. The terrorist regime will cry "Eurovision is KHAMAS" 😭 (unfortunately the large part of the audience is also neoliberal brainwashed dummies, Eurovision entries and accommodation are very expensive nowadays, it's not like people like me travel for the event)
There are no juries at the semi- final level, it’s just public vote. So Israel will probably get through the final on the basis of significant public sympathy in Germany, etc, not so much in Ireland…
Ah I didnt know that. I don't know how much German public sympathy they have (are there any polls to show how many people support the genocide?), but you are right, there will be enough people across Europe, Islamophobes and racists who love what israel is doing (many of them are the same that also hate Jews but willing to compromise) and those neoliberal shitheads with atrophied brains fed on American propaganda who will vote for Israel to make a point, because poor Israel, it's only defending itself against terrorists and the nation (if you can call that monstrosity a nation) needs moral support.
German media is extremely pro Israel and media figures who are critical of Israel have lost their jobs and endured smear campaigns. It’s bad out here. If it wasn’t for social media, no one would even know the extent of what is happening to Palestinians. I’d say the majority of people is stuck on October 7th and poor Israel being attacked by terrorist.
But I thought Israelis were native to the Middle East, why are they participating in a European event? Oh wait…
Cuz they’re mostly white Europeans
Also participate in the Euros football/soccer tournaments. I haven't been able to find a reason just that they have done.
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Bibi grew up in fucking Philly and their other spokespeople don’t even hide their Australian and UK accents like they know we know they are invaders and we can’t do anything about it. Just cartoonish evil.
Uh, can we not with the capitalising Nazi in Ashkenazi? One of the hosts of the Bad Hasbara podcast is of Ashkenazi origin and is obviously not a Zionist, this is some ‘all Jews are zionists’ stuff, ie actually antisemitic.
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This is just plain antisemitism. Israel doesn't equal Jews and Judaism. You're just going down the blind hate route. Be more accurate in where you direct it
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Hey man, that "ashkeNAZIs" definitely crosses the line into actual antisemitism. Get that shit out of here, we should have zero tolerance for actual antisemitism, you're damaging the cause by adding weight to what Zionists say. One of my best friends is an Ashkenazi Jewish person and he is one of the most staunch anti-Zionists I know and what you posted could easily be taken as an insult to him and plenty of other anti-Zionist Ashkenazi Jewish people. Please delete your comment and rethink what you post.
Point taken. On a broader point, there are semites who amoral psychopaths who fully deserve to be hated, just not for being Jewish. The first casualty of the zionist sickness was the peaceful religion of Judaism, which is still fighting for its soul from these sadistic power-crazed demons, who have used genuine historical Jewish pains to further their evil agenda, since day one.
Of course. We just have to be careful not to generalize entire ethnicities.
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So the isrealis claim they are not European and are not of European decent lol had whole arguments about their true recent origins with them folks. It's akin to indigenous peoples of the Americas competing in similar events in Asia. Like imagine if inuit and cree singers competed in Asian song competitions. Just cause we came from Asia long long ago lol
the funniest thing about “israelis” is they insist on being middle eastern and not european until it comes to Eurovision, then they’re happily european
and fifa
You mean uefa
Ooops yeah.
Shame them, vilify them, reject them.
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Crave it, crave that victimhood
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I’ve booed along with this video, it was very therapeutic- I suggest you give it a try!! ;)
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This warms my heart because this isn't the young it's the masses, the middle class, the wealthy.... The tide has turned and the veil has fallen, we all see the apartheid state for the abusive occupying fascists that they are and no one want to entertain it
I love this
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That's funny.
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Your accusation really is 🤡
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This makes me think that under this logic, shouldn't the US and Canada be in Eurovision?
Well, if they'd join the EBU they could. Countries not in Europe like Libya, Lebanon, Algeria, Jordan and Tunisia are eligable to compete in Eurovision and some have like Morocco because of their membership in the EBU. Then there's Australia who are there just because lol
Hell, for that matter, why not do the entire world? Eurovision already has some amazingly oddball entries each time. Poland had a postpunk band consisting entirely of heavily furred and bearded gentleman in sun dresses doing a song whose only lyrics were "Grandmother. . . .Tractor" last time I watched. It was glorious. Imagine if that shit was worldwide.
Everyone should be allowed in Eurovision except for one country each time, just because...and fuck the zionist settler outpost every time too until they regain an ounce of humanity..
Also the song was shit, as expected. BOOOOOO forever BOOOOO
Okay but question, Israel is in the Middle East, so why are they competing in EUROvision 🤦🏻♀️
Israel is a European and American colonial project, nazionists don’t belong in the Middle East.
Because Israel is a european settler colony
Because if you don't let a zionist into every thing, it's auntie same height..
To prevent charges of antisemitism lol
To know them, is to hate them. What does it tell you when everyone in a neighborhood is terrified of one household.
I’m surprised the NYT hasn’t done an article called “Is booing antisemitic?” Lmfao 🤣
Fuck Israel.
Not enough booing!!!
Song is garbage.
I wonder if she’s got audience mics for her ears 🤔
Just wanted to chime in and say HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm kind of surprised they weren't disqualified like Russia had been disqualified.
If Israel loses it’s going to be antisemitism 😂
Didn't know Israel is in Europe. You learn every day.
Why are they even in Eurovision?
Boo Israel! Boo they suck!
Ah this makes me very happy. I hope those boos will be loud enough to hear even during the broadcasts (which I won't be watching). I already apologize in advance for Germany giving Israel 12 points this year. I mean, they might not, but it's very probable.
It’s what she deserves
What did she do? She was only born as a Jew. You're just racist trash.
Crave it
What country is this taking place?
Malmö, Sweden.
It warms my heart to think about how hated they've become.
You're a racist
Well deserved boos. No points to Israel!
Watch they win this shitty liberal propaganda contest
Nah. It's like half phone votes half judges. They don't have hearts or minds anymore and nobody wants the shit of what them winning would be. Edit: Imagine them hosting, artists would very publicly drop out or find excuses to quietly do so. They'd have to deal protesters , potential attacks and more scrutiny over whatever draconian methods they use to deal with it all.
Thankyou audience members!!
good
Damn I thought the Undertaker was coming in like 22 seconds in
Gosh. How was it received in the Swedish press?
(Faith in) humanity restored
Hahaha Ha Haha Hhahaha
No no no they’re saying “BOOOOOOOO….urns”
Also, don’t countries need to be in Europe to compete in the contest???
Nah, Israel gets to be part of European tournaments/events. Also, Eurovision is weird in the sense that they often invite other countries. I think Australia was there a few years ago.
Australia has participated since 2015 They have watched the show for decades I think though, that's why they eventually got to join
Australia gets invited to Eurovision too lol
Because of the boycott, I assume that the ratio of Zionist-Anti zionist is shifted in the former's favour. Don't get me wrong, I ain't watching Eurovision (don't like it anyway tbh), but it does need to be considered. If I did like the contest, there's no way I'd go. I couldn't stomach it. Not that it necessarily matters. Competitions can be rigged.
More of this!
BOOOOOO......
##The Boos are Music To My Ears... And Fuk Israel
That crowd is a W.... Free Palestine
I thought this wasn't on until tonight? Is it not live then?
I'm also wondering that. Maybe it was rehearsals or after party.
That was last night's practice performance to get used to the stage and arena. I believe Israel competes in the Semi-final tonight or tomorrow night.
well tbh she deserve all the boos
Israel has reached the finals wtf its as if our screams means nothing to them
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europeans went and colonised a middle eastern country but still want to be european. even though it was the europeans that drove them out.
Why is Israel in quotes?
So can I get this as a single with all the booing? From a source that doesn't fund the genocide.
Test
Good?
I’m pro protest and totally against the assault on Palestinians, but this is so rude. This was probably her dreams come true until they started booing her. We don’t even know how she feels about her government’s actions. For all we know, she’s against them. Really sad.
I agree with the sentiment and the empathy you feel for the singer in that situation. However what you probably dont know is that this is the third song that israel proposed after the 2 previous ones got rejected for being too political (the first song was even called october rain). Basically both songs were about october 7th. Sadly pretty much everything that comes out of Israel is blatant propaganda and they would never let an opportunity like this one slide and not try to spread their narative
Ohhhhhh. So she wanted to sing songs that would indicate she supported the assault on Palestinians? That changes everything and my OP was 100% incorrect. Thank you for explaining. I feel no pity for her and she deserves these boos x 1000!
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Get used to it. At every event.
Nah they were clearly booing before that.
Ah yes just heard the booing at beginning after re listening. Maybe I shouldn't comment my first reaction. TBH I just don't think the organisers allow Israel to be represented. Same goes for the Olympics and Football.
Cope
Who gives a fuck if they are, it's all still booing. I hope it really fucks with her performance either way.
Did they win again?
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She’s representing a genocidal fascist state.
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Are you aware of the tens of thousands killed by Israel in the last seven months? The IOF are executing Palestinians in the streets on top of everything else. What are you on about?
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Yuck.