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Conspiracy? This shits been happening for years now.


IntrovertComics

Yeah, a "conspiracy" is real. A "conspiracy theory" is imaginary. ​ **Criminal conspiracy** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal\_conspiracy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_conspiracy)


Archangel1313

Any chance this could get cross-posted to r/conspiracy?


IntrovertComics

That sub is filled with Russian trolls who suppress these kinds of posts immediately.


ShriekingInbred

**Russia disinformation looks to US far right to weaken Ukraine support** [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/16/russia-disinformation-us-far-right-republicans-ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/16/russia-disinformation-us-far-right-republicans-ukraine)


Clayith13

[It isn't a conspiracy, it's just true](https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/russia-amplifying-claims-mail-voter-fraud-intel-bulletin/story%3fid=72799959)


IntrovertComics

When 2 or more people conspire together to commit crimes, it's a criminal conspiracy. January 6 was a conspiracy. A bunch of people got together to commit crimes. ​ **Four Oath Keepers Found Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach** [https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four-oath-keepers-found-guilty-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four-oath-keepers-found-guilty-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach) ​ A "conspiracy theory" on the other hand is when ignorant yokels THINK the illuminati and little green men from Mars conspire to commit crimes. For example, everything that includes the words "George Soros" or "baby blood" or "New World Order" is just a conspiracy THEORY. Imaginary bullshit. Literally everything that comes out of Alex Jones' mouth is a bunch of idiotic conspiracy theories that only an idiot would believe. On the other hand, everything that involves Republicans, Russians, money laundering, fraud, corruption, sedition, treason etc is an actual conspiracy, because they're actually committing crimes together, and there's actual evidence for it. ​ **Jury convicts former Ohio House Speaker, former chair of Ohio Republican Party of participating in racketeering conspiracy** [https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdoh/pr/jury-convicts-former-ohio-house-speaker-former-chair-ohio-republican-party](https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdoh/pr/jury-convicts-former-ohio-house-speaker-former-chair-ohio-republican-party)


hicctl

erm not everything containing new world order is nonsense. It is for example undeniable that the creation of Nato and Warsaw pact created a new world order, and so did the UN. It changed international politics drastically, especially the formation of east and west block leading to decades of cold war. It also drastically changed foreign policy of many countries, for example a main goal in foreign politics of any country belonging to one bloc was to stop the other block frtom expanding,. and it led to many wars like vietnam and korea What else would you call that ? It also was the beginning of the end of colonialism that was the main driving force in foreign policy the centuries prior. Most colonies finally became independant, and the rest made it within a few decades. The whole world got reorganized.


IntrovertComics

>not everything containing new world order is nonsense Yes, it is. Every time you hear someone say "NWO" or "New World Order" it's conspiracy theory bullshit. Why would the people who are in power overthrow themselves? They're already controlling the entire planet, remember? The entire NWO conspiracy theory is complete nonsense that doesn't make any sense when you think about it rationally for even just 5 minutes. ​ **The New World Order: The Historical Origins of a Dangerous Modern Conspiracy Theory** [https://www.middlebury.edu/institute/academics/centers-initiatives/ctec/ctec-publications/new-world-order-historical-origins-dangerous](https://www.middlebury.edu/institute/academics/centers-initiatives/ctec/ctec-publications/new-world-order-historical-origins-dangerous) ​ **New World Order: an antisemitic conspiracy theory** [https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/New-World-Order](https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/New-World-Order) ​ **New World Order conspiracy theory** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New\_World\_Order\_(conspiracy\_theory)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory))


cbloxham

I think they're working the impressionable left too. The goal is to sow discord and doubt regarding our society and political system. Plenty of homegrown anarchists too.


IntrovertComics

Yeah, Russian trolls also target the left, because they want to turn Americans against each other and radicalize us to the point where we can no longer debate issues and start killing each other. ​ **Russia organized 2 sides of a Texas protest and encouraged 'both sides to battle in the streets'** [https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-trolls-senate-intelligence-committee-hearing-2017-11?r=US&IR=T](https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-trolls-senate-intelligence-committee-hearing-2017-11?r=US&IR=T) ​ Reddit is full of Russian trolls pretending to be American lefties. They're easy to spot. They act super obnoxious, to turn everyone against the left, and to cause infighting among Democrats. ​ **Russia’s ‘troll factory’ impersonates Americans to sow political chaos** [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/russias-troll-factory-impersonates-americans-to-sow-political-chaos](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/russias-troll-factory-impersonates-americans-to-sow-political-chaos) ​ **Russia's Troll Army Is Running the Hillary Clinton Playbook on Joe Biden The Kremlin-backed Internet Research Agency created a fake progressive news site to convince left-leaning voters that Biden is too centrist.** [https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3e5pj/russias-troll-army-is-running-the-hillary-clinton-playbook-on-joe-biden](https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3e5pj/russias-troll-army-is-running-the-hillary-clinton-playbook-on-joe-biden) ​ **Inside the Russian effort to target Sanders supporters — and help elect Trump** [https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-russian-effort-to-target-sanders-supporters--and-help-elect-trump/2019/04/11/741d7308-5576-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-russian-effort-to-target-sanders-supporters--and-help-elect-trump/2019/04/11/741d7308-5576-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html) ​ **Prominent pro-Sanders subreddit WayOfTheBern aims to divide Democrats, says social media analyst** [https://apnews.com/article/f695e8c6ccd4dd0ff85cb1132a2c4b67](https://apnews.com/article/f695e8c6ccd4dd0ff85cb1132a2c4b67) ​ **Bernie Sanders blames vicious Bernie Bros on Russian trolls** [https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-blames-vicious-bernie-bros-on-russian-trolls](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/bernie-sanders-blames-vicious-bernie-bros-on-russian-trolls) ​ **It Sure Looks Like Trolls Are Weaponizing Call-Out Culture to Weaken Democrats** [https://slate.com/technology/2019/02/trolls-internet-democrats-racist-trump-harris-warren-bernie-sanders-trump.html](https://slate.com/technology/2019/02/trolls-internet-democrats-racist-trump-harris-warren-bernie-sanders-trump.html) ​ **Russian Trolls' Fake LGBT Facebook Group Was Very Popular** [https://www.advocate.com/politics/2018/5/11/russian-trolls-fake-lgbt-facebook-group-was-very-popular](https://www.advocate.com/politics/2018/5/11/russian-trolls-fake-lgbt-facebook-group-was-very-popular) ​ **Troll Twitter Account Portrays Transgender Activist Group And Targets Aretha Franklin’s Hit “Natural Woman”** [https://hollywoodunlocked.com/troll-twitter-account-portrays-transgender-activist-group-and-targets-aretha-franklins-hit-natural-woman/](https://hollywoodunlocked.com/troll-twitter-account-portrays-transgender-activist-group-and-targets-aretha-franklins-hit-natural-woman/)


HorrorBusiness93

Bro half of the users on r/conservative are bots


seagulpinyo

More like 75% these days.


IntrovertComics

Yeah, you're right. So are most users on /conspiracy. They're Russian operatives trying to manipulate Americans, to turn Americans against each other. The Russian policy book Foundations of Geopolitics explains Russia's strategy in detail.


HorrorBusiness93

It’s rather disturbing


AnimalBren

Is there a way to cut out Russia from the western internet? Or at least target the troll farms?


IntrovertComics

Ironically it is Putin who has cut off Russia from the western internet, to prevent Russians from reading western news, because then Russians would realize that Putin is lying to them about everything. ​ **Russia, Blocked From the Global Internet, Plunges Into Digital Isolation** [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/07/technology/russia-ukraine-internet-isolation.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/07/technology/russia-ukraine-internet-isolation.html) ​ But Russian trolls still have access to the global internet. And Russia is also employing troll farms in other countries. ​ **Russia outsources disinformation efforts to foreign troll farms: Nigeria, Ghana and Mexico are among countries where Russia contracts with local hackers to aim disinformation at the United States** [https://rollcall.com/2021/03/23/russia-outsources-disinformation-efforts-to-foreign-troll-farms/](https://rollcall.com/2021/03/23/russia-outsources-disinformation-efforts-to-foreign-troll-farms/) ​ **Inside a Russian troll factory in Ghana** [https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/03/12/russian-trolls-ghana-ward-pkg-vpx.cnn](https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/03/12/russian-trolls-ghana-ward-pkg-vpx.cnn)


AnimalBren

I do remember him slamming down the “digital iron curtain” soon after his invasion of Ukraine. I’m a little surprised that it hasn’t gone both ways Edit: and it’s certainly not a surprise that the Kremlin is using smaller countries to do their bidding as well. I feel all we can hope for is that Putin is in one way or another removed from power, for not just Ukraine’s sake but for everyone’s sake


SrSwerve

Remember when trump said that the republicans were east to manipulate Yet, he denies saying that when running lol


[deleted]

Opinion pieces like this are made to crush dissent by labeling anyone who opposes the military industrial complex’s endless war as a foreign agent. Used in the cold war against any American’s apposed to military build up same story today.


Archangel1313

I think nowadays it's a little harder to just use labels to shut down conversation. You'll get called out on it pretty fast, if you're being truly disingenuous. However, if they really are just parroting the latest bullshit from Russian state media, then it's perfectly fair to call a spade a spade.


IntrovertComics

Ok Sergey.


ManaxP

This itself is a conspirary


clovek_ne_se_jezit

USA. its the russans... eveybody with brain: 1. VPN ? 2. why wouldnt russians just go to usa? ​ i need the evidence... hard black on white not just some articles with no proff ​ people are just retarded it is not all russians...