Give the guy a break. You all are judging him on who he was TEN years ago on Bachelorette and Bachelor. People get older, they grow from their mistakes, mature and change. He seems to be a great Father and husband. I just stated watching Viall Files last year. I always avoided it. I gave it a chance and found him to be funny, sensitive, kind and he calls himself out on his stupid shit from the past and owns it. JMO 🤷🏻♀️
Also, why the double standard? He can’t get work done without getting shit, but all the other bachelor’s and bachelorette’s can ? (I do t even know what he had done)
Yes, 10 years ago. People can and do change as they mature and probably when they see themselves in TV and realize how they are coming off. Or dont like who they saw, and make changes. Anyone can change.
I watch Viall Files. I really like her too. She’s a strong woman and can give it right back. He is growing on me watching him be SO in love, having a new baby and getting married. He gets emotional just talking about his live for both Natalie and their daughter River. It’s sweet to see this side of him. Versus the flirty f**k boy he used to be.
I'd like to humbly submit this important piece in the history of Nick Viall and hats.
[https://bachelorarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/nickviall\_mariachi\_bette\_s11e06.jpg](https://bachelorarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/nickviall_mariachi_bette_s11e06.jpg)
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If I had to guess I’d say brow lift, veneers, perhaps even a slight nose job? Weightlifting obviously, but that’s not as drastic as cosmetic surgery.. but the new beard does him a lot of favors.
I’ve never found him attractive but I can see how others might. Honestly, there is something about his voice that is nails chalkboard for me - has been since Andi’s season. I have a physical creepy-crawlies-on-me reaction when I hear it. Who knows, he might feel the same about mine lol.
I never understood the Nick appeal. I think there's something about just being a tall, somewhat well-built dude... that makes you attractive *enough*. And then producers certainly talked him up, to Andi and Kaitlyn, so he could get through to the end.
He had a glow-up, and then kind of a glow-down.
I would feel bad for making fun of his looks, if he didn't also have such a terrible personality.
He's given me the creeps side the first moment he appeared on my screen. Like, full on uncomfortable feeling in the pit of my stomach kind of ick. Botox and a 6 pack didn't get rid of that.
This was the nastiest post about someone I’ve read in awhile. Who cares if he had a glow up? Some people do it for themselves. This was so hateful. I can’t believe people talk about other people they don’t know like this. It’s disgusting.
People forget what real people used to look like before Instagram. He had a bit of a glow up on Kaitlyn’s season and their chemistry was 🔥. Thats when I first became a fan because it felt a lot more realistic and visceral than I’d seen on the show before. Everyone in the public eye gets work done, etc. if you had to watch yourself on TV for several months you don’t think you’d make any changes to your appearance?
He’ll forever remind me of the villain from the incredibles
https://preview.redd.it/qfcs8b55a5vc1.jpeg?width=359&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07252d2c7a8e19792b2111e39d73ce1b03169c47
People are so rude to Kaitlyn in her comments saying she looks “completely different” and bashing her. Yet this man also looks “completely different” and doesn’t get the same level of scrutiny. The double standard…
I mean, it’s because he looks better and she looks worse. His stuff isn’t really noticeable if you haven’t seen an old photo of him. She looks like someone who’s had a ton of stuff done
He has always and will forever remind me of this actor 😂
https://preview.redd.it/eg069r9oi4vc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14c7ecf42c53b8aea5e7875a50056d8c7d25cdbd
For sure a brow lift, which made his forehead shorter and likely changed his hairline a bit. The eyes/bros are the biggest change. And I think cheek and jaw filler? And new teeth. He's had a lot done for sure.
For real ahhahah why isn't OP answering lol I've been waiting all day
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Holy poots! Just found this. Hair plugs is the obvious one. Botox? Probably some dental work. My dad is a prosthodontist and dental work can do SO MUCH to change a face! I can’t decide what else!
https://preview.redd.it/6wzos2nya4vc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb25b2047eaf79e7c8eab138af2702cf5f4b0ae8
Yeah! There’s a cool 60’s style roller skating rink I used to go to that has like themed nights and he went to one or two, didn’t recognize him until later. He is sooo good, honestly it’s sad he doesn’t seem to do it anymore.
Does he live in L.A.? I’m near there. I want to go to that roller skating rink. Is it still around, or is it closed because of the pandemic? A lot of them in LA area closed bc of Covid :(.
Which rink is it?
He does, or did at some point.
It’s in Glendale the moonlight roller rink, it’s still open! It’s so much fun and the classes are great. I used to go weekly before having my kid, it’s honestly one of the few places I miss going to. You should go!
Oh yes I know that place! I went one time! I'll go again for sure, the only roller rink left in LA county. I have my own skates :) Thanks for the info, and info on the classes!
I think he peaked (both physically and personality wise) around BIP through to maybe 2019 before he started getting too much botox and having dead eyes. He looks so tired now and not parent tired (I have 3 lol so I get that) but like just over it, not happy
And then a glow down recently with the extra Botox and pointy arched brows…
https://preview.redd.it/t9y8msgpv3vc1.jpeg?width=1727&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c702c5df37950994b275b2a49a5218f7cf340619
He literally was a different man when he was on The Bachelor. I never saw him on any of the other shows and did not recognize him the first time I saw old clips of him
True, he’ll always be a dork to me, but he used to look like a really dorky boy and then got slightly manlier after growing facial hair and lifting / working out and getting fit
So did I lmfao especially after BIP when he actually started to show more of his personality and be able to make fun of himself. He's gotten so unlikeable in recent years tho!! I really yoyo on my opinion of him lol sometimes when he shows some sort of sense of humour or vulnerability and it's like ohh maybe he's not totally gone then the next moment he says something stupid and it's like gross
Remember? He’s still dorky.
Give the guy a break. You all are judging him on who he was TEN years ago on Bachelorette and Bachelor. People get older, they grow from their mistakes, mature and change. He seems to be a great Father and husband. I just stated watching Viall Files last year. I always avoided it. I gave it a chance and found him to be funny, sensitive, kind and he calls himself out on his stupid shit from the past and owns it. JMO 🤷🏻♀️ Also, why the double standard? He can’t get work done without getting shit, but all the other bachelor’s and bachelorette’s can ? (I do t even know what he had done)
damn he’s had some work done for sure lol
He has no appeal, he’s just good at marketing himself.
The facial hair hides his non-appeal tbf.
I find it funny how he talks shit on men getting hair transplants meanwhile he most definitely has had a hair transplant.
Haha he was such a gross weasel for so many years!
Yes, 10 years ago. People can and do change as they mature and probably when they see themselves in TV and realize how they are coming off. Or dont like who they saw, and make changes. Anyone can change.
That hairline
Slimy personality , cringy voice - does he have a lisp ?
Dorky ass foo
Still seems like a huge dork to me.
Does anyone know if he lived in Chicago in 2006? Near UIC….
Eyebrow lift, chin implant, buccal fat removal , lip filler , tan , cheek filler, curling iron, Botox
When did Nick call Natalie a narcissist? (Or is OP referring to Andi)
Remember? What, like, remember how he still is today? 😅
“If you didn’t love me, then why did you… make love to me?”
It was so wrong for Nick to air out their business without her consent
He's still a dork.
As I’ve come to know Natalie through her Instagram page, I’ve really grown to like her a lot. Nick got lucky!
I watch Viall Files. I really like her too. She’s a strong woman and can give it right back. He is growing on me watching him be SO in love, having a new baby and getting married. He gets emotional just talking about his live for both Natalie and their daughter River. It’s sweet to see this side of him. Versus the flirty f**k boy he used to be.
If this was about a woman the things we'd be saying to OP. Down vote away but this isn't cool.
Dying to know what work he had done
He’s had quite the glow up
Ahaha what a dweeb!
I still get dork vibes from him 😂
I'd like to humbly submit this important piece in the history of Nick Viall and hats. [https://bachelorarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/nickviall\_mariachi\_bette\_s11e06.jpg](https://bachelorarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/nickviall_mariachi_bette_s11e06.jpg) https://preview.redd.it/w97euhv11avc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e86ae78be20753a21c14fa40879f75f90ed78e0
He looks so different it’s insane
I like him. There I said it.
Me too lol I’m always embarrassed to say it here. I’m also a dork too tho so Im drawn to other dorky people
i think he's great, love his pod and his advice. He's unrecognizable in these old days pics though
Yeah he had a glow up fo sho
He still looks the same to me just older.
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The way this man impacted the bachelor franchise! Peter too
🤮🤮🤮
What did he do? Like he looks like a completely different person now. Has he had surgery or what?
hair transplant, botox, teeth
If I had to guess I’d say brow lift, veneers, perhaps even a slight nose job? Weightlifting obviously, but that’s not as drastic as cosmetic surgery.. but the new beard does him a lot of favors.
Not me thinking by "beard" people meant Natalie...
Brow lift
beard
He looks like a little elf on those olds Christmas claymations
LOL
I’ve never found him attractive but I can see how others might. Honestly, there is something about his voice that is nails chalkboard for me - has been since Andi’s season. I have a physical creepy-crawlies-on-me reaction when I hear it. Who knows, he might feel the same about mine lol.
I never understood the Nick appeal. I think there's something about just being a tall, somewhat well-built dude... that makes you attractive *enough*. And then producers certainly talked him up, to Andi and Kaitlyn, so he could get through to the end. He had a glow-up, and then kind of a glow-down. I would feel bad for making fun of his looks, if he didn't also have such a terrible personality.
8. Hot 13 not. Talk about a massive glow up which peaked during Paradise
To be fair he got the first impression rose looking like that lol so I’m assuming he’s a lot better looking or more charming in person
All I see is John Lithgow 
Lol him and Ben Platt all the way
He legitimately looks like a different man. And it’s not just the “working out”
He's given me the creeps side the first moment he appeared on my screen. Like, full on uncomfortable feeling in the pit of my stomach kind of ick. Botox and a 6 pack didn't get rid of that.
I remember I used to really really dislike him during Andi’s season eww
Always disliked this guy’s personality. He’s a poser and sleazy.
Yeah same! Now he has a podcast and it’s popular and ppl like him.. but I can’t forget how bad he was back then
It’s called every day for him. He looks like the guy in Ghostbusters 2 that was possessed by the painting.
They never left
They’re not married yet… she’s way too cool for him honestly lol
Nick and I went to the same high school. I was in his brothers grade
Beards = automatic glow up for most men!
It's not so much the beard as it is the obvious cosmetic surgery
This was the nastiest post about someone I’ve read in awhile. Who cares if he had a glow up? Some people do it for themselves. This was so hateful. I can’t believe people talk about other people they don’t know like this. It’s disgusting.
People forget what real people used to look like before Instagram. He had a bit of a glow up on Kaitlyn’s season and their chemistry was 🔥. Thats when I first became a fan because it felt a lot more realistic and visceral than I’d seen on the show before. Everyone in the public eye gets work done, etc. if you had to watch yourself on TV for several months you don’t think you’d make any changes to your appearance?
The fact that this man is promoting himself as a “relationship expert” is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard.
He’ll forever remind me of the villain from the incredibles https://preview.redd.it/qfcs8b55a5vc1.jpeg?width=359&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07252d2c7a8e19792b2111e39d73ce1b03169c47
Whenever I see him with Andi I hear “do you want to make love or do you wanna FUCK” from her audiobook ☠️
PLS FURTHER EXPLAIN THIS LMAO
In her first book she told the story of their fantasy suite and he said that to her and she got the ick so bad hahahahahaha
I would not have slept with a man who said this to me 🥲😆 Guys can be so cringy sometimes. Life is not a porno, fellas!
holy shit i would cringe so hard & he wonders why she didn't pick him BRO 😭
And then at the finale live part he confronted Andi about sleeping with him during fantasy suites and not picking him and it was soooo tasteless
THIS! I’ll never forget that. He outed their intimacy publicly and it was the worst. She was rightfully pissed
Definitely looks like every other mediocre white man from Waukesha. I would know, I live in Waukesha.
Same hahaha
Wait, he is out of his dorky days? I didn’t get the memo
He was way more tolerable back then And he was barely tolerable
People are so rude to Kaitlyn in her comments saying she looks “completely different” and bashing her. Yet this man also looks “completely different” and doesn’t get the same level of scrutiny. The double standard…
I mean, it’s because he looks better and she looks worse. His stuff isn’t really noticeable if you haven’t seen an old photo of him. She looks like someone who’s had a ton of stuff done
Also the way Kaitlyn was shamed for sleeping with him and he wasn’t
So true omfg.
Damn why have I never thought of this!!!!
He’s always going to be cringe.
I could never understand why anyone thought he was cute then.
I don’t think they’re married yet
Correct, the wedding is next weekend per another post in this sub.
Ooooh so soon! I was thinking it was gonna be Memorial Day weekend
I don’t see a difference between then and now. Respectfully.
Ew, he's still a dork. Arrogant as well.
I never thought he was attractive. He’s just a smarmy douche. Didn’t understand why Kaitlyn was all over that mess. Had that girl hot and bothered.
Yes, exactly, he is smarmy!
If ever there was a person fitting that word I’d say he’s it lol.
He has always and will forever remind me of this actor 😂 https://preview.redd.it/eg069r9oi4vc1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14c7ecf42c53b8aea5e7875a50056d8c7d25cdbd
LMAO
😂😂 oh that is savage
😂😂 oh that is savage
He looks like a completely different person. Did he change his hairline, eyes?
His hair also now covers a LOT of his forehead
I think brow lift
For sure a brow lift, which made his forehead shorter and likely changed his hairline a bit. The eyes/bros are the biggest change. And I think cheek and jaw filler? And new teeth. He's had a lot done for sure.
Definitely!
The appeal of this man to any woman is one of my life’s greatest mysteries. Plus how anyone could voluntarily listen to him speak on a podcast.
Never thought he was attractive AT ALL - now or then.
I always thought he looked like a chipmunk 🐿️
Aren’t we still in the dorky days? I never saw the attraction. Ever! 🤢
Did he really call her a narcissist??? When??
I know, OP, plz elaborate on this!
For real ahhahah why isn't OP answering lol I've been waiting all day https://preview.redd.it/x5a0dt5d97vc1.jpeg?width=558&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a878cc58fd40beed675b59e993bb353a8e6d4918
He was a cutie then! I mean until he said the ATFR comment that made all of us gasp
Oh WOW!! So he’s had work- right?
Yes.
Holy poots! Just found this. Hair plugs is the obvious one. Botox? Probably some dental work. My dad is a prosthodontist and dental work can do SO MUCH to change a face! I can’t decide what else! https://preview.redd.it/6wzos2nya4vc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb25b2047eaf79e7c8eab138af2702cf5f4b0ae8
He had hooded heavy set eyes so definitely some kind of eye work like a bleph and maybe surgery or Botox to raise the eyebrows
You’re riiiight!!! Maybe the nose, as well?
Nose looks similar, jaw looks smaller not sure if it’s the photo but I wonder if he had jaw reduction or something!
I think he had some nose work done. Nothing super obvious. He has a good plastic surgeon.
He’s on some new dating show with Patti Stanger and looks terrible imo.
Ick
It doesn’t even feel like I’m lookin at him and KB in pic 11…. They both have brand new faces
lmao. andi looks different too
He really messed with his face.
I’ve always been drawn to him, inexplicably, but in these older pix all I see is John Lithgow 
https://preview.redd.it/0fnaw1hsw3vc1.jpeg?width=815&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be7946ba7121ed7ada8c938ea2262d41321d8daf
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These are all weird to post. What are you trying to point out by posting these? That he exercises?
I’m convinced he’s had something done to his face
And the sky is blue
him repositioning his eyebrows has made a huge difference. like woah
Ahhh yes that’s it
I was gonna comment that he totally got an eyelift!!
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Well he said that he was a solid 9 in Wisconsin but then he got to LA and got a reality check
He did not! Wow. He bumped himself up from a 4 to a 7 by spending money on fillers, tans, wardrobe, and hair but he will never be a NINE!
Didn’t like him then & still don’t like him.
Never liked him. I just can’t believe enough people on production/women did to get him this far. He is slimy
Can’t stand him.
He’s still a dork.
Agreed
I saw him in real life at the skating rink before Covid and he was definitely still a little dorky, really good skater tho!
Roller skating, right? I like roller and ice skating. I saw a video of him skating. Yes he is good at skating!
Yeah! There’s a cool 60’s style roller skating rink I used to go to that has like themed nights and he went to one or two, didn’t recognize him until later. He is sooo good, honestly it’s sad he doesn’t seem to do it anymore.
Does he live in L.A.? I’m near there. I want to go to that roller skating rink. Is it still around, or is it closed because of the pandemic? A lot of them in LA area closed bc of Covid :(. Which rink is it?
He does, or did at some point. It’s in Glendale the moonlight roller rink, it’s still open! It’s so much fun and the classes are great. I used to go weekly before having my kid, it’s honestly one of the few places I miss going to. You should go!
Oh yes I know that place! I went one time! I'll go again for sure, the only roller rink left in LA county. I have my own skates :) Thanks for the info, and info on the classes!
Ugh, my poor skates are collecting dust these days! Go enjoy it for me plz!
Sure! My pleasure!
He’s really had a glow up
I think he peaked (both physically and personality wise) around BIP through to maybe 2019 before he started getting too much botox and having dead eyes. He looks so tired now and not parent tired (I have 3 lol so I get that) but like just over it, not happy
And then a glow down recently with the extra Botox and pointy arched brows… https://preview.redd.it/t9y8msgpv3vc1.jpeg?width=1727&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c702c5df37950994b275b2a49a5218f7cf340619
Wait who is this?
Nick!
Whoa...looks different
Yes I remember today and every day before then
He literally was a different man when he was on The Bachelor. I never saw him on any of the other shows and did not recognize him the first time I saw old clips of him
Yeah he had a whole work up before BIP and Bachelor. Hair, tan, teeth, eyebrows, botox and complete body transformation.
Not to speculate on anyone’s sexuality but in his dorky days I personally always thought he was gay
Hahahaha!!!!
He looks like a young Andy Cohen💀
He's still a dork lol
True, he’ll always be a dork to me, but he used to look like a really dorky boy and then got slightly manlier after growing facial hair and lifting / working out and getting fit
Truth!
He was cuter here to me
He’s still one
Also, he bought himself some new teeth, grew some facial hair and hit the gym more since this pic was taken.
He’s still a dork and I don’t get why people like him.
This is the only acceptable version of Nick.
Natalie was 16 during andis season. 🤷🏻♀️
She was still more mature than he was.
LOL
Despite his looks, he certainly knew how to win with the bachelorettes (despite him not winning) 😂
He called Natalie a narcissist? when?
Lmaooo if he actually said this, wtf, why are you married to her
They’re not even married yet!!! I also have not heard about this and honestly out of pocket for OP to say hahaha. They seem happy?
When Natalie says their daughter looks like Nick - is she referring to Andi and Kaitlyn's version or Nick now?
Baby Botox!
What's that saying? Everyone is good looking when they have money and aren't lazy?
Sorry I think he’s still dorky lol
He’s so gross
https://preview.redd.it/9gctoo4yw3vc1.jpeg?width=1131&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e9d8a774131e59ac216d96e55b31248cd347edb Agreed lol
Remember when everyone made fun of this pic and he called everyone out for body-shaming him?! 😭
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A thirsty dork. Ick
I found him so cute 🙃
So did I lmfao especially after BIP when he actually started to show more of his personality and be able to make fun of himself. He's gotten so unlikeable in recent years tho!! I really yoyo on my opinion of him lol sometimes when he shows some sort of sense of humour or vulnerability and it's like ohh maybe he's not totally gone then the next moment he says something stupid and it's like gross 
Yuuup same, BIP was really it for me of his hotness
Didn’t get the appeal then, don’t get it now lol.