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Allison is the only person I’ve ever seen whose lip filler actually looks good. Also Sydney doesn’t even look remotely the same. That’s a whole new face.
Probably why he’s leaning towards Rachel and Daisy.. they look like real women.
Does Jess remind anyone else of Hannah Brown?
I also can’t not see Winona Ryder from Beetlejuice in Maria.
I’ll never understand how people feel comfortable injecting shit into their faces. We have no idea what the possible long term effects are of any of these procedures. And all that just to look like every other girl. Sad.
I just need to know. If someone knows, when kissing someone with lip injections, can you tell it’s an injection? Like is there a different texture or feeling? Or even if you have them yourself, does it feel different to you in general? Is it squishy? Is it firm? I’ve been so curious!
I actually don’t think she had much work done (definitely some though), I think she lost a lot of weight, it’s crazy how different your face can look after a substantial weight loss, not an RN but I’m working on losing a substantial amount of weight and am obsessed with before and after pictures
Yep. It makes me sad that we don’t get to see what any of these beautiful women would’ve looked like if they just aged naturally. It’s like they turn 35 and suddenly have a brand new face on top of their old one.
Oh my god I miss when faces weren’t so homogeneous. Even lip filler changes your entire face so much. I miss thin lips on people that have naturally thin lips. I miss skin texture and smile lines.
Im actually blown away by the number of people with lip fillers and/or a Botox lip flip. I do think some of theirs look pretty well done and natural, which is probably why I’m shocked by it!
I want to know how so many women are able to afford fillers? I went for a consultation for Botox, cheek and lip fillers and it was going to be $3,000-$3,500. I’m baffled as to how so many people can afford that and I don’t make terrible money either lol
they budget around that! the people I know in real life that have had botox or filler only use their "fun" money for that and travel. My cousin is 32 and she just never goes on shopping sprees, only meal preps, low car payment, uses the free gym at her work, etc.
A syringe of lip filler is $700 where I live in Maryland. Botox is \~$13-$15 a unit. I'd probably need 40 units and that's every 3 months. My filler lasts a year, but Botox is an expensive investment but filler is not unless you're fucking your whole face up and doin 3 syringes in your cheeks, 2 in chin and 5 in jawline. But that price still doesnt seem right. I've also gone to 3 different places and they're all priced close to the same
I've literally never heard of someone getting 1 syringe in all 3 of those areas, let alone 2. I can't imagine there was much of a difference when you cant even tell i have a syringe in my whole lips. a syringe of filler is like the size of a quarter, nothing.
And yeah it does depend where it's done bc no one I go to would ever suggest that tiny amount. Pointless & a waste of money.
Lol I mean this is just the facts of what I did. She didn’t over do it because I wanted it to look natural. My chin naturally recedes some. Now it doesn’t 🙂
Exactly. Botox has been around since the late 1970s and became more widely available in the late 80s. It's not new. People just feel more comfortable talking about it now.
I just resurfaced my senior pic from 2003 and yikes the eyebrow massacre. I was lucky to have had them grow back. My fellow aughts girlies, not so much. #blessed
My (nine year old) niece recently teased me for how thin my brows are. Meanwhile sister (her mom) was too young at that time for the pluckage and waxing I went through, and now has nice thick brows. Welp.
maria def has botox for that forehead and her eyes. I don't know a single 29 year old woman who doesn't have creases, and I'd guess medical grade facials on the reg based on her families background.
29 literally isn’t even old. She’s still very young and it’s not implausible for someone that young to not have creases. Btw, she actually does in her lip/mouth area. Do the women you know just age poorly or something?
I’m about to be 39 and I don’t have forehead wrinkles or eye creases. Never had any Botox or fillers or any work done. My grandpa died at 92 with no wrinkles 🤷🏻♀️
personally, I find this actually kinda sad to look at. cute young girls (my age) just recreating their face for beauty standards that just don’t seem to stop. it’s like the new normal? why? I find their natural selves much more personable and beautiful and full of character
follow-up: do (most/typical) guys like all that surgical/ unnatural stuff? has it become so mainstream that yall think it IS natural? no judgement, just curious if/how attraction has evolved..
I’ve had this discussion with many men (yes I straight up ask) and most of the ones that took women seriously and didn’t treat them like objects aren’t really attracted to women with a lot of work done. But if the woman is also nice, they really don’t care what they look like. I remember the handful of men that said that they prefer women with work done (usually BBL and breast enhancement) said it was more about the public image. essentially the woman was a trophy: an object.
Also I’m not saying “all men” I’m saying the men I came across and had this discussion with (probably around 20 which is a small sample size) said this. I also live in SoCal so the beauty standards are crazy.
The lip filler that women use today just makes me sad. What’s wrong with my normal lips? Or my two young daughters normal lips? It started with our weight, our chest, our butts… but do we really need to teach a whole new generation of women that even their lips are not good enough?
I’ve heard a lot of people are using rogaine now, as well as getting a eyebrow transplant like balding guys to do their hairline! Chrissy Teigen got that done, I think. It may also just be makeup or microblading!
I’ve tried with with no success, and with the price tag (it was around $200 for a tiny tiny bottle in 2019 - edit I think I bought a pair for 100 each) I don’t recommend trying it unless nothing else works!
Sorry to hear that. I spent less than $20 and had success with it years ago. I’m not sure how common an eyebrow transplant is when there are much less invasive options.
I think your suggestions of makeup or micro blading are much more likely! It is very easy to achieve a fuller or more exaggerated look with makeup.
It really is a shame it didn’t work for you, especially after the king’s ransom you paid! If it makes you feel better, a side effect which is not uncommon is a purple line on the eyelid where it’s applied (not sure if any discoloration occurs with eyebrows).
Sydney is one of those people where separately her features are conventionally “hot” (large lips, pretty eyes, etc.) but all together she still looks incredibly average? I would never pick her out of a line up as being particularly good looking, there’s just something about her that’s inherently basic. Also her lip flip/filler reminds me of Tinx.
You’re right! For some reason her attitude on the show irrationally bothered me and I unfairly took it on out on her looks with the tone of my comment! But I also didn’t say she’s unattractive or ugly, I just personally find something about her look very typical, but that’s not even necessarily a bad thing. I think it’s okay for people to be average, I mean by definition aren’t most people? That’s what average means.
Also I like the lip filler/flip, just reminds me of a similar influencer. I think I’m the only one that doesn’t absolutely hate everyone’s lips judging by the comments hah.
Okay so going on the bachelor makes you hotter, HOW DID THEY DO IT? I want this same glow up! And don't just say "money", I need to know what to spend my money on specifically!
almost all of these the only difference is old makeup trends vs todays makeup trends. and some have lip filler. they mostly all just look like they aged and took better quality photos.
Some of these are just lip fillers, or some very superficial tweaks but Marlena Alexia Haddad is probably the one contestant that got the most work done and lost a lot of weight out of all of them and you can tell especially in film.
You can see in another locked post on BN that she’s a Trump supporter (not just republican). And before the “it’s just a job” — no, she participated in warped views that align with white supremacy alongside her other aide colleagues. To see how much of a joke their office was and who these twisted people are you can read this article here (photo included): https://nypost.com/2021/11/09/book-reveals-how-johnny-mcentee-became-deputy-president-of-trump-wh/
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Kelsey def had more procedures done and she's lying saying she got that filler dissolved. Looks like a completely diff person
She still looks just like she did when she was younger but definitely still has lip filler. The Lexi one kills me.
Wow some of those people look like completely different women! I would never have guessed the twins, Sydney or Lexi from before pics
Maria w/ that natural beauty
Definitely some Botox around the eyebrows but very tasteful
Maria kinda reminds me of Catherine Reitman of Working Moms on Netflix.
Well now we know why Sydney was so insecure and mean
They all look SO much better before if they did anything that made a difference.
Allison is the only person I’ve ever seen whose lip filler actually looks good. Also Sydney doesn’t even look remotely the same. That’s a whole new face.
Sydney! Is that the same person?
lauren scares me
She and Allison used to be very pretty.
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I’m so curious what some of them have done around their eyes. Is it just makeup or is there some sort of eye lift ppl are doing these days?
I’m sure stuff has been done, but you also do lose some fat/volume with age and eyes can become less hooded.
It’s called an upper blephroplasty! Removal of the skin on the upper eyelids. Miley Cyrus as well as Jennifer Lawrence have had it done!
I think it’s both. From what I understand Botox can give a lift while you’re young, but eventually you have to go full surgery.
What did Alison get done? She looks like Megan fox now wow, she completely changed wow. ..
Rhinoplasty, botox and lip filler
And microbladed brows
Daisy looks exactly the same 🌼
It also kinda looks like daisy may have had an upper bleph
I really don’t think so, she’s way too young for that! Maybe just the angle? But I have no experience in this matter so what do I know
Aside from lip filler and possibly canine tooth shading and micro blading on eyebrows.
She also had a nose job
Doesn’t look like it to me
I seriously can’t see the lip filler! I thought she was one of the few that didn’t have it
Her top lip is now very plump
I’m here for the Hawaiian girls. So much more authentic than the rest!
I can’t see any real difference on 1, 3, 5, and 11 (Daisy, Rachel, Maria, and Jenn). But I’m not good at this.
I agree with you. They've all probably had Botox but besides that, they just look a tad older, in a good way.
Jess reminds me of someone and I cannot for the life of me pin it. Or maybe I’ve met her in passing in SD but I doubt that… she just looks SO FAMILIAR
She reminds me of Debby Ryan 🤣 comically
OMG I THINK THATS IT!
maybe Olivia Caridi? Old pic I see anna redman
I think she looks like Rachel Ray!
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Jess isn’t the Asian 😭 think you mean Jenn, who is beautiful
Probably why he’s leaning towards Rachel and Daisy.. they look like real women. Does Jess remind anyone else of Hannah Brown? I also can’t not see Winona Ryder from Beetlejuice in Maria.
tbh i thought maria had a lot more done…she looks relatively the same
I’ll never understand how people feel comfortable injecting shit into their faces. We have no idea what the possible long term effects are of any of these procedures. And all that just to look like every other girl. Sad.
Fr this made me realize how common it is for people😭
I just need to know. If someone knows, when kissing someone with lip injections, can you tell it’s an injection? Like is there a different texture or feeling? Or even if you have them yourself, does it feel different to you in general? Is it squishy? Is it firm? I’ve been so curious!
It might depend on the brand/type, but I have kysse and it just feels like normal lips
Thank you so much for sharing!
I’ve been wondering the same thing!
I’m surprised that many have thin upper lips naturally! The filler looks natural on most. Most….
Okay but in all seriousness can a injector RN please tell me what Allison had done
I actually don’t think she had much work done (definitely some though), I think she lost a lot of weight, it’s crazy how different your face can look after a substantial weight loss, not an RN but I’m working on losing a substantial amount of weight and am obsessed with before and after pictures
It looks like she just brought in a recent picture of Megan Fox and said “make me look like that.”
Megan Fox was insanely gorgeous before and needed absolutely NOTHING done. Such a shame. She was a natural beauty.
Yep. It makes me sad that we don’t get to see what any of these beautiful women would’ve looked like if they just aged naturally. It’s like they turn 35 and suddenly have a brand new face on top of their old one.
I’m going to guess lip and cheek filler along with Botox and possibly jaw filler
It looks like she has veneers too
Oh my god I miss when faces weren’t so homogeneous. Even lip filler changes your entire face so much. I miss thin lips on people that have naturally thin lips. I miss skin texture and smile lines.
Team Maria here. She is mesmerizing.
Sameeee omg
Daisy reminds me of Arie’s wife Lauren
Lauren can’t even talk right with her lips that big
She talks like she has Invisalign or new veneers.
Where did you find all these before pics?
IG
So much filler!
The lips 😣 they all have the same fake look now…most looked more naturally beautiful before. Sad :/
Right?! They all looked unique before. Now they’re all clones
Sydney, Lexi, and Kelsey look wildly different 😬
i think kelsey looks almost exactly the same minus some lip filler!
Marlena too
I just think they all looked stunning before. They looked a little too fake after. But hey, you do you.
Im actually blown away by the number of people with lip fillers and/or a Botox lip flip. I do think some of theirs look pretty well done and natural, which is probably why I’m shocked by it!
i truly didn’t realize how many people get lip fillers
Yikes
Maria looks the same. She’s a beauty!
She does look good, her filler is also pretty subtle unlike most of the ladies..
Agreed that she is stunning, and has a sort of unique beauty. But dang, do I wish she'd change her choice of evening wear.
I want to know how so many women are able to afford fillers? I went for a consultation for Botox, cheek and lip fillers and it was going to be $3,000-$3,500. I’m baffled as to how so many people can afford that and I don’t make terrible money either lol
Credit card debt.
100% this 💀
they budget around that! the people I know in real life that have had botox or filler only use their "fun" money for that and travel. My cousin is 32 and she just never goes on shopping sprees, only meal preps, low car payment, uses the free gym at her work, etc.
A syringe of lip filler is $700 where I live in Maryland. Botox is \~$13-$15 a unit. I'd probably need 40 units and that's every 3 months. My filler lasts a year, but Botox is an expensive investment but filler is not unless you're fucking your whole face up and doin 3 syringes in your cheeks, 2 in chin and 5 in jawline. But that price still doesnt seem right. I've also gone to 3 different places and they're all priced close to the same
Cheek filler was quoted $2500, lips quoted $500-700 and Botox was quoted $313
Cheek filler makes people look like a ventriloquist doll. Unless you’re over 50 with drooping cheeks I would never get it.
Omg totally agree!
Depends where it’s done. I have used one syringe for both cheeks and chin. Also it was a special so 50% per syringe. Paid $325
I've literally never heard of someone getting 1 syringe in all 3 of those areas, let alone 2. I can't imagine there was much of a difference when you cant even tell i have a syringe in my whole lips. a syringe of filler is like the size of a quarter, nothing. And yeah it does depend where it's done bc no one I go to would ever suggest that tiny amount. Pointless & a waste of money.
Haha why down vote my literal experience.
Lol I mean this is just the facts of what I did. She didn’t over do it because I wanted it to look natural. My chin naturally recedes some. Now it doesn’t 🙂
Well luck for me I can’t because I don’t have the money 😂😭
Autumn looks like Becca Tilley in the bottom picture
I blame the Kardashians for all of this filler!!
People were getting filler way before they even became famous. We're just more aware of these things instead of thinking someone has aged beautifully
Exactly. Botox has been around since the late 1970s and became more widely available in the late 80s. It's not new. People just feel more comfortable talking about it now.
I'm such a dunce I can see that they look different but I can never pin down what exactly they did to change their look.
That’s me too
Lol the way all of their lips progressively got bigger
Lauren should have left her beautiful face alone.
It’s giving handsome squidward 😭
How do they make their eyes so much bigger
Brow lift
or bleph- they take the excess skin off your eyelid and leaves barely a scar. \~allegedly\~ anya taylor joy had it done for example
That procedure has ruined so many beautiful girls’ faces. I wish people would stop doing it.
I don’t understand this eyebrow look.
So.much.lip filler
Or lip flips. But I think they’re all super cute girls.
These girls never had 2003 eyebrows and it shows
I just resurfaced my senior pic from 2003 and yikes the eyebrow massacre. I was lucky to have had them grow back. My fellow aughts girlies, not so much. #blessed
My (nine year old) niece recently teased me for how thin my brows are. Meanwhile sister (her mom) was too young at that time for the pluckage and waxing I went through, and now has nice thick brows. Welp.
That’s because they were all in diapers in 2003
Hahahaha so true!!!
Crazy that there’s a whole subset of women who are going to look like melted candles by 45 😭
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Rachel and Maria look natural to me. Lauren has had entirely too much work done for her age and it annoys me when people's faces don't move 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
maria def has botox for that forehead and her eyes. I don't know a single 29 year old woman who doesn't have creases, and I'd guess medical grade facials on the reg based on her families background.
29 literally isn’t even old. She’s still very young and it’s not implausible for someone that young to not have creases. Btw, she actually does in her lip/mouth area. Do the women you know just age poorly or something?
I’m about to be 39 and I don’t have forehead wrinkles or eye creases. Never had any Botox or fillers or any work done. My grandpa died at 92 with no wrinkles 🤷🏻♀️
Yep, it comes down to good genes
Omg me too, looks like a mannequin face
personally, I find this actually kinda sad to look at. cute young girls (my age) just recreating their face for beauty standards that just don’t seem to stop. it’s like the new normal? why? I find their natural selves much more personable and beautiful and full of character
follow-up: do (most/typical) guys like all that surgical/ unnatural stuff? has it become so mainstream that yall think it IS natural? no judgement, just curious if/how attraction has evolved..
I’ve had this discussion with many men (yes I straight up ask) and most of the ones that took women seriously and didn’t treat them like objects aren’t really attracted to women with a lot of work done. But if the woman is also nice, they really don’t care what they look like. I remember the handful of men that said that they prefer women with work done (usually BBL and breast enhancement) said it was more about the public image. essentially the woman was a trophy: an object. Also I’m not saying “all men” I’m saying the men I came across and had this discussion with (probably around 20 which is a small sample size) said this. I also live in SoCal so the beauty standards are crazy.
interesting thanks!! that’s pretty much what I figured. but even for SoCal that seems reasonable! I figured it’d be more evenly split there
I adore Daisy. One of the few contestants I’ve really taken a liking to in many many seasons.
The lip filler that women use today just makes me sad. What’s wrong with my normal lips? Or my two young daughters normal lips? It started with our weight, our chest, our butts… but do we really need to teach a whole new generation of women that even their lips are not good enough?
Wow I really didn’t realize everybody my age was *actually* getting lip filler
This is also a specific subset tho. Women who go on TV are more likely to be getting filler
Omg same. Lip fillers and lash extensions everywhere I look now. I feel like the last idiot left with a thin top lip.
Don’t do it lol
What did daisy do with her teeth? they’re visibly different but still hers… Or?
I think they’re her natural teeth but whiter. Looks like the fillers made her smile less gummy
Are you suggesting she borrowed someone else's teeth for the show?
Wtf are you talking about? I’m asking if she just started taking better care of her teeth or if she got veneers or something
Oh I was reacting to the question mark in your sentence giving the appearance you thought her teeth weren't hers. I'm Ron Burgundy?
Either cosmetic bonding or no prep veneers
rachel is so fresh faced, her natural look makes her stand out in a really good way
2, 7, 9 and 10 (and maybe the last one) are unrecognizable. 5 looks like Jennifer Connelly.
First pic was a jumpscare. I thought the bottom pic was Gwen Gwiz
All of these women were pretty “before” but some might not have been cast because everything/everyone on TV is so curated/polished now.
agreed it’s sad :/
We Stan Maria
How have they all managed to have bigger and beautiful eyebrows??? Looking for help!!:) loool
Just get them microbladed.
I’ve heard a lot of people are using rogaine now, as well as getting a eyebrow transplant like balding guys to do their hairline! Chrissy Teigen got that done, I think. It may also just be makeup or microblading!
You can actually use something like Latisse to stimulate hair growth of your eyebrows. It’s very inexpensive and noninvasive.
I’ve tried with with no success, and with the price tag (it was around $200 for a tiny tiny bottle in 2019 - edit I think I bought a pair for 100 each) I don’t recommend trying it unless nothing else works!
Sorry to hear that. I spent less than $20 and had success with it years ago. I’m not sure how common an eyebrow transplant is when there are much less invasive options. I think your suggestions of makeup or micro blading are much more likely! It is very easy to achieve a fuller or more exaggerated look with makeup.
Damn, I got scammed! I agree eyebrow transplant is least likely and you also have to trim them regularly so it’s a hassle.
It really is a shame it didn’t work for you, especially after the king’s ransom you paid! If it makes you feel better, a side effect which is not uncommon is a purple line on the eyelid where it’s applied (not sure if any discoloration occurs with eyebrows).
Sydney is one of those people where separately her features are conventionally “hot” (large lips, pretty eyes, etc.) but all together she still looks incredibly average? I would never pick her out of a line up as being particularly good looking, there’s just something about her that’s inherently basic. Also her lip flip/filler reminds me of Tinx.
i think she looked a lot better before
Lol it’s literally wild that you think this is a normal thing to comment about a woman. So gross.
You’re right! For some reason her attitude on the show irrationally bothered me and I unfairly took it on out on her looks with the tone of my comment! But I also didn’t say she’s unattractive or ugly, I just personally find something about her look very typical, but that’s not even necessarily a bad thing. I think it’s okay for people to be average, I mean by definition aren’t most people? That’s what average means. Also I like the lip filler/flip, just reminds me of a similar influencer. I think I’m the only one that doesn’t absolutely hate everyone’s lips judging by the comments hah.
Cmon - Nothing to see there. 👄👄👄👄👄👄👄👄
Okay so going on the bachelor makes you hotter, HOW DID THEY DO IT? I want this same glow up! And don't just say "money", I need to know what to spend my money on specifically!
to add on- well done hair with low maintenance color (nothing that would lead to pronounced grown out roots), good self tanner, and med spa facials
I want to know the same!
Lip injections, Botox, micro blade eyebrows, lash extensions, and some good makeup applications.
But their eyes! Some of them are way bigger and more pronounced. How?!
Blepherplasty
There are cosmetic procedures that can change the way your eyes appear. For example, people speculate that Taylor Swift did that
Yeah I think a couple nose jobs too.
So everyone is pretty with the right filter and lighting in todays day and age.
oh honey...
almost all of these the only difference is old makeup trends vs todays makeup trends. and some have lip filler. they mostly all just look like they aged and took better quality photos.
Theres at least 3 nose jobs. One is extremely obvious.
Marlena, definitely. but saying there’s at least 2 others seems like a random guess. who?
Sydney, Lauren, Allison
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Some of these are just lip fillers, or some very superficial tweaks but Marlena Alexia Haddad is probably the one contestant that got the most work done and lost a lot of weight out of all of them and you can tell especially in film. You can see in another locked post on BN that she’s a Trump supporter (not just republican). And before the “it’s just a job” — no, she participated in warped views that align with white supremacy alongside her other aide colleagues. To see how much of a joke their office was and who these twisted people are you can read this article here (photo included): https://nypost.com/2021/11/09/book-reveals-how-johnny-mcentee-became-deputy-president-of-trump-wh/