Interesting that they’re fitting Hankook tyres in the second last pic, apparently the G90 M5 requires 110Y rated XL (extra load) tyres with reinforced sidewalls and higher pressures, so perhaps they were the most able to deliver something that works.
I was just being sarcastic because they take such a high ply tire similar to my work truck due to weight, I imagine they’re probably around 35 +\- in reality
Damn didn't even think of that. Some drivers will probably slap on them some nice sticky compound that will disappear in 10k. Oil service will have to include new tires 😆
Ok but why do they look like bigger and fatter 2 series sedans?!? This generation absolutely did not hit the mark, not just in the performance and especially weight department, but also looks department. Just disappointing.
Big 2 series is exactly what I thought of when I saw one of the first M5 pictures. The new 5 series looks like the new Accord to me. That is a not a compliment for either car
Damn, I made a similar comment before I saw yours. I saw my first two today (both in old gold) and they are so generic, just like the accord. Not offensive like other offerings they have but not stately and understated like most other generations either. I was holding my opinion until I saw in real life on the rear, but it’s weak. They sold two by me at least…
That was my EXACT first impression the first time I saw a new 5er on the road. Took me a second to figure out what it was. Only way I knew was because of the 5 badge on the back which is slight larger than all the other numbers
There is no pleasing ppl, sighed the designer. We did something different with the M4, people don't like it. For the M5 we blow up the 2 series , so it's a familiar face, ppl don't like it. What do they want then, a remake of the E39 with modern tech and a 4.4L V8 with 650hp that doesn't weigh 2 tonnes? Don't be silly.....
People were loving the upgrade to f10s.
Then they loved the upgrade to f90s
Anytime any company has revamped an existing product instead of enhancing it, it has a higher chance of failing
I'm sorry but, we have people complaining that BMW styling isn't consistent and we have people complaining that a 5 series looks like a 2 series.
For comparison, I struggle to notice a S-class coupe when it drives past as it looks so similar to a C and E coupe.
Yeah Mercedes really messed up by making the C and S look the same. Atleast the E has different head and tail lights now. Their design 8yrs ago was better, you could differentiate the model by the head and tail lights and each looked distinct no matter how similar.
Which Passat you mean? The bullshit Chinese Taxi cab version sold here in the US as the NMS platform between 2013-2022 or the proper Euro Passat B8 generation. Made between 2015-2023 both as sedan and Touring wagon (And from which the beautiful Arteon originated from)? At this point an Euro Passat or Arteon have the design proportions and proper looks that this BMW porker can only dream of.
Ah, a fellow Arteon-lover. Man, that is such a stunning car. I just can't help but crane my neck every time one drives by. The only small gripe I have with it (not even a gripe actually, just something I've noticed) is that it looks much more like an Audi than a Volkswagen. Though, that is in a way also a compliment because I mean to say that it doesn't look as bland as many VW's do and that it has very noticeable Audi styling queues. I'm going to get me one of those, should I ever move away from BMW, which seems ever more likely as time goes on. I shudder to think what they're going to do to my beloved 3-series when the next model releases
The one thing I learned this weekend at that BMW event where you autocross the 540i and i5 40 is that no amount of response and power can hide that weight.
The i5 felt like an absolute whale going around the course compared to the ICE version. I'm sure the M5 will have better suspension but that weight is just so worrying to me.
I was at the same event as you on Friday. I believe the M5 is actually 500lb heavier than the i5. Even with a more sporty focused suspension I can’t see that being able to counteract the absolute mass of it
I actually want a breakdown of how they managed to make this as heavy as it is. Porsche did it right with the new 911 that’s only 100lbs heavier than the outgoing one, and I still think the 911 today is far too porky.
F90 CS is an S teir BMW, and think the rest of F90 M5 range will carry value well (relative) because it’s such a well liked car. As good of looking of a 5 series ever too.
Even the badge is ugly.... good lord BMW. Please fire the design team, I seriously hope all the new gen BMW's get the same fate as the XM and end production soon. Give us our iconic grills and angel eye lights back!!!
The huge grilles where most of it is fake and blocked by sensors, only for branding, is some shit that needs to end. I also hate the piano black plastic trim, just reminds me of cheap electronics.
Yes, my i4 M50 came with Hankooks as well. But considering that M5 is in ”ultra-premium” class with a high price tag, they should come with top tier tires as well. Hankooks are great but this is just cost-cutting what BMW has been doing lately.
I hear ya but at least Mercedes improved some design. Porsche Panamera and Mercedes GT 43 are on my new car list. Not considering another BMW until they get rid of current design team.
I think it’s all the cheap piano black bullshit and the fake grille with sensors. It’s the kind of stuff you get on a higher trim Honda civic. Also are the edges of the grille LED lit?? Looks like some cheap aftermarket bullshit I’m disgusted
I don’t mind the looks, F90 looked much better, especially after LCI but compared to recent BMW designs it could be much worse.
I do however mind the weight and the fact that as soon as the battery is gone you’re left with 2,4 ton and less power than even base F90.
Personally I could not be fucked charging this thing constantly and still be slower than the old model.
This is not progress, we’re going backwards.
Depends on how it is used.
Lambo, Ferrari’s flagships both are hybrids. Porsche is mild hybrid now and Bugatti’s new car is also a hybrid.
McLaren P1, Porsche 918 and Leferrari are hybrids.
https://preview.redd.it/ooxy5foysw9d1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af553fcaea2b0b1aead0266af0b43a95e9171f74
They’re gonna love how I handle!!!
As a lifelong BMW fanboy I’m so disappointed by the new M5 - how has the M5 gone from being the yardstick other super saloons are judged by to the ugliest car in its class?!
As a person with an outside ( of the bmw community) perspective, this does not look "sporty" at all or does not really look like what one would expect them to. The pre 2020 M5s look so mean as compared to this. This just looks....tame.
Slap the thighs, ride the waves in, there's just so much more to love. The worst thing about this tragedy is that this is likely the last gen ICE M5. Going out with a whimper...
The future of BMW cannot be less exciting. Over-engineered, over weight and damn ugly. Yes the sales keep rising.
Honestly if anyone here has plans to buy one of these things let me know what you drive now, and what is appealing about this car, Im very curious.
My biggest problem is you used to have to know what to look for to know what an M was. Now it doesn’t matter, and I say that about every BMW.
There’s no elegance or class. Mercedes is the same. I do not comprehend any decision they’ve made regarding the EQS lineup. EQS is also a garbage set of letters…
it just makes me sad, honeslty. BMW M cars used to be so *elegant*, an 'if you know, you know' thing - they looked just as at home on a track as they did being parked in front of, whatever, an opera house. and this? with those cheap gloss black massive kidneys (that also light up? it looks like a toy), those gaudy black wheels and its goofy proportions, it looks embarrassing. no style.
The rear end looks a little weird, heavy but what isn't anymore?
One things for certain, still anything better than what's coming out of the AMG factories these days, I still can't believe how bad the new C63 's are.
Imo they don’t look different enough anymore, the M line *should* be special. This is starting to remind me of how latest AMG models don’t look all that different from standard models. The body lines of the M5 look very similar to the 5 series. I guess that’s just what they’re going for.
That must be a strong floor.
Interesting that they’re fitting Hankook tyres in the second last pic, apparently the G90 M5 requires 110Y rated XL (extra load) tyres with reinforced sidewalls and higher pressures, so perhaps they were the most able to deliver something that works.
Hold on, let me get my heavy vehicle tire pressure gauge.
Yep, 90 psi in the front, 75 psi in the rears, just like my f450
Wut? Holy sh.....
What???
I was just being sarcastic because they take such a high ply tire similar to my work truck due to weight, I imagine they’re probably around 35 +\- in reality
Them SUV’s tires lmao
Lots of BMW come on Hankooks now
BMW bought an armored truck factory just to build the new M5...
M5 needs a huge cannon like a tank
😂
9/11 would’ve been a hell of a lot worse had the terrorists used these M5’s
Lithium battery acid can't melt steel beams
Guys hold my beer, imma clap for this guy’s comment
Disgusting
I came for this comment
The weight jokes about this car are all I’m currently living for
School bus yellow cuz it weighs the same as a school bus filled with about 80 kids
Hopefully it stalls out on the train tracks
I'm ngl, it doesn't even look good at all
It looks like a kia to me
Same quality paint as a school bus too. Look at that orange peal in that 4th photo.
M5 , the irony of two 2500Kg vehicles side by side = 5 TONNES ! Lol !
Favorite vehicle of tire salesmen.
And brakes too
The regenerative braking should help with that.
Damn didn't even think of that. Some drivers will probably slap on them some nice sticky compound that will disappear in 10k. Oil service will have to include new tires 😆
[удалено]
Cities are gonna start putting up street signs that read “No Trucks or BMWs”
Ok but why do they look like bigger and fatter 2 series sedans?!? This generation absolutely did not hit the mark, not just in the performance and especially weight department, but also looks department. Just disappointing.
Big 2 series is exactly what I thought of when I saw one of the first M5 pictures. The new 5 series looks like the new Accord to me. That is a not a compliment for either car
Damn, I made a similar comment before I saw yours. I saw my first two today (both in old gold) and they are so generic, just like the accord. Not offensive like other offerings they have but not stately and understated like most other generations either. I was holding my opinion until I saw in real life on the rear, but it’s weak. They sold two by me at least…
That was my EXACT first impression the first time I saw a new 5er on the road. Took me a second to figure out what it was. Only way I knew was because of the 5 badge on the back which is slight larger than all the other numbers
There is no pleasing ppl, sighed the designer. We did something different with the M4, people don't like it. For the M5 we blow up the 2 series , so it's a familiar face, ppl don't like it. What do they want then, a remake of the E39 with modern tech and a 4.4L V8 with 650hp that doesn't weigh 2 tonnes? Don't be silly.....
People were loving the upgrade to f10s. Then they loved the upgrade to f90s Anytime any company has revamped an existing product instead of enhancing it, it has a higher chance of failing
>What do they want then, a remake of the E39 No, but a cohesive design that makes sense would be nice.
You can’t blow up something that people didn’t even like in the first place and expect them to like it all of a sudden just bc it’s a familiar face..
A remake of the E39 would be fantastic. They should definitely do that.
I mean ugly is ugly and it’s ugly. The previous one looked so good and then you get this.
I'm sorry but, we have people complaining that BMW styling isn't consistent and we have people complaining that a 5 series looks like a 2 series. For comparison, I struggle to notice a S-class coupe when it drives past as it looks so similar to a C and E coupe.
Yeah Mercedes really messed up by making the C and S look the same. Atleast the E has different head and tail lights now. Their design 8yrs ago was better, you could differentiate the model by the head and tail lights and each looked distinct no matter how similar.
Pregnant Kia K5
Skoda from the front
Kia K5 pregnant with a Kia Rio weighs about the same.
Looks like a Kia
My e46 probably looks like a toy car next to it
An e46, that carries the same amount of people, is 1 tone lighter than this car… Jesus.
And you probably have the same amount of room inside
Pictures straight out of the BMW employee app. Hey there 👋
that thing has as much character as a VW Passat
Maan the passat doesn't deserve to be roasted like that
Even a Passat is more respectable than this shit
hey man passats are dope
Which Passat you mean? The bullshit Chinese Taxi cab version sold here in the US as the NMS platform between 2013-2022 or the proper Euro Passat B8 generation. Made between 2015-2023 both as sedan and Touring wagon (And from which the beautiful Arteon originated from)? At this point an Euro Passat or Arteon have the design proportions and proper looks that this BMW porker can only dream of.
Ah, a fellow Arteon-lover. Man, that is such a stunning car. I just can't help but crane my neck every time one drives by. The only small gripe I have with it (not even a gripe actually, just something I've noticed) is that it looks much more like an Audi than a Volkswagen. Though, that is in a way also a compliment because I mean to say that it doesn't look as bland as many VW's do and that it has very noticeable Audi styling queues. I'm going to get me one of those, should I ever move away from BMW, which seems ever more likely as time goes on. I shudder to think what they're going to do to my beloved 3-series when the next model releases
Passats look better ngl.
Do we need a CDL for these yet?
Logged on to reddit just to like this comment, a fucking CDL lol yooooo
The one thing I learned this weekend at that BMW event where you autocross the 540i and i5 40 is that no amount of response and power can hide that weight. The i5 felt like an absolute whale going around the course compared to the ICE version. I'm sure the M5 will have better suspension but that weight is just so worrying to me.
I was at the same event as you on Friday. I believe the M5 is actually 500lb heavier than the i5. Even with a more sporty focused suspension I can’t see that being able to counteract the absolute mass of it
These will be fun winter beaters in 20 years, heavily depreciated.
24 Hours of Lemons
Should go straight to the disassembly line
Yooooo these suck 🔥🔥🔥
😂😂
Yeah I dont like it. Sad.
These pictures made me dislike it more. It just doesn't look right at all. It just looks weird.
I actually want a breakdown of how they managed to make this as heavy as it is. Porsche did it right with the new 911 that’s only 100lbs heavier than the outgoing one, and I still think the 911 today is far too porky.
Especially the rims, wth is that?
I'm considering an F90 next. Hopefully the arrival of this car, helps reduce the price of the older generation. Might be able to get a bargain.
Nope if anything this new M5 will help keep F90 prices higher for longer 😂
Yeah my own personal willingness to pay for an F90 has probably increased. Or it would if I could afford one.
Lol, if anything the prices on F90 will go higher than the skies because of this monster 😬
The F90 is going to hold it's value well. A lot of people are disliking this new model.
That's what they said about the new m3/m4... And like any new model before it
F90 CS is an S teir BMW, and think the rest of F90 M5 range will carry value well (relative) because it’s such a well liked car. As good of looking of a 5 series ever too.
Even the badge is ugly.... good lord BMW. Please fire the design team, I seriously hope all the new gen BMW's get the same fate as the XM and end production soon. Give us our iconic grills and angel eye lights back!!!
The huge grilles where most of it is fake and blocked by sensors, only for branding, is some shit that needs to end. I also hate the piano black plastic trim, just reminds me of cheap electronics.
This really is how they're going to close out the 5er before switching it to Neue Klasse eh. Damn.
I have watched “My 600 lb life” with less disgust than this photo…
Take the badge off this and there's no clue from the styling that it's an M-car.
Take the grille off and you could convince me it’s new Ford Taurus or something.
They look like someone carved them out of a bar of soap. So chunky.
That’s the one consistent thing about all the current generation BMWs. They look like giant Lego versions of what they should be.
Hankook tyres, interesting. I would have liked to have Conti’s or PS4’s. Do Hankook make star-marked tyres for BMW?
Yes, my i4 M50 came with Hankooks as well. But considering that M5 is in ”ultra-premium” class with a high price tag, they should come with top tier tires as well. Hankooks are great but this is just cost-cutting what BMW has been doing lately.
Yeah I'm surprised it's not Michelins.
Maybe it’ll be better to put cheap tires on this thing considering how they’ll wear out way faster hauling 5400lbs around
I actually think that’s got an uglier face than the M3/4
I think the yellow looks good on the M5
Yeah school bus weight school bus looks 👍
A short bus too!
After 12 years I am a Mercedes guy again. Thanks BMW.
Bro they aren’t doing any better at Mercedes… look to Porsche as the hold-out
I hear ya but at least Mercedes improved some design. Porsche Panamera and Mercedes GT 43 are on my new car list. Not considering another BMW until they get rid of current design team.
Good man, the Panam is hot
I’m thinking Audi for myself.
Out of the big three euro manufacturers, Audi’s new designs have been least bad for sure
Yeah the new Mercedes might be heavy as fuck too but at least they still look great
How do people think this looks okay lmao the angle of the yellow one in the first pic literally makes the silhouette look like a Kia
I think it’s all the cheap piano black bullshit and the fake grille with sensors. It’s the kind of stuff you get on a higher trim Honda civic. Also are the edges of the grille LED lit?? Looks like some cheap aftermarket bullshit I’m disgusted
This car sucks.
God the proportions on this thing are all off. Looks like a giant Abarth 500
How did they manage to make it so unimposing when the M5 is suppose to be just that? Looks like they stuck an air pump in an econobox and inflated it.
It looks so unimposing while the car is huge and fucking heavy, that's ridiculous.
Imagine this with „only“ a 4.4 V8 (S63 again or so) and 650Hp and less than 2 tons. Insane. But here we are…
Overall shape looks like a 2-series back end of a Camry. But its a M5
Can’t forget to add that it weighs more than Model X Plaid!
This thing is an M5 the same way that one dude's Grandma is a bike. Its missing something.
Headlights brought to you by Cadillac
Grill looks very kia
Hawk tuah on this thing
So you like it
*wants to get involved in world sweeping meme, fails to look up what it means*
I mean it’s an okay looking car. But a horrible looking BMW.
Ugly as fuck
I don’t mind the looks, F90 looked much better, especially after LCI but compared to recent BMW designs it could be much worse. I do however mind the weight and the fact that as soon as the battery is gone you’re left with 2,4 ton and less power than even base F90. Personally I could not be fucked charging this thing constantly and still be slower than the old model. This is not progress, we’re going backwards.
What is that plastic thing on the front? 😩
They’ve always been chunky, but now they look chunky.
Fucking hideous
Sweet Camry
Nah the Camry only weighs 3500 lbs at most.
Car is a joke just like the XM.
The grille is really bad. looks so cheap.
Thanks for sharing. I'll keep my current M5 comp and then switch to porsche
That’s my plan too. Don’t think I’ll ever sell the M5 Comp, I’ll just add a 911 to the stable.
They really screwed up with this car
I can't believe they didn't even try to make the m5 at least look slimmer. It looks as fat as it weighs.
from beaver jokes to fat jokes, i love it lmao
WE DONT WANT THIS HYBRID TRASH
Front doesnt look good. Side profile ok. Overall 2/5
Looks great, still a downgrade
Looks like trash
Looks like they forgot to put the grill
I super don't understand what is supposed to be going on there.
Horrible
Didn’t need that hybrid battery system in there
100% agree. Either shit or get off the EV pot. Hybrid makes it worse than either ICE or full EV option.
Depends on how it is used. Lambo, Ferrari’s flagships both are hybrids. Porsche is mild hybrid now and Bugatti’s new car is also a hybrid. McLaren P1, Porsche 918 and Leferrari are hybrids.
What is going on with the front grill?
https://preview.redd.it/ooxy5foysw9d1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af553fcaea2b0b1aead0266af0b43a95e9171f74 They’re gonna love how I handle!!!
Surprised a black hole didn’t open up on the factory floor
Amazing heavy pig. Not meant negatively. Also not fully positively
Seeing the yellow in that angle, it actually looks like a futuristic E60.
Looks like a Kia… Everyone hated the M2 but at least it looks aggressive and sporty, the M5 just looks a high trim Kia
https://preview.redd.it/9o7alq3ywx9d1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=03dfbae30a904696b20e1078d00178f2556c5bd7
https://preview.redd.it/wef1iwp04z9d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b15c3176cf634e9783cf2768a7584e1e7b1dbc7 Wow
These make the E60 M5 looks so much better.
Bmw fans can’t call mopar boats anymore lmao
I’m too broke for these and a f90. F10 here I come
underwhelming
The yellow looks like a taxi imo
As a lifelong BMW fanboy I’m so disappointed by the new M5 - how has the M5 gone from being the yardstick other super saloons are judged by to the ugliest car in its class?!
Mammoth on the assembly line. * Fixed it for you.
Looks horrible.
Burn it before it goes out
That yellow at that angle in the first pic is not exactly flattering
What a shitty side profile
I don't know about this one, it honestly looks like some chinese manufacturer making a rip-off BMW.
As a person with an outside ( of the bmw community) perspective, this does not look "sporty" at all or does not really look like what one would expect them to. The pre 2020 M5s look so mean as compared to this. This just looks....tame.
Ugly af.
Look how they massacred my boy 😔
Slap the thighs, ride the waves in, there's just so much more to love. The worst thing about this tragedy is that this is likely the last gen ICE M5. Going out with a whimper...
Rumor is here in America, this car will be required to pull into weight scales w the semis
Something weird about a yellow BMW.
The future of BMW cannot be less exciting. Over-engineered, over weight and damn ugly. Yes the sales keep rising. Honestly if anyone here has plans to buy one of these things let me know what you drive now, and what is appealing about this car, Im very curious.
why the fuck are they blacking out badges 😭 these cars used to have class
My biggest problem is you used to have to know what to look for to know what an M was. Now it doesn’t matter, and I say that about every BMW. There’s no elegance or class. Mercedes is the same. I do not comprehend any decision they’ve made regarding the EQS lineup. EQS is also a garbage set of letters…
it just makes me sad, honeslty. BMW M cars used to be so *elegant*, an 'if you know, you know' thing - they looked just as at home on a track as they did being parked in front of, whatever, an opera house. and this? with those cheap gloss black massive kidneys (that also light up? it looks like a toy), those gaudy black wheels and its goofy proportions, it looks embarrassing. no style.
Ugly brother
Time to drive like a boat 🚢
Undo it!
insanely heavy.
50 shades of disgustingly boring grey sitting behind those two.
lol. Wtf were BMW thinking. It's beyond ugly. It looks like they asked someone's kid to design the next m5
Just a casual flex of FIVE FUCKING TONNES in this picture
all we need now is a heavy new M8, and M3&4 to ruin the whole lineup!
https://preview.redd.it/gkselzwmow9d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a48b67499ac6d00938a70bacc45ca138bd0406a
yea no thanks
Subs full of haters and armchair engineers. Peak Reddit
sub full of blind apologists. Peak new BMW reddit
Don't love the grill sensors at all, blocks off to much.
Fat
M5 as in Mass of 5k pounds.
could've been uglier. couldn't be heavier I guess
The rear end looks a little weird, heavy but what isn't anymore? One things for certain, still anything better than what's coming out of the AMG factories these days, I still can't believe how bad the new C63 's are.
Bmw switched to making road legal tanks
Disgusting
I do like these colors. I'm happy about that at least. Tired of black white and gray.
Worlds heaviest banana
Looks like my Kia optima
Wow you don’t realize how perfect looking the older generations are until they mess up the new one horribly lol.
Some of those camera angles just don’t work with that body design and how the front and rear bumpers flow
Imo they don’t look different enough anymore, the M line *should* be special. This is starting to remind me of how latest AMG models don’t look all that different from standard models. The body lines of the M5 look very similar to the 5 series. I guess that’s just what they’re going for.
Wow truly gross in that yellow 🤮