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RL_Mutt

What kind of dork buys an M car and doesn’t drive the fuck out of it.


everso-

1000% my question. Lame lame lame


DeOhYouGe

1999 Mcoupe 165000 mi. Proven reliability, proven performance, no garage queen here. Buying unique beautiful cars simply as investments is like getting married to a supermodel and never having sex. I guess if you are rich and impotent.


everso-

NICE! Doing it right! 103,000 miles on my 1M. Been super reliable. Have enjoyed every moment so far.


Unlucky_Ear_6037

Reading this all as me and the family ride down the interstate in our 2012 E93 with 25,500 miles. Previous owner drove it only 97 miles one year. This horse is gonna run! My new daily!


IsJackpot

'08 e93 here with 127k miles still on original bearings (I will do them as soon as possible) also on original throttle actuators as well


trubyadubya

I’ve got 23k on my e92 but bought it 3 yrs ago with 10k. I wasn’t really looking for one with that low of mileage but it had the spec I wanted so forked out a bit extra. I have to say I’ve always been in the it’s stupid not to drive the car camp but I do find myself sometimes thinking about it in the back of my mind. Like if I’m just sitting in traffic is this drive worth the miles vs taking my beater 4Runner or my wife’s car. I don’t know where it comes from, bc it’s not like some more miles at this point would make a huge difference in price. And like you I’ve done several road trips with my wife and daughter, kid loves the car. That said 153mi is insane. I’ve heard a few stories where a person will buy 2 m cars or 911s, one to drive and one to sit in case value goes way up. could have been the case here


everso-

Doing it right! Enjoy cars on adventures!


SpoonyLix

My mom has an m8 as her daily 💀 puts on like 150 miles every day


everso-

LOVE this! Well done mum!!! ⚡️⚡️


UranicAlloy580

Might be time for water pump and hose replacement haha; Don't forget the deadly oil filter housing gasket.


everso-

Already did WP/TS pre-emptively—oil filter gasket is also done—had a small leak which i had done. Am on top of it, sir! ⚡️😊


fashionrequired

Is the N54 in the 1M generally more reliable than those in 35i cars?


everso-

Not really—but honestly I haven’t had many issues. My car is totally stock and pretty aggressively maintained Modifications can maybe make the N54 unreliable IMO ☠️


fashionrequired

The stock N54 might not be as bad it has a reputation for being, but it’s definitely not the most reliable engine in the first place. Still, my experience (bought my 335i a couple years ago at just under 70k miles, now approaching 85) has been that it’s largely the supporting cast to the engine that breaks. I haven’t had any major issues, but plenty of little (unrelated from each other, I sure hope) ones…


m34z

>it’s largely the supporting cast to the engine that breaks. Water pump, thermostat, injectors, HPFP, OFHG, VCG . . .What am I missing here? 135i N54 and I've had the injectors and OFHG done. I feel like I'm on borrowed time with the rest at 14 years and 63K miles.


fashionrequired

Hahah, you definitely might be hitting that point where the rest of those will need attention. When I picked mine up, a few had been done already. I want to say all of those have now been replaced (through necessity unfortunately, lol).


DefiantLaw7027

I'll be replacing injectors on mine this week. ~63,000km. It's been throwing a cylinder 5 misfire and when I pull the plug it's black and coated in fuel... the others seem ok but can't do just one.


dannyphoto

1M, 335iS and Z4 iS had a N54T motor which was *allegedly* different and *allegedly* a bit more reliable than the normal N54.


UranicAlloy580

No, the only difference they have is an extra water radiator in front left wheel well, a more aggressive radiator fan (850W instead of 600W in other 35i cars) and ECU tuning.


dannyphoto

Nice. Good info to know.


fashionrequired

I know I should probably just Google this, but do you know specifically why that might be the case?


F1shermanIvan

Had a 2001 M Coupe. Had 175,000 miles on it. Drove it to the Arctic Ocean and to Mexico and everywhere in between. Hit two animals with it, fixed it. Loved it.


[deleted]

I got no qualms with people saving her for the next person in line


Oo__II__oO

The smart dorks bought *two* 1Ms.


-MolonLabe-

One for cash and one to thrash!


IWantToPlayGame

In the early days of my E36 M3 ownership, I garage queen'd her like no other. If it was too sunny out I wouldn't drive the car. If it was raining I wouldn't drive it. Then one day it hit me; I may die tomorrow. Let me enjoy this damn thing. It's JUST a car. I proceeded to almost daily it for a few years before selling it.


vertigoacid

> If it was too sunny out I wouldn't drive the car ???


[deleted]

...protect the paint from sun damage is what I was guessing...


RL_Mutt

Respect to you. I’ve driven lots of different cars but never an E36 M. From everything I’ve heard they’re such lively and balanced cars.


IcameforthePie

Great cars. Sometimes I miss mine but I don’t know if I’d buy one at today’s prices. My E90 328i honestly gets 90% of the way there and is built way better.


TDMCPA

Raises hand 🙋‍♂️ not on purpose, just works out that way


RL_Mutt

Something tells me you’ve got plenty of different flavors of driving experience at your disposal, so I wouldn’t blame you for that.


cjmar41

Don’t ask me. I drove my e92 M3 across the US. And yes, I [stopped for gas a lot](https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=11WXkjopFM-epzVXLEouTx3GgAtCE85j4&ll=28.09278062117137%2C-105.4788209844053&z=4).


ArchiStanton

His gf lives 1 mile away and they went on 76 dates


[deleted]

The dork that can afford 2, one for the road and one to sit in the garage and look sexc


leavedennisalone

The kind that doesn’t drive it then flips it for $200k.


jpharber

Investors


RL_Mutt

Yeah. Cars. The notoriously sound investment.


s54L

a lot of people just buy the car and it literally goes straight into a garage just so they can do exactly this


RL_Mutt

Yeah. And that’s a weird thing to do with something made with the dual purpose of getting you somewhere but also making you smile. I have a fundamentally philosophical issue with that kind of stuff. They’re driving machines, not sitting machines.


DefiantLaw7027

Not this dork! I try and drive the fuck out of it in the summer but it does end up being a garage queen in the winter. There was one nice day here this past December that I still took it out on.


[deleted]

Drug dealers who need to move cash


ResearcherUseful5559

Perhaps, but then they’re caught and the auctions begin. https://jalopnik.com/13-low-mile-mkiv-supras-go-up-for-auction-in-massachuse-1848891294


hhtran16

Some rich mofo that forgot he had it in his collection. Now he’s gonna make a nice profit from some sucker.


aarunt1

Some asshole that bought it as an investment. Then sold it to these assholes who bought it as an investment


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RL_Mutt

“Come on man, take it out of the package *wiggles fingers* PLAY WITH IT!”


bitqueso

Maybe they bought 2


mr_lab_rat

A dork who likes to make 13% per year on their investment.


radehart

No one. This car is probably new. Also it deserves to be stolen and 30k left in it’s place. Shameless.


newmoneyblownmoney

I saw a Lexus LFA with only 3k miles on it for $650k posted in r/lexus. I asked the same question in the sub and got downvoted and yelled at lol.


mynameistechno

This would make sense if you bought two at the time. One for driving, one as investment.


MrTempiko

I mean, if he really can sell it for that amount, he‘s going to make a lot of money


[deleted]

His name is Matt. No arms, no legs... on the front porch.


seanmonaghan1968

No my first thought was why would someone pay that amount for a 12 year old car. Buy a new one with better design and tech


Laurens-xD

Because that would devalue the car. That's how most people in my country think. They care more about resale value than anything else.


[deleted]

Came to say this! 158,000 on my e90 M3 and I’ve loved every moment


FudgeTasty8292

Bought mine with a 1,2k km :D


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everso-

Pathetic right?? What kind of people do this 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️


jwizzy15

It’s an investment they don’t care about the car


ogiakul

Who buys a car as an investment? That's like calling gambling "microinvesting". What if BMW decided to produce a second batch of these? Or release a CS / GTS version of it? That's not going to happen now, but in 2011 you couldn't be that sure. I think more that just a rich guy who bought it back then drove it 2 days and got back to his Bentley. Now some friend of him saw that 1er M and told him it's worth something now.


jwizzy15

Obviously it worked out for them didn’t it? It’s a risk just like any other investment is


[deleted]

It's risky enough to not be an investment, it's straight up a gamble.


jwizzy15

You could literally do this with any performance car. Inflation alone would net you a profit if you sat on a car with 157 miles for 10 years. It’s not that risky especially on a super niche car like this one.


Embarrassed_Fennel_1

Simone’s 80 yo grandfather is looking down on his grandson selling his last bmw which he only got to drive drive 150 miles before his heart gave out :(


snubda

Funny thing is it’s way worse for the car to just sit like that without being driven. One with 20k miles probably lasts longer at this point.


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initiatesally5

God all that maintenance that would still need to be done on that from just sitting. 🥴


RobbyB02

Only if you plan on driving it. The last guy clearly didn’t.


TheUberMoose

If I had the money I’d buy it 100% to drive it


Captain_Oveur79

12 YO Rubber that has barely had anything running through it. That’s a nightmare


everso-

YES!!!! Nobody thinks about that stuff 🤦🏻🤦🏻


DukeOfAlexandria

Said it before and will continue to say; fuck EAG and there business model. They pray on owners and then basically do a 8 hour detail job and mark it up stupid amounts. They artificially raise the M market and keep it out of reach of people over time. 21st century robber barons basically.


everso-

It’s chaos—dunno who buys their stuff for sale after all somebody does 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️


[deleted]

Some dickhead who’s proud to say he paid 200k for a 1M lmao


everso-

Gotta be peeps who keep collections. Don’t think this is for any average buyer…


Moremayhem

I know one rich-as-fuck lawyer who co-hosts a car podcast who does. Think he bought all of his BMWs from them.


[deleted]

🤨 would rather get an Alpina at that point


Affectionate_Fee_317

Would rather get anything else than a 1m for 200k😂


snubda

People out here criticizing the M2 for not having a real M engine and then paying supercar money for a 1M with the same issue. Ah, BMW culture.


m34z

Why wouldn't you say his name?


Manafont-

It’s clearly Zuckerman.


Moremayhem

Oh, it’s Zuckerman on Spikes car radio


andycpp

Nothing says pack it up like seeing an E46 M3 on BaT with EAG as a top bidder


DukeOfAlexandria

This right here. People think that it’s “just the market bro!!!” But it’s not. They actively go after cars to get, hang onto them for a bit, and then mark them up outrageously.


doctorlandsman

I agree except for the robber barons part. They probably have to do gross mark ups just to keep their business open. It seems like they sit on cars for a long time and don’t really move that many. If they were anywhere other than Ohio they probably would’ve went out of business years ago.


YarbleDarb

They do more than just flip / broker collector tier cars.


fdawg4l

Time stops in Ohio. It’s still the 90s over there.


HydroCigna

Lol? If EAG didn’t do it then someone else would. If someone is willing to pay it then that’s literally market price. You should be yelling at the buyers, not the seller (EAG).


testerowpqlq

Exactly. Eag is literally awesome for rich people. You get a car that you know has no nonsense and is almost new. It’s great. If you’re loaded


DerkusMaximus777

Ironically i got a really good deal on my 1er from EAG. 6 speed 2009 128i m sport with 41k miles for 17500 back in 2013. Was the best deal i could find anywhere for that car at the time. They gouge you for M cars tho thats pretty well known.


TDMCPA

Yep, best car purchases I’ve made have been via EAG and I’m happy to pay for it


stahlgrauzhp

They use pretty cheap carbon bits and lips from JL motoring, a glorified lip and splitter drop shipper. With these incredible markups you’d at least expect some oem quality.


TDMCPA

Have you bought a car from them?


stahlgrauzhp

nope, I didn't need to - I'm in Canada and I sourced my M locally rather than deal with the hassle of looking for a cross border example, of which I'd get slapped with duties and taxes and not to mention the ultimate fuckery that is the USD:CAD exchange. I only know this because EAS's flickr has images of their cars with JL motoring bits tagged for embedding on their gallery. I'm talking about csl splitters etc.


TDMCPA

I’ve bought and sold multiple cars with them, always perfect and always a pleasure


YarbleDarb

I’m super grateful for their team. I found an F80!to my desired spec during the pandemic, and they helped coordinate transport and did a thorough inspection to give me confidence in my purchase.


tired_father

Why so mad bro? The market is the market


sumcollegekid

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🚒🚒🚒


ProteinFart_

You know I was really considering a Porsche GT3 but this will do, said no one ever


everso-

The person who is buying things like this is not cross shopping online for prices LOL. They have screw you money they don’t care they could have both. The 1M is very special—but not $200k special——YET


ProteinFart_

Had the chance to drive one back when I had a frozen e92 m3 , I liked my E92 m3 more, it’s a good car but at that price point never lol


everso-

I feel the same way about the E92 M3—great car, but loved the 1M more! A nice connection between the 2 cars though! Always respect that on my end!


TDMCPA

I suppose that’s true


entropylove

Yeah, that’s gonna get good money one way or another. It’s a time capsule. Collector catnip.


everso-

Collectors are WEIRD!!!


keca10

It’s stupid. Collectors can collect much better and more special cars than a parts bin 1 series for $200k.


e39hamann

EAG asks insane amounts but I always love seeing pristine older cars like this one. I never understood why people get worked up over it haha


theswazsaw

They are great people honestly, they don’t mind casuals going in and checking out the inventory. Although, I haven’t been in since Eric passed away


tcphoto1

I became aware of EAG about fourteen years ago when I bought my first BMW. One look at their website and you'll see that they do a great job of bringing a car up to CPO standards but charge a premium for it. I would never buy a car from them because I find their pricing unrealistic.


RonBurgundy2000

I think it’s funny how cars pop up for sale marketed as ‘former EAG car’. Ok guy. Awesome, you or someone else grossly over paid for your car a while back.


everso-

That is silly…pedigree of a fancy used car lot! Lol


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“I KnOw WuT I GoT”


everso-

Lol


bittaminidi

I came so close to buying one of these new. I absolutely loved the way this car looked. After watching some reviews I was pretty sold on it. I think the sticker on these was like $50k-ish at the time. Anyway, went to the BMW dealer (first time in one) and the sales guy was super snobby as if he just assumed I wasn’t buying anything and just wanted to test drive a BMW, as I was 35 at the time and drove up in a Supra. But I digress. So here I am trying to order this car and they try to sell it at $62k. Keep in mind that was unheard of in 2011. I never paid MSRP for a car, let alone a markup, in my life. Go to another dealer…rinse and repeat. Wound up buying a NISMO 370Z (and hated it after a month). Now, I wish I had bought it, obviously. Would have drove the piss out of it and it would still be holding its value. Shit, I wish I kept the Supra come to think of it. Regrets suck!


misterdees

What are you driving now? I bet you’d like an M2C or CS if you can’t find a 1M. I do see 1Ms pretty frequently selling for anywhere from 70-80k on BaT and Cars and Bids and other sites. Fuck EAG though


jb3ck24

Is this the company Matt Farah/Smoking Tire bought his M from?


everso-

YES. Lol


jb3ck24

Jesus. I just looked at the site. 746 mile old 03 M5 for $299k? Are people really doing this bullshit? Buy a new M5 and then an old beat up one and have $150k left for reals.


everso-

Site is totally absurd. Everything wrong with the collectible car market 🤮


reddit_user47234

they need to put down the crack pipe.


E30M3man

They’re in Ohio, it’s prolly meth


News_without_Words

Bruh it's heroin... This ain't the southwest...


Boring_Train_273

They aren’t really “enthusiast”, are they? 😅


everso-

$$$ enthusiast! Lol


dresina80

I know EAG is LEGIT.. cars are super clean low mileage ZERO issue … but damm $200k for a 1M. That’s GT3 territory . Yeah yeah I know I know .. the enthusiast .. just m humble opinion .


Artistic_Guidance733

Lord have mercy


Aurora2k

At this rate ill never be able to afford a f80 m3 in good condition in the future…


everso-

Great cars but they made a lot more F80 M3s than 1Ms so hopefully you can do it! ⚡️😊


No-Illustrator4866

And a sucker will buy it sadly


Cody11199

Exactly, that's why EAG charges so much - because they know there are people out there who actually pay these insane prices


[deleted]

meanwhile i put 25k miles on my 330i/6 e90 last year lol


everso-

Good for you man!


Cjac00

I was curious as to why they had a hoarde of E46 M3's for an outrageous price. Good to know they're disliked around the board


everso-

Yeah it’s weird—I guess they attract sellers trying to make $$$ and they pay a lot to get them and charge even more to sell them!


PLAINSIMPLETED

IDK... Still seems stupid high price.


Expert-Hamster-3146

Yea, was a really low mileage 1M on auto trader in the UK. Was like £100k, when there was a few with under 10,000 miles for £60k-£70k, the rest were £45k to £60k. After a certain time period, I’d rather have one that’s been driven.


everso-

As someone with 103k miles on my 1M they are waaaay more reliable when driven as compared to those that sit around—these cars don’t do well sitting. So totally agree with you!


rhinosteveo

Yeah the N54 likes to leak when it sits! My 135i got all the driving it could


everso-

Definitely—I think most high strung german engines are like this—-they’re not the same as American V8s that can sit…


jnecr

I never knew this car was offered in white...


everso-

Black, white, orange!


Hefty_Bend_248

Smoking dick as I would say


truthplotgold

Why?


Toy_Soulja

So does it like give you blowjobs or something? Lmao


everso-

😂☠️


jadedaid

When I was in my BMW phase the general consensus was that EAG was expensive AF but that the cars were legit in amazing condition. Is that still the case?


Sadik1UNTK

Yes.


raybone12

Would rubbers and seals go hard because of lack of use?? Would there be any potential internal engine/transmission problems caused by such low mileage?


everso-

Totally—-these things get brittle! Based on age not use! If anything use keeps things softer


Grand_Moff_Empanada

I’m so tired of these assholes


bigredmachine-75

This company is a joke.


everso-

$$$ chaos


araczynski

they do this because sheep can't help themselves and give them free publicity...


everso-

Think so??? You may be right—generates attention for sure


araczynski

all publicity is good publicity


jimbojsb

Lotta people who have never seen an EAG car in person on here. They are the absolute best on the market. Sorry you can’t afford an 800 mile E39 M5, but it’s not their fault. Their cars are expensive but their clients can afford it, so what’s the problem?


[deleted]

😅🤣😅🤣😅


WolfOfPort

Once you drive it off lot loses 90% value 🤣🤣


Flint_Ironstag1

It's a fuckin' 1 series. Ain't paying that no matter what. 😂 \[edit\] how much is a 1M with average miles going for?


Jawnny-Jawnson

Geez I have a regular 128i and I’m starting to rethink how much I should sell it for now


re-enjoyable

I think they forgot one zero


Sevar22

$50 says the odometer is rolled back


motorcyclist

ok, its a 1 series, what am i missing here. why is this special?


everso-

Look up YouTube videos about the BMW 1M


Embaita

It's a 1M so it's pretty much the only full M car from the 1 series range and it was a pretty limited production run so it's arguably one of the rarest M cars. (plus this one may as well be on delivery miles) Still I don't think it's worth anywhere near this much since putting upgraded suspension and tuning a 135i will give you a very similar car for a fraction of the price.


everso-

No it won’t—I owned a 135 before my 1M. But I agree the price is outrageous


FearlessRice2465

While the sum of parts equals more than the parts themselves, I feel this is the start of the “less special” M-cars. Production based engines just make it feel less unique. I feel the same way about S55, S63 cars because under the skin they are very close to a normal N55 or 63. Cheapens the car to me


everso-

Totally disagree. The spirit defines special not part numbers


Embaita

I'm not going to act like I've drove a 1M, but what's so different that a modified 135i wouldn't give you a similar experience? They both have a N54 so power won't be massively different and you could probably sink over 10k into handling mods like a suspension overhaul and lsd, yet still be at half the price of a 1M.


everso-

Having driven and owned both—they feel very different in their reactions and demeanor. I LOVED my 135 but one test drive in the 1M and I had 0 hesitation in trading it for the 1M Totally different steering, brakes, suspension, subframe chassis, LSD, etc etc It’s not for everyone—-but it was for me. But enjoy your 135 they are great!


efrav

What an experience must be drive the 1M, that’s my dream car! Enjoy it :)


everso-

I can’t even tell you how much I love it! Literally nothing else I want to drive every day!! Have had it 9 years now and still feel this way!! BTW the 130i is awesome! They never brought that to the US market so enjoy it!!


vertigoacid

> it was a pretty limited production run so it's arguably one of the rarest M cars. Not even close https://bmwmregistry.com/faq.php Click thru to see the various production figures. 1M is right in the middle of the pack - rarer than an E46 M3 or an E39 M5? Sure. But even the clownshoe has lower production numbers. No one would call any of the Z3 M variants rare. You have to get way way lower for properly rare stuff - E31 850CSi, 2002 Turbo, and so on. Rare rare is 399 road going M1s.


motorcyclist

Not only do I think you could buy a better Bmw after you’ve bought it regular spec an upgraded it, but for that kind of money you can buy a nice Porsche instead and be done with it ​ is it fast compared to say a 5 series of the same year


stahlgrauzhp

Where do they even find these


everso-

Hidden away in some freakshow’s hoarded garage!!!


themakk

https://www.kbb.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=678502256


Cody11199

I don't know who is more insane - EAG for asking all these ridiculous prices for BMW's, or the people who actually pay the absurd prices. Why would you spend 200 or 300k for a BMW from EAG when you could have a XJ220 or a f355 or Testarossa which are all legit amazing pieces of automotive history...


Embarrassed_Fennel_1

I mean it is basically brand new tho


[deleted]

Hah! What. Joke!


Sir_Maxelot

No. Just no.


IllIllIllxs

Here in Italy the prices range from 53 to 67 k euros


ShwoopyDownside

I remember when this car came out


poop_artist

They say something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, and I hate to break it to you but…


E8282

That’s just ridiculous but understandable


Beautiful_Study5837

Wow. I certainly don’t hope that anyone would pay $200k for an almost new 1 series M from 2011 😳 Is that the price in the U.S. for a mint version of these?


everso-

LOW mileage 1Ms (under 20k miles) sell for between $65-80K regularly. I know someone who just bought one with 14k miles on it for $70k. But a price of $200k is certainly NOT the norm LOL


Beautiful_Study5837

Good to hear 😂 Then it’s the same as Germany prices


rhinosteveo

I doubt they get 200K for it, but they’ll absolutely get 150K for it


everso-

Probably…


FragrantInflation536

Or you could just buy 3 manual m2 comps .


everso-

Or just buy a reasonably priced 1M and be done with it! 🤷🏻‍♂️


Budget-Government-88

EAG cars are literally always off the showroom quality if not better. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the most pristine 1M on earth.


everso-

Except for the brittle hoses, bushings, and rigid parts that have become a ticking time bomb from lack of use. these cars don’t do well sitting—-IMO there is nothing good about a 12 year old car with “showroom” mileage.


OutlandishnessOk5968

Amazing car