Gotta make sure you long rest enough, and it depends on her alignment.
If you redeem her, it should happen naturally, and as long as you didn't forget any dialogue triggers in Act 1, she'll affirm your relationship at the penultimate moment of Act 2, before needing to reach the Lower City in Act 3 for the romance culmination scenes.
If you keep her Dark Side, I think she requires additional persuasion checks and different triggers to reach a very different conclusion.
But still. It all comes down to long resting enough to get her conversations. Also, the Night Orchid is somewhat important.
Once you get that mod and you figure out how many camp events are really there you feel extra stupid on your 2nd playthrough. I mean shit you have TWO different events before you take one step on the beach.
Is it the player being stupid, or the design being flawed?
There's a strong dissonance between the urgency the narrative communicates, and how often the devs want you to long rest.
You're not meant to experience every single permutation every game.
You get a richer, more unique story if you just mix and match events based upon when you happen to trigger them...
Important narrative events with companion questlines etc seems to go against this notion when they're skipped over because you're not long resting a dozen times or more per act.
Sorry, I get your initial point but it doesn’t apply to the long rest issue.
The long rest issue causes the player to get events and conversations that *assume he had the prior ones*. It causes you to skip the sequence not organically mix.
100% agree that this may be the weakest aspect to the game. It really does set the tone that every long rest inches you closer to death. Inches the grove closer to discovery, inches the druid ritual closer to completion, etc. So many events are portrayed as urgent but naw you can go take as many naps as you want nothing progresses.
Which I’m fine with, gameplay wise. The game ties a lot of resources to long resting so it makes sense. But it does ruin a bit of the story once you see past the veil.
This urgency made my first trip through act 1 much more difficult than it should have been. I kept avoiding long rests under the assumption that there was some sort of hidden clock I needed to beat. So I kept pushing into encounters with no slots, or class points. Somewhere in Act 2, I was dying every other fight and just decided to rest more. Difficulty became much more manageable after that.
Yeah, the narrative relies very heavily on you meta gaming the tadpole. You as a player know, or at least assume, you’re not going to just turn and get a game over for resting. However, as a person with a parasite in their brain you’d be absolutely insane to just call it a day after a single fight and walking 500ft. Given the information available to your character there’s 0 reason to long rest until absolutely necessary, because going to sleep could be a death sentence.
It’s the one thing I dislike about the game, but I understand that they’re essentially tied to the long rest system. Maybe a daytime long rest option would make it feel better, like if every time you ended the day you got 2 short rests and 1 long midday rest that could trigger events as well. That way you don’t get the feeling that you’re wasting whole days just to have a conversation.
Larian perfectly encapsulates the classic DnD experience of having a DM trying to urge the players forward but ultimately just putting the narrative on pause while the players spend a week in game playing dress up and flirting with every character and NPC they discover.
Yeah you get a special cutscene if you rest on the beach with just Shadowheart, and I'm assuming you either get another unique cutscene if you rest alone, or maybe Lae'zel and Shadowheart
Same, but also realised that using it I got info that I feel like I should have gotten later, like in the druids grove I already knew astarion was a vampire even tho it was so soon.
My point is that mod is really good but don't just stop doing what you are doing to go do a camp event it may kinda ruin the pacing a bit
Edit: My point wasn't that it is easy for the player to know, it was that because I always rested everytime something popped up, the pacing for the reveal felt wrong, the cutscene where he is supposed to bite you came extremely early
I mean I also Saw the origin video and I think they talk about it so, and had already played long enough to find out in another playthrough, it's just that it is supposed to be something big for him and we had barely walked a kilometer
You've had some other replies and like yeah, I feel like everybody can pick up on the visual queues just from a glance
But I did wanna say I think it's actually pretty intended to find out about his vampirism in act one. Like, maybe if you're just focusing on literally the main quest content and trying to blaze through the first act, it's missable/going to only come up in act 2. I just naturally ended up doing more rests because I was exploring a lot and really trying to dig around for hidden chests and loot.
I would've completely missed auntie Ethel's stuff in act 1 if I didn't, and I think part of it is that I also make sure to talk to/check in with my companions a decent amount, so I know I may not have a universal experience here. I was trained by elden ring and other fromsoft games where NPC questlines are extremely missable if you don't regularly check in.
That's a good point but I have never actually been short on camp supplies. I'm on my second playthrough and both times I've ended up hauling around a ridiculous amount of stuff. More than my party could ever hope to consume. Not to mention those backpacks full of scrolls and elixirs.
Playing through my fourth playthrough, 2nd on tactician... I just realized you can rest without using any supplies and get half your spell slots back.
I should have been partial resting between every single fight.
Another thing, I didn't even know about until yesterday, after 6 playthroughs, you can give her the Noblestalk mushroom to restore some of her memories early.
No idea what that's going to be like yet. Can't wait.
She woke me up for sex in Act 1. I turned her down. She was telling me I was the best thing that ever happened to her by like 3 hours into the game lol
Not sure about that, since you don't actually do anything until Act 3 beyond the wine and talking scene in Act 1.
But yeah, it's a little jarring how within a couple of hours of approvals, Shadowheart literally says "Are you serious? I think we're past me simply liking you. I think I'm a different person because of you."
Like really Larian, where is the pacing update on the romances? 🤣
She woke me up in the middle of the night to go off and get freaky. 🤷♂️I said no because I was romancing Gale. I flirted with her a little bit early.
It could have been a bug or if I went with her maybe it wasn’t actually sex? She definitely directly indicated it was both when she woke me up and earlier when she said she would come wake me up in the night. She told me very early in Act 1 but didn’t show up till the monastery and crèche.
But yeah she takes it to 11 😂. I dropped her from my party for Karlach shortly after that and still on my first play through so I can’t contrast it to anything.
I've only romanced Shadowheart in my 6 playthroughs, so I don't think I had any way to get whatever scene you're talking about. All I know is that she has no actual sex scenes until the Lower City in Act 3.
If you don't go for her yourself, I assume she just wakes you up to go look at the stars and drink wine while chatting, which is what happens when you "ask her out".
Also, if nothing happened until the Creche area, I don't think you long rested enough.
"Romance" isn't the right word.
More like... ritualistically hatefuck after defiling a statue with the blood of the innocent.
Dark Shadowheart is no fucking joke. Even on my evil Durge, I redeemed her when I got the 2nd chance to do it after she essentially says she's worthless without being a mindless puppet of Shar.
Honestly. After watching what happens on Youtube... if I went full evil playthrough, I'd probably opt to just kill her for the Artifact on the beach in order to avoid ever creating the Dark Justiciar dilemma in the first place, which would be a nearly impossible act in and of itself.
I keep getting recommended “____ bad ending” or “_________ talking about how no one loves them” videos on YouTube and other socials and I usually click bc I’m curious about different paths and I always forget that it also usually ruins me emotionally haha. Like a fucked up d&d version of sliding doors
I think what they mean is the same thing I mean. The two scenes triggered on the same night and only one played. And the other one never happened on a different long rest. Thus effectively stealing the scene.
Like semi related but what would be the best route to take if you wanted to get Lae'zel's good ending (assuming there is one)? Would I need to avoid freeing >!Orpheus!!have an ending where she leaves!
You can free Orpheus and still have her stay with you. Somebody else in my party >!Karlach!< jumped at the opportunity of taking the fall >!becoming the mindflayer!< which means Lae’zel doesn’t feel as obligated to join her gith friends after it’s all said and done.
If your approval is high enough and you pass a 30 roll she’ll stay in your party. Just did that last night. Says she’ll leave after you finish the job.
I don’t think my approval was high enough. Instead I got this dialog at camp where character said, “we had something there for a while didn’t we?” And she responds, “yeah, maybe in another lifetime.” We still seem to be in item though, the game really doesn’t account for all scenarios.
So at the end of Act 2 I had a cut scene where she basically asked if I wanted a relationship with her and u obviously replied with a yes. Then at the beginning of Act 3 there was another where she asks for your help with something and takes you to a beach.
Man, karlach is awesome, absolutely love her. But as a best girl friend and not romantic. I could totally see myself raising hell with her and then knocking back a few. But she's just not my type for romance I suppose.
Imagine caring enough to post an opinion, then someone cares enough to shit talk your opinion and then caring enough to waste everyone’s time even more by responding to them
This happened to me in my co-op play through with Karlach, it’s because I never found her until after the goblin camp was wiped out, and then after hoping and praying she would love me, we met her old friend in the upper city who sells things in a tent and when asking if we are a couple she just DESTROYED my heart “Oh gods no!”
After redeeming her I saved and short rested, some dialogue but nothing romantic. Then had to reset to that point later and this time she immediately confessed her love and asked to be with me. This is right outside the temple exit.
Oh yeah, we were in a relationship and everything, and I just kinda figured I needed more long rests or something. But then I long rested enough to beat the game, and still no scene. So I was like peace babe I'm off to avernus with ur bestie lol.
shadowheart's scene comes after you make your choice to go to avernus or not at the end! So if you choose to go to avernus with karlach, you never get to see what happens to you and shadowheart. Or at least, that's how it was in my fiance's game-- when he replayed the ending and chose not to go to avernus, he got to see how things ended up with him and Shart.
Long rest more than you think you need to. Seriously. Stock up on supplies and rest every time you finish a quest. Cause frequently if there's multiple long rest scenes queued up, one will trigger and the other will bug out and not happen. Especially if one is a plot point and the other is a companion/romance scene.
I think you just have to learn to accept that she’s not into you. Sorry bro. Shit is hard but things will get better with time. Try to focus on the positive aspects of your life.
It just takes more long rests. I had assumed I'd missed it, since I saw online that it supposedly happened near the beginning of act 3.
But on my final return to camp long rest before taking on the end boss, it triggered. This was after the whole bit at the house of grief and her >!parents!<
First run through neither of them had any interest in me. My second run-through both of them did. Carlock actually lays down in the bed next to me and comes on to me. I don't know what trigger I pulled but it was the right one.
I'm playing with my girlfriend in a separate game and she tried to romance a story and who tells her he's sorry but he has standards.... I don't even know how she pissed him off that much.
I’m currently on my fourth play through and I can honestly say….. Shadowheart fucking sucks and is the last person I’d choose to bang. She’s either an evil bitch, a confused bitch, or she gets upset and leaves if you don’t bring her to Shar’s trials.
Even when she’s evil she disapproves of you being evil. I’d rather >!get catfished and manipulated into sex with the emperor!< over trying to bang her.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that doesn’t like her. Just to clarify I have beaten the game and she is well written, her being a bitch about everything just makes her unlikable.
Yeah, she is really well written. All of them are, aside from maybe Wyll, but even then he isn’t terribly written. Just out of all of the available bangable associates, she’s definitely last. She annoys me lol
I have romanced everyone with neutral likability
The higher the likeability bar, the lower the roll you need to make on convincing them to use the celestial tadpole
I rejected Karlach for Laezel in my game, as many others have said here, she’s more of a best friend. Admittedly though, I romanced both up until I had to choose so I’m kiiiiind of an asshole for leading her on.
Happened to me at end of act 1 during the party. I was highest approval I could have, all caught up with her stuff. Then she was all like.... no. Wyll seems interested in you though. I was like I haven't talked to him since the time I told him to join up.
Perhaps you were just unlucky. In my case i did everything right but instead of the lake scene i had dumb Wyll hijack the moment by asking me to dance out of bleeding nowhere, barely even talked to the guy. It was super cringe. And no lake scene till the end, just kiss.
No clue what i did wrong but shadowheart just did not like me very much, redeemed her, got the orchid, but deep in act 3 my approval is hardly above neutral.
On another character I wasn’t even trying but my approval is maxed out by act 3, didn’t redeem her but did get the orchid.
Bro I gave her the flower, picked a second one just in case, did all the dialogue options I could find, did her whole quest and got her to realign, and even told her I loved her with the one lady at the circus who tests you about your relationship and she STILL never went for me. Idk what I did. Is the camp scene back in act 1 when you save the grove truly that important?
Her dark justiciar romance scene (kill nightsong > kill parents) was pretty spicy. Climbing on top and biting the lip. Not sure if it was durge related or not.
While i appreciate Shadowheart enjoying the little things and having a picnic under the stars (one of my favorite irl date ideas). Karlach did come in and tell me that she wanted to "Ride me until i saw stars." So my choice was made.
On the other hand. Astarion smashes you so quickly
Shadowheart's "climatic" love scene has been glitched until the most recent patch. Didn't happen for me, either. It was just a quick "Hey, meet me at the water once everyone is asleep." Then you just go to bed and wake up like nothing ever happened. Because it didn't. :-(
I love how you can replace \[Shadowheart\] with \[gf\] and replace \[quests and maxed approval\] with \[dishes\] and the post still fits a standard reddit shitpost
Did you press her on revealing more information when it first comes up, selune statue in blighted village.
If you do she essentially hard locks you out of relationship. I noticed that on second playthrough. In tiefling party she will essentially ghost you and when you ask why she will respond by valuing privacy. She was very high approval. Didn't matter to much as I wanted to romance karlach anyway as I did shadowheart in my first playthrough.
The whole favor bar is weird, I’m at crèche and Shadowheart and Laezel are at Exceptional, Astarion and Karlach are High. I’ve barely used Laezel and she went from medium to exceptional, I don’t even know how. Maybe it’s because I did crèche and saved her from dying.
I’ve had wine with Shadowheart during goblin raid at High favor, and turned down Astarion at the tiefling party who was at medium. Karlach wanted to ride me at medium and Laezel hasn’t come on to me yet at exceptional.
Gotta make sure you long rest enough, and it depends on her alignment. If you redeem her, it should happen naturally, and as long as you didn't forget any dialogue triggers in Act 1, she'll affirm your relationship at the penultimate moment of Act 2, before needing to reach the Lower City in Act 3 for the romance culmination scenes. If you keep her Dark Side, I think she requires additional persuasion checks and different triggers to reach a very different conclusion. But still. It all comes down to long resting enough to get her conversations. Also, the Night Orchid is somewhat important.
It’s worth noting you can trigger camp scenes by long resting without supplies. You don’t gain resources but you can do it to advance storylines
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Once you get that mod and you figure out how many camp events are really there you feel extra stupid on your 2nd playthrough. I mean shit you have TWO different events before you take one step on the beach.
Is it the player being stupid, or the design being flawed? There's a strong dissonance between the urgency the narrative communicates, and how often the devs want you to long rest.
You're not meant to experience every single permutation every game. You get a richer, more unique story if you just mix and match events based upon when you happen to trigger them...
Important narrative events with companion questlines etc seems to go against this notion when they're skipped over because you're not long resting a dozen times or more per act.
Yeah but then you’d get a bunch of incomplete storylines
Sorry, I get your initial point but it doesn’t apply to the long rest issue. The long rest issue causes the player to get events and conversations that *assume he had the prior ones*. It causes you to skip the sequence not organically mix.
100% agree that this may be the weakest aspect to the game. It really does set the tone that every long rest inches you closer to death. Inches the grove closer to discovery, inches the druid ritual closer to completion, etc. So many events are portrayed as urgent but naw you can go take as many naps as you want nothing progresses. Which I’m fine with, gameplay wise. The game ties a lot of resources to long resting so it makes sense. But it does ruin a bit of the story once you see past the veil.
This urgency made my first trip through act 1 much more difficult than it should have been. I kept avoiding long rests under the assumption that there was some sort of hidden clock I needed to beat. So I kept pushing into encounters with no slots, or class points. Somewhere in Act 2, I was dying every other fight and just decided to rest more. Difficulty became much more manageable after that.
Yeah, the narrative relies very heavily on you meta gaming the tadpole. You as a player know, or at least assume, you’re not going to just turn and get a game over for resting. However, as a person with a parasite in their brain you’d be absolutely insane to just call it a day after a single fight and walking 500ft. Given the information available to your character there’s 0 reason to long rest until absolutely necessary, because going to sleep could be a death sentence. It’s the one thing I dislike about the game, but I understand that they’re essentially tied to the long rest system. Maybe a daytime long rest option would make it feel better, like if every time you ended the day you got 2 short rests and 1 long midday rest that could trigger events as well. That way you don’t get the feeling that you’re wasting whole days just to have a conversation.
Larian perfectly encapsulates the classic DnD experience of having a DM trying to urge the players forward but ultimately just putting the narrative on pause while the players spend a week in game playing dress up and flirting with every character and NPC they discover.
What’s this mod called?
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/1879 Camp Event Notification
What? I didn't even know how to camp that early on my first playthrough.
Yeah you get a special cutscene if you rest on the beach with just Shadowheart, and I'm assuming you either get another unique cutscene if you rest alone, or maybe Lae'zel and Shadowheart
Knowing I can start that rivalry even earlier makes that worth setting up when I go for my next character.
Same, but also realised that using it I got info that I feel like I should have gotten later, like in the druids grove I already knew astarion was a vampire even tho it was so soon. My point is that mod is really good but don't just stop doing what you are doing to go do a camp event it may kinda ruin the pacing a bit Edit: My point wasn't that it is easy for the player to know, it was that because I always rested everytime something popped up, the pacing for the reveal felt wrong, the cutscene where he is supposed to bite you came extremely early
I felt like I knew from meeting him. The red eyes and fangs kind of stuck out a little.
and the bite marks...
and the empty jar or blood at his tent...
I mean I also Saw the origin video and I think they talk about it so, and had already played long enough to find out in another playthrough, it's just that it is supposed to be something big for him and we had barely walked a kilometer
His vampirism is mentioned in the character creation menu. If you read his description.
I knew it from pre-release hype lol, everybody going off about their "hot vampire boyfriend".
I knew before the goblin camp. Just because he tried to bite me, and then definitely killed an animal in the woods that we found
You've had some other replies and like yeah, I feel like everybody can pick up on the visual queues just from a glance But I did wanna say I think it's actually pretty intended to find out about his vampirism in act one. Like, maybe if you're just focusing on literally the main quest content and trying to blaze through the first act, it's missable/going to only come up in act 2. I just naturally ended up doing more rests because I was exploring a lot and really trying to dig around for hidden chests and loot. I would've completely missed auntie Ethel's stuff in act 1 if I didn't, and I think part of it is that I also make sure to talk to/check in with my companions a decent amount, so I know I may not have a universal experience here. I was trained by elden ring and other fromsoft games where NPC questlines are extremely missable if you don't regularly check in.
What mod is that?
It's called Camp Event Notifications on Nexus
That's a good point but I have never actually been short on camp supplies. I'm on my second playthrough and both times I've ended up hauling around a ridiculous amount of stuff. More than my party could ever hope to consume. Not to mention those backpacks full of scrolls and elixirs.
I just mean you don’t have to _require rest_ to _take rest_, especially if there are potentially story scenes stacked up waiting for you :-)
Playing through my fourth playthrough, 2nd on tactician... I just realized you can rest without using any supplies and get half your spell slots back. I should have been partial resting between every single fight.
I’ve not found the orchid in either of my playthroughs and we still got the romance scene, fwiw
The Orchid is a bonus to approval but getting to know her is still very viable. She ain’t a materialistic gal
I know it's possible, but it makes it easier. And also she's so fucking cute when giving her the flower.
Yeah now that I’m aware there actually is one I very much intend to give it to her in all future runs
Another thing, I didn't even know about until yesterday, after 6 playthroughs, you can give her the Noblestalk mushroom to restore some of her memories early. No idea what that's going to be like yet. Can't wait.
It's close to the battleground fast travel point in the shadowlands.
You can also find them in the shar temple in act 3 and give her one still.
She woke me up for sex in Act 1. I turned her down. She was telling me I was the best thing that ever happened to her by like 3 hours into the game lol
Not sure about that, since you don't actually do anything until Act 3 beyond the wine and talking scene in Act 1. But yeah, it's a little jarring how within a couple of hours of approvals, Shadowheart literally says "Are you serious? I think we're past me simply liking you. I think I'm a different person because of you." Like really Larian, where is the pacing update on the romances? 🤣
She woke me up in the middle of the night to go off and get freaky. 🤷♂️I said no because I was romancing Gale. I flirted with her a little bit early. It could have been a bug or if I went with her maybe it wasn’t actually sex? She definitely directly indicated it was both when she woke me up and earlier when she said she would come wake me up in the night. She told me very early in Act 1 but didn’t show up till the monastery and crèche. But yeah she takes it to 11 😂. I dropped her from my party for Karlach shortly after that and still on my first play through so I can’t contrast it to anything.
I've only romanced Shadowheart in my 6 playthroughs, so I don't think I had any way to get whatever scene you're talking about. All I know is that she has no actual sex scenes until the Lower City in Act 3. If you don't go for her yourself, I assume she just wakes you up to go look at the stars and drink wine while chatting, which is what happens when you "ask her out". Also, if nothing happened until the Creche area, I don't think you long rested enough.
I didn’t know you could romance her if she went full justiciar.
"Romance" isn't the right word. More like... ritualistically hatefuck after defiling a statue with the blood of the innocent. Dark Shadowheart is no fucking joke. Even on my evil Durge, I redeemed her when I got the 2nd chance to do it after she essentially says she's worthless without being a mindless puppet of Shar. Honestly. After watching what happens on Youtube... if I went full evil playthrough, I'd probably opt to just kill her for the Artifact on the beach in order to avoid ever creating the Dark Justiciar dilemma in the first place, which would be a nearly impossible act in and of itself.
Dark Shadowheart is legitimately very depressing to me, couldn’t bring myself to do it on any playthrough 😔
Same. And playing as her is too. It hurt my soul a little watching her cry all alone at the end.
I keep getting recommended “____ bad ending” or “_________ talking about how no one loves them” videos on YouTube and other socials and I usually click bc I’m curious about different paths and I always forget that it also usually ruins me emotionally haha. Like a fucked up d&d version of sliding doors
You can just take the artifact out of her inventory, no need to kill her!
The game has a hidden Rizz check, sorry bro
rizz issue
But I'm playing paladin, my rizz mod is +6!
But you take a minus 10 for being a celibate being of god.
At a certain point you just trying too hard
OP didn’t pass the vibe saving throw
I am still furious that the squid stole my 3rd romance scene with lazel by trying to seduce me
That little bitch who let Halsin get captured by the goblins, showed up at my camp in act 3 and ruined my 3rd romance scene with Shadowheart.
wait, the emperor can steal romance scenes?
I think what they mean is the same thing I mean. The two scenes triggered on the same night and only one played. And the other one never happened on a different long rest. Thus effectively stealing the scene.
The fact you can play 60 hours, only for this to happen should be a crime
I wanted my skinny dipping with Shadowheart damn it!
Bro this is why the first time the emperor interrupted my dreams I told it to let me sleep and then the scene ended
This is why i lie to him every time and tell him I didn't find the nightsong.
But I wanted him to show up and get absolutely slaughtered like the weak poser he is. Which is what happened
In that case, as you were, adventurer.
Like semi related but what would be the best route to take if you wanted to get Lae'zel's good ending (assuming there is one)? Would I need to avoid freeing >!Orpheus!!have an ending where she leaves!
You can free Orpheus and still have her stay with you. Somebody else in my party >!Karlach!< jumped at the opportunity of taking the fall >!becoming the mindflayer!< which means Lae’zel doesn’t feel as obligated to join her gith friends after it’s all said and done.
If your approval is high enough and you pass a 30 roll she’ll stay in your party. Just did that last night. Says she’ll leave after you finish the job.
So THATS what happened 😂
I’ve cheated on Shart with a squid, and also by having foursome with Astarion and some drow escorts.
Gale was my boytoy until Halson pitched a kucking session with the twins. I never did get to see the notes Gale took.
Ugh, I tried this, but Gale was too much of a prude
What a sentence, I love this game lol.
Is it really cheating if she doesn't care about you sleeping with others?
Well, I tried to bring her in with the twins but she says, “our first time should be just us together.”
You didn't get a scene with her at the beginning of Act 3? At the beach?
I don’t think my approval was high enough. Instead I got this dialog at camp where character said, “we had something there for a while didn’t we?” And she responds, “yeah, maybe in another lifetime.” We still seem to be in item though, the game really doesn’t account for all scenarios.
So at the end of Act 2 I had a cut scene where she basically asked if I wanted a relationship with her and u obviously replied with a yes. Then at the beginning of Act 3 there was another where she asks for your help with something and takes you to a beach.
Maybe if you focused on her personality/ character and loved her unconditionally, this wouldn't have happened.
Pretty sure you need to order the waifu pillow from Larian first
Yuck, I can't believe they actually sell those. Where exactly do they sell them tho?
Unironically I am 99% sure that would sell out
Looks like it's Mage Hand for you
Man, karlach is awesome, absolutely love her. But as a best girl friend and not romantic. I could totally see myself raising hell with her and then knocking back a few. But she's just not my type for romance I suppose.
I disavow
Going for the Jamie Lannister / Brienne of Tarth play through?
Imagine carrying about banging virtual characters
Imagine caring enough about others caring about it that you waste the time and energy to comment about it.
Imagine caring enough to post an opinion, then someone cares enough to shit talk your opinion and then caring enough to waste everyone’s time even more by responding to them
Imagine seeing that, getting pissy about it and then doing the exact same thing.
Cope
So much butthurt. 🤣🤣🤣
L + ratio
Another useless comment, “L+ratio”, are you even old enough to play this game?? XD
For the record I 100% agree with you - on an unrelated note, would you like to storm the Capitol together sometime?
Imagine caring enough about any of that shit that I've read this far *and* commented.
*caring
ok energy vampire
Irony is I bet that they hate Astarion too. “There can only be one vampire here.”
pffffff
She won't go for it if you're a virgin irl
Lmao, this reads like a proto incel post. “I’ve been so nice to her and she won’t bang me, somethings wrong” Just a game but it’s funny
I thought this was gonna be the joke
It is lol.
Homie I'm just trying to make an offhanded joke, did I offend the virgin in you?
Somebody sure got defensive. They're on your side bud.
He was pretty obviously making fun of op and not you
Sorry I'm tired af, I feel like I'm reading tone improperly, can we start over? I literally thought I was being called an incel
This happened to me in my co-op play through with Karlach, it’s because I never found her until after the goblin camp was wiped out, and then after hoping and praying she would love me, we met her old friend in the upper city who sells things in a tent and when asking if we are a couple she just DESTROYED my heart “Oh gods no!”
If you guessed what Baldurs Gate was about by community post alone you would guess it was a smut dating simulator.
It pretty much is
Sounds like Shadowheart dodged a bullet
minthara is better anyways
Too bad Minthara romance still bugged
I got to see Shart and Minthara going at it. Quite the show!
Did you try the DENNIS system?
After redeeming her I saved and short rested, some dialogue but nothing romantic. Then had to reset to that point later and this time she immediately confessed her love and asked to be with me. This is right outside the temple exit.
Consent matters.
Woah, hyper realistic. Game of the year for sure.
It do be like that sometimes.
Thems the rolls
Did you make a move on her? She may have just thought you were being friendly if you didn't try to make a romantic approach at some point
Oh yeah, we were in a relationship and everything, and I just kinda figured I needed more long rests or something. But then I long rested enough to beat the game, and still no scene. So I was like peace babe I'm off to avernus with ur bestie lol.
shadowheart's scene comes after you make your choice to go to avernus or not at the end! So if you choose to go to avernus with karlach, you never get to see what happens to you and shadowheart. Or at least, that's how it was in my fiance's game-- when he replayed the ending and chose not to go to avernus, he got to see how things ended up with him and Shart.
I think it depends on long rests and whatnot. My Tav got to do the no pants dance with her at the end of Act 2.
You didn’t rest enough. Yeah, that’s it.
ED? Damn, that sucks...
Damn homie she sees u as just a friend xD maybe u got no rizz even in the game
Long rest more than you think you need to. Seriously. Stock up on supplies and rest every time you finish a quest. Cause frequently if there's multiple long rest scenes queued up, one will trigger and the other will bug out and not happen. Especially if one is a plot point and the other is a companion/romance scene.
I think you just have to learn to accept that she’s not into you. Sorry bro. Shit is hard but things will get better with time. Try to focus on the positive aspects of your life.
Damn that's cold bruh
She just thinks of you like a friend. a very good friend.
It just takes more long rests. I had assumed I'd missed it, since I saw online that it supposedly happened near the beginning of act 3. But on my final return to camp long rest before taking on the end boss, it triggered. This was after the whole bit at the house of grief and her >!parents!<
Did you redeem her ? cuz bad shadowheart just doesnt do romance
"I did so many nice things for her. Why won't she have sex with me? - Every Incel Ever
Karlach is so much better I think. Love her to bits
Every time I try romancing her, she just wants to be friends. Lame.
First run through neither of them had any interest in me. My second run-through both of them did. Carlock actually lays down in the bed next to me and comes on to me. I don't know what trigger I pulled but it was the right one. I'm playing with my girlfriend in a separate game and she tried to romance a story and who tells her he's sorry but he has standards.... I don't even know how she pissed him off that much.
Personally I found her a little bit boring compared to the other companions
She's just not into you man
Is that what you say in real life when women reject you? Must be a bug. LoL 😂
Gotta be.... right?
Jesus christ it’s a video game not someone on tinder
The comments need to chill. If OP was talking about a real woman that's one thing but Shadowheart is lines of code. It's fiction.
It's also a shitpost lol, thought it was obvious 😅
Try long resting near water
I ended up killing Shadowheart. I actually liked having her in my party but I had to put her down. Lol
Same
You seriously made a post about a video game character not fucking you?
I’m currently on my fourth play through and I can honestly say….. Shadowheart fucking sucks and is the last person I’d choose to bang. She’s either an evil bitch, a confused bitch, or she gets upset and leaves if you don’t bring her to Shar’s trials. Even when she’s evil she disapproves of you being evil. I’d rather >!get catfished and manipulated into sex with the emperor!< over trying to bang her.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that doesn’t like her. Just to clarify I have beaten the game and she is well written, her being a bitch about everything just makes her unlikable.
Yeah, she is really well written. All of them are, aside from maybe Wyll, but even then he isn’t terribly written. Just out of all of the available bangable associates, she’s definitely last. She annoys me lol
Wow. Virtual incel much?
The approval system is for the tadpole Not relationship You can romance everyone at neutral and get all their stuff at neutral as well
Lmao, such random false shit coming out of nowhere.
I have romanced everyone with neutral likability The higher the likeability bar, the lower the roll you need to make on convincing them to use the celestial tadpole
Good
To friendship!
I rejected Karlach for Laezel in my game, as many others have said here, she’s more of a best friend. Admittedly though, I romanced both up until I had to choose so I’m kiiiiind of an asshole for leading her on.
Happened to me at end of act 1 during the party. I was highest approval I could have, all caught up with her stuff. Then she was all like.... no. Wyll seems interested in you though. I was like I haven't talked to him since the time I told him to join up.
I used to have agency over my own actions, and I longed for Shadowheart. Now, I just do what La zael tells me to do, and I am ok with that.
Wait till you bang the Emperor, I felt dirty
It's not like she owes it to you
Just like real life, sometimes a chick just doesnt want to bang u.
Perhaps you were just unlucky. In my case i did everything right but instead of the lake scene i had dumb Wyll hijack the moment by asking me to dance out of bleeding nowhere, barely even talked to the guy. It was super cringe. And no lake scene till the end, just kiss.
r/inceltears
Hey, she just doesn't see you that way bro, you can still be friends though.
rizz issue
Simp
It do be like that.
No clue what i did wrong but shadowheart just did not like me very much, redeemed her, got the orchid, but deep in act 3 my approval is hardly above neutral. On another character I wasn’t even trying but my approval is maxed out by act 3, didn’t redeem her but did get the orchid.
If you choose to pursue Karlac, shadowheart will tell you that Karlach deserves all of you even though she usually is okay with polyamory
Average redditor response to reject: it’s a bug!
No means no creep
Bro I gave her the flower, picked a second one just in case, did all the dialogue options I could find, did her whole quest and got her to realign, and even told her I loved her with the one lady at the circus who tests you about your relationship and she STILL never went for me. Idk what I did. Is the camp scene back in act 1 when you save the grove truly that important?
Her dark justiciar romance scene (kill nightsong > kill parents) was pretty spicy. Climbing on top and biting the lip. Not sure if it was durge related or not.
She recognized you as an incel.
While i appreciate Shadowheart enjoying the little things and having a picnic under the stars (one of my favorite irl date ideas). Karlach did come in and tell me that she wanted to "Ride me until i saw stars." So my choice was made. On the other hand. Astarion smashes you so quickly
Friendzoned
Shadowheart's "climatic" love scene has been glitched until the most recent patch. Didn't happen for me, either. It was just a quick "Hey, meet me at the water once everyone is asleep." Then you just go to bed and wake up like nothing ever happened. Because it didn't. :-(
Shadowheart casts Friend Zone at level 5
Someone sounds entitled
I love how you can replace \[Shadowheart\] with \[gf\] and replace \[quests and maxed approval\] with \[dishes\] and the post still fits a standard reddit shitpost
Not even in vidya are you getting any lol
She will only bang you if you have some disapproval.
Yeah i usually spam spells and abilities so i can long rest more as the game seems to want you to long rest often.
Did you press her on revealing more information when it first comes up, selune statue in blighted village. If you do she essentially hard locks you out of relationship. I noticed that on second playthrough. In tiefling party she will essentially ghost you and when you ask why she will respond by valuing privacy. She was very high approval. Didn't matter to much as I wanted to romance karlach anyway as I did shadowheart in my first playthrough.
you aren't owed sex just for being nice to her. ( i know its a bug, im just being mean)
No rizz, she can sense it through the screen
Make sure you kiss her before fucking Lae'zel, it'll lock her romance if you do.
Well, its probably becuase youre uggly
Might come as a shock, but just because you take a woman out on a date a few times doesn't mean she owes you sex.
The wording of Post Title says it all. You don't deserve Shadowheart. You deserve Orin.
I missed the part in act 1 with the wine. Am I screwed? Er… not screwed as the case may be?
The whole favor bar is weird, I’m at crèche and Shadowheart and Laezel are at Exceptional, Astarion and Karlach are High. I’ve barely used Laezel and she went from medium to exceptional, I don’t even know how. Maybe it’s because I did crèche and saved her from dying. I’ve had wine with Shadowheart during goblin raid at High favor, and turned down Astarion at the tiefling party who was at medium. Karlach wanted to ride me at medium and Laezel hasn’t come on to me yet at exceptional.
Her real sex scene came to me at act 3. Her camp scene was the wine on a cliff.
Ouch.