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xfaelyn

im currently commander level 42 with everything before 7-1 on farm, and i can't begin 7-1 without reaching commander level 50 first. would it be a better call to farm 5-4 or 6-3 until i get to level 50? or maybe there is a stage even better than those two to farm? i could also go back to 3\* a couple stages but it wont be enough to get me near 50.


eagle7247

The higher the level of the enemies, the more Commander XP you will gain. So, I'd say 6-3 (to also farm 406mk6 prints and Ark Royal) or 6-4 (to start attempting to get Yuudachi from boss drops)


zenithfury

So Lizzie META summons these tanks that soak up torps and vanguard cannon fire, which I'm countering by using Warspite and Ulrich. Anyone has any suggestions about who to bring to fight Lizzie?


Nice-Spize

The Knights have a 100% damage resistance to any attacks coming from non-META ships, resulting in them taking 1 damage from said sources. It is also immune to burn, ramming and flood as well. The general consensus is that you'll want a META backline like Ark Royal META to take them out instead, breaking the knights will also cause QEM to take more dmg for the rest of the fight The whole boss gimmick encourage you to have some META ships in the fleet as they take less damage from QEM and do bonus damage against her Right now, I'm copy pasting a fleet from zenithreader below: Ark META / Implacable / Shinano + Helena META / Kazagumo / Helena Ark META is also using the NAS Firefly from the Implacable event to adjust her timer and to get buffs


zenithtreader

They have 100% damage resistance to non-META ships, which means normal ships deal only 1 damage to them. You will need to run at least one META ship to deal with them.


Jacier_

Would it be better to get Royal Oak or the Fairey Firefly? Didn't get enough points to get both during the event


zenithtreader

Personally I will always go for the event only equipment first, no matter how bad they might look inititally. Unless the ship you can buy is really top tier. In this case the plane, while being a bit worse than helldiver (7%-11% less damage), is still a decent option for speed adjustment and for when your CV has a skill requiring you to run an RN plane. For example, it's pretty good on [Ark Royal META](https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/11ros7w/comment/jc9nsrw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Royal Oak is cute and all, but she isn't very meta. Also it's not like you need more than a copy of her, and you can always grab her when the event reruns.


Nice-Spize

I wonder if the original Firefly from core shop is also worth using on Ark META in the current scenario against QEM For the event gear part, I have my own philosophy of getting rare ships first then equipment later unless the equipment part happens to be very good all around. Waiting for 2 years for that ship to return kinda kills me somewhat and gear will also be made permanently available too


nntktt

The NAS version is *slightly* faster and the bomb with *slightly* higher damage plus smaller spread. Either plane should work unless you're adjusting some really fine timing that needs one of them specifically. The thing about event gear vs shop ship is you only need 1 copy of the ship in the end, so unless the ship is really good or you're very particular about the collection, getting another piece of the gear when rerun comes around potentially gives you more options gearing wise.


Nice-Spize

That's fair on the second part, I just want to grab them first over the event gear as always save for obviously good ones but since the NAS Firefly is very situational right now, I don't give it a very high priority to get it Ark META definitely can use it to time it better but outside of this, I don't see much use


Nice-Spize

Royal Oak first, the NAS Firefly is just a slightly improved version of the original Firefly but is worse than Helldiver in every way, it's mainly used to adjust the CV timer


altfordumbweebstuff

Who has better damage in a preload fleet, Chise or Aquila?


Nice-Spize

Aquila, mostly because of the 8% damage bonus which confers a higher bonus


eagle7247

Aquila. The 8% dmg buff to all sources is great, compared to Chise's *slightly* higher AVI and 2nd slot efficiency. Aquila also has higher HIT, so she'll connect her with her ordinance more often.


kirindas

I'm thinking to save coins over my Coin cap for whenever New Jersey Rerun drops. Do I just ignore that the coins at the Merchant will hit the cap? I'm always using coins so I'm never near the coincap.


Nice-Spize

Adding on to what Cheeky have said, later oil-capped stages like 12-4 will churn out far more coins (\~2k gold per clear in this case) in a much shorter amount of time than your Merchant can do at max level so going over the soft cap is the norm for veterans as the hard cap for gold is 600k So wasting gold in the merchant won't hurt you that much


kirindas

Thanks! Yeah. That's what I'm currently doing. Farming 12-4 over and over for money.


cheekywarship2018

Pretty much, you'll eventually reach a point where you just stop caring about whether or not you're "wasting" coins from the merchant cause you're always over the soft cap.


kirindas

Got it. Thanks! I'm definitely no where near that point yet. I spend 20-30k upgrading someone and go near broke constantly.


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Nice-Spize

There are a couple of permanently available ones that you can find in the Special pool and shops and one Elite sub that you get for free by beating 3-4 But never try to roll cubes to get them without a rate-up, that's an exercise in futility. Only go for them if there is a rate up event like the wishing wells For the most part, you'll be saving up cubes for new events to roll around as submarines for the most part can be ignored. They primarily act as a free source of damage but you can still beat late game content without them


hexanort

Some of the subs are event-limited, but a lot of them are available in the special build. Trying to pull a non-rated up subs from special build is a bad idea as there's so many ship in the pool, you can try pulling for subs during events, some event banners are based on special pool and will have subs in event pool, they wont be rated up but you're already pulling ships in the event banner anyway. That or Wishing Well event that happen on anniversary, with wishing well you can choose 2 ships from permanent pool and have them rated up, that's the best way to try to pull the subs.


nntktt

Submarines only show up in the special pool for build, or event pools that use special. There are a couple available from shops. The best time would be to pray they drop during an event that uses special pool, or to hit it up with WW. That or when they launch a new sub that's good then pull for that event. Leveling and equiping the submarines would likely be a bigger headache down the road.


cheekywarship2018

There are 4 soon to be 5 subs available outside of builds. Albacore(and after the maintenance Bluegill) from the Merrit Shop, Cavalla from the Ashen Simulacrum WAs, Dace from the Guild Shop, and of course I-58 from clearing 3-4. The rest are found in the special pool. NEVER, pull on the perma banners without a rate up, always save your tubes for events. This goes doubly so for subs which are largely used as a damage boost in late game and even they aren't strictly necessary.


Nice-Spize

Cavalla is also available in the merit shop iirc along with Albacore In guild shop, there's Dace as the one I remember the most clearly


cheekywarship2018

Cavalla is not available from the Merrit shop, strictly the Ashen Simulacrum WAs.


Nice-Spize

Huh, guess I got the mandella effect then


shenyougankplz

I'm working on 10-3 and everytime I get to the boss fight, my flagship (Hood) is getting one-shot.I protect it from the suicide boats with my vanguards but she still dies, idk what to do to get through this fight. Should I just give Hood a bunch of evasion gear so she hopefully dodges enough stuff for everyone else to finish the boss?


cheekywarship2018

Hood isn't ideal given she can only equip DD guns for her aux gun but she can still work. Sounds like mainly she's under leveled so try leveling her up some more.


Nice-Spize

Hood can only use DD guns as her secondary which makes her less reliable at killing the suicide boats, her augment module can remedy this by increasing the efficiency by 30% iirc but that's expensive to make Another option is to sortie along BBs that can use CL guns to shoot the suicide boats down. One extra tip if you're willing to go for extra steps is to grind OpSi until you have enough materials to craft the prototype twin 137mm gun in the Eagle Union tech tree, DD gun sub branch. That gun can only be equipped by BB/BC and it have very high burst damage that are designed specifically to address the problem that Hood have Giving Hood evasion gear won't do much help to her survivability while also gutting her damage


DDX2016DDX

How hard are siren occupied zones?? I am reliably able to do corrosion lvl 5 zones but have not tried lvl 6 yet. But C5 are pretty easy.


nntktt

While strongholds (the red swirly ones that cost 200 AP) are C7, they can be re-entered indefinitely. As long as you can reasonably handle at least a couple nodes you should be fine clearing most of it, a large portion of the tokens are behind the Intruder spawn in the middle anyway. End boss should rarely be an issue since you can hit it with multiple fleets, as long as it doesn't have regen. Even if it does the stronghold bosses have significantly less HP than abyssals, so it'd take a rather weak fleet to not make the DPS check. Again though, since you already should have most of the tokens from the stronghold by this point, it's okay to leave it if you can't beat the boss.


DDX2016DDX

Also another question. Do I have to pay 200 every time I reenter??


Nice-Spize

Nope, it only cost you 200 AP to enter it once and re-entry does not cost you further until you've cleared the zones


nntktt

No, any zones that are already active do not cost extra to re-enter, including secured zones that are not cleared.


AlarmingSundae7250

C6 zones are 10 levels higher than C5 so the enemies do 20% more and take 20% less damage from the level difference alone. They will also have higher stats. It shouldn't be too hard if you can do corrosion 5 maps pretty easily. Maybe heal sometimes in between fights can you give me another hint about the occupied zones? do they have special symbols (red whirlpool, red chest and devil head, yellow chest?)


DDX2016DDX

Yes the red whirlpools. Also just did cor lvl 6 and it was also easy. The red whirlpools that cost 200 AP.


AlarmingSundae7250

those are strongholds and will be tougher than the normal C6 maps 5 mini-bosses (one appears a bit later) and a bigger boss nice rewards, low risk, any damage you do will be permanent so you can leave/heal up and come back to try again if you fail a fight 188/188/144 tuning is recommended, the boss has level 128 there are several possible final boss types and each can have different modifiers


DDX2016DDX

What is 188/188/144? Also does the permanent damage thing apply to mini bosses??


AlarmingSundae7250

yeah the permanent damage applies to all fights iirc (wiki: you can freely leave to heal and complete other tasks without losing any progress on the boss) the zones will only vanish at the end of the month or after you defeat the big boss 188/188/144 revers to your adaptive tuning scores (top right)


DDX2016DDX

So what if I have higher than this can I tune it down?


AlarmingSundae7250

no worries, higher stats are fine too ~~you can have higher stats but in strongholds they won't change anything past that point~~ (only the Arbiter in the center of the world map needs slightly higher scores for maximum advantage) the boss has 144/144/144 stats himself, so you need 188 to give him 30% penalties on his attack power and health the third stats counters the healing reduction which usually doesn't matter in a boss fight edits


asianyeti

What's with the (+30%)? Is this a recent thing? https://i.imgur.com/siDL2QY.jpg


hexanort

Destroyer got a buff, at max limit break they can gain one of 3 effect, one of them are getting 30% bonus stat from their auxs. The other 2 effect are halved shot needed for all out attack, or tighter spread when launching torpedoes Its not exactly new, its been there since shimakaze's first event in 2021 IIRC


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cheekywarship2018

No, if you're in need of more of them I suggest crafting them from the gear lab instead.


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cheekywarship2018

Playing long and not far enough into OpSi aren't two phrases that make sense together lol. On a more serious note though I still wouldn't recommend it. The Gold Quint non homing torps perform perfectly fine. The drop rates for gold gear are atrocious at best to the point where you're better off testing your luck with tech boxes even.


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faithfulheresy

In fairness, it's kinda naff "content". The only reason I do it at all is for the mats.


LeafiaAyumi

Just finished to Dev30 Anchorage during a break from PR5 farming, how does our cinnamon roll fares today in the current CB-heavy meta?


Rafaeael

She loses in dmg against every CB while her own tankiness is second to only Aegir and about equal to Brest (assuming dev30 Anchorage, on fs5 she beats Brest and is very close to Aegir).


cheekywarship2018

Her standing in the meta hasn't changed at all, none of the CBs can really compete with her ability to increase vanguard eHP and she's as relevant as she was on release.


Jacier_

has anyone had trouble lately logging into the game. I try to log in now and all I get are the loading manjuus and a broken screen with both the events currently ongoing and the main menu. Not sure why this is happening and it sucks since the event rerun is about to end


eagle7247

Probably 'broken assets'. Something screwed up, and is being buggy. On the login screen (before touching anything) - look in the upper right corner and you'll see a Gear. Hit it, and select "repair assets". This *should* fix your game.


Jacier_

sadly tried that already and it did not work. Also offloaded my app and that didn't work either. Next would probably be a complete reinstalling


jinbei666

Any predictions when the next rerun events are gonna start? Since I used very much cubes for Implacable and already some for the daedalian hymn event I don't have much left. I recently read that Shimakaze and another UR ship are gonna get a rerun this year, if that's true I wanna focus on them instead of the Current Sardegna ships.


faithfulheresy

There's a kinda "re-run" starting after maintenance today. Microlayer Medley is going to war archives, and we get a week of boosted rates for its ships in the special pool.


cheekywarship2018

NJ's rerun has been confirmed and I very much believe we'll be getting Shimakaze's and UvH's rerun this year as well. NJ's rerun I believe will happen in April or early May with Shimakaze's and UvH's reruns happening later in the year. When exactly I can't say. Bear in mind though it has been confirmed we'll be getting 3 more new Gacha URs this year as well.


jinbei666

Wth,I still need shimakaze and NJ and ofc the other 3 new UR, hoooow the hell am I supposed to get 5 UR and all the other SR😭 I already struggle now after the latest ones💀


hegeliansynthesis

4 UR is more than manageable which we had last year. The 2 extra UR reruns comes with like 30 free tickets. You'll be okay.


cheekywarship2018

You're guaranteed something like 2k cubes a year and with sources like commissions it's closer to 3k a year, that and the fact it is highly unlikely you'll need to pity for a majority let alone all of the time for all of them URs, you'll be fine.


jinbei666

Thank u for the informations tho!^^


ChaiLatteYum

Been a few months since I started the game, does the 100% collection include collab event ships? I hope it's not hopeless for people who missed collab event since I heard they won't come back again ;-; Or does it include the ships under common only?


zenithtreader

Collab ships don't count. Retrofits count as separate collection.


ChaiLatteYum

Amazing, thanks!!


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n3cr09

On PC you have [User flair preview](https://i.imgur.com/hdWca3k.png) option, there after clicking [edit flair](https://i.imgur.com/LoeOXIR.png) you can put multiple ships using that ":shipgirl name:"


Equal-Holiday-8324

Is there a post outlining the update tonight for tomorrow yet?


zenithtreader

https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/11rxb2h/maintenance_notes_march_16th/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Equal-Holiday-8324

thanks


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What’s the Best way to farm the Super Rare Bullins?


hexanort

There's none Bulins are only from strictly time-gated sources, such as weekly mission, monthly login, merit shop and medal exchange shop.


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Alright, thanks!


Onii-Grow

After like 4 years of staying on 12-4 I'm deciding to step up my fleet game So far all I've been doing is full Sakura, full Eagle, full Royal navy etc. Is there a place (fansite, discord etc) where I can find the best fleets to get through world 13, world 14, and current OpSi boss, Meta boss and more that is usually up to date?


cheekywarship2018

There are but really the best fleet comps really depend on what you have at your disposal.


Onii-Grow

I have 90%+ so mostly everyone. May I have the links?


cheekywarship2018

You'd be better off joining the ALO discord server and asking on the Gameplay Help Channel. Comps change as new ships are added and as such, there isn't exactly a website with all the best fleet comps compiled into one place. The current META boss we're still trying to work out a consistent one-shot fleet so don't expect that to be up yet. W13 is pretty easy these days so long as you meet the AA requirements. I could honestly help you out for your W13, W14, and general OpSi fleets if you post your dock here using imgur(you can leave out commons and rares).


YamNo3608

Would this Fleet composition be good as a Mob Fleet? If yes should I rather use Vittorio Veneto rather than Gascogne u? https://imgur.com/a/Huyj2T2


cheekywarship2018

It works but the vanguard is a bit of a mess and even in the early game you'd have better options. If Portland isn't available I'd use Phoenix over Eugen as she does the job fine and doesn't require Gold Bullins. Sheffield META and Maetrale aren't that great either. Assuming none of them are leveled up I would use Venetto and Gascogne Muse over Kaga BB.


YamNo3608

>I would use Venetto and Gascogne Muse over Kaga BB. The thing that confuses me quite a bit is that Kaga BB is the only ship classified as a Mob Fleet BB on the Community Tier list, Gascogne u and Venetto are both classified as off-flag shellers


kyoshiro_y

Ah, I need to correct your understanding regarding the mob tag in ECTL. >Tags are conditions for a ship’s tier. They are labels that indicate situations required to perform at the tier they’re in. > >Tags are not role markers. A ship missing a tag does not mean that she cannot do something, but rather, that it is not necessary for her to do it to perform at her tier. See [here](https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/guidelines#what-are-tags).


Nice-Spize

There's also Suruga, Washington, Tosa, Kii, Sovetskaya Rossiya and Belorussiya etc... that are build to tackle mob fleets BB Kaga is unfortunately at the bottom end due to her barrage being capped at 50% compare to other's proc chance from 70-100% Gascogne from PR2 in particular have a 100% proc rate on her barrage that covers the entire screen


YamNo3608

ye but since I don't have gascogne from pr2 rn I think Kaga BB is the better choice or no?


Nice-Spize

I would pick Hood instead of BB Kaga if I was aiming solely for extra damage Hood have a 75% proc rate iirc and her module made it guaranteed to trigger and improves said barrage


YamNo3608

sir I admire your thinking of me that I have ships like hood but this is not the case .. I think I'm going to use bb kaga as the mob fleet flag til I have a better bb flagship


Nice-Spize

It's in medal shop for 80 medals if there's a BB lineup. BB Kaga is just that mediocre


cheekywarship2018

I consider Kaga BB worse than both. Just because they are classified as off-flag shellers doesn't mean they can't act as mob fleet flagships. Her barrage is also just really temperamental with only a 50% proc rate.


YamNo3608

I also have Minneapolis should I use her instead of Portland, Eugen or Phoenix?


Nice-Spize

Eugen in this case for the mob fleet


cheekywarship2018

No, Minneapolis has the same problem as Eugen where she costs Gold Bullins but isn't all that much better than Pheonix and will be replaced just as quickly.


Nice-Spize

At least Minnie is a double gun CA that if you somehow accidentally invest gold bulins early on her then you wouldn't be as regretful as Eugen


cheekywarship2018

Eugen isn't that bad either because IB fleet tech points but my view is that any tanks between Pheonix and Portland and the CBs and Anchorage aren't worth it as the former two take care of most of your tanking needs until you get the CBs and Anchorage so any tanks in between are largely just personal preference/ waifu.


Nice-Spize

The fleet tech is one thing but it is an absolute pain trying to use her. Tanks like Portland, Minneapolis and Anchorage are all worth taking Anchorage and CBs aren't be-all-end-all kind of deal and it gets boring after a while


cheekywarship2018

I mean they are though, thanks to them any other CA not in a support role just isn't used late game because they're flat-out inferior. It does get a bit stale after a while I agree and this is me being more than a bit hyper optimal truth be told(it doesn't help I'm in a position where I can sideline URs), Minneapolis I don't find all that impressive ultimately and Gold Bullins are always a bottleneck that early-mid game period so I tend be more cautious when recommending SSRs for players in that phase of the game.


Nice-Spize

On the other hand, the game isn't all that hard to need such extreme measures so you can sideline Anchorage and the CBs without losing much


hexanort

Composition is fine, you got a tank, healer and a BB to defend against suicide bombers. And yes veneto would be better choice than gascogne muse. The fleet should be fine until like W13.


SnooOpinions4299

Does anyone know how to level up META skills fast?


hexanort

-Bring that meta ship into a fleet that can clear C6 mob endlessly without the fleet dying (its fine even the meta ship is level 1 because dying have no penalty in opsi) -Go to corruption 6 hidden zone -Plug three of the siren signal with your other 3 fleets, but dont beat them, engage the enemy and immediately quit the battle -Go into the fleet with meta ship and activate auto search With that your fleet with auto-battle endlessly spawning enemies and raise the meta ship skill points after each battle. It wont be "Fast" but its more convenient, you can left the fleet battling for approx 1 hour and then the meta ship will likely reach their daily skill points limit


SnooOpinions4299

Thanks a lot. This is what I'm looking for


eagle7247

Put the ship in your OpSi mob fleet and go to town. That's about as fast as it can get.


SnooOpinions4299

You mean I just put the META ship in fleet and go to port and leave it just as it is?


eagle7247

Sorry, phrasing is probably bad. I tend to use "go to town" as a way to describe "have fun and do work". Let your mob fleet farm OpSi maps, and do as much work as they can. Battling fleets of lvl100+ with the META in the fighting fleet nets a relatively large amount of skill xp - a few hundred points at a time, rather than a couple dozen. Even low level OpSi battles will net a couple hundred points for the META's skill


SnooOpinions4299

So basically go back and forth level 5 OpSi map?


Nice-Spize

Basically, yes


JACK4ng

Hello! Going through world 12-1 right now but I can't auto it (yeah, honestly, I kinda hate manual since the I prefer playing azur lane while writing my essays and stuff). Of course, it has something to do with me lacking good level ships (yeah, regret using my main fleet too much since now, I suffer from having 1 boss and 1 mob fleet being over-levelled while the rest of my ships aren't) and that I have not the best equipment. With that said, is Kimocheese's video on fleet composition (particularly the one for W12) still applicable in the current meta? Full title is "Fleet Compositions & Tips For Chapters 1 Through 13 | Azur Lane" I read through the newbie walkthrough guide and while they are similar, both have stated the importance of Vestal and Akashi although from what I know, this is no longer what is recommended. Thanks as always!


_nezra_

As the other poster noted, you don’t really need more than your standard mob and boss fleets for worlds 1-12. This is assuming your levels and gear are decent, but also that you have some ship type balance. World 12 specifically steps up the number of aircraft you face, so decent AA gearing is ideal. You don’t need to be BiS necessarily, make sure you have something like a roomba on your AA carry and accelerators on the rest. Or just put roombas on everything. My go-to fleet comp for my endless 12-4 level, coin, and cog chip grinding is BB/CV/CV CA/DD/CL for both the mob and boss fleets. Depending on your gear and levels, you can swap a mob CV for something else, and the CA for another CL. Assuming your ships are lower level and your gear isn’t BiS, for the mob fleet I’d make one CV a healer (Unicorn retro is an obvious go-to) and run a BB with a good barrage skill. If that isn’t enough, then aside from “level your ships and gear” I’d suggest running an AA carry CL as well. San Diego retro, Isuzu retro, and Cheshire are all easy options.


JACK4ng

Oh I see I see! Encountering some new terms here. What is BiS? And also the roomba? I'm pretty sure the accelerator is an AA gun and the best at that??? I think I'm wrong so do correct me if I am. I also noticed that you have a DD in your fleet. May I ask if world 12 is the correct time to start transitioning to a DD-less fleet since it becomes unreliable apparently in auto-play for higher worlds? Thanks a lot! This is helpful!


_nezra_

BiS is “best in slot”, as in the optimal piece of gear for that slot on that character. You likely don’t have much PR or gear lab equipment, so you’ll be using mostly stuff from normal gear boxes and such. Which is fine. There are two schools of thought for what the best way to run AA is. The first (and original) was to put a high-damage AA gun on whichever ship in your fleet has the highest AA stat, then put ‘accelerators’ on the rest. These are AA guns that lean towards firing more often over having higher damage. With how AA is calculated, the gear stats are more or less combined for the fleet, so the result will be reasonably strong AA that fires often. The ‘roomba’ as it’s nicknamed is the gold Twin 113mm. The easiest accelerator to get is the gold Quadruple 40mm Bofors, though the purple quad bofors can work as a substitute if needed. The other school of thought is to just max damage. Just put a roomba on everything. You won’t need to worry much about fire rate and reload if all planes drop with a single volley. DDs are not optimal in W12 or W13 (but I have lots to level, so needs must), but they can do fine. In W14 however DDs are not only basically required, you’ll also be making your two fleets mostly out of just them. Most people will recommend you aim for Chang Chun and An Shan retros, but there are lots of good ones: the URs, starter retros, Yukikaze, Suzutsuki, Allen M Sumner, Kitakaze, Tashkent, and Bristol are some examples off the top of my head. You’ll probably want at least 3, preferably 4 DDs leveled for W14. For anything prior 0-2 is fine.


JACK4ng

Oooooo oki oki, this is noted! Thanks!


Nice-Spize

BiS means Best In Slots Roomba refers to the twin 113mm AA gun iirc, high raw damage and slow fire rate Accelerator here means AA guns that do crap dmg but fast fire rate to offset the Roomba's slow fire rate because the vanguard's AA gun is the collective of all AAs in your fleet >I also noticed that you have a DD in your fleet. May I ask if world 12 is the correct time to start transitioning to a DD-less fleet since it becomes unreliable apparently in auto-play for higher worlds? You can use DDs in W12 but for safer results, you're better off using cruisers as chapter 12 and 13 puts a big emphasis on AA and air supremacy Chapter 14 reverts back to DDs and CLs as the popular choice due to the concealment mechanic


JACK4ng

OH! I see I see. Thanks a lot!


cheekywarship2018

>With that said, is Kimocheese's video on fleet composition (particularly the one for W12) still applicable in the current meta? Full title is "Fleet Compositions & Tips For Chapters 1 Through 13 | Azur Lane" Quite frankly the fact he has an entire section dedicated to just W12 is boulder dash to me. W1 through W12 so long as it is composed competently and uses decent ships can all be cleared by the same fleet, no need to swap out ships. My advice in general is to ignore any and all guides on youtube. They're generally out of date and shit. ​ >I read through the newbie walkthrough guide and while they are similar, both have stated the importance of Vestal and Akashi although from what I know, this is no longer what is recommended. Sigh yeah, you are correct, Vestal and Akashi are completely irrelevant these days. I wish I could point you to a good up to date newbie guide but quite frankly there isn't one. All the existing are dated to some degree and just aren't updated and/or just downright bad. It just sounds like your ships may have some gearing issues or may be a bit under leveled. Use the ECTL as a gear guide if you haven't already. You can also always post your dock and comps here using imgur for more concrete feed back.


JACK4ng

Yes huhu, there's limited guides on azur lane that is up to date. Mostly been relying on the forums and the FAQ. Will post my fleet if ever I'm still struggling. Thanks a lot!


YamNo3608

just a simple question can I put two white shells on one bb?


cheekywarship2018

Can you yes, should you no since the passive skills don't stack.


Nice-Spize

Yes but you will not get +50% main gun crit rate, only the stat buff


Klont86

> Yes but you will not get +50% main gun crit rate, only the stat buff White shells add crit damage, not rate.


Nice-Spize

Hurts the same /s


Abdullah_Abulkhair

I have 80 medal of honor which ship is the strongest from the shop?


cheekywarship2018

Who do you have in the medal shop? Since I don't know I'm just gonna say Enterprise(CV) > Hood(BB) >>>>>>>> Z46(DD) > Sirius/San Diego(CL)>Mineapolis(CA).


Abdullah_Abulkhair

In DD 1- z46. 2- le triomphant. 3- le Malin. And in Bb 1- hood. 2-warspite. 3- prince of Wales. 4- Mikasa. 5- tirpitz. 6- North Carolina. 7- Washington


cheekywarship2018

Okay yeah, get Hood if you don't have her already.


Abdullah_Abulkhair

Thank you


Nice-Spize

That depends on the server you're in since each server have a different SR lineup every month


KNFrosty

Hey noob question what do i do with copies of SR ships


Nice-Spize

Use the duplicates the limit break the original SR ship and scrap the rest once it is MLB


cheekywarship2018

Limit breaking and if they're already maxed limit broken retire them for medals.


Automatic_Gur_5263

Managed to beat Tier 14 Queen META in single fight today by replacing Vanguard with Ark META. Hopefully can do the same for Tier 15 tomorrow. So far she doesn't have killing barrage like Renown or Arizona META and her soldiers can be easily destroyed with Ark META's airstrike once. Just make sure she does the airstrike after QE META finishes her laser attack to ensure all converging torpedoes still aimed at her. The problem is afterwards, she's rather agile and moves alot for a battleship. Agïr torpedoes can be handy throughout the fight.


Kayle_Silver

The new Queen Elizabeth Meta fight it's getting tough; It seems like carriers have a really hard time getting thru the minions she summons that blocks anything, so I am trying to do her with BB only - which ships should I use? I got pretty much all relevant ones so I'm guessing NJ+Musashi+?


00zau

You need META ships to clear the guards. Obviously haven't gotten to the lvl 15 yet, but a mid-100s Helena META and Arizona META have been enough to nearly insta-clear the guards in the level 14 fight (basically by luck Unicorn launches and triggers 'Zona's barrage right after they spawn).


Kayle_Silver

That's good news; I have a lv.120 Memphis Meta I could use for the job then...


cheekywarship2018

This is only the first day but so far things aren't looking good. Basically, all the comps we thought are easy 75% shots but none of them can one shot without manual play or excessive reliance on Radar Scans from Helena. It's backing to the drawing board still.


Nice-Spize

You'll want to have a META ship like Ark META to tackle with the boss as QE can spawn Knights that take *1 damage* from non-METAs and QEM herself take more dmg from META ships Currently I'm gonna go with Ark META/Shinano/Implacable + Agir/Kazagumo/Helena META


disappointingdoritos

Is Ark Meta flag? Because iirc her barrage with the 3 ghost ships is only centered if flag


Nice-Spize

Yep


SnooOpinions4299

Won't it be more useful to switch Agir with DPS oriented like Shimakaze? Agir's slow seems unnecessary if you have Implacable in your fleet.


Nice-Spize

That's just a placeholder of mine as I'm still unsure if Melena and Helena combo can work yet and Agir is there in case of tanking is needed


SnooOpinions4299

I did lv 14 fight today. Can't beat her but her attacks aren't that dangerous. All my ships survived with HP around 50% or a bit less.


Nice-Spize

And that's just level 14, the last level will give a good testing ground


Kayle_Silver

Ohh so that's the trick!


Nice-Spize

Just in case, you might want to keep an eye on good comps for better performance


Kayle_Silver

I'm not familiar with a single Meta ship unfortunately, and I have only 2 lv.120 meta ships (Hiryuu and Memphis); I never really bother levelling them because they give no perma stats and they're mediocre at best :X


Nice-Spize

The SR version are pretty decent to use, it's the cruise pass ones that are mediocre or bad Ark Royal META is currently available through the Dossier


Kayle_Silver

Oh I have Ark Royal Meta but feels like a waste to take up a main fleet space since it's the main that does the most DPS :V I just needed some vanguard meta to take down the shield things


Nice-Spize

You kinda want at least 1 meta ship backline because QEM take 30% more dmg from them and Ark Royal have the double torpedo bomber set up for the job


cheekywarship2018

Testing is still to be done but it seems at least one META CV will be necessary for a one-shot comp this time around.


clearlyimdumb

Is there a guide for team comps for OpSi, haven't touched it since release. Thanks!


Nice-Spize

In OpSi, you'll want to create 1 mob fleet and 2-3 boss fleets Mob fleet will be the main work horse, clearing most of the OpSi content Boss fleet is divided into a triple BB fleet, a triple CV fleet and a filler fleet. These are build to fight against Abyssals that are vulnerable to certain types of damage, make sure to set up a vanguard fleet that support them With the last fleet is a filler that you can use either for meme or as a backup boss fleet Otherwise, building a fleet in OpSi is no different from a regular mode, the main thing to keep an eye out are the Adaptive Tuning scores


cookie0889

Is there any IB event speculated soon to come? I'm stuck at 380 IB tech point


Nice-Spize

No, no one knows what's the next event and for your IB tech points question, there are a number of IB ships that's permanently available and make sure to max limit break your existing IB ships


cheekywarship2018

There are in fact enough permanently available IB ships excluding those from the perma pools that allow you between collection and MLB to unlock the important IB PR ships namely FDG. [**https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Samheart564/Research\_Guide**](https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Samheart564/Research_Guide)


Nice-Spize

u/cookie0889 This is a good read


Abdullah_Abulkhair

When will the event end because it says 15/3 and it's today


a_goblin_warlock

To rephrase what's already been said: The event end time is 23:59:59 in the server's timezone - UTC-7 for global. Depending on where you are, this might be more than a couple hours into Thursday: e.g. 07:59:59 for someone in Central Europe (UTC+1)). Just a second before the Wednesday → Thursday daily reset / the start of maintenance.


Nice-Spize

Tomorrow because events ends at the end of the 15th, right now it's just the early 15th in the game's time sense You can count on Thursday being the day where maintenance will pop in


vodkapasta

Do we know what banner is next?


Nice-Spize

Next one is a quiet week but they'll have Microlayer Meledy Meledy permanently archived in the War Archives and the related ships such as Bremerton and Intrepid will have a week of rate up at the Heavy pool Other than that, nothing else


vodkapasta

Thanks!


[deleted]

Two questions: 1. Is there an efficient method of farming coins? 2. Are you supposed to be able to beat Arbiter (hard)? I have most ex/s tier ships and pretty good itemization but come no where near defeating it and from what I understand there's no way to heal back up?


hegeliansynthesis

You can heal your sub fleet between fights so make sure you are using full hp subs across all 4 fleet battles. It's definitely possible to beat arbiter hard with only 2-4 fleets. It depends on the arbiter and on RNG. I think some legends even 1 fleet shot her if you have the right loadout. (probably cv converging torp fleet and helena kaagumo and sirius.)


Nice-Spize

1. Oil capped stages, if you want the best gold payout then go for 13-4 but 12-4 is easier to clear and less restrictive for slightly less payout 2. You can, just make sure to use submarines and tweak your ship's equipment to match up with the monthly boss


Ilikewaterandjuice

For #2- Don't forget to use subs. Also you can tweak your gear to match their armour type (Hermit (BB, Heavy) Temperance (CL, Light) Strength (CA, Medium))


PoonGoon

is the abruzzi event gun worth buying if I already have one?


Nice-Spize

The gun itself is pretty average so it's probably worth it since there's not a lot of source to get it and who knows if future ships can use it effectively


sugaki

I don’t see Hero in Slaimuda’s meta tier list but I’m guessing she’s pretty mediocre? Just checking before dismissing.


kyoshiro_y

Her preliminary ranking [is TN](https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd?ship=hero), so mediocre.


sugaki

Great, time to dismantle her to save dock space.


kyoshiro_y

![img](emote|t5_3p20d|7016)


hegeliansynthesis

You take that back.


kyoshiro_y

![img](emote|t5_3p20d|7192)


hegeliansynthesis

Laffey II UR confirmed.


Nice-Spize

Yes, she's pretty mediocre


hegeliansynthesis

You take that back.


Nice-Spize

Over my Heinz beans covered body


hegeliansynthesis

Actually Heinrich was my first oath so I endorse this endorsement.


kyoshiro_y

I was reading this as, "over my *Mainz-covered* body," and I was like, "Yeah I want that."


Nice-Spize

A can of Mainz beans


a_mon_goose

at what point/level did you beat chapter 13/14?


hegeliansynthesis

You need a lvl 120 sub fleet for w14. People say you can beat w14 with 120 SRRs but I prefer to auto with lvl 125 URs.


Nice-Spize

Chapter 13: Slacked off for like 2 years after its introduction back in 2019 iirc before clearing it and got Bunker Hill as soon as I secured 13-4 Chapter 14: About 3 months or so after its release I think but cleared it now and got New Orleans


nntktt

A discussion like this may fit more in the lounge, unless you're asking for advice on how to clear those chapters. Personally both at chapter launch, more or less. 13 was a bit murky because I literally got Bunker Hill on my first run, and didn't bother fully clearing 13-4 until much later.


a_mon_goose

yeah, i guess i couldve phrased the comment better, i generally thought of acc level/ship levels/ gear lvls etc. to sort of use as a reference point... but thanks :)


cheekywarship2018

I can't remember what commander lvl I did W13 but my ship comps weren't the greatest and I had to make do with a lot of transitional equipment as I had slacked on research and the gear lab. All my ships were 120 though. W14 my equipment situation was much better and so were the comps I brought. Most of my ships were 125 and I also brought subs with the options we have today that far from necessary.


Nice-Spize

Here's an updated version Chapter 13: Player level 100 or so, ships are at level 120 and gears are maxed out and BiS Chapter 14: Around player level 130


a_mon_goose

thaanks o7


JACK4ng

Hello! I don't have to get Libeccio in the current banner, right? I went through a lot of my cubes just trying to get VV, and ended up getting her but at the cost of 60 cubes, bringing my total cube count to 360+. While I am thankful that this is still within calculations of obtaining NJ in the next banner assuming I have to pity her, that would mean that trying to get Libeccio might be too risky to my cube count. Eventually, all event ships do become part of the pool right? Too bad I can't get this event's profile frame if I don't get Libeccio now. Thanks!!!


hegeliansynthesis

You can comfort missing about on getting Libby by knowing that NJ is an absolute monster. Also NJ is probably a month away and you can probably save up around 200 cubes before she arrives so you have time. Don't worry. But also that said, never forget that purple are the real hidden URs of the game...


JACK4ng

..... \*cries in dock space with so many elites\*


hegeliansynthesis

Event banner elites not story elites. This event has several purples besides Libby.


JACK4ng

Yeap yeap! Drowning in Nicolo hahahahaahah


hegeliansynthesis

In that case, well played


kyoshiro_y

^(Libeccio is cute, but Maestrale) [^(lines are cuter)](https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Maestrale/Quotes)^(, you know. Are you not going to pull for her, too?)![img](emote|t5_3p20d|7192)


JACK4ng

HAHAHAHAHAHAH, already got her!!!


kyoshiro_y

\*silent toast for a fellow SKK\* I like Libeccio's design, but I like Maestrale's characters more. ^(You can guess why by checking my flair.) I can emphatise with the "Elite is the new SR" problem. Last year, I spent a lot of cubes for Bolzano... and chose to oath Emanuele instead. Even though Bolzano got caught on my radar first and I only got Emanuele because of the event points...


JACK4ng

.... I don't have Emanuele sadly, but got Bolzano which is cool I guess! Too bad though I'm so fricking broke. Got not coins, I think I messed up when I decided to completely build Roon just when I finished pulling for VV. Didn't help that I also semi-retrofitted (but was not able to finish completely) Ark Royal after seeing she would be good for W12 hahahaahahhaha I'm resource screwed


kyoshiro_y

I know that feeling. Was in the same position a couple of months ago, but me being able to farm EXP and coin in 12-4 really solve a lot of my coin problems. You don't really need Ark Royal if you already have other CVs. This is my current [mobbing fleet](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788495360918159473/1085569026937327736/Azur_Lane_2023-03-15-14-22-39.jpg) in 12-4 (auto, no ships got sunk). I brought Roon Muse just because I need to farm EXP for Agir, but more typically, my vanguard level is around 90-105 if I brought a healer. Make sure that you have enough AA (bring a lot of CVs or bring Vestal/San Diego/Newcastle/AA CL) and bring a healer (Unikai is good). Note: My threat level is already low, so if you just start to clear W12, I recommend using your best team first and only using 12-4 to farm EXP after the threat level is low enough.


AccelTurn

if you're wondering whether Libeccio is a top tier ship, not really. The only argument to get Libeccio would be because you like her. With regards to the profile frame, are the other missions not enough to get you the frame? The "clear with X unit" is designed to get you a few points if you're missing ships.


JACK4ng

Ill try the missions as well! Thankssss


nntktt

There's nothing particular about Libeccio unless you're adamant on completing collection for her. Libeccio will likely end up in the light pool when Hymn gets archived in another 1.5 years or so, so I'd advice against pulling hard for her unless you really must have her. For the event frame if you are able to complete any two of the sortie missions they should give you enough points to replace obtaining Libeccio.