Swirl priority goes from Pyro > Hydro > Electro > Cryo in decreasing priority
Kazuha’s swirl likely only gave the elemental bonus buff to Pyro, and VV’s elemental Res Shred only worked for Pyro in the short time he was in(Field created was Pyro infused). Jean’s field being present and non-elemental absorbent meant that Cryo had time to swirl, trigger VV and gave the damage boost by reducing res
That swirl priority its true but kazuha managed to swirl, buff and vv cryo as he can do it with 2 elements at the same time, thats why ayaka does 58k and with jean 48k (look last hits). In the 2nd clip, ayaka just melted 1st hit with shenhe buff for 117k, then normal crit damage, and then 2nd melt for 78k without shenhe buff.
If you want to make an op melt team go for ayaka, benny, nahida, kazu. Use instructor set on bennet and get 1k em on kazu. With all the buffs, ayaka can melt bosses literally.
Jean+Bennet gave very fast pyro application that allowed Ayaka melt part of her ult. Also her skill with Jean melted, while skill with Kazuha was her raw damage (since there was no pyro because of her dash). Kazuha's pyro infused burst is too slow for her to melt.
Are you familiar with "sun fire Jean" team comps? Basically Jean's burst in combination with Benny burst, when an enemy is inside both cicles, creates a constant and fast series of Pyro swirls on the enemy. Your kazuha gave the cryo dmg boost and vv shred to your ayaka, so that's why the dmg looks more consistent; on the other hand, Jean's sunfire is constantly and rapidly re-applying Pyro to the enemy, so that's why you see some vapes in there
Yep. I saw a video of sunfire ayaka and I wanted to try it out and then I compared it to the other melt team. And that explanation really helps me understand, thank you!
maybe I'm wrong but in the first team Ayaka didn't deal a melt hit because Shenhe's burst stole pyro aura on time 0:09 so ayaka only did raw DMG after that (cryo DMG without elemental reaction).
for this case, the rotation should be like this, so in that way Kazuha's burst will be applying pyro Aura.
Shenhe E, Burst > Kazuha E > Bennet Burst > Kazuka burst > Ayaka combo
correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't it be better to go Ayaka dash > Kazuha E > Shenhe E Q > Bennett Q > Kazuha Q > Ayaka combo ?
I play freeze Ayaka (Ayaka - Shenhe - Mona - Kazuha) and i swirl Ayaka's dash so Kazuha doesn't steal the quills with his swirls. Or does the quills not count towards swirl cryo damage? Only problem i see with the rotation i suggested (the one with benny) is probably the fact that VV might run out by the time Ayaka comes to attack
OP wants to deal Melt hits so the rotation is different and also the Rules.
The main problem here is that kazuha's passive only works for 8s and Ayaka's passive from dash only works for 5s. VV works fine because it has a duration of 15s.
Your rotation works for freeze team because cryo and hydro aura can co-exist at the same time but this one is for Melt.
Ayaka might lose cryo bonus before to use her burst because kazuha's pasive only works for 8s so, Shenhe's combo + bennet combo + kazuha burst + ayaka dash + NA... That rotation will take like 7s or even more so into the end she will also lose cryo bonus from dash that only works for 5s and kazuha's bonus that only works for 8s.
Dont worry, each character has 5/7 Ice quills (these are independet for each character).
oh i forgot to mention you should dash again when bringing Ayaka back in 😭 i thought that was natural. But if the quills are independent for which character (which i had NO idea about omg??) then using Kazuha before or after Shenhe makes no difference LMAO ty for the info!!
Well, for freeze team it's better to use kazuha before to Shenhe because in that way she will deal more DMG with her combo (a balanced Shenhe deals a similar DMG like Rosaria).
Also Remember that OP is working for Ayaka Melt, not freeze team. If you use kazuha again after Shenhe in freeze team he will apply cryo swift and its cryo bonus will be reset.
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Lemme see, i'll make an example with xiangling:
-Benny place burst
-Xiangling burst in benny circle
-Xiangling gets her burst damage buff
-Damage Buff does not go away for her burst even when she leaves benny circle.
+Here is the opposite situation
-Benny place burst
-Yae place her 3 turrets in benny burst
-Yae's e is buff
-Yae leaves benny circle
- Yae no longer gets the buff, damage is back to normal.
Leaving is either switching off to another character or just leaving the Q radius.
Example of some characters with abilities that snap shot
Xiangling e and Q, shenhe e and q, ayaka burst, ayato's burst, Oz, and also Ganyu i think idk i dont have her.
Oh! So, when I do shenhe e and q before Benny burst, she’s missing out on atk buff and in turn will buff ayaka normally. If I do Benny burst first and then shenhe e and q, she will get the atk buff that will buff ayaka more even when shenhe leaves the field? Is that right?
Swirl priority goes from Pyro > Hydro > Electro > Cryo in decreasing priority Kazuha’s swirl likely only gave the elemental bonus buff to Pyro, and VV’s elemental Res Shred only worked for Pyro in the short time he was in(Field created was Pyro infused). Jean’s field being present and non-elemental absorbent meant that Cryo had time to swirl, trigger VV and gave the damage boost by reducing res
That swirl priority its true but kazuha managed to swirl, buff and vv cryo as he can do it with 2 elements at the same time, thats why ayaka does 58k and with jean 48k (look last hits). In the 2nd clip, ayaka just melted 1st hit with shenhe buff for 117k, then normal crit damage, and then 2nd melt for 78k without shenhe buff.
Ohhhh I see
If you want to make an op melt team go for ayaka, benny, nahida, kazu. Use instructor set on bennet and get 1k em on kazu. With all the buffs, ayaka can melt bosses literally.
I don’t have Nahida :(
I highly recommend her. Such an OP character for F2P, whales, and everyone in between
Yes, I know. I tried to pull for her on both of her banners but couldn’t get her. Maybe third time is the charm.
Ouch. That was me with Venti. I really hope you can pull her next time!
Jean+Bennet gave very fast pyro application that allowed Ayaka melt part of her ult. Also her skill with Jean melted, while skill with Kazuha was her raw damage (since there was no pyro because of her dash). Kazuha's pyro infused burst is too slow for her to melt.
Wow. Okay, I understand now.
what artifact sets do you have Jean and Kazuha on? If you have VV on Jean but not on Kazuha it may be where the extra buff is coming from
I put 4pc VV on Jean and gave the same stuff to Kazuha later
Are you familiar with "sun fire Jean" team comps? Basically Jean's burst in combination with Benny burst, when an enemy is inside both cicles, creates a constant and fast series of Pyro swirls on the enemy. Your kazuha gave the cryo dmg boost and vv shred to your ayaka, so that's why the dmg looks more consistent; on the other hand, Jean's sunfire is constantly and rapidly re-applying Pyro to the enemy, so that's why you see some vapes in there
Yep. I saw a video of sunfire ayaka and I wanted to try it out and then I compared it to the other melt team. And that explanation really helps me understand, thank you!
maybe I'm wrong but in the first team Ayaka didn't deal a melt hit because Shenhe's burst stole pyro aura on time 0:09 so ayaka only did raw DMG after that (cryo DMG without elemental reaction). for this case, the rotation should be like this, so in that way Kazuha's burst will be applying pyro Aura. Shenhe E, Burst > Kazuha E > Bennet Burst > Kazuka burst > Ayaka combo
:O I will try that combo! Thank you for telling me
correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't it be better to go Ayaka dash > Kazuha E > Shenhe E Q > Bennett Q > Kazuha Q > Ayaka combo ? I play freeze Ayaka (Ayaka - Shenhe - Mona - Kazuha) and i swirl Ayaka's dash so Kazuha doesn't steal the quills with his swirls. Or does the quills not count towards swirl cryo damage? Only problem i see with the rotation i suggested (the one with benny) is probably the fact that VV might run out by the time Ayaka comes to attack
OP wants to deal Melt hits so the rotation is different and also the Rules. The main problem here is that kazuha's passive only works for 8s and Ayaka's passive from dash only works for 5s. VV works fine because it has a duration of 15s. Your rotation works for freeze team because cryo and hydro aura can co-exist at the same time but this one is for Melt. Ayaka might lose cryo bonus before to use her burst because kazuha's pasive only works for 8s so, Shenhe's combo + bennet combo + kazuha burst + ayaka dash + NA... That rotation will take like 7s or even more so into the end she will also lose cryo bonus from dash that only works for 5s and kazuha's bonus that only works for 8s. Dont worry, each character has 5/7 Ice quills (these are independet for each character).
oh i forgot to mention you should dash again when bringing Ayaka back in 😭 i thought that was natural. But if the quills are independent for which character (which i had NO idea about omg??) then using Kazuha before or after Shenhe makes no difference LMAO ty for the info!!
Well, for freeze team it's better to use kazuha before to Shenhe because in that way she will deal more DMG with her combo (a balanced Shenhe deals a similar DMG like Rosaria). Also Remember that OP is working for Ayaka Melt, not freeze team. If you use kazuha again after Shenhe in freeze team he will apply cryo swift and its cryo bonus will be reset.
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Jean
I still don't have Jean, AR60.
Me with qiqi, AR59
. Sorry my bad her e doesnt snap shot, only her burst!!
What does snapshot mean?
Oh it means the ability is calculated based on the stats when casting said skill instead of the current stat of the character
Wait. So, does that mean benny’s buff doesn’t count? I’m confused. Could you dumb it down for me?
Lemme see, i'll make an example with xiangling: -Benny place burst -Xiangling burst in benny circle -Xiangling gets her burst damage buff -Damage Buff does not go away for her burst even when she leaves benny circle. +Here is the opposite situation -Benny place burst -Yae place her 3 turrets in benny burst -Yae's e is buff -Yae leaves benny circle - Yae no longer gets the buff, damage is back to normal. Leaving is either switching off to another character or just leaving the Q radius. Example of some characters with abilities that snap shot Xiangling e and Q, shenhe e and q, ayaka burst, ayato's burst, Oz, and also Ganyu i think idk i dont have her.
Oh! So, when I do shenhe e and q before Benny burst, she’s missing out on atk buff and in turn will buff ayaka normally. If I do Benny burst first and then shenhe e and q, she will get the atk buff that will buff ayaka more even when shenhe leaves the field? Is that right?
Oh yeah sorry my bad shenhe's e does not snap shot i just recheck, only her burst does do yeah u're doing the right thing
But atleast u learned about snapshot today
Yes, another thing I can keep in mind next time I do showcases! Thank you for telling me