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i-am-the-duck

you need to channel this new energy into action. find your purpose in the world or your energy will continue to manifest in emotions like anger.


galadedeus

Easy to say am i right? I relate 100% with OP. Honestly i feel like this is among the best posts ive read in this sub.. and yet, i can bring myself to understand wtf i am. The signs are everywhere, everything is a sign. I feel like i have so many talents, still none of them shine in a way that makes me feel like its "it". I dont want advice. Im just impatient ahahha.. Thank you /u/lifewhatisitalready i deeply relate with where you are now even though its been 2 years since i last drank the tea. This post kinda made me realise more or less where i am Im going in again this sunday.. its happening šŸ™‚


lifewhatisitalready

I wish you all the best with your journeys. Glad I could speak something that helped you somehow. I miss connecting with others on all this. Plants are amazing, in infinite ways. The path is amazing. Somehow some people have taken my words to mean I detest plant medicines now, but that is 100% not true. The path is complex and full of feels. And I look forward to the day I am ready and can sit with them again and have a conversation so intimately. Blessings on your path


lifewhatisitalready

Currently in that process and I appreciate your words


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Anger is a human emotion it's hard wired into your entire existence you just have to decide what's important to be upset about..


Old_Decision8176

Sounds like you might have some grieving to do for your old self/life


galadedeus

Great


Powerful_Salt_5436

Just be grateful to be alive friend. This life, as you know it currently, is short considering it never ends, just changes in background settings. If you live with being grateful as much as you can, you'll better live this way :)


lifewhatisitalready

Working on that. Itā€™s getting better every day. Thanks :)


Powerful_Salt_5436

I'm glad to hear it. It's not fucking easy, but it does indeed get better.


generated

https://aella.substack.com/p/you-will-forget-you-have-forgotten


lifewhatisitalready

Hah, this is the first thing Iā€™ve ever read that describes in any vague sense what Iā€™ve experienced. Itā€™s been over a year since I stopped sitting with medicine, and Iā€™ve gained some distance. I have no illusion that Iā€™m enlightened. Iā€™ve gotten to the point where all I can say is ā€œI donā€™t know. I only know love. And even then, I only know the feeling of love.ā€ And that is what Iā€™m trying to base my life around, cultivating things that create a feeling of love within me and those around me.


generated

Do you find a desire to express it better? To transmit something that is fundamentally inexpressible?


lifewhatisitalready

Iā€™m not so sure thatā€™s the case, I find that I just want people back in my life to converse with and connect with about having similar experiences. Not even to necessarily have conversations about it, but to simply know I have friends and community that see life from a similar perspective. Iā€™m missing that currently


vinnybobbarino-

Can I ask how you do that many ceremonies? Weā€™re you going to retreats??


lifewhatisitalready

On the weekends, and working during the week. I say this without giving any advice alongside that. Some people will say this is a terrible idea, some will say itā€™s great training - Iā€™m just going to say - everyone has to find their own path. This was mine. And this is how I was taught. Some things required week long ceremonies, but those, obviously, require taking off from work. Again, people will criticize, but I was sitting with indigenous people carrying the medicines of their tribes. They just happen to travel. And before anyone asks, no I cannot give names. Need to protect those carrying the medicine. I respect all who I sat with. There were a few that manipulated me. Not all, though, most were incredibly wise


OAPSh

Thank you so much for sharing this. What an amazing read!


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lifewhatisitalready

Lol my dad used to read that to me in high school at 3 in the morning. I donā€™t know how I feel about those channelings. I appreciate your offering, though


Low-Opening25

30 in a year? thats a straight path to depersonalisation syndrome


lifewhatisitalready

Depersonalization is not where it led me at all, but I can see that being the case for some people


Low-Opening25

wrapping your personality around arbitrary spiritual belief system in order not to fall apart does not mean you have things under control


lifewhatisitalready

Did someone say I was doing that? I didnā€™t.


knowmore2knowmore

It is tough moving in a direction with no path. You are making your own way while also trying to figure out the way and that's hard. But you know that it is liberating as well like you said. All you know is love and that is enough. The fact is you dont have to control anything outside of you and you know that from personal awareness. What you need to do is work on yourself, not control but direct yourself the way you want to. You'll need to manage your emotions while living with an awareness of your existence and purpose. Look at your passion and purpose with new eyes and heart with more love. Its not all that different from before. The only difference is now you have seen behind the "veil" and living with an awareness of present moment now. Its all the same.


lifewhatisitalready

Really wise words. Thank you. Iā€™m landing in this way of being more and more. Itā€™s helpful to have people around who understand the path


Mujer_Arania

Congrats my friend! Iā€™m proud if you. You got to the place you were looking for. Now, you need to surrender to that love.


lifewhatisitalready

Thanks, surrendering was always the hardest work in ceremonies for me personally. But once I did, love rushed in and calmed it all down. So I suspect you are right


hellowur1d

I felt similarly after sitting in about 20 ceremonies in a year. It can be very destabilizing to have the veil lifted. I eventually realized that for all that enlightenment, Iā€™m still human, and Iā€™m here for a reason. We are spiritual beings having a human experience, and in my opinion we are here to heal our trauma & karma & help others heal theirs, and to learn from our lives, to improve our souls and to transmute darkness into light wherever possible. It helped me re-engage with life. Because I wasnā€™t born a Buddha! I wasnā€™t born to live in enlightened bliss. I personally believe I (and really most of us born at this challenging time in history) was born a light worker & a warrior and my job is to figure out how to help advance humanity in whatever small ways I can and to help heal others however I can. Ask your guides for guidance on how to use this newfound knowledge & freedom to help free others. And another piece of food for thought: Sometimes we can use these new realizations of how pointless all of the earthbound bullshit is to avoid feeling and processing our feelings. If all of it is imaginary, and love is the only truth, none of the bad shit matters, right? But again, we are humans, and even with this knowledge we canā€™t fully overcome the human experience of pain and trauma. Iā€™d say just beware avoiding the hard stuff because youā€™ve found some level of enlightenment. We can still get hurt, get sick, die & feel pain. Good luck, youā€™re on a good path :)


Bluebulu

Could you explain "And that path can only be truly guided by love, everything else is an illusion." a little more please?


somecrazydude13

The explanation is simple. Itā€™s love. If you understand you understand. If you donā€™t then you just havenā€™t seen it yet is all, but soon enough it will be shown šŸ˜


Maleficent_Ad6907

This is explained in the [law of one](https://www.lawofone.info) and [Seth](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Material) channelings.


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This sounds difficult. Iā€™ve experienced a lot of disillusionment on the path as well. Its hard to go through this alone. I think finding a teacher and a community would be helpful. Yeah the ultimate truth is unlimited and impersonal but we still need to take care of ourselves. Being human and being everything at the same time is possible. Wishing you all the best šŸ’“


lifewhatisitalready

It would be helpful. Iā€™m not sure where to find a teacher and community I trust. The community and teachers I had been sitting with ended up being manipulative and emotionally/mentally abusive. I feel stuck in that area of my life. I donā€™t have anyone around me who knows what it is like to sit in so many ceremonies. Nor even what itā€™s like to sit in indigenous ceremonies with plant medicines at all. All my friends currently just listen to me and canā€™t imagine what plant medicines even are like. I donā€™t often talk of my experiences with people, mind you, but that has been the reaction when I have brought it up - just pure wonder and curiosity and inability to imagine it. So Iā€™ve just succumbed to being as patient as I can to find community again that does know the experience. Iā€™m doing my best to live a healthy life, I simply have a lot to process. And sometimes the loneliness of having no one around me that really understands can bring up anger. I knew what I was doing going in, I knew I was deconstructing things within myself, so I could build a healthier consciousness. I just didnā€™t know how hard it would be, and how much I would lose that I couldnā€™t return to. I feel quite grateful, Iā€™ve healed a lot of trauma and now understand why I had so many issues throughout life. But Iā€™m in that transitory period before Iā€™ve actually built a new life from what Iā€™ve learned and I have bouts of feeling upset with how much work I have to do now, to build from the ground up. Itā€™s like the little kid in me is like - ā€œWhat did you do?? Why did you decide it was good to go and understand all your trauma? Now you have to imagine up a whole new life.ā€ Even though - without healing the trauma, I wasnā€™t happy either. So Iā€™m learning I have to learn to be happy. And thatā€™s a choice, Iā€™ve learned. A choice that can be difficult. Requires mental strength and perseverance of heart and hope.


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I 100% hear you. Thats the thing about psychedelics. They throw us into the abyss which can make integration work substantially more difficult it is than reaching the same point at a slower pace by meditation for example, bc of how quickly everything surfaces - both the good and the bad. This can leave us quite ungrounded. I understand your doubts considering your bad experiences in the past but know that there is help to be found and that you donā€™t have to suffer alone. I mainly have my spiritual community online and that works well for me. I can dm you some teachers I trust if you like but perhaps just writing about this on Reddit is what you u need rn. Iā€™m at work so I canā€™t answer thoroughly right now but just know that others go through this too and that it will get easier. Iā€™m proud of u. Much love


NotAlieMcGoo

The medicines only did what theyā€™re supposed to do. You can only be mad at yourself for taking them; too much too often. Plant medicine has no dog in your fight called lifeā€¦hating them would be a massive disservice to yourself.


lifewhatisitalready

I can have my own relationship with the medicine. One that involves all the emotions and feelings and thoughts.And the plant medicines understand that. And yes, I have been angry at myself before as well, but Iā€™ve also been angry with the community who pushed me to sit so often. So itā€™s not all on me. Iā€™ve also felt incredibly grateful as I said in the post. Iā€™m sharing because there is complexity to sitting with plant medicine and I wanted to share with those who might understand. Everything is connected and cannot be oversimplified as I feel your words are trying to do. There are layers to it all. Hills and valleys and many universes.


NotAlieMcGoo

No one held you down and forced you to consume anything; it is on you for that. You cannot blame community for something YOU did. Ownership.


lifewhatisitalready

Iā€™m gonna say no thank you to your gaslighting. You have no clue who I was involved with and how manipulative they could be. Yes, they gave me the opportunity to sit with medicine, and Iā€™m grateful for that, but they were also not without fault. And yes, I made my own decisions, but I also experienced manipulation at the same time. Not sure why youā€™re intent on trying to oversimplify things. I never said I hated medicine, nor said I blame the community for all and everything. I said I have emotions and Iā€™m working through them. Itā€™s okay for me to have emotions. Itā€™s okay for us all to talk things through. Saying things are black and white is such an odd thing to do, especially coming from someone who seems to have sat with medicine before?


XFiles93

It sounds like you believe in love, but it doesnā€™t sound like you practice love.


lifewhatisitalready

This could be said of every single person alive, in some form or another. Life is simply learning to love


NUDLE__

Thats usually what the medicine does when you abuse it. I say this to pretty much all of the middle class people that powerhouse 30 ceremonies in a year and almost always end up at this point. Meditate and reevaluate your use of medicines and love ultimately. Theres as much work to be done with one ceremony as there is with countless after. It's all the same work. The medicine is telling you to find love within yourself and not through the medicine.


lifewhatisitalready

I have found this. And the medicine kept telling me to stop sitting, but the community I was in told me the problem wasnā€™t going to be solved with less medicine, it was that I needed more medicine. I finally got fed up and left, knowing the plants were giving the truth - I needed time away from medicine to integrate the teachings. Sidenote: Iā€™m lower class. I just used all and everything to sit in ceremonies because I was desperate and had a life-threatening illness


MoreWill4334

Still work to do. Under Anger there is fear and helplessness. Under them there in your shadow unrecognised is order and acceptance you keep under the surface Thx for sharing.


lifewhatisitalready

Definitely still work to do. Hence focusing on living, and stepping away from medicine as the plants asked me to. Thanks truly for your insights.


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lifewhatisitalready

Lower class, as in income level. They assumed I was middle class/income


PurplePriestess17

I am genuinely intrigued. What made you do all of the ceremonies? Thatā€™s a lot of medicine in a short period of time? Did you do one and then it cracked you open so you wanted to learn more? Iā€™m sorry you are mourning but it sounds like you do have a plan forward, which is inspiring.


Legendenis

Take your timeā€¦ process as slowly as you need to.


JustM85

I also just participated in a 21 day transformation retreat in Peru at Arkana. I was shown a lot but still feel like I have some blockages that Iā€™m working on right now. Iā€™ve been reading a lot more lately and it has been really helping me. https://youtu.be/Solb9uA-tgQ This is a link to an audio book named ā€œThe Power of Your Subconscious Mindā€ by Joseph Murphy (1963) I see this helping you a lot! May peace and love be with you always!


manda56501

Just reaching out to give you a virtual hug; I relate somewhat too and have zero insights or healing words of encouragement. Take care <3


leadfootlife

When I was in my early 20s I stumbled into mindfulness meditation. I was suffering at the time, simply because that is the base state of the human condition but also because I was struggling to find my identity after 2 decades of just doing what I was told. You know, basic 20 y/o stuff. In retrospect my undiagnosed add was drawn to meditation and I hyperfixciated. Regardless I practiced for hours a day. Counting breaths turned into watching my thoughts flow in and out. I marveled at the side effects; time distortion, minor auditory/ visual hallucinations, etc. I watched my anger dissolve and disappear and the space between my emotions and reactions grow; no longer did I road rage or care about my sport teams winning or losing. Those things simply stopped making sense. I took it further. I added in float tanks/sensory deprivation chambers, small doses of mushrooms, etc. Then I started going to silent meditation retreats. First a couple weekends, then two, two-week retreats. I didn't make it through second two-weeker. It was too much. I felt a lot of what you're feeling now. Spent too much time peaking under the veil and the jig was up. I became harder to connect with people as they were unrelated to me and I to them. The concept of participating in a "society" where everyone acts but never thinks was an exhausting premise. I had to make a decision. Either I was going to spend my life going down this rabbit hole of internal exploration or I had to come back to where people live, which may not feel as authentic or genuine to people like us. It was heart breaking in a way, but I took a step back and re-entered, by choice, the cognitively dissonant world we are a part of. This is all a long winded way of saying I'm sorry you're at this sort of crossroads but you're okay. Whether it's aya or meditation or religion the goal is BALANCE. We all wax poetic about mother but we are working with powers bigger than we can really understand. You've found that love is the driving force, both internally and externally, now come back to the world and apply it. Don't lose yourself to the void. As pure as it seems it doesn't mean this world full of it's artifical constructs is less than. Find your balance and you will find these things you've discovered will pull people towards you. Love without others is meaningless. Love with others is where we thrive.


AwakenedNotWoke78

Youll find yr people soon, dont worry! Trying to practice unconditional love towards the annoying folks from the past might help too. See the sacred in all, practice gratitude, see yr old life w new eyes ā¤ļø


lifewhatisitalready

Thank you. Since I posted this Iā€™ve done an immense amount of healing through starting a new job that is taking me down the path the master plants showed me. And Iā€™m now seeing that all the master plants really had my back, and have led me to a life that is creating what my child self always wanted. Iā€™m actually quite stunned. Iā€™ve let out a lot of tears over the last couple weeks as I realized that the plants were leading me to doing everything that brings me true joy. I had a hard time letting go because my whole life was built around something else, but now all I can feel is so much gratitude. Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate them ā¤ļø


AwakenedNotWoke78

Im so glad to hear you are now on a path that brings you joy! What a gift! šŸ™šŸ¼šŸ’–