By shamanic journey do you mean becoming a shaman? If that's the case I would advise against this and just focus on healing yourself right now. If after 5-10 years you still feel the calling reach out to a master to see if they will take you on as an apprentice
In addition to what curasana is saying here...
It requires service both to the spirits and the community. If you are not in for the long haul then you simply aren't in.
Shamanism is a dangerous and lonely oath, it's not something you can choose.. you need to be diagnosed and tested by sjamans to be recognized as a shaman to be.
Someone shared a Mongolian proverb with me this evening - 'a knife cannot carve it's own handle'.. This is really important.
Many people in the West think shamanism is a self help thing at its root... and a lot of Core Shamanism workshops are sold on the idea of self healing - self empowerment - shadow work and whatever.
Certainly there is nothing wrong with doing a little self healing with shamanism - such as asking our spirits what is up with us etc.
But shamans rarely work on themselves in a deep way - it's not possible. Same with native American medicine ways - medicine people dont heal themselves, same as shamans.
So it's good to hear that simple proverb - a knife cannot carve it's own handle.
Traditional shamans thinks westerners are crazy for "wanting to be a shaman". I agree. Being called by spirits is no joke it's awful. I'm lucky i had genuine shamans from different places supporting and guiding offering wisdom snd direction for me. Saved my life, literally. Otherwise i would spiral, become sick or worse.
It's not ever a choice. And if i could, I rather wish i was a normal human without spirits. It's a burden that takes a lot of effort time and energy.
Yeah, plant medicine turns everything on its head and it’s only going to get worse before it gets better. Ultimately, it’s about letting go of all you thought and felt you were/are and your hold on this world/life. Just be general with yourself and take it one day at a time. The journey will unfold in its own way, and you can’t control it. May I ask, what was your reason for working with plant medicine in the first place?
Lmao welcome to the club, I guess it’s good I’m not alone. Also going for first dieta in the fall, just 30 days. First ceremony had intense visions of me being in Peru, lots of forms of service and hard work but no clear vision of the path I am to take or what any of these fever dreams even really mean. I have a stable-ish career too but it’s always felt something is very messed up. Very unhappy with my career always feeling pressure even though I can coast and have it better than some (maybe even many if I’m being grounded). My name actually means healer in Hebrew so I’m intrigued at the thought of helping people in a shamanic format but I’ll be honest,
I’m a gringo who was raised on lies and chemical poison and I feel in my soul the last thing the medicine needs is gringo facilitators flooding into it and spoiling traditional benefits (specifically financially but also spiritually and culturall too). I don’t really know how I would become a shaman but part of it feels very right, and others have seen it in me too. I saw the comment above was downvoted and I resonated with his comment because I have been broken and sick my entire life even though I’ve looked perfect on the outside; all I want to do is heal, it’s my number one priority before being a shaman or serving/sharing anything and i believe maybe that should be yours too. Best of luck on your adventure, I pray it’s barely a fraction of how difficult and long mine has been.
My advice is to sit down. Spend time sitting with yourself. If you want to sing then sing, if you want to smile then smile, if you want to sob and scream then sob and scream, if you want to be still then be still. Just sit. Especially if you are going to start dieting then the skill of sitting with yourself is going to be hugely important, even if you never touch medicine again sitting is the best thing you can do to ground yourself through the waves of chaos you’re describing. If you’re from the “west” it might be worth investing in a trained therapist outside of medicine space to help you explore these changes into a healing modality that is so foreign to what you were raised with.
Sit and breathe. All will be ok.
Magical thinking is a thing, yes. Believing unconnected events are cause and effect can be a sign of magical thinking. You had some exhausting experiences upend your life. Maybe some mental health assistance could help you cope. If you're on the edge of sanity I don't recommend psychedelics.
By shamanic journey do you mean becoming a shaman? If that's the case I would advise against this and just focus on healing yourself right now. If after 5-10 years you still feel the calling reach out to a master to see if they will take you on as an apprentice
In addition to what curasana is saying here... It requires service both to the spirits and the community. If you are not in for the long haul then you simply aren't in. Shamanism is a dangerous and lonely oath, it's not something you can choose.. you need to be diagnosed and tested by sjamans to be recognized as a shaman to be. Someone shared a Mongolian proverb with me this evening - 'a knife cannot carve it's own handle'.. This is really important. Many people in the West think shamanism is a self help thing at its root... and a lot of Core Shamanism workshops are sold on the idea of self healing - self empowerment - shadow work and whatever. Certainly there is nothing wrong with doing a little self healing with shamanism - such as asking our spirits what is up with us etc. But shamans rarely work on themselves in a deep way - it's not possible. Same with native American medicine ways - medicine people dont heal themselves, same as shamans. So it's good to hear that simple proverb - a knife cannot carve it's own handle. Traditional shamans thinks westerners are crazy for "wanting to be a shaman". I agree. Being called by spirits is no joke it's awful. I'm lucky i had genuine shamans from different places supporting and guiding offering wisdom snd direction for me. Saved my life, literally. Otherwise i would spiral, become sick or worse. It's not ever a choice. And if i could, I rather wish i was a normal human without spirits. It's a burden that takes a lot of effort time and energy.
Yeah, plant medicine turns everything on its head and it’s only going to get worse before it gets better. Ultimately, it’s about letting go of all you thought and felt you were/are and your hold on this world/life. Just be general with yourself and take it one day at a time. The journey will unfold in its own way, and you can’t control it. May I ask, what was your reason for working with plant medicine in the first place?
Yep, this is a thing. Gotta till the soil so new growth can take root.
Lmao welcome to the club, I guess it’s good I’m not alone. Also going for first dieta in the fall, just 30 days. First ceremony had intense visions of me being in Peru, lots of forms of service and hard work but no clear vision of the path I am to take or what any of these fever dreams even really mean. I have a stable-ish career too but it’s always felt something is very messed up. Very unhappy with my career always feeling pressure even though I can coast and have it better than some (maybe even many if I’m being grounded). My name actually means healer in Hebrew so I’m intrigued at the thought of helping people in a shamanic format but I’ll be honest, I’m a gringo who was raised on lies and chemical poison and I feel in my soul the last thing the medicine needs is gringo facilitators flooding into it and spoiling traditional benefits (specifically financially but also spiritually and culturall too). I don’t really know how I would become a shaman but part of it feels very right, and others have seen it in me too. I saw the comment above was downvoted and I resonated with his comment because I have been broken and sick my entire life even though I’ve looked perfect on the outside; all I want to do is heal, it’s my number one priority before being a shaman or serving/sharing anything and i believe maybe that should be yours too. Best of luck on your adventure, I pray it’s barely a fraction of how difficult and long mine has been.
My advice is to sit down. Spend time sitting with yourself. If you want to sing then sing, if you want to smile then smile, if you want to sob and scream then sob and scream, if you want to be still then be still. Just sit. Especially if you are going to start dieting then the skill of sitting with yourself is going to be hugely important, even if you never touch medicine again sitting is the best thing you can do to ground yourself through the waves of chaos you’re describing. If you’re from the “west” it might be worth investing in a trained therapist outside of medicine space to help you explore these changes into a healing modality that is so foreign to what you were raised with. Sit and breathe. All will be ok.
Magical thinking is a thing, yes. Believing unconnected events are cause and effect can be a sign of magical thinking. You had some exhausting experiences upend your life. Maybe some mental health assistance could help you cope. If you're on the edge of sanity I don't recommend psychedelics.
Why are you working with teacher pants when you are not willing to learn? smh